Senate Recommends NASA Budget Boost

[safan80]

it's about time they get more money.
http://www.dailytech.com/Senate+Recommends+NASA+Budget+Boost/article7867.htm

Could financial things finally turn around for NASA?

Time to publish something that highlights a possible turn in the right direction for current NASA budget woes!

As already mentioned in a number of published International Space Updates, a lot of NASA issues can fairly be related to budget cuts and financial problems inside the U.S. space agency. However, a new the U.S. Senate plans to offer $17.45 billion to NASA next year -- which is $150 million more than what the White House anticipated.

The U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) will receive $4.2 billion, which is almost $400 million more than the White House's request.

NASA has been plagued with budget cuts and lack of outside funding, forcing the U.S. space program to reconsider future space flight plans. Currently, NASA's manned missions are properly funded, but original White House budget cuts hurt global space exploration efforts -- and appeared to dishearten space enthusiasts.

Along with budget cuts and numerous delays stemming from budget cuts, think tanks and research organizations were forced to close. For example, NASA announced it would likely have to shut down the Institute for Advanced Concepts (NIAC), a research think tank known for creating several obscure space technologies.

NASA also drastically scaled back its lunar robotic program, only to get at least $50 million added to the NASA Lunar Robotics and Precursor program.

[xlink]

if it was under my power, i'd just close down NASA for a year.

diver the funds to my PC account. Could probably set the Wprime WR with 128core opteron system...

[StyM]

search for autobots now begins... hehehe..

[[XC] Teroedni]

Its about time Nasa get some more money:up:

I want to be able to travel space before i die:p:

[nn_step]

What they are going to hunt for Osama in space now?

[Jimmer411]

Whoopty dooo :/ NASA is like the bastard child of the USA

[Brother Esau]

Great more tax payers money dellegated to all the right places. I'm sure the Homeless and starving will be thrilled!

Unbelievable we cant even take care of what is going on down on Planet Earth and they are probing space! For what another planet to exploit and destroy?

[PrometheusCon]

looks like more spending on 10,000$ toilets and 5,000$ "space wrenches"

[Major_A]

I watched a program the other night on NOVA about the moon. From my understanding we are on the verge of trying to colonize the moon. We would be doing this to bring back a certain type of Helium for nuclear power. Currently we can only get this Helium from discarded nuclear warheads. I does seem like a giant waste of money, considering we need to be trying to figure out how to tap the Earth's core to create geothermal power. Unfortunately there are only three agencies flying into outer space, NASA, RKA, and the ESA. Soon China and Japan will likely get into the act. Space exploration is vital to the survival of mankind, too bad like most expensive things the US has to foot the bill.

[ether.real]

Great more tax payers money dellegated to all the right places. I'm sure the Homeless and starving will be thrilled!

Unbelievable we cant even take care of what is going on down on Planet Earth and they are probing space! For what another planet to exploit and destroy?

Do you not realize that many of the great technological advances of the last 50 years is linked in one way or another to NASA?

[deathman20]

Im glad they upped the spending. What they need is to spend less on some other "projects" they are doing. What they need to do is do more research "aka more money of course" and spend it on advancing there ways to further reduce costs of space flight with there next shuttle revision. That way they can travel up more often for fraction of the costs.

[NapalmV5]

Do you not realize that many of the great technological advances of the last 50 years is linked in one way or another to NASA?

yeh brother Esau.. thanx to NASA we got tempurpedic/memory mattresses, who cares about the hungry children and the homeless? :)

[ether.real]

Yay, instead lets give $100 to every homeless person. Lets see how well that goes.

[Major_A]

yeh brother Esau.. thanx to NASA we got tempurpedic/memory mattresses, who cares about the hungry children and the homeless? :)
In America? As far as I'm concerned the rest of the world can fend for themselves. I'm tired of pumping countless amounts of money into Africa. Or when some nation has a natural disaster who do they call? The only two nations I can think of off the top of my head that helped us with Katrina were the UK (money) and Mexico (troops). The rest of the world sent a message loud and clear, we need you but don't count on us. It's time America starts looking out for itself, we don't have the budget to help every nation on this Earth (thanks to the administration I helped get into office). Feel free to correct me but we dish out a lot more money than any other nation. I suspect we do half of this to improve our international image. The other half is for our own gains, to set up business, etc...

