Freezone peltier

[mondocool]

Hello there... I am new anyways, I was looking into this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16835227002
Would this cool a qx6700 @ 4.0-4.1 ghz sufficiently on their website they said... "Freezone is recommended for CPUs with total heat output of up to 175W. Higher loads can be accommodated but the result will be comparable to water cooling. The Eliminator is recommended for CPUs with a total heat output of up to 125W. The Eliminator is targeted for overclocking nearly any dual core CPU while the Freezone is more than capable of cooling the new quad core Kentsfield from Intel." This person seemed to have it and had 32C on load with this cooler @ 3.5 ghz, http://www.techspot.com/vb/all/windows/t-75870-Q6700-stress-test.html
Your thoughts?
Also would it be efficient if it was on top of the case or would it have to work against gravity?

[L33T]

Hello there... I am new anyways, I was looking into this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16835227002
Would this cool a qx6700 @ 4.0-4.1 ghz sufficiently on their website they said... "Freezone is recommended for CPUs with total heat output of up to 175W. Higher loads can be accommodated but the result will be comparable to water cooling. The Eliminator is recommended for CPUs with a total heat output of up to 125W. The Eliminator is targeted for overclocking nearly any dual core CPU while the Freezone is more than capable of cooling the new quad core Kentsfield from Intel." This person seemed to have it and had 32C on load with this cooler @ 3.5 ghz, http://www.techspot.com/vb/all/windows/t-75870-Q6700-stress-test.html
Your thoughts?

:welcome:

The qx6700 at stock is 130W at stock settings; concordantly, the "Eliminator" will be insufficient for your processor [1]. This would lead to rapid thermal runaway. The "Freezone" may be sufficient at stock certainly but it would be uncertain whether or not an excellent overclock such as 4.0-4.1 GHz. The case of 32*C seems quite reproducible, but note that user's OC versus that which you strive to achieve. 4.0-4.1 may or may not be even achievable I would say. Consider their understatement: "Higher loads can be accommodated but the result will be comparable to water cooling."

If the result is comparable to water cooling, why not simply do just water cooling? It'll be cheaper (immediate costs and electrical costs).

That the water block is sold uninsulated leads one to deduce that the temperature will be generally be above the dew point. In the case of the qx6700, it will most certainly be that case.

I recommend a different solution, since $300+ is a lot of money for a non-modifiable system.


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1. http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL9UL

[mondocool]

Alot of people are talking about electricity. How much electricity does this consume more than a phase changer?

[Ashraf]

I have that cooler, but mine is modded. At stock speed, the load temp should be around 12*C. At 3.7GHz overclocked, the load temp should be around 30~40*C.

And for electricity, I have no idea. I never pay attention to it. I just don't pay for electricity bill. :p:

[serialk11r]

[sigh]
This thread pops up too often...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=141134

[mondocool]

Ok, I see whats going on but 2 of those freezones sure kicked some ass... The thermalright ultra 120 extreme, seems like a good buy... but I want to be a bit more xtreme that then that. What would a good water cooling kit under 500 be? Specs in sig... The thing I don't want to do is get rid of air bubbles seems liek it takes a while and testing for leaks it seems a bit of a hasasle. I don't want water coolng on my gpu, maybe for mosfets, north bridge, south bridge, cpu... Yeah.

Would a thermalright ultra 120 extreme let me reach 4.0-4.1 ghz?

[Anemone]

A single Freezone will barely handle a dual core @ 3.73/1.45v. You'd probably be lucky if it handled a quad core at much over stock. I think some makers using them with quads are listing 3.2's or something along that line.

Better off with water, unless of course you are going to throw a couple of them at your cpu :) like Ash :)

$.02

[serialk11r]

Ok, I see whats going on but 2 of those freezones sure kicked some ass... The thermalright ultra 120 extreme, seems like a good buy... but I want to be a bit more xtreme that then that. What would a good water cooling kit under 500 be? Specs in sig... The thing I don't want to do is get rid of air bubbles seems liek it takes a while and testing for leaks it seems a bit of a hasasle. I don't want water coolng on my gpu, maybe for mosfets, north bridge, south bridge, cpu... Yeah.

Would a thermalright ultra 120 extreme let me reach 4.0-4.1 ghz?

The Coolit Freezone/eliminators ARE A WATERCOOLING SYSTEM EXCEPT CRAPPIER. They have pelts cooling the water instead of a radiator and they do eat up electricity...a compressor based cooler is going to be much much much much more efficient.

[Xeon th MG Pony]

just becuase you don't pay for power is a reason to disgustingly waste it? No wonder! why prices are so high!! and there are constant shortages :(

Poor ethic I think. We all share this world, and it is all our duty to reduce un-neccisary waste as much as one possibly an, wether or not you pay for it, as you do, one way or the other you pay for it.

[L33T]

just becuase you don't pay for power is a reason to disgustingly waste it? No wonder! why prices are so high!! and there are constant shortages :(

Poor ethic I think. We all share this world, and it is all our duty to reduce un-neccisary waste as much as one possibly an, wether or not you pay for it, as you do, one way or the other you pay for it.


