AMD Native x86 Quad-Cores Shipping In August

[mascaras]

AMD Native x86 Quad-Cores Shipping In August

AMD announced today that Quad-Core AMD Opteron™ processors, code-named “Barcelona,” are planned for shipment in both standard and low power versions at launch later this summer. This would be the first time AMD has made both standard and low power parts immediately available as part of a new processor launch.

During this first launch, processor speeds are expected to be available up to 2.0 GHz.

Source: AMD.com (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~118193,00.html)

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=33924


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[Lane-k]

Yes.. in adidtion, in end of september - October the higher speed core will arrive too... i don't expect in real more of K8L a good equality in performance of the Core 2- Quad actually here from Intel (.. But... this give us a good idea of what K10, Phenom will give us then..

[Periander6]

http://roborat64.blogspot.com/2007/06/leaked-amd-press-release-transcript.html

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[madcho]

Yes.. in adidtion, in end of september - October the higher speed core will arrive too... i don't expect in real more of K8L a good equality in performance of the Core 2- Quad actually here from Intel (.. But... this give us a good idea of what K10, Phenom will give us then..

AMD is gonna get out K10. K8L is for K8 laptop ;)

[Shintai]

http://roborat64.blogspot.com/2007/06/leaked-amd-press-release-transcript.html

:up:

So true. No wonder they posted it on the iPhone day to try and cover it.

[triple_A]

I cant wait to see how these will perform...

I think (hope not) that they won't perform that great.. wouldn't AMD be showing benchies etc. all over the place if they did?

Oh well, I really hope these will at least keep up with intels chips..

[MarlboroMan]

Go barcelona, go!

Hope that clock per clock competition, AMD's new solution will beat Intel's solution!
We need competition, so that processors prices drop even more :D

[Jimmer411]

So instead of building my new rig (C2D unless AMD shows something nice) I have to wait a little longer...

I just hope they can overclock to 3ghz+

[red]

Awesome! 2GHz K10 might beat 2GHz Clovertown :shocked: Successs.

[Fatal Error]

2GHz is kinda low or it's just me?
I mean how the hell this thing would compete Intel?
Low power + low frequencies = low perfomance

[DoubleZero]

So true. No wonder they posted it on the iPhone day to try and cover it.
Funny that you don't have nothing against that biased blog like you had against the other... but then again, i wouldn't expect nothing less from a rabid fanboy like you.

[informal]

Yeah,roborat's blog is sharikou's blog twin brother ,only on the intel extreme fanboi side of the fence.Sad.

[Periander6]

Yeah,roborat's blog is sharikou's blog twin brother ,only on the intel extreme fanboi side of the fence.Sad.

The difference is that AMD has managed to take the most extreme anti-AMD rants and turn them into reality.

AM2
4X4
Brisbane
2900
2600/2400

Disappointments all, most of them late to boot. Now we have Barcelona launching at a top Speed of 2.0GHz. Even the most extreme Intel fanbois didn't expect AMD's execution to be so horrid over the last year+, but their predictions of doom have been closest to the truth over that time.

[BrowncoatGR]

2GHz is kinda low or it's just me?
I mean how the hell this thing would compete Intel?
Low power + low frequencies = low perfomance
Well Opteron started with quite low clocks as well( 1.6 GHZ) and was outperformed by the highest clocked Athlon XP actually so this doesnt say anything about the future of K10

[bigdaddy25fb]

I love watching these threads go downhill right after the first post. Personally I have no speculation about K10. We have nothing solid to stand on in terms of benches so only time will tell in this case.

[NH|Delph1]

I'm certainly impressed by the technical advantages of K10, but not so impressed by AMD's execution and constant whining about Intel's market position.

K10 is obviously here and most likely here to stay. The architectural improvements should make it a processor more than up to par with Core, but that's just in theory.

However, the most important question has now been asked yet (here): does it overclock? and if so how much? Do we still have the annoying cold bugs everywhere or can we hit 5GHz with ease? ;)

//Andreas

[Ubermann]

The whole world news reports the problem with K10 and low frequencies.