[NapalmV5]

In America? As far as I'm concerned the rest of the world can fend for themselves. I'm tired of pumping countless amounts of money into Africa. Or when some nation has a natural disaster who do they call? The only two nations I can think of off the top of my head that helped us with Katrina were the UK (money) and Mexico (troops). The rest of the world sent a message loud and clear, we need you but don't count on us. It's time America starts looking out for itself, we don't have the budget to help every nation on this Earth (thanks to the administration I helped get into office). Feel free to correct me but we dish out a lot more money than any other nation. I suspect we do half of this to improve our international image. The other half is for our own gains, to set up business, etc...

i meant america.. unfortunately there are hungry children

as far as what $ NASA spent/is spending thats peanuts vs other gov programs/facilities/top secret/black projects/classified/u name it

[Major_A]

i meant america.. unfortunately there are hungry children
I couldn't agree more. We need to help our fellow citizens first then spend elsewhere if there is any left. When I was going to the Univeristy of Houston just walking to the Business School I'd pass up countless vagrants. Many of them seemed to have mental health issues. For the safety of myself and other students they need to take these people off the streets and get them some help.

[nn_step]

yeh brother Esau.. thanx to NASA we got tempurpedic/memory mattresses, who cares about the hungry children and the homeless? :)

umm actually NASA jump started IC development, for which you can thank the PC you are using now

[Brother Esau]

Personally I remember the world when we used a pad and pen and it was a better place without computers!

[Revv23]

Personally I remember the world when we used a pad and pen and it was a better place without computers!

pass the doobie!

[ether.real]

Personally I remember the world when we used a pad and pen and it was a better place without computers!

So then.....what are you doing here?

[Brother Esau]

So then.....what are you doing here?

Don't get me wrong I really enjoy computers and the technology intrests me as a engineer but I still think the world was a better place before they took over every facet of our lives, but then again you are probably too young to remeber these kinds of things!:clap:

Now when I first used a computer 29 years ago it was nothing like it is today but then again you are probably too young to remeber that as well!

[ether.real]

Dont be so sure. I didnt have a PC until college.

[Speederlander]

Personally I remember the world when we used a pad and pen and it was a better place without computers!

Says the guy with this in his sig:
EVGA 680i SLI ~ A1 (P28)
Core 2 Duo E6420
CoolIT ~ Eliminator ~ Core# 0=20c Core# 1=15c
2gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer ~ (PC2 8500)
ATI XT1950 XTX @ 695/1098
Auzentech XPlosion (Much better Audio clarity over Creative XFI!!!)
Areca 1231 ML {Intel IOP 341} ~ 6 ~ 250gb Hitachi Sata II Raid 6 ~2~WD 74gb Raptors ~ Raid 0 ~
Intel Pro 100/1000 PT Server NIC ~ PCI-e
Plextor 750A
Plextor 230A
PC-Power & Cooling 750w

:shrug:

[Brother Esau]

I never said I was playing with a full deck .....Now did I????

But if you want a Honest Explanation.. I will tell you the truth I am a recovered Addict of 9 years and this is my addiction replacement!

[freeloader]

Give me the pen and pad anyday. Computers have invaded too much of our everyday living. We rely on them too much.

[Trunks]

What they are going to hunt for Osama in space now?

They dont need to hunt osama in space, all they need to hunt is there government :p:

[deathman20]

If there was no computers I wouldn't have a job, and we wouldn't be dicussing this right now. Sure its become main stream into our lives but so has many other things like cars, houses, cooking in house, indoor plumbing, phones, etc.

I'm almost 25, and I've used a PC since I was 2 home built btw, not by me of course. It was great I tell you hence why im well here.

Boost that budget, they've been cutting it so much in the past years its not funny. I mean its for a better future why its being done, going to other planets and colonizing it, surely it will take hundreds of years but in time it will happen.

[Major_A]

They have 5 billion years before our sun burns out so they better get started.