That really isn't the reason why prices are so high. I don't think you should jump to such unfair accusations.

[littleowl]

for a freezone to do any good it would have to be modded with a much bigger Tec. The amount of cooling you will get is not worth the trouble and the amount of electric that is uses is just a wast. For a qx6700 you should look more at phase change and yes it will more and likely be about the same in electric cost. IMHO The freezone is junk.

[AzraelDarkangel]

CoolIT Freezone - The cpu cooler everyone loves to hate! Lol, I notice everyone loves to diss on it, even with all the wonderful reviews. Really, I suspect this is like the TEC aircoolers, really good up to a point. I think I've seen one review on here where someone managed to overload it with heat and, according to some of the amateur reviews, it looks lt might have some QC issues. It looks pretty good for cooler cpu's and moderate overclocking but can probably be overloaded with really heavy overclocking and/or hotter cpu's. Most people agree that's it's not a good value and prone to problems compared to regular watercooling.

[erwinz]

I have experience tec coolers.. and one of my mate have the same product.. as of our experience.. its not good.. and you will be wasting your money.. :)

you can use it if you have air conditioning in your room so lowering the ambient a bit more.. :)

better buy a decent water cooling setup.. :)

..just my 2 cents ;)

[Anemone]

At max it eats up about 56w plus pump and fan, which is noticeable, but not tons. But decent water cooling uses less power, works better on a wider temp range and probably will leave you happier longer. I've maxed it out on a dual core oc'd to 3.73, and honestly you "can" do that kind of OC on air. Now drop it down to 3.48 and you get temps that are 10-15c over ambient, which is "ok" but not stunning. It does fit in a very small amount of space.

I have one, and use it, and I'm moving to water. I'm not in a rush because it does work, but I know when I move to quad cores, that it won't be good enough. If you can manage the space (choose a good case!) and don't mind tinkering just a tiny bit more, you'll be happier either going as far as doing water, or backing off to high end air, which will do almost as good or better depending on case ventilation and fans chosen.

$.02

[Holst]

At max it eats up about 56w plus pump and fan, which is noticeable, but not tons. But decent water cooling uses less power, works better on a wider temp range and probably will leave you happier longer. I've maxed it out on a dual core oc'd to 3.73, and honestly you "can" do that kind of OC on air. Now drop it down to 3.48 and you get temps that are 10-15c over ambient, which is "ok" but not stunning. It does fit in a very small amount of space.

I have one, and use it, and I'm moving to water. I'm not in a rush because it does work, but I know when I move to quad cores, that it won't be good enough. If you can manage the space (choose a good case!) and don't mind tinkering just a tiny bit more, you'll be happier either going as far as doing water, or backing off to high end air, which will do almost as good or better depending on case ventilation and fans chosen.

$.02


Thanks for the honest oppinion.
What you have posted is pretty much what I think as well, but its good to hear it from someone who has the unit.

I was having a little think about how to make the freezone work better.

Most obvious way is to replace the fan with something much bigger, 120mm delta would be my choice (plus some headphones to block noise)

Second would be to increase the voltage to the peltiers!

has anybody ever taken a freezone to bits to see whats inside and how its wired up?

If you can boost the voltage to the pelts you can increase capacity, and as long as you can keep the hot sides cool (delta fan) then you should be able to get much better temps with higher wattage CPUs.

As for people talking about power usage, compared to other TEC solutions the freezone is positively enviromentally friendly as its very low wattage 56watts according to there website).

[Anemone]

I'm using a 120x38 Panaflo med fan on it now. So yes am there and that's the performance I'm getting.

If you go quad core, you will need two of these things in some mod'ed config to keep up, imo.

$.02

[Ace-a-Rue]

not a bad review for this TEC with an E6600.


...ambient temperature of 22 degrees C by the way. Since we had so much leverage we decided (as explained above) to go on maximum attack with the processor. We crammed 1.65 volts into the CPU and started rising the FSB until we could not post anymore. We achieved 3825 MHZ in merely 5 minutes.

...at ~3.8 GHz overclocked we see an idle temperature of roughly 30 degrees C and ~47 degrees C under full load.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/processor/438/9/

[Anemone]

Sure dual cores can run @ 3.7-3.8. You won't be doing that with a quad however.

[Ace-a-Rue]

are you telling me that i won't match my current 3.6Ghz on my Q6600 which is on air, which idles at 39C?

[Anemone]

Match it, maybe, but only maybe. And the temps with the TR ultra are quite likely to be better at load, and slightly worse at idle.

:)

[Ace-a-Rue]

i don't know about at load...full load for this quad with the TR ultra xtreme is over 62c...it can't handle all four cores at 100%...i have to scale it back to 435 FSB to hold 100% for 4 cores (currently at 450 FSB)...i would bet that the "Freezone" would allow all four cores to be at 100% at 450 FSB.

you wanna take me on!:D...you pay for the unit if i can hold all four cores at 100% at 450 FSB for 12 hours!..hehehe...OK!..send me $275.:p: ...i will pay for the shipping...LOL:D

[Anemone]

hehe

If you want to buy one, don't let me hold you back :)

[Ace-a-Rue]

...lol