BUT you still have to listen to AMD's BS about that:

"AMD has prioritized production of our low power and standard power products because our customers and ecosystem demand it."

Ecosystem..yeah right!

Same can be said about Intel and their "ecosystem" thoughts when they go lead free:

"Intel is taking an aggressive stance toward environmental sustainability, from the elimination of lead and a focus on greater energy efficiency of our products to fewer air emissions and more water and materials recycling"

To me it sounds like it just a natural step when you dont have any use for lead and going smaller to 45nm.

But..whatever they can fool us to think about their superkindness to our ecosystem.

[triple_A]

Hopefully AMD will be shipping some samples to some review sites (and well known XS members ofcourse ;) ) so we can all just stop the speculations etc.
I can't take it anymore :D

[Shintai]

The whole world news reports the problem with K10 and low frequencies.

BUT you still have to listen to AMD's BS about that:

"AMD has prioritized production of our low power and standard power products because our customers and ecosystem demand it."

Ecosystem..yeah right!

Same can be said about Intel and their "ecosystem" thoughts when they go lead free:

"Intel is taking an aggressive stance toward environmental sustainability, from the elimination of lead and a focus on greater energy efficiency of our products to fewer air emissions and more water and materials recycling"

To me it sounds like it just a natural step when you dont have any use for lead and going smaller to 45nm.

But..whatever they can fool us to think about their superkindness to our ecosystem.

For the lead part its abit different. EU banned lead in electronics. So if Intel (and AMD) didn´t remove it they wouldn´t be allowed to sell any CPU, chipsets etc in the EU. But since you dont want to have 2 productions..one with and one without. Specially since its something you know is better for everyone without lead. then you make a little PR spin about it.

And AMDs low power ecosystem is also the same joke. 68 and 95W 1.9-2.0Ghz quads is obviously going to save the world..not. We already have 50 (1.86 and soon 2Ghz)and 80W (2.33Ghz)quads.

I just wish we had less spins and crap and just plain simple truth.

[Clairvoyant129]

For the lead part its abit different. EU banned lead in electronics. So if Intel (and AMD) didn´t remove it they wouldn´t be allowed to sell any CPU, chipsets etc in the EU. But since you dont want to have 2 productions..one with and one without. Specially since its something you know is better for everyone without lead. then you make a little PR spin about it.

And AMDs low power ecosystem is also the same joke. 68 and 95W 1.9-2.0Ghz quads is obviously going to save the world..not. We already have 50 (1.86 and soon 2Ghz)and 80W (2.33Ghz)quads.

I just wish we had less spins and crap and just plain simple truth.

It's not about performance anymore, remember Randy Allen in his interview few months back about how K10 will outperform Intel's best quad core offerings by 40%+?

Here is what he says now,

On some jobs, Barcelona will beat Intel's fastest chips, and on some jobs Intel may report better results, Mr. Allen said.

Read more about it here,

http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/AMD-Barcelona-Chip-ftopict242691.html

It's about energy efficiency now. :rolleyes:

[thenrz]

I love watching these threads go downhill right after the first post. Personally I have no speculation about K10. We have nothing solid to stand on in terms of benches so only time will tell in this case.


I totally agree. There are no benchmarks to determine a 'win' for either side. I've been using AMD products for quite a while now, but I find no reason to put on my 'AMD ROCKS!!!111" shirt.

C2D is a solid platform that has proven itself with everything from real world benchies to Pi and beyond. AMD has made a couple seemingly bad business moves that are costing them, but at the same time...will K10, Barcelona, or whatever beat C2D clock for clock and perhaps more? Only time will tell.

As far as I'm concerned, I've been waiting on my next upgrade until all of this hype settles down. When I see some NUMBERS, I will then make my decision.




This fanboy sh*t has just got to stop. If you're an Intel fan, that's great! Good for you. That's your choice, and we'd all appreciate if you kept the useless banter out of here in place for decent conversation.