[cky2k6]

more like 1 billion before earth becomes uninhabitable, but still, not much of a pressing deadline lol... our government is most likely never going to wisely spend our money, so i say better to spend it on advancing our knowledge of space rather than creating super weapons...

[Scimitar]

They have 5 billion years before our sun burns out so they better get started.

Like that even matters. We will eracidate humanity by destroying this planet from pollution or wars long before we have to worry about this. Like in the next 100 years. If the human race is to survive, we need to expand out and away from here to have a chance. Right now NASA is the primary focus for human beings to this end. (with contributions from ESA and other countries)

We need to think about the big picture. What is more important?

1. Create another social program where lazy people who like feeding off of the government get a free handout. Add money to the welfare program to help "Cure World Hunger and Disease"? ROFL It will do nothing. Wake up people.

2. Foster cutting edge research to help solve the major problems of long distance space travel. This includes operating a space station, and colonizing the Moon and Mars.

Should human beings ever be more than "Apes who can build stuff" confined to a small planet in a single star system, we will need to invest more in the kinds of things NASA is doing now.

[[XC] gomeler]

Holy cow you guys are so shortsighted. Perhaps we should have stopped research in the atomic sciences as well? Should we have stopped researching jet engines? How about all those plastics and fibers that people love to use? There are so many inventions that are spinoffs from the space program, without it our world would be a very different place. If anything :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: and moan about the Iraq Conflict which easily consumes 10 times the resources of the NASA budget. Velco and mattresses aren't the only spinoffs from NASA nubs.

And scimitar hit the nail on the head in regards to survival ;) Gotta spread those eggs out so they don't smash each other which we like to do often.

[NoX]

more like 1 billion before earth becomes uninhabitable, but still, not much of a pressing deadline lol... our government is most likely never going to wisely spend our money, so i say better to spend it on advancing our knowledge of space rather than creating super weapons...

Considering that in less than 300 yrs since the beginning of the industrial revolution, we have already managed to screw up the planet’s ecological system badly and maybe irreparably, what makes you believe that the Earth or the conditions to live on it will last for about 999,999,799 more yrs?

[Brother Esau]

They have 5 billion years before our sun burns out so they better get started.


Thats wishfull thinking considering that we will probably destroy it in the next 10 years!

[ether.real]

Like that even matters. We will eracidate humanity by destroying this planet from pollution or wars long before we have to worry about this. Like in the next 100 years. If the human race is to survive, we need to expand out and away from here to have a chance. Right now NASA is the primary focus for human beings to this end. (with contributions from ESA and other countries)

We need to think about the big picture. What is more important?

1. Create another social program where lazy people who like feeding off of the government get a free handout. Add money to the welfare program to help "Cure World Hunger and Disease"? ROFL It will do nothing. Wake up people.

2. Foster cutting edge research to help solve the major problems of long distance space travel. This includes operating a space station, and colonizing the Moon and Mars.

Should human beings ever be more than "Apes who can build stuff" confined to a small planet in a single star system, we will need to invest more in the kinds of things NASA is doing now.


What many dont realize is that option #2 does more for social issues than #1 ever will. Trickle down benefits the poor. Just look at how many poor people have cell phones.

[Major_A]

They have 5 billion years before our sun burns out so they better get started.

Man sarcasm is hard to convey in written words.

[Repoman]

gomeler;2286883']Holy cow you guys are so shortsighted. Perhaps we should have stopped research in the atomic sciences as well? Should we have stopped researching jet engines? How about all those plastics and fibers that people love to use? There are so many inventions that are spinoffs from the space program, without it our world would be a very different place. If anything :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: and moan about the Iraq Conflict which easily consumes 10 times the resources of the NASA budget. Velco and mattresses aren't the only spinoffs from NASA nubs.

And scimitar hit the nail on the head in regards to survival ;) Gotta spread those eggs out so they don't smash each other which we like to do often.

Agreed

Money put towards the advancement of overall human knowledge is money well spent. I can't believe anyone could see this as a bad thing :confused:

[Speederlander]

Thats wishfull thinking considering that we will probably destroy it in the next 10 years!

And yet you don't want to fund the science that may save us? Feed the poor now so they can all die in 10 years (per your prediction)? Come on.

