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major_john
07-01-2007, 12:28 AM
Pentium E2000 : stepping M0,from 27 July (http://www.matbe.com/actualites/16366/intel-pentium-e2000-stepping-m0/)(@matbe.com)

Sorry :D it's some kind of French there,but the point is that Intel is coming with a new stepping for their Pentium E2140 & E 2160...
TDP on extending HALT(C1E) will change from 12 to 8 Watts,and the maximum temperature will rise from 61,4 to 73,2 Celsius degrees...
It's seems a movement to limit OC...or not?...:shrug:

Shintai
07-01-2007, 12:36 AM
It will improve OC limit. The temp change is the max limit change. I guess due to new packing.

major_john
07-01-2007, 12:46 AM
Thanks,Shintai.
Good news,indeed ;)

zerazax
07-01-2007, 12:58 AM
More maximum temperature = more voltage = more OC!:D

If anything, this means Intel is more committed to OC'in than ever

Shintai
07-01-2007, 12:58 AM
On a sidenote, all the E6x50 and some 4000 series along with the quads are getting the same update. They are just G0 stepping tho.

Neon Biker
07-01-2007, 01:36 AM
I hope these things will OC better, just like the E6x50 G0s, but the FSB wall will probably still be there in the 350-400MHz region, so unless you have a 10x multi it's very unlikely you'll see much of a difference. Based on this reasoning I suppose the E4400 will be the way to go (or E2180, but this one only comes out in August).

The question is: how can you distinguish between the new M0s and the old L2s just by looking at the box?

FischOderAal
07-01-2007, 02:31 AM
The question is: how can you distinguish between the new M0s and the old L2s just by looking at the box?

that's what I'm interested in, too :)

Shintai
07-01-2007, 02:47 AM
that's what I'm interested in, too :)

There is a SPEC number on the boxes that tells everything.

HamidFULL
07-01-2007, 03:32 AM
I bet it have better OC ability than L2 because its brother of G0 Step!
B2 Replaced by G0
L2 Replaced by M0

FischOderAal
07-01-2007, 05:37 AM
There is a SPEC number on the boxes that tells everything.

just read @ VR-Zone that they'll get a new SSPEC. but thanks anyway :)

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=5095

mstp2009
07-01-2007, 05:43 AM
M0 for these is based on the G0 stepping for the higher end parts (why they aren't all just listed as G0 makes no sense to me).

And yes, these should OC like a banshee (assuming no FSB limitations).

freecableguy
07-01-2007, 06:03 AM
New stepping always equals new sSpec.

irev210
07-01-2007, 07:03 AM
M0 for these is based on the G0 stepping for the higher end parts (why they aren't all just listed as G0 makes no sense to me).

And yes, these should OC like a banshee (assuming no FSB limitations).



G0 = Conroe

M0 = native allendale




M0 likes voltage at least, but is nothing like G0.

Spawne32
07-01-2007, 07:04 AM
Damn and i just ordered a 2140 lol

EvlUndrWareNome
07-01-2007, 08:05 AM
this is nice and all, but why cant intel come up with a solution to reduce and not increase my house temperatures? :p

onewingedangel
07-01-2007, 08:10 AM
The new chips consume less power and output less heat than the older steppings - the raised max temp means that it can hit higher temps safely though, not that it will output more heat at a given speed.

Shintai
07-01-2007, 09:45 AM
this is nice and all, but why cant intel come up with a solution to reduce and not increase my house temperatures? :p

They are...just because the tcasemax can reach 70C safely doesn´t mean it will. And the idle modes got lower power usage.

A mobile p-m/Core/C2D got a tcasemax of 100C and the P965 102C. They must use more power than a quadcore then eh? :p:

erwinz
07-01-2007, 08:04 PM
posts some results please.. :)