[Shintai]

I totally agree. There are no benchmarks to determine a 'win' for either side. I've been using AMD products for quite a while now, but I find no reason to put on my 'AMD ROCKS!!!111" shirt.

C2D is a solid platform that has proven itself with everything from real world benchies to Pi and beyond. AMD has made a couple seemingly bad business moves that are costing them, but at the same time...will K10, Barcelona, or whatever beat C2D clock for clock and perhaps more? Only time will tell.

As far as I'm concerned, I've been waiting on my next upgrade until all of this hype settles down. When I see some NUMBERS, I will then make my decision.




This fanboy sh*t has just got to stop. If you're an Intel fan, that's great! Good for you. That's your choice, and we'd all appreciate if you kept the useless banter out of here in place for decent conversation.

There is a little problem hiding. Lets see on what terms people also get called fanboys.

1. Any critizism of company
2. Anyone not believing in the estimate/extrapolated numbers.
3. Anyone not believing in the spin of press releases or information.
4. Anyone not jumping on the hype wagon.

Its like saying, if you dont believe the PS3 can do 2Tflops then you are an Xbox fanboy. We had all the same crap with the 2900XT/2600XT cards. Since its the same people that quickly call the fanboy cry on others if its questioned. Its close to reach Apple level kind of "support".

So unless your view of a decent conversation is a thread filled with this:
1. OCs insanely, they could easily release 2.5-3Ghz now too.
2. 2Ghz because it will beat a 3Ghz Core 2 easily.
3. 50-70% IPC boost.
4. Hardly zipping to the power, super efficient.

Then I dont see whats wrong.

There is always some on both sides that crosses the line. But for the major part its simply a matter of people not wanting to accept the facts. Hype and believing has taken over. If I 3months ago said barcelona would only ship at 2ghz I would be called many bad things. But after the 2Ghz number you suddenly got people inventing new ways to justify it. Abit like the drivers we still wait on for the R600 series. A oneway view is not good either.

But hopefully we should soon get this settled for good. When we can compare a 2Ghz Clovertown with a 2Ghz Barcelona.

[HamidFULL]

too late! :down: Penryn, Golden Overclocker Coming! :up:

[zerazax]

I want to see some benchies soon hopefully. Will hopefully make my near computer build decision a lot harder if they are good.

[EternityZX9]

There is a little problem hiding. Lets see on what terms people also get called fanboys.

1. Any critizism of company
2. Anyone not believing in the estimate/extrapolated numbers.
3. Anyone not believing in the spin of press releases or information.
4. Anyone not jumping on the hype wagon.

Its like saying, if you dont believe the PS3 can do 2Tflops then you are an Xbox fanboy. We had all the same crap with the 2900XT/2600XT cards. Since its the same people that quickly call the fanboy cry on others if its questioned. Its close to reach Apple level kind of "support".

So unless your view of a decent conversation is a thread filled with this:
1. OCs insanely, they could easily release 2.5-3Ghz now too.
2. 2Ghz because it will beat a 3Ghz Core 2 easily.
3. 50-70% IPC boost.
4. Hardly zipping to the power, super efficient.

Then I dont see whats wrong.

There is always some on both sides that crosses the line. But for the major part its simply a matter of people not wanting to accept the facts. Hype and believing has taken over. If I 3months ago said barcelona would only ship at 2ghz I would be called many bad things. But after the 2Ghz number you suddenly got people inventing new ways to justify it. Abit like the drivers we still wait on for the R600 series. A oneway view is not good either.

But hopefully we should soon get this settled for good. When we can compare a 2Ghz Clovertown with a 2Ghz Barcelona.

Well, there's a first for everything...

I actually have to agree with Shintai's statement. A lot of people are just pissed at AMD (including me). I don't want AMD to release a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty product...only means a bigger monopoly for Intel and in the end higher prices for consumers and slower technology advancement.

A lot of people are just venting and ranting...and that's what you're seeing in these comments posted.