[Revv23]

like i say in many threads. I would rather keep my tax dollars.

though I suppose since there is nothing i can do about it, it would be nice if we would put some of that money towards jumpstarting mars's atmoshphere. Perhaps complete that huge ship idea they came up with in the 70's... the one that takes small nuclear blasts to get into space...unfortunatly it was scrapped when we agree not to detonate nukes anymore... but seeing as this sort of project would be more friendly then hostile... it would be nice to see it scooped up again.

[NapalmV5]

hold up/on guys i was just kidding about the matresses.. daium! hence my 2nd post: "as far as what $ NASA spent/is spending thats peanuts vs other gov programs/facilities/top secret/black projects/classified/u name it"

i like nasa just as much but i got beef with some of their idiotic/ridiculous space programs then again theyre the smart ones..

@ NN, come on lets not go there @ what nasa jump started and what not.. what about the unsung heroes of tech that we'll never read/hear/know about? nasa would be nothing without the people/the companies/etc. that worked/work with nasa

IC development? that came from the rosewell crash but of course jk

[xlink]

Considering that in less than 300 yrs since the beginning of the industrial revolution, we have already managed to screw up the planet’s ecological system badly and maybe irreparably, what makes you believe that the Earth or the conditions to live on it will last for about 999,999,799 more yrs?

math isn't your forte
999,999,699

[Asky]

Damn......my eyes
i kept wondering why "Seagate Recommended NASA Budget Boost " :p:

[Brother Esau]

And yet you don't want to fund the science that may save us? Feed the poor now so they can all die in 10 years (per your prediction)? Come on.


Well I believe that we would not need that if everything was not based on more and expoiting our resourses! For Example why do we have nuclear energy when we can harvest solar energy? Why do we still use petroleum to fuel cars when the gasoline engine has been obsolite for many , many years? Why do we spend all of our money on weapons and you're shool has to have a bake off to raise money for education funding? Sounds like the only thing man does well without prejudice is destroy things and exploit human life and our natural resourses for profit!

Do you realize that we are the only species on this planet that does not live in equal librium and harmony with this planet? Perhaps man should look more closely at himself to find Alien Life Form instead of outer space!

BESIDES ....WHAT ARE WE SAVING OURSELVES FROM.....OURSELVES???? YEA THAT MAKES SENSE SINCE WE ALLREADY HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT ONE!!

[iddqd]

Giving money to the poor has never made them become any less poor.

[ether.real]

Do you realize that we are the only species on this planet that does not live in equal librium and harmony with this planet?

Wrong in a very big way.

[Brother Esau]

Wrong in a very big way.


Well then what if I am so wrong? Prove it....I don't see the wombat species blowing sh*t up to prove who's d*ck is bigger in their conquest for greed and power!!!

[ether.real]

Everything from virus to larger orders of animals are capable of breaking local environmental equillibriums, usually via migration where new environmental areas are invaded by a foreign species. Meaning massive unbalancing of the region. The whole universe if :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing hostile.

[Brother Esau]

Everything from virus to larger orders of animals are capable of breaking local environmental equillibriums, usually via migration where new environmental areas are invaded by a foreign species. Meaning massive unbalancing of the region. The whole universe if :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing hostile.

O'h you mean because man say's so? Thats almost as lame as saying the wild Deer are encroaching on our living space. You better do more than that if you wish to debate with me! All of these things have been around since before man came along its the natural order of the the planet only the strong survives, but some how man has taken himself out of the equasion and is now an exception to the Natural order of all living things on this planet!

I got news for you chief man creates all of the diseases on this planet especially virusses!

[Spawne32]

as much as id love to see the expansion into space, you guys are right, we need to fix the serious problems here on earth first due to corrupt politicians.

[Brother Esau]

Hey ...Spawnee32 whats up baby?:)

[Spawne32]

Hey ...Spawnee32 whats up baby?:)

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[Brother Esau]

LOL...Good to see you too!:D Whats up in Philly these day's? I havent been back home to New Jersey since 2004!

[Spawne32]

LOL...Good to see you too!:D Whats up in Philly these day's? I havent been back home to New Jersey since 2004!

Same old dirty streets and "im gona get mugged at night" attitude :rofl: im busy here workin on my site.

[Kingcarcas]

Great more tax payers money dellegated to all the right places. I'm sure the Homeless and starving will be thrilled!

Unbelievable we cant even take care of what is going on down on Planet Earth and they are probing space! For what another planet to exploit and destroy?
A planet to "liberate" then setup a military base with giant lasers just in case our "freedoms" are ever threatened. :yepp:

[NoX]

math isn't your forte
999,999,699

Yeah, well, you know, that's just like your opinion man....

http://www.fileden.com/files/21439/profile_dude.jpg


Considering that in less than 300 yrs... :shrug:

[Revv23]

O'h you mean because man say's so? Thats almost as lame as saying the wild Deer are encroaching on our living space. You better do more than that if you wish to debate with me! All of these things have been around since before man came along its the natural order of the the planet only the strong survives, but some how man has taken himself out of the equasion and is now an exception to the Natural order of all living things on this planet!

I got news for you chief man creates all of the diseases on this planet especially virusses!

I'm trying to not be rude here - but are you completly immune to any sort of fact based logic? The boogie man doesn't exsist and there is no big conspiracy of man and weed is not good for you because it comes from the earth.

To respond to your post, man is pretty docile when compared to other species. Man has pretty much unlimited resources, and uses very little of them. If any other species had this amount of resources at thier fingertips they would be much more ruthless.

I hope you realize that the only sort of equilibrium that nature keeps is darwin's theory, survival of the fittest. kill or be killed. The reason living things that aren't man don't become overpopulated is because of starvation and disease. Like stated, when animals migrate into other ecosystems where food supplies are abundant they disrupt ecosystems in a huge way.

In fact, i would go as far to say that the human race is the only species of animal that doesn't consume as much as it possibly can. It is also the only species that goes out of it's way to improve the earth.

[[XC] gomeler]

In fact, i would go as far to say that the human race is the only species of animal that doesn't consume as much as it possibly can. It is also the only species that goes out of it's way to improve the earth.

Hey now, you need to give earthworms a bit of credit, haven't you ever played earthworm jim :shrug: Anywho, good post but don't bother arguing with brother esau, I distinctly remember his name from a few other posts and he doesn't accept logic very well.

[ether.real]

Ya, brother esau appears to be a typical alarmist. They have existed in every generation, claiming that their generation will be the last.

[Brother Esau]

You know what guy's I would usually respond differently but I will refrain myself!
I don't understand you're generation and way of thinking because contrary to what you may believe these are real issues and real problems that are going on in the world the mere fact that you choose to live in denial about whats being talked about the more I have to come to the conclusion that you're generation (Hot Pockets Generation) is gonna kill us all do to you're selfish me first and f*ck you attitude! As far as my credibility goes lets just say going by factual knowledge I happen to be a engineer with a 148 IQ , also a vetran and a demolition expert that serverd this country so I think that qualifies me as a little more knowledgable in general than most.

Conspiracy theories I doubt that! You're preaching Theory and quotes of theory I am stating facts! You know what the difference between theory and fact is?
Theory ...You don't have to be right or wrong ...thats why its theory!!!! As far as Animals Migrating to different Eco systems for food thats true but what other species consumes everything and leaves nothing but a path of waste behind it for all other living creatures? Once again that just validates what I have said about man taking himself out of the Natural Equasion of all living things! Or perhaps that Elephant graveyard does really exist? And they travel Hundreds of Miles to cheat death like a Emergency room and emerge fit as a fiddle!

As far as Culling the population of a species goes.....Why is our species responsible every single animal thats on the Endangered Species List or Extinct because of our actions? Quite possibly because we are so superior and Intelligent. or is it just through our greed and selfishness?

[[XC] gomeler]

I think this thread has gone far enough off topic. Now back to my Hot Pocket and patting myself on the shoulder for my IQ of 162. Oh, I forgot to add that Optimus Prime will surely save the world from all evil as he emerges on the big screen so we are safe!

[Brother Esau]

We are on Topic! Different views and opinions on space exploration and why we should or shouldn't agree with a bigger NASA Budget when we have a whole plethora of issues right here on Planet Earth to deal with.:clap: :clap: :clap: