Digitimes: Phenom delayed to Q1 '08

[Periander6]

http://digitimes.com/mobos/a20070702PD201.html

[Speederlander]

I honestly feel bad for AMD. What was their management doing with their R&D these last few years?

[saaya]

ouch

[Chewbenator]

Wait, didn't we JUST get information that it was coming out?

[RAMMAN]

Wait, didn't we JUST get information that it was coming out?

i think you are getting confused with barcelona ;) .

[SoulsCollective]

Wait, didn't we JUST get information that it was coming out?
No, that was Barcelona. Server stuff. Phenom is the desktop; like Opteron/X2.

Edit: Heh, crossposting ftw.

[Zytek_Fan]

*beats head on desk* Mother :banana:

I really wanted a Phenom X4 :(

[PCduster]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b101/peepsiknow/LOLCAT/porque.jpg

[terrace215]

*beats head on desk* Mother :banana:

I really wanted a Phenom X4 :(

No, you really didn't. Not at 2.0 to 2.5GHz. Trounced by the competition in everything on the desktop.

[alayashu]

MB makers also told Barcelona will be delayed to November last weeks.

BTW We already have a K10 thread, don't make a new thread on any rumor you find on the net.

[savantu]

No, you really didn't. Not at 2.0 to 2.5GHz. Trounced by the competition in everything on the desktop.

And how will things be different in Q1 ? Intel isn't standing still either.

[nn_step]

Isn't news

[Jacky]

I won't be surprised if this rumour comes true, though.
btw what about short selling amd stock once again :D ( if you haven't at 20$+ )

[Syn.]

No, you really didn't. Not at 2.0 to 2.5GHz. Trounced by the competition in everything on the desktop.

And you know this because?

I am yet to see someone review a retail version of Phenom, so tell me please how can you possibly come here and say that as if it where a proven fact?

[SOLDNER-MOFO64]

Isn't news

Two words, and a book for a sig. Get a grip mate....you alone make this forum 3x it's original size :down:

[biohead]

Two words, and a book for a sig. Get a grip mate....you alone make this forum 3x it's original size :down:

and what about your sig

[PetNorth]

http://digitimes.com/mobos/a20070702PD201.html

Mobo makers say AMD Phenom delayed until 1Q08, but AMD says launch remains set for 2H07 (update)

AMD has responded to this report by stating that the company's official launch schedule for Phenom remains the second half of 2007 and this schedule has not changed. The company added that it has not contacted motherboard makers concerning a delay to the schedule.

[Dimitriman]

Mobo makers say AMD Phenom delayed until 1Q08, but AMD says launch remains set for 2H07 (update)

AMD has responded to this report by stating that the company's official launch schedule for Phenom remains the second half of 2007 and this schedule has not changed. The company added that it has not contacted motherboard makers concerning a delay to the schedule.

The Fud = PWND

[informal]

Yeah Digitimes has been spoon fed by some angry AMD partner all this time.Someone is not getting its piece of the K10 pie and has been FUDing about K10 all along.What mobo manufacturer could that be?Hmm

Now we have official info directly from AMD that Phenom is not delayed ,and "some" mobo manuf. source that keeps spreading these "news"(like nn said,it isn't news)

Has everyone suddenly forgot the clueless Digitimes reports about native 45nm QC part from intel coming in Q4?Really reliable and informed sources and writers,no doubt about that.

With Phenom set to not appear in 2007, several motherboard makers have made plans to decrease shipments of socket AM2+ motherboards and to increase those of Intel's platform, added the sources. :rolleyes:
"sources"

[savantu]

Yeah , a launch on December 28 is still H2 2007....

[AbelJemka]

Yeah , a launch on December 28 is still H2 2007....
Indeed...YES :up:

[gallag]

Yeah , a launch on December 28 is still H2 2007....

probably be launch December , available jan-feb

[red]

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/32731/135/
Product manager Ian McNaughton told TG Daily that the CPU is “most likely” to launch sometime in Q4 with processors being available on the day of the announcement. However, McNaughton said that AMD could not comment on actual computer systems being available for purchase at that time.

What is that contradiction supposed to mean?

[Shintai]

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/32731/135/


What is that contradiction supposed to mean?

Maybe something like AMD can take orders for it that day, but delivery might be in the future of that day. I wish they would just speak clearly.

But it sure looks like a safeguard aka. cover my ass tactic if you cant buy one that day.

[hawkeyefan]

Maybe something like AMD can take orders for it that day, but delivery might be in the future of that day. I wish they would just speak clearly.

But it sure looks like a safeguard aka. cover my ass tactic if you cant buy one that day.

Or it could mean that retail and OEM CPUs will be available on that date, but AMD is not going to stick their necks out and claim you can buy a Phenom PC from one of its customers on that precise date.

[Shintai]

Or it could mean that retail and OEM CPUs will be available on that date, but AMD is not going to stick their necks out and claim you can buy a Phenom PC from one of its customers on that precise date.

That would be like the 65nm launch? In other words, hide beind the OEM card for 0 actual shipped CPUs?

I really dont hope its anything like that.

[vitaminc]

That would be like the 65nm launch? In other words, hide beind the OEM card for 0 actual shipped CPUs?

I really dont hope its anything like that.

65nm "launch" is rather pathetic. no actual PR events.

[hawkeyefan]

That would be like the 65nm launch? In other words, hide beind the OEM card for 0 actual shipped CPUs?

I really dont hope its anything like that.

I'm having a hard time reading into AMD's statement, but it seems to imply exactly the opposite:confused:

I read it to mean that consumers will have their hands on Phenom about the same time as OEMs, thus AMD won't go out on a limb and say that Dell or whoever will have PCs with Phenom at hard launch. They seem to be implying that the boxed CPUs are a guarantee...pre-built Phenom PCs are not. Which is why I wonder about OEMs getting Phenom late...maybe not enough time to actually build and ship systems before the CPUs hit retail?

[BrowncoatGR]

I'm having a hard time reading into AMD's statement, but it seems to imply exactly the opposite:confused:

I read it to mean that consumers will have their hands on Phenom about the same time as OEMs, thus AMD won't go out on a limb and say that Dell or whoever will have PCs with Phenom at hard launch. They seem to be implying that the boxed CPUs are a guarantee...pre-built Phenom PCs are not. Which is why I wonder about OEMs getting Phenom late...maybe not enough time to actually build and ship systems before the CPUs hit retail?

I think AMD learned their lesson. I wouldn't expect OEMs to get priority for Phenom

[hawkeyefan]

I think AMD learned their lesson. I wouldn't expect OEMs to get priority for Phenom

Exactly what I was thinking. Consumers of those OEM products don't generally know or care what is inside the machine anyway...they just want a good price.

Better to get early Phenom in the hands of enthusiasts. If this thing turns out to be fast enough, they can keep margins higher for a bit while they perfect the process and work out bugs. Start pushing product to OEMs once profits are rolling and yields are higher.

I hope;)

[Donnie27]

Or it could mean that retail and OEM CPUs will be available on that date, but AMD is not going to stick their necks out and claim you can buy a Phenom PC from one of its customers on that precise date.

Well, why don't they just lie like they have for the last year or so? It sounds like AMD doesn't know when Phenom will ship. But they want the market to think it will come more sooner than later.

http://www.techspot.com/news/25931-amd-says-barcelona-ships-in-august.html

AMD says Barcelona ships in August
By Justin Mann, TechSpot.com
Published: June 29, 2007, 3:40 PM EST

http://www.techspot.com/news/25828-amds-phenom-expected-in-november.html

AMD's Phenom expected in November
By Justin Mann, TechSpot.com
Published: June 22, 2007, 6:58 PM EST

Most other sites have similar news items. No, GamePC is hardly an AMD basher when they sell AMD products LOL!

[hawkeyefan]

Well, why don't just lie like they have for the last year or so? It sounds like AMD doesn't know when Phenom will ship. But they want the market to think it will come more sooner than later.

http://www.techspot.com/news/25931-amd-says-barcelona-ships-in-august.html



http://www.techspot.com/news/25828-amds-phenom-expected-in-november.html



Most other sites have similar news items. No, GamePC is hardly an AMD basher when they sell AMD products LOL!



None of what you posted here has any relevance at all to my posts.

[Donnie27]

None of what you posted here has any relevance at all to my posts.

Your posts have no relevance to reality either but who's complaining LOL!?

[hawkeyefan]

Your posts have no relevance to reality either but who's complainning LOL!?

:shakes:

Look, if you want to quote a post...what you type ought to have something to do with what you've quoted.

Your rant about AMD pushing back launch dates has nothing to do with my post...that you quoted.

[Donnie27]

Brilliant.

Look, if you want to quote a post...what you type ought to have something to do with what you've quoted.

Your rant about AMD pushing back launch dates has nothing to do with my post...that you quoted.

All AMD's done since Conroe's launched is BS anyone who'll listen. I posted what AMD and others told this one site. These guys aren't known for Bashing AMD. Dewd, that was hardly a Rant!

Take out the links and this is what you're calling a Rant:


Well, why don't they just lie like they have for the last year or so? It sounds like AMD doesn't know when Phenom will ship. But they want the market to think it will come more sooner than later.

Most other sites have similar news items. No, GamePC is hardly an AMD basher when they sell AMD products LOL


Some rant, that's rich.

thus AMD won't go out on a limb and say that Dell or whoever will have PCs with Phenom at hard launch. They seem to be implying that the boxed CPUs are a guarantee...pre-built Phenom PCs are not. Which is why I wonder about OEMs getting Phenom late...maybe not enough time to actually build and ship systems before the CPUs hit retail?

They already said November, there's no limb to go out on. Yet, you say no relevance? I said I don't think they know. Hell, why don't they just say it'll ship when its ready:)?

[BrowncoatGR]

where's the damn fire extinguisher?

[hawkeyefan]

They already said November, there's no limb to go out on. Yet, you say no relevance? I said I don't think they know. Hell, why don't they just say it'll ship when its ready:)?

None of what I posted had anything to do with any supposed launch date, yet that's what you keep yapping on about.

Here is what the my posts were concerning:
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/32731/135/

Product manager Ian McNaughton told TG Daily that the CPU is “most likely” to launch sometime in Q4 with processors being available on the day of the announcement. However, McNaughton said that AMD could not comment on actual computer systems being available for purchase at that time.


What is that contradiction supposed to mean?


DOES NOT FREAKING MATTER what the launch date is. Could be 3.5.2038 for all I care. Could be tommorow, could be December 31st. It does not matter. The statement is not claiming A DATE of release. It is claiming that CPUs will be available on the day of announcement, but actual Phenom-based PCs might not. Why?

Read more carefully and knock off the silly "Roflfloz3rs" BS.

When you quote my post and come in shrieking about AMD "lying" about release dates...and it has nothing to do with anything in my post...yeah it qualifies as a rant in my book.

The knee-jerk AMD bashing in this forum is reaching ludicrous levels lately. Can't even have a decent discussion anymore.

[Donnie27]

None of what I posted had anything to do with any supposed launch date, yet that's what you keep yapping on about.

Here is what the my posts were concerning:



DOES NOT FREAKING MATTER what the launch date is. Could be 3.5.2038 for all I care. Could be tommorow, could be December 31st. It does not matter. The statement is not claiming A DATE of release. It is claiming that CPUs will be available on the day of announcement, but actual Phenom-based PCs might not. Why?

Read more carefully and knock off the silly "Roflfloz3rs" BS.

When you quote my post and come in shrieking about AMD "lying" about release dates...and it has nothing to do with anything in my post...yeah it qualifies as a rant in my book.

The knee-jerk AMD bashing in this forum is reaching ludicrous levels lately. Can't even have a decent discussion anymore.

Here, I give you a rant!

Oh WOW, some of the oldest "BS" Lines around, "read more carefully", "knee-jerk", "rant", "yapping", "silly", and you're bee-yotching about "reaching ludicrous levels". Honestly, you don't see that you're part of the frackin' problem? If you disagree, just say why and leave all of YOUR LAME BS "in quotes" out of it:rolleyes:

I have 5 computers running in my house, 3 Intel's and 2 AMD's. The system listed is my #1. The number 2 is an A64 3500+ that I still use a lot.

I'm saddened if* it's late. It means higher prices and less effort on Intel's part (Supply and Demand). Even Intel F@ns can't want that.

[Donnie27]

where's the damn fire extinguisher?

Where are the flames?