[ColdWinter]

Everytime I see a thread about release dates I open it up thinking I'll get to read news and reviews and what not. What I find are comments along the lines of "AMD sucks" this "Intel Fanboi" that and general bickering among the groups with almost everyone throwing their weight around. Honestly it's just tiring now.

Since when has thread crapping and speculation and bickering in threads become cool?

I agree with those that keep reminding people not to speculate and to wait for real numbers. And until those come up I guess I'll just have to sit back and not open up anymore threads like these.

[Kunaak]

for me, I dont care what is best at 2 ghz, I want to see what it takes for a barcelona to compete against a 4 ghz conroe, or higher.
if it takes a 3 ghz barcelona to do that... and its not even close to stable at that kinda speed... then it wont matter at all for me.

I want to see overclocked barcelonas take on 5 ghz conroes....
if it cant step up to that plate, all the benchmarks in the world wont mean anything to me.

basically put... if these things arent either insanely fast at low ghz, or very very overclockable (like 80% overclocks or better) then it just wont matter much to me.

I am looking forward to the Barcelona, but after watching recent boring hardware like the UN-HD 2900XT, and the UN-HD 2600 and 2400 series, only trying to match current hardware... I am definatly ready for something that just blows me away, with something new and exciting... hopefully the barcelona has that.

[nn_step]

One would hope that AMD really turns around their product streak this year and get some more "wow" products out

[Morais]

too late! :down: Penryn, Golden Overclocker Coming! :up:
This topic has nothing with intel :shakes:

[madcho]

Penryn is for 2008 guy's :D

AMD is gonna take back the Lead :up:

[Zytek_Fan]

Everytime I see a thread about release dates I open it up thinking I'll get to read news and reviews and what not. What I find are comments along the lines of "AMD sucks" this "Intel Fanboi" that and general bickering among the groups with almost everyone throwing their weight around. Honestly it's just tiring now.

Since when has thread crapping and speculation and bickering in threads become cool?

I agree with those that keep reminding people not to speculate and to wait for real numbers. And until those come up I guess I'll just have to sit back and not open up anymore threads like these.

That's what I keep telling people.

I've noticed quite a few Intel fanboys trolling AMD K10 related threads :mad:

Look at my sig people: "People who for whatever reason don't want to see the truth can be acutely hostile to it and shrill in their denunciation of it. They frequently turn their venomous antagonism on whoever dares to point out that truth... To those seeking the truth, its a matter of simple, rational, self interest to always keep reality in view. Truth is rooted in reality, after all, not the imagination."

Basically, quite making assumptions until the truth is revealed to us. I'm getting rather tired of hearing "OMG 2.0ghz K10 vs 3.0ghz Clovertown OMG IT'S GOING TO LOSE." I thought the whole gigahertz thing got buried with Netburst but apparently not. What matters is performance per cycle. What's going to happen if launch K10 @ 2.0ghz matches or bests 3.0ghz Clovertown?



I really need/would like a new build and Core 2 is obviously my first choice for a build in August, but I might wait to see what K10 shows.

[madcho]

Ummm.... they are launching the server version of Penryn (harpertown Quad Core and Wolfdale-DP dual core) cpus second half of this year with the Stoakley platform and they are also "drop in" replacements for some (read: NOT ALL!) 5000 series boards. Sorry buddy.... but 45nm Intel parts will probably be out in volume before K10 has mroe than a few thousand units on the market.

but no Penryn for desktop this year ;)

[awdrifter]

If this is true, even at 2ghz, it's good news.

[Emerica]

One would hope that AMD really turns around their product streak this year and get some more "wow" products out

That is what I am hoping. Even though I have a conroe system I still want AMD to come back. And I really hope that their quad cores are competition for Intel's quad core.

[Brother Esau]

2GHz is kinda low or it's just me?
I mean how the hell this thing would compete Intel?
Low power + low frequencies = low perfomance

Thats like saying a AMD 3700+ was slower that my P4 670 3.8ghz but in actual fact the 3700+ Sandy was just as fast and about $450.00 cheaper than what i paid for the P4 670:up:

[tictac]

welcome.. native quad core...

[terrace215]

but no Penryn for desktop this year ;)

Okay, so:

(1) Given the advanced state of Intel's 45nm parts, they can clearly launch a 45nm desktop extreme part whenever they want to. Will they just happen to spoil the Phenom launch? Seems likely.


(2) Phenom won't touch Kentsfield, let alone Intel's 45nm desktop parts: Phenom is relatively more of a disaster than Barcelona, because:
- single-socket, so no advantage from per-part memory bandwidth
- desktop applications are less likely to be multithreaded
And don't forget that you've not yet seen what the X38 brings to the table.

[GoThr3k]

I love watching these threads go downhill right after the first post. Personally I have no speculation about K10. We have nothing solid to stand on in terms of benches so only time will tell in this case.

QFT

[tictac]

hmm..yet too see rd 790 on the table.. 16x + 16x crossfire link.. yummY

[[XC] Teroedni]

Finnally some legimate news


Im so looking forward to this:D

Im just hope that they will come in enough supplies so i dont have to wait 2 more months just to be able to get a hold on some Barcelonas.

[EternityZX9]

Okay, so:

(1) Given the advanced state of Intel's 45nm parts, they can clearly launch a 45nm desktop extreme part whenever they want to. Will they just happen to spoil the Phenom launch? Seems likely.


(2) Phenom won't touch Kentsfield, let alone Intel's 45nm desktop parts: Phenom is relatively more of a disaster than Barcelona, because:
- single-socket, so no advantage from per-part memory bandwidth
- desktop applications are less likely to be multithreaded
And don't forget that you've not yet seen what the X38 brings to the table.

Are you for real? Is this kid serious?

And I suppose you've seen EXACTLY what an X38 board can do or what Barcelona and/or the Phenom processors can do...LOLOL.

It'd be wise not to count your chickens before they hatch.

Edit: Now if this is speculation that's fine, but I'd re-word what you're saying.

[coldpower27]

Well expecting the 2GHZ Barcelona to beat the 3GHZ Clovertown is extremely high expectations, even AMD's most positive spin only places its at 40% faster then Clovertown for SpecFP or something to that extent.

GHZ goes out the window when your comparing 2 architectures of very different philosophies, but when both are targeting the same ideas, high IPC moderate clockspeed you don't expect anything outstanding.

I would be very surprised if K10 is actually 50% more efficient then Core microarchitecture. That's like what an 80% improvement in IPC over K8, doubtful at best.

At 2GHZ Quad Core AMD is unlikely to stand much of a chance performance wise, they only thing they can do is price it competitively to stay in the game.

[coldpower27]

That's what I keep telling people.

I've noticed quite a few Intel fanboys trolling AMD K10 related threads :mad:

Look at my sig people: "People who for whatever reason don't want to see the truth can be acutely hostile to it and shrill in their denunciation of it. They frequently turn their venomous antagonism on whoever dares to point out that truth... To those seeking the truth, its a matter of simple, rational, self interest to always keep reality in view. Truth is rooted in reality, after all, not the imagination."

Basically, quite making assumptions until the truth is revealed to us. I'm getting rather tired of hearing "OMG 2.0ghz K10 vs 3.0ghz Clovertown OMG IT'S GOING TO LOSE." I thought the whole gigahertz thing got buried with Netburst but apparently not. What matters is performance per cycle. What's going to happen if launch K10 @ 2.0ghz matches or bests 3.0ghz Clovertown?

I really need/would like a new build and Core 2 is obviously my first choice for a build in August, but I might wait to see what K10 shows.

The probability of this occurring is minimal It took AMD about 4 Years to make the K7 to K8 transistion 1999 to 2003, and now another 4 years give or take for the K8 to K10 transition, 2003 to 2007, IPC only improved by 20% from K7 per core to K8 give or take (initially), and your expecting somehow 80% from the get go per core.

K10 for the desktop is very far out, the rumors currently out now place a limited launch of a few SKU's in Q4 2007, with a more completely lineup in Q1 2008.

If your building a Core 2 build in August and not Xeon DP/MP system then Intel is the only game in town,

[mion]

I just hope for two things; that it won't be like RD600 and R600 release, and it won't power hangry for need new connectors.

[californian7856]

I just hope for two things; that it won't be like RD600 and R600 release, and it won't power hangry for need new connectors.

lol 2 floppedst moment with XX600 ... man RD600 flopepd soo hard ... the only advantage it has over 965/680i which came out wayyy b4 is async RAM, fsb function ... other than that 965/680i can OC RAM wayy past RD600


well K8 did some magic with lower clock speed beating netburst .. hopefully k10 wont just catch up but able to surpass say Q6600 @ 3.6GHz with 2+GHz .... otherwise i see no point of getting it

[xlink]

The difference is that AMD has managed to take the most extreme anti-AMD rants and turn them into reality.

AM2
4X4
Brisbane
2900
2600/2400

Disappointments all, most of them late to boot. Now we have Barcelona launching at a top Speed of 2.0GHz. Even the most extreme Intel fanbois didn't expect AMD's execution to be so horrid over the last year+, but their predictions of doom have been closest to the truth over that time.

how is AM2 a disappointment?

[Zytek_Fan]

how is AM2 a disappointment?

I don't know either. AM2 finally brought DDR2 mainstream resulting in DDR2 price drops :D

[californian7856]

I don't know either. AM2 finally brought DDR2 mainstream resulting in DDR2 price drops :D

what a load of crap ... so ur saying DDR2 price dropping due to AM2 .. wow ...ummm DDR2 drop around Feb , March time frame .. it has nothing to do with AM2.. if anything its conroe...

[Shadowmage]

You do realize that K10 is launching for servers first... where the highest profit margins are and where they stand to make the biggest progress if K10 is a success. Mark my words.... you WILL NOT see K10 for desktop in 2007. If they do manage to launch it in 2007.... it'll be a paper or a soft launch for sure and you wouldn't be able to get your hands on them until 2008.

It's probably going to be the same as with Intel. AMD Phenom FX and Intel Extreme Editions first.

[Periander6]

how is AM2 a disappointment?

Pushing everyone into switching sockets and memory for what turned out to be microscopic performance improvements? If it bothers you, just replace it RD600 on my list. :)

[tictac]

yeah.. ddr2 price getting cheaper than ddr. 1gb stick finally affordable.. thx

[Trunks]

Pushing everyone into switching sockets and memory for what turned out to be microscopic performance improvements? If it bothers you, just replace it RD600 on my list. :)

Intel did the same thing with there s478 >> s775, Was it also for the microscopic performance improvements?

[DoubleZero]

There is a little problem hiding. Lets see on what terms people also get called fanboys.

Your a fanboy because you bashed an article from a blog that you called biased, an article that i'm still waiting for
someone to point out where was biased and where was wrong and days latter spill out a "So true" about a stupid and nonsense article from someone that says things like "K10 is K8's retarded cousin".

One of zillions of examples, it amuses me that at this point you try to pass yourself as someone that just don't believe the hype.

[Shintai]

Your a fanboy because you bashed an article from a blog that you called biased, an article that i'm still waiting for
someone to point out where was biased and where was wrong and days latter spill out a "So true" about a stupid and nonsense article from someone that says things like "K10 is K8's retarded cousin".

One of zillions of examples, it amuses me that at this point you try to pass yourself as someone that just don't believe the hype.

I see. So your issue is absicly. the one you praised showed up to be wrong. The guy that showed it might be Intel biased. But nomatter how you try and define it. His facts was right in that article.

One of them must have been wrong, and AMDs press release showed us who.

So no, I´m not a fanboy trying to defend a certain company by all means. You should wakeup to the actual facts today. 2Ghz, not 2.5Ghz or higher!

[StealthyFish]

from what I've heard and seen, Yorksfield (penryn) ran some office productivity test and scored 22k while barcelona is predicted to do around 16k. not that impressive.... but let's wait for some more benchmarks.

[DoubleZero]

I see. So your issue is absicly. the one you praised showed up to be wrong. The guy that showed it might be Intel biased. But nomatter how you try and define it. His facts was right in that article.

One of them must have been wrong, and AMDs press release showed us who.


So your definition or right facts is someone picking a AMD press release, doctor it with fictional stuff and try to pass it as a leaked document, this done by someone that says "K10 is K8's retarded cousin" yes i'm the one with a problem. :clap:

I didn't praise no one, your detachment with reality and the way you make up stuff is worrying, maybe you should get fresh air more often. I've said it was the most accurate view of K10 state until that date, i've asked for someone to come forth with something more accurate and no one did, including you.

[SOLDNER-MOFO64]

Here, I don't mean to flame anyone in particular, but you guys need to get a handle on spelling. Regardless of how many hours a day you spend deciphering code, or reading up tech-site's regarding all the in's & out's and complexities of cpu architectures. At the end of the day virtually every single one of you either cannot read what you yourselves have typed or you're seriously in need of spending some time with diction or pay more attention in the English classes you have in your time-table.

Some people may say it's irrelevant, and that not everyone cares about the mistakes. Well, that crap. If INTEL or AMD made mistakes at the rate most of you do, they'd BOTH be bankrupt and you lot would be at the head of the line to whine about them.

Literacy is the word of today :rofl:

[Ubermann]

Most useless post ever ?
What do we have to do with INTEL and AMD's R&D and such ?

[Lane-k]

AMD is gonna get out K10. K8L is for K8 laptop ;)


I m not right with you.. AMD have use the code K8L in all presentation for the Barcelona during 2006.. And K10 have be normally the name for their next architecture.. including Phenom.. But like it's make sometimes now, it's possible AMD have decided change the code "name" of the architecture...

In real..it's not important at all... I m curious to see more what will happend next in performance, i m tired see the CD2 with no competitor yet..

AM2 is not a disapointment, AM2 is just what it have be designed for, addition+ to A64 the DDR2, that's all... Now it's really time AMD come back with new architecture and not only a A64 updated version..

Sorry for my english Soldner, but here like you can see 95% of peoples are not from US, UK or Scotland.. and the english is not their natural language..

[Solarfall]

all though i own a c2d setup now i really hope that AMD launches a good cpu.. that will bring some healthy competition to the marker.

[gallag]

Well, that crap.

Literacy is the word of today :rofl:

Did you mean "That is crap" or "Thats crap". Not to worry, I don't think anyone is sad enough to notice the odd mistake, After all, Wee are not on an English grammar forum.

Regards Gallag

[Iconyu]

I don't know either. AM2 finally brought DDR2 mainstream resulting in DDR2 price drops :D

That was overproduction due to Vista sale expectation. Now all the plant's have ramped up, but no one is investing in 4gb for their Vista Ultimate rigs.

[Fraggle]

If somebody can`t even be bothered to spell properly then what they`re writing is not important to them and is unlikely to be worth reading. This fashionable practice of making a virtue out of quasi-illiteracy really aggravates me. I imagine that if someone persistently spelled your name incorrectly when writing to you that it would get up your nose soon enough.

[nemrod]

Here, I don't mean to flame anyone in particular, but you guys need to get a handle on spelling. Regardless of how many hours a day you spend deciphering code, or reading up tech-site's regarding all the in's & out's and complexities of cpu architectures. At the end of the day virtually every single one of you either cannot read what you yourselves have typed or you're seriously in need of spending some time with diction or pay more attention in the English classes you have in your time-table.

Some people may say it's irrelevant, and that not everyone cares about the mistakes. Well, that crap. If INTEL or AMD made mistakes at the rate most of you do, they'd BOTH be bankrupt and you lot would be at the head of the line to whine about them.

Literacy is the word of today :rofl:

Si tu préfères, on peut discuter en français. je suis persuadé que de mon coté ce sera bien plus facile de m'exprimer en faisant un minimum de fautes et dans un langage tout à fait correct :)

If somebody can`t even be bothered to spell properly then what they`re writing is not important to them and is unlikely to be worth reading. This fashionable practice of making a virtue out of quasi-illiteracy really aggravates me. I imagine that if someone persistently spelled your name incorrectly when writing to you that it would get up your nose soon enough.

C'est pareil pour toi, tu verras, j'orthographierais beaucoup mieux. C'est donc avec plaisir que nous poursuivrons en français cette intéressante discussion.

[Iconyu]

Si tu préfères, on peut discuter en français. je suis persuadé que de mon coté ce sera bien plus facile de m'exprimer en faisant un minimum de fautes et dans un langage tout à fait correct :)

C'est pareil pour toi, tu verras, j'orthographierais beaucoup mieux. C'est donc avec plaisir que nous poursuivrons en français cette intéressante discussion.

I'm sure you could express yourself better in French, but I appreciate your efforts in English thus far.

[Ubermann]

Omg im not good at all in English so i better use Swedish then so the die hard spell checkers is satisfied and can live thru another day without seeing spelling problems.
You find them on every forum, they just there to check spelling and nothing else.
Get a life :down:

Totally off topic but i didnt start it and i hope it ends here.

[NH|Delph1]

How about if we start www.XtremeSpelling.com and everyone can all be happy :D

//Andreas

[FUGGER]

Nemrod, English only please.

This is an AMD news thread, keep it on topic.

[MAS]

http://www.planet3dnow.de/news_images/barcelona_launch.gif

note 2.2 GHz model shipping in August






http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8499/786768766ka0.png
http://www.softlayer.com/servers_dpmc_compare.html

[dinos22]

i love the whole "native" name
as if it means anything lol

PR department FTW :rolleyes:

[Shintai]

http://www.planet3dnow.de/news_images/barcelona_launch.gif

note 2.2 GHz model shipping in August






http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8499/786768766ka0.png
http://www.softlayer.com/servers_dpmc_compare.html

That looks wrong, unless the AMD press release was wrong. Also arcoding to your site they would only ship one SKU at launch...

And the july thing is already busted. First to ship in august.

And a last note, the model numbers in your 2 charts dont even mix at all.

[SOLDNER-MOFO64]

Did you mean "That is crap" or "Thats crap". Not to worry, I don't think anyone is sad enough to notice the odd mistake, After all, Wee are not on an English grammar forum.

Regards Gallag

That's. I missed the 's at the end. Unlike most others who miss a letter out of every word, words out of every sentence and have no intention of fixing. They can discuss the complexities of a cpu's architecture but they can't type a proper sentence OR use a spell-checker for that matter. A true indication of extreme intelligence :ROTF:

If somebody can`t even be bothered to spell properly then what they`re writing is not important to them and is unlikely to be worth reading. This fashionable practice of making a virtue out of quasi-illiteracy really aggravates me. I imagine that if someone persistently spelled your name incorrectly when writing to you that it would get up your nose soon enough.

:up: nail on the metaphorical head :D

Omg im not good at all in English so i better use Swedish then so the die hard spell checkers is satisfied and can live thru another day without seeing spelling problems.
You find them on every forum, they just there to check spelling and nothing else.
Get a life :down:

UBARMIIIN....do you do anything else other than sit on your computer tweaking memory timings and running 3D MARK? I suggest you try to remember where the dictionary lives in your house. You manage to type away in english no problem here, shame you can't check what you type.

OOps sorry for spelling your name wrong, it's just I have no way to remember words even when they are written on the page infront of me and all I need do is copy them....go figure:rofl:

How about if we start www.XtremeSpelling.com and everyone can all be happy :D

//Andreas

That's actually a fantastic idea.....I kinda get the feeling the site would be avoided like the plague though. :shrug:

[nemrod]

That's. I missed the 's at the end. Unlike most others who miss a letter out of every word, words out of every sentence and have no intention of fixing./.../ :

Nemrod, English only please.

This is an AMD news thread, keep it on topic.

Perhaps, my english is to bad, but I believe the first sentence is for me and the second for everybody... :shrug: