Work log Project TJ07

[ladderman]

I thought is was about time to start my work log.

This is my first attempt at watercooling, so please feel free to voice any concerns or opinions you have about how my build progresses.

My plan is to have two loops, one for the GPUs, and the other for the CPU and NB. I’m unsure whether to include to also include the SB with the CPU as well.

One of the reasons I was against adding the SB was because of what I’ve read about flow restriction.

I plan the watercool the OCZ Flex later, and I thought I might include the SB with that loop.

The reason I plan to watercool the ram later is because I want to get the first two loops running, also I need to find away to incorporate a third loop. I will have to use ¼ ID tubing on the Flex ram because of the size of the barbs.


Maybe I should have bought a Mountain Mods case instead of the TJ07 ha ha.

Loop one will go: RES > D5 > PA120.3 > GPU > GPU > RES

Loop two will go: RES > D5 > B I P > CPU > NB > RES

I plan to have the PA120.3 and the two D5 pumps down in the base with the PSU.

The Black Ice Pro II mounted up were the top case fans are.



System parts

Case Silverstone TJ07B-W
CPU Intel E6600
Mobo EVGA 680i
GPU 2 x Asus EN8800 GTX
Ram 4 x 1gb 6400 OCZ Flex
PSU Enermax Galaxy 1000w
Sound Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer
HDD 150gb Raptor x
HDD 250gb Deskstar
MCubed T-Balancer bigNG 4-channel Fan Controller
Sunbeam Rheostat fancontroller
Fans Yate Loon 120mm blue led


Watercooling parts

CPU block D-TEK Fuzion
GPU blocks 2 x EKEK-FC8800 8800 GTX – Acetal
NB block EK-NB EVGA 680i Acetal
Pumps 2 x D5
Rads PA120.3, Black Ice Pro II
Res 2 x EK-Multioption RES 200mm
Tubing Tygon ½

[ladderman]

Thought I'd put everything together to make sure it all works ok.

[ladderman]

I thought I'd have a go at lapping my CPU, first time for this too.

I didn't go for a mirror finish, but it wasn’t far off one.

Then the next job was to work how to fit the Black Ice ProII up were the top case fans are.

I've already done a thread on this, so this is just a few pics

[ladderman]

My next job will be fitting some casters to the base of the case.

Silverstone don’t do casters so I had to get a set of Lian Li casters. The casters have a brake one set, so if I do have it on my desk it won’t roll off, ha ha

The reason I’m fitting them is to make it easier to move the case. Everyone who has this case and has watercooled it complains how heavy it is.

[ladderman]

I want to hide as much of the cable as possible so I had to drill a few holes in the motherboard back plate, and the base divider shelf

First few pics are of the Galaxy PSU, it's a bit of a beast

[ladderman]

Planed were I wanted the holes drilling.

I also drilled hole were all the blocks fit.

[ladderman]

While I was drilling the holes in the base divider I thought I might as well cut out the areas for the tubing to come up from the base

[ladderman]

Just thought I’d make sure the cables all fit through the holes.

The 8 pin +12v CPU just fits!

I still have to sleeve all the cable yet, I’m just going to use black

[Emerica]

All I can say is, WOW. That is one kick ass rig.

[ladderman]

I’ve raised the PA120.3 up because I want the fans to show fully through the mess.

I’ve also drilled three sets of hole so I can move the rad right or left of centre.

The reason for this is because I still need to work out the best way to get the two D5 pumps down there, and the rad might need to go to one side to make room.

[carholmes]

Everything looks amazing. I love how you mounted your rads, very original. Keep it up.

[ladderman]

My other res and NB block came from EK today. For some strange reason the top cap doesn’t have a threaded hole drilled in it.

You can see it next to the one I already have.

Do some reservoirs come like this or is it a mistake?

I have a set of taps and dyes, but I’ll have to get a ¼” tap because all of mine are metric.

The reason I want a threaded hole on the cap is because I plan to run a piece of tubing from a barb as a fill port.

[ladderman]

Everything looks amazing. I love how you mounted your rads, very original. Keep it up.


Thanks

They are ½" tap washers

[zgundam]

cool, looks like the rig will turn out amazing :yepp: oh, have you thought about replacing the mesh on the side panels (and the top exhaust vent for that matter) with something less restrictive?

While they look nice, the mesh panels that come with the case don't let much air through them.... I replaced side panel mesh with some cheap wire mesh and my idle temps dropped like 3C :cool:

[ladderman]

cool, looks like the rig will turn out amazing :yepp: oh, have you thought about replacing the mesh on the side panels (and the top exhaust vent for that matter) with something less restrictive?

While they look nice, the mesh panels that come with the case don't let much air through them.... I replaced side panel mesh with some cheap wire mesh and my idle temps dropped like 3C :cool:

Thanks for the kind remarks.

I'll be leaving the mess as it is for now. I might change it latter if I feel the need to

[ranker]

Damn. I love that attention to detail. I'm just afraid of using the dremel, drill, hole cutter on my cube or else I'd go nuts like you did with your custom work.

My hat's off. :clap:

[ladderman]

Damn. I love that attention to detail. I'm just afraid of using the dremel, drill, hole cutter on my cube or else I'd go nuts like you did with your custom work.

My hat's off. :clap:

You just need to plan out what you want to do and then take your time doing it and you'll be ok:up:

[ranker]

You just need to plan out what you want to do and then take your time doing it and you'll be ok:up:

Time...wish I had some. The few moments I get for myself these days, I spend on these forums or catching up on an NBA game. Law School, congressional internship, being mentored to take over my families various import export businesses, the lady... I'm lucky to get 2-3 hours to tinker with the computer a week.

I've been buying more computer parts and water cooling parts just to keep myself mentally sane by convincing myself that I'll eventually get around to it.

Annnnnnyhow, enough of my moaning and back to graphs, flow charts, and ledgers.

Keep up the great work. I look forward to seeing more pics/write ups that include your work bench, actual cuts, etc. It's more exciting than seeing a finished product as you get to see the attention to detail each step of the way that most would take for granted.

[burton]

where did you get the rubber things where the psu comes through

[ladderman]

Time...wish I had some. The few moments I get for myself these days, I spend on these forums or catching up on an NBA game. Law School, congressional internship, being mentored to take over my families various import export businesses, the lady... I'm lucky to get 2-3 hours to tinker with the computer a week.

I've been buying more computer parts and water cooling parts just to keep myself mentally sane by convincing myself that I'll eventually get around to it.

Annnnnnyhow, enough of my moaning and back to graphs, flow charts, and ledgers.

Keep up the great work. I look forward to seeing more pics/write ups that include your work bench, actual cuts, etc. It's more exciting than seeing a finished product as you get to see the attention to detail each step of the way that most would take for granted.

You are certainly right about how much time you have.

I have been planning this for weeks now, it just seems to take an age.

I can't think how many times I've put things together and taken them apart again just to make sure the mods workout ok.

I'm in the middle of putting all the blocks on to the board so I can see if the tubing will run the way I want without any kinks. Also I need to see how the D5 pumps will live in the base with the PSU and Rad.

I keep thinking I should of gone for DDC pumps to save on space. What put me off them was what I've read in threads about them burning out.

I'll post pics of the test loop setup so people can give me their views.

I need advice on wether I should WC the SB in the same loop as the CPU and NB, or add it latter with the OCZ flex on a thrid loop using ¼" id tubing.

If it's add it to the CPU and NB would it cause too much flow resriction?

I've got a little Evercool chipset fan for the SB for now

[ladderman]

where did you get the rubber things where the psu comes through

Are you talking about the holes on the motherboard tray?

If you are. it is just some rubber trim cut to the length I need for each hole.

you can buy it from any web site that does modding for PCs

[Grinch]

subscribed....

[burton]

sweet thanks for the info what size drill did you use to make the holes i am having a hard time finding a 5/8 drill bit that doesnt cost 40 bucks

[ladderman]

To day I wanted to put my loops together to see if everything would go the way I had planned.

This is only a test run because I need to clean all the watercooling parts meticulously before I put do the proper build.

Everything will be cleaned then sealed until it goes in to the loops

The cleaning of all the parts will be a major problem for me because I use to suffer with really bad OCD. Anyone who has ever suffered from this will know what I’m talking about. I’ve spent more time worrying about the cleaning than any other thing on this build.

First job was to make the brackets that would hold the reservoirs in place.

I used some light alloy that was easy to bend in to shape.

[ladderman]

I had to drill and tap two sets of hole in each side of the brackets because the first set of holes had the res too far back

[ladderman]

This is the loops done. Let me know what you think of the way I have ran them.

Like I said earlier this is only a test run.

Loop one is: RES > PUMP > PA120.3 > GPU > GPU > RES

Loop two is: RES > PUMP > BLACK ICE PRO > CPU > NB >RES

[Vice]

Look very clean, great job.

[ladderman]

I had a right carryon trying to do the tubing in the base with the two D5 pumps.

At one point I thought the pumps had me beat. DDC pump would have been a lot easier.

Tygon tubing sticks like mad to each other and I lost my rag a few times trying to sort it out down there.

I had 12 foot of tubing and used the whole lot. The only place I may need to change is between the CPU and NB because I think the bend is too tight

That brass wheel on the NB looks like it may cause me problems when I come to fit the clamp

[BigRollTide1]

Very nice work...I wish I had gotton some metal for the res mounts and bent it myself. Mine would look a lot better. The rubber edging you put around the power supply holes looks great too. I almost did that, but I got lazy near the end. I'd would have had to cut a larger hole, and I didn't want to dismount my motherboard...again.

[ladderman]

Very nice work...I wish I had gotton some metal for the res mounts and bent it myself. Mine would look a lot better. The rubber edging you put around the power supply holes looks great too. I almost did that, but I got lazy near the end. I'd would have had to cut a larger hole, and I didn't want to dismount my motherboard...again.


Some of the job have been quite time consuming. I had to keep checking hole sizes and trying the cables to see if they would fit through the holes ok.

[quiet]

Really nice job!

I think if you swap the tubes on the NB it would give you a better bend radius, if you are concerned about it that much. (Highest CPU barb to the lowest NB barb). The NB hold down definately looks like it will get in the way of clamping, i'm using the Danger Den 680i block because the barbs have much better locations. Do you plan on splitting one of those loops and cooling that ram or is it just for looks?

[ladderman]

Really nice job!

I think if you swap the tubes on the NB it would give you a better bend radius, if you are concerned about it that much. (Highest CPU barb to the lowest NB barb). The NB hold down definately looks like it will get in the way of clamping, i'm using the Danger Den 680i block because the barbs have much better locations. Do you plan on splitting one of those loops and cooling that ram or is it just for looks?

I plan to try and do a third loop just for the ram if I can find away to do one.

I may try to mount a small rad on the back case fans and use ¼ ID tubing. I would need to find some were to put a res and small pump.

I will try this after I have ran the two loops for a while.
I’ve got a OCZ ram cooler but the brackets are too short because of the fins on the ram. I might try to make a new set of longer brackets for it

I may try to reduce the size of that wheel on the NB. It's only made from brass

[Aldy402]

very nice detailed cuts, great work , love the res mounts

why didnt you sleeve and solder the fans on the bottom rad?

[Senater_Cache]

I cant really tell very well how you have the loops ordered because I cant see th epumps in the pics.
Here is how I would do it.

CPU Loop:
D5>MCR220>Fuzio>NB bottom barb>res (from the NB upper barb)

GPU Loop:
D5>PA>lower GPU>upper GPU>res

just a thought. The bend from Fuzion into the lower barb on the NB block will be much better.

Also, have you thought about mounting the pumps against the front bezel down there? or on some bracket? I mean mount them so that the inlets are facing up and the outlets are shooting towards the back of the case. I think this may you may be able to mount the pumps side by side along the width of the case front. Also the bends on the pump inlet tubing will be much less and the outlet bend will be minimal.

[hoax]

wow ladderman, you have some serious building skills man.. I love to watch the solutions you are coming up with, the res brackets turned out quite amazing, so did the stands for the PA... everything just kicks ass in pretty much every aspect :D :fact:

keep up the great work and thanks a lot for sharing the experience with us :toast:



edit: what if you rotated the fusion 180 degrees? might help if you go from fusion outlet to lower mcw30? sorry if it makes no sense :)

[stormshadow]

it's pretty obvious but i'll go ahead and say it...

you need more tubing. lol :P

fantastic work til now. great components and fabrication.
can't wait to see everything together (no ram w/c'ing?)

i vote 3rd loop for s/b and ram lol

[ColonelCain]

Wow! This looks amazing! I wouldn't worry about it much, but it looks as if the tubes could get routed a little better IMHO. But like I said, I wouldn't worry about it much, besides, theres two loops in there...

[rbsmontemor]

Thats my dream! Awesome parts!

Rbs.

[Patriote]

Wow! Nice job there. Even more. Subscribed...!

[Grinch]

very nice job!

[DavidP]

So I take it you decided not to WC the SB ?? I would change the NB block out with the MCW30 it's easier to work with than the EK block. That wheel is a pain.

[ladderman]

very nice detailed cuts, great work , love the res mounts

why didnt you sleeve and solder the fans on the bottom rad?

This was just a test run, it will be all taken apart today as I need to clean all to watercool parts.

I still have to sleeve all the fan cables and the cables that run to the graphic cards

Thanks for your kind remarks:up:

[ladderman]

wow ladderman, you have some serious building skills man.. I love to watch the solutions you are coming up with, the res brackets turned out quite amazing, so did the stands for the PA... everything just kicks ass in pretty much every aspect :D :fact:

keep up the great work and thanks a lot for sharing the experience with us :toast:



edit: what if you rotated the fusion 180 degrees? might help if you go from fusion outlet to lower mcw30? sorry if it makes no sense :)

I used all 12 feet of tubing I had yesterday. I would of cut a new peice to go from the outlet on the fusion to the bottom barb on the nb block.

I'm going to order a few extra feet of tygon to day. I may also try to tidy up some of the lengths of tuibing to look too long.

Thanks for your kind remarks:up:

[ladderman]

Wow! This looks amazing! I wouldn't worry about it much, but it looks as if the tubes could get routed a little better IMHO. But like I said, I wouldn't worry about it much, besides, theres two loops in there...


This is just a test run, I'll be tidying it up when I put it all back together.

Thanks for your kind remarks:up:

[ladderman]

So I take it you decided not to WC the SB ?? I would change the NB block out with the MCW30 it's easier to work with than the EK block. That wheel is a pain.


The wheel on the EK nb block is only made of brass so I will make it smaller. Or I may even try to change the whole lot so they all look the same.

I inted to wc the OCZ flex later on a third loop using ¼" id tubing if I can work out were I could put a small rad, pump and res. If I can I may add the sb with that loop. I've cut holes in the mobo tray so I can remove or add blocks without having to take out the mobo.

[jinsean]

What's the name of the tool you used to drill the hole into your rad and the res mount brackets? The T looking thing. What's it for? I'm guessing from the pictures that it's to make sure you only drill in a certain depth?

Thanks.

[ladderman]

I cant really tell very well how you have the loops ordered because I cant see th epumps in the pics.
Here is how I would do it.

CPU Loop:
D5>MCR220>Fuzio>NB bottom barb>res (from the NB upper barb)

GPU Loop:
D5>PA>lower GPU>upper GPU>res

just a thought. The bend from Fuzion into the lower barb on the NB block will be much better.

Also, have you thought about mounting the pumps against the front bezel down there? or on some bracket? I mean mount them so that the inlets are facing up and the outlets are shooting towards the back of the case. I think this may you may be able to mount the pumps side by side along the width of the case front. Also the bends on the pump inlet tubing will be much less and the outlet bend will be minimal.

My loops do go the way you have just discribed. All I have to do is change the tubing to goes from the fusion oulet to the bottom barb on the EK nb.

I played around trying loads of differant ways to mount the pumps.

The way you say about having them with the inlets facing up would mean that you would not able to turn the power flow dile at the back of the pump because it would be covered by the case floor.

[ladderman]

I'd just like to say a BIG THANKYOU to everyone for their input so far.

This is my first WC build and I really appreciate the help :up:

[ladderman]

My loops do go the way you have just discribed. All I have to do is change the tubing to goes from the fusion oulet to the bottom barb on the EK nb.

I played around trying loads of differant ways to mount the pumps.

The way you say about having them with the inlets facing up would mean that you would not able to turn the power flow dile at the back of the pump because it would be covered by the case floor.

What's the name of the tool you used to drill the hole into your rad and the res mount brackets? The T looking thing. What's it for? I'm guessing from the pictures that it's to make sure you only drill in a certain depth?

Thanks.

Its call a tap.

You have to drill a hole first before you tap the tread for the bolt you use.

If you are tapping a 4mm thread you need to drill a hole 3.5mm first.

No it would go all the way through the rad if you kept going, you most work out how deep you need to go then stop

[jinsean]

Its call a tap.

You have to drill a hole first before you tap the tread for the bolt you use.

If you are tapping a 4mm thread you need to drill a hole 3.5mm first.

No it would go all the way through the rad if you kept going, you most work out how deep you need to go then stop

Hmmm, stupid question: do I have to tread the hole? Or it's just too hard to brute force the bolt in?

[serialk11r]

Hmmm, stupid question: do I have to tread the hole? I don't know how thick the metal is on the rad, but it seems that for like 1-2mm thickness I could probably get by without treading... please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not an expert on tools.:rolleyes:

You can use self tapping screws...
Or buy a tap, a tap wrench (little thing that holds the tap and has a handle), insert the tap into the hole, and start twisting. The metal is very thin, just go a little bit in and you're good.

[ladderman]

Hmmm, stupid question: do I have to tread the hole? I don't know how thick the metal is on the rad, but it seems that for like 1-2mm thickness I could probably get by without treading... please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not an expert on tools.:rolleyes:


You don't have to thread the holes like I did. All you need to do is drll a hole if there is not one there then use self tapping screws and make sure you don't get too close to the core!

[septim]

ladderman i must say are you ready to cook that spagetti tubing mess or what.

hehe, very nice self made brackets for that top rad and res.
hope to see the completed picture soon. looks like the only thing left is cleaning as you said and shortening. then its fill her up and power on.

[sick_g4m3r]

this is excellent!!!!!!!!!! amazing job!! just some more inspiration for my build!!!!

for those threads on the rad and case, how is the metal on the PA thick enough to hold it stable enough with screws? wouldnt each screw wobble against the thinness of the metal, or is it thick enough to screw in stable and tight?

And on the average radiator, how far would the side be from the core would you guess?

[ladderman]

Things have been slow going for the past few days. There never seems to be enough hours in the day.

Anyway to bring you up to date I’ve sleeved all the fan cables, I also sleeved the cable on the Evercool SB block, the Soft power LED, and most of the cables on the PSU.

[ladderman]

Next job on my list was to reduce the size of this brass wheel nut on the EK NB block. As you can see there is no room left to between the tubing and this nut to get a clamp on.

All I did was tighten it on to a bolt then use a drill to spin it while I used a file to reduce it down to the size I needed, it did the job ok.

[ladderman]

Tuesday was a very long day! I started cleaning all the watercooling parts at 9am and didn’t get finished until 7pm. I had to flush the rads a good few times and run them on a small loop for most of the day before I was satisfied they were clean enough. I then flushed them a good few times with de-ionised water.

I stripped and cleaned all the copper parts of the blocks with vinegar. The barbs, pumps, tubing and reservoirs were all cleaned with de-ionised water. Then everything was put in to sealed bags ready for use.

[ladderman]

As I said Tuesday was a long day, because after I finished cleaning all the parts at 7pm I started building the loops and at 3.30am finished leak testing and bleeding them, and thank god there weren’t any leaks.

I’m still running a long leak test, it’s been running all day and everything is fine. I’ll let it run until tomorrow then I’ll add all the other components.

I’m unsure whether to have one loop green and the other blue, or just have them both green. What do you think?

Also should I use Coolsleeve on the rest of the tubing?

[ladderman]

this is excellent!!!!!!!!!! amazing job!! just some more inspiration for my build!!!!

for those threads on the rad and case, how is the metal on the PA thick enough to hold it stable enough with screws? wouldnt each screw wobble against the thinness of the metal, or is it thick enough to screw in stable and tight?

And on the average radiator, how far would the side be from the core would you guess?

The metal on the rad is ok to thread for a bolt and holds the rad securely. The thread holes do not go anyware near the core, they are to the outside of them.

[I34z1k]

VERY nice stuff! :D

[lasse.j5]

It's looking really good! I love that case :)

[pie_uk]

good job man, very proffesional

[RockfordFosgate]

Yeah very clean job perfect :)

[I34z1k]

VERY nice stuff! :D

[Zeus]

Very nice projects but just a few things though:

-The reservoirs don't seem to line up vertically and are not on level with each other.

-The way the tubing comes of the lower videocardblock is a bit awkward, i'd cut the rectangular hole in the divider plate a bit larger and just let the tubing come of the dowside of the block.

-Ditch the coolsleeves, they're horrible. :p:

Otherwise, one awesome looking rig. :up:

[ladderman]

Very nice projects but just a few things though:

-The reservoirs don't seem to line up vertically and are not on level with each other.

-The way the tubing comes of the lower videocardblock is a bit awkward, i'd cut the rectangular hole in the divider plate a bit larger and just let the tubing come of the dowside of the block.

-Ditch the coolsleeves, they're horrible. :p:

Otherwise, one awesome looking rig. :up:


The inlet pipes on the reservoirs face towards each other because of the way the tubing runs back to the reservoirs on each loop. So one res has to be at a different height than the other.

There is no room for the tubing to come from the underside of the gpu because of the PA rad and the galaxy psu.

I have only tried to use coolsleeve were it’s needed. I know a lot of people don’t like it but it does have a purpose.

[ladderman]

Very nice projects but just a few things though:

-The reservoirs don't seem to line up vertically and are not on level with each other.

-The way the tubing comes of the lower videocardblock is a bit awkward, i'd cut the rectangular hole in the divider plate a bit larger and just let the tubing come of the dowside of the block.

-Ditch the coolsleeves, they're horrible. :p:

Otherwise, one awesome looking rig. :up:

VERY nice stuff! :D

good job man, very proffesional

It's looking really good! I love that case :)


Thanks for all the positive remarks:up:

[Zeus]

The inlet pipes on the reservoirs face towards each other because of the way the tubing runs back to the reservoirs on each loop. So one res has to be at a different height than the other.

Can't you just turn the res in front so that the barbs aren't facing toward each other?
Personally i think it looks better when they're on level with each other.

There is no room for the tubing to come from the underside of the gpu because of the PA rad and the galaxy psu.

That's a shame, it's hard to determine from a picture how much space is left to route the tubing.

I have only tried to use coolsleeve were it’s needed. I know a lot of people don’t like it but it does have a purpose.

Again a matter of personal preferences, i think it looks cheap.

[kinghong1970]

Are you talking about the holes on the motherboard tray?

If you are. it is just some rubber trim cut to the length I need for each hole.

you can buy it from any web site that does modding for PCs

sorry to bug you... cant seem to find a place for the rubber trims...

can you suggest a good place to get em?

thanks!

[mcflurry4321]

sorry to bug you... cant seem to find a place for the rubber trims...

can you suggest a good place to get em?

thanks!

http://www.petrastechshop.com/neruedtrmo.html

Only place I ever shop :)

[Alastor2262]

sorry to bug you... cant seem to find a place for the rubber trims...

can you suggest a good place to get em?

thanks!

http://www.petrastechshop.com/cawimo.html

[ladderman]

sorry to bug you... cant seem to find a place for the rubber trims...

can you suggest a good place to get em?

thanks!

If you live in the UK you can get it at:

http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_2046.html

[Jedda]

Tuesday was a very long day! I started cleaning all the watercooling parts at 9am and didn’t get finished until 7pm. I had to flush the rads a good few times and run them on a small loop for most of the day before I was satisfied they were clean enough. I then flushed them a good few times with de-ionised water.

I stripped and cleaned all the copper parts of the blocks with vinegar. The barbs, pumps, tubing and reservoirs were all cleaned with de-ionised water. Then everything was put in to sealed bags ready for use.

That's a pity. D-Tek tell you not to do that to the Fuzion.
They say it'll bugger up their layer of some kind of corrosion protection.

The box is coming along nicely though. You're being very thorough.:up:

[SharkerSk]

Loooooool :rofl:

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/9435/attachmentaaf15d2qo4.jpg

Cleaning wb in scullery machine :eek:
:up:

[ladderman]

That's a pity. D-Tek tell you not to do that to the Fuzion.
They say it'll bugger up their layer of some kind of corrosion protection.

The box is coming along nicely though. You're being very thorough.:up:

I didn’t know that D-tek advice you not to take the Fusion apart to clean it.

I’m not overly concerned because the only metal in the loops is copper, so there should not be any galvanic corrosion.

Thanks for letting me know :up:

[ladderman]

Loooooool :rofl:

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/9435/attachmentaaf15d2qo4.jpg

Cleaning wb in scullery machine :eek:
:up:

Sorry but I think you are a little confused. The blocks never went near a “scullery machine” as you put it.:confused:

I cleaned the blocks in a glass bowl using de-ionised water; they were only put on the stainless steel drainer to dry. I used a hairdryer to get rid of all the moisture that was left on them before they were put back together. I then put them in to sealed bags until they were needed.

[septim]

pics pics pics...
waiting for the finished item...

a day really is too short for everything... but at least you got somethings done with...

[IanY]

Its just a personal opinion, but I think the system looks fabulous without any green or blue. I would head and shoulders prefer no colours in the tubes.

[Envydia007]

Sorry but I think you are a little confused. The blocks never went near a “scullery machine” as you put it.:confused:

I cleaned the blocks in a glass bowl using de-ionised water; they were only put on the stainless steel drainer to dry. I used a hairdryer to get rid of all the moisture that was left on them before they were put back together. I then put them in to sealed bags until they were needed.

Now thats just too much, :shocked:

[septim]

not really abe, putting said copper blocks inside sealed container helps prevents oxidation (some color change for copper surface) and dust accumulation too...

[ladderman]

Thought I’d post a good few photos of what I’ve got done today.

But I most say the cable management and lighting is no were near finished yet. Also I still have to work out the best place for my HDDs yet.

These photos are just to show what it’s looking, and to see what you think.

I’m a pretty happy guy the way it’s turning out.

I filled both loops with Feser View green, but I’m not sure if I like it. Don’t know whether I should of gone for blue instead.

I still need to buy some more UV tubes so I’ll see what it looks like after that.

I had a play around with the tubing and I’ve managed to get both reservoirs level, cos I wasn’t happy that one was higher than the other.

[ladderman]

The LEDS on the sunbeam are mega bright. I think I might mod one of the TJ07 cover plates to use as the front of the sunbeam because I don’t like the white writing on it. I think I may change the knobs for a set of chromes one too.

[Colossous]

Its looking great Ladderman, personally i like the green loops !! :up:

[Solarfall]

ladderman all i can say is WOW thats pure wc porn right there.

[BNDMOD]

Nice Work!!!! pretty good!!! Congract!!!

[Darkatom]

What size tubing and barbs are you using ?

[ladderman]

Its looking great Ladderman, personally i like the green loops !! :up:

ladderman all i can say is WOW thats pure wc porn right there.

Nice Work!!!! pretty good!!! Congract!!!

Thanks guys:up:

[ladderman]

What size tubing and barbs are you using ?

Everything is ½"

[Darkatom]

Everything is ½"

Do you notice a build up of water around the barbs, say the Fuzion ones for example. From a past experience of mine the 1/2in tubing with 1/2in barbs wouldnt create a strong seal like you would find when using 7/16in tubing instead. It would seem like there would be potential leaks in those spots.

[ladderman]

Do you notice a build up of water around the barbs, say the Fuzion ones for example. From a past experience of mine the 1/2in tubing with 1/2in barbs wouldnt create a strong seal like you would find when using 7/16in tubing instead. It would seem like there would be potential leaks in those spots.


The Jubilee hose clips make a really good seal, and I’ve not had any problem with leaks so far.

[DavidP]

I forgot who here did it in there system, but it would be sweet to use different colors for your loops.

[louie101086]

wow i am sold i want a silverstone case now

[ranker]

I thought Massaville's was the best. However, I do believe you just took his crown.

Best TJ07 build I've seen.

[Patriote]

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: thats beautiful man! Almost give me the feeling to buy one of those TJ07!

[nealh]

Ladderman's work work is awesome:up: ...your work is nearly pushed me over to get this case

add some wheels and do some modding...doubt my work will even be close to your quality

wished you lived in FL...I would pay for your skills:D

[Jedda]

How many drives are you fitting in?
It's certainly looking good. Your attention to detail is paying off.
I find room for drives one of the big issues after fitting the rads. Needing space for two arrays it has been for me.

[ladderman]

wow i am sold i want a silverstone case now

I thought Massaville's was the best. However, I do believe you just took his crown.

Best TJ07 build I've seen.

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: thats beautiful man! Almost give me the feeling to buy one of those TJ07!

Ladderman's work work is awesome:up: ...your work is nearly pushed me over to get this case

add some wheels and do some modding...doubt my work will even be close to your quality

wished you lived in FL...I would pay for your skills:D

This was my first attempt at watercooling and Xtremesystems gave me the inspiration to start this build.

I'd just like to say I really big thanks to everyone for the great remarks:up:

[ladderman]

How many drives are you fitting in?
It's certainly looking good. Your attention to detail is paying off.
I find room for drives one of the big issues after fitting the rads. Needing space for two arrays it has been for me.


I'm fitting two HDDs. I need to move the res's a little further forward so I can use two 5¾ bays. But I'm going on holiday to Spain for a week so I'll be doing that when I get back.

I also need to finish off the uv lighting too.

[step]

I find room for drives one of the big issues after fitting the rads. Needing space for two arrays it has been for me.What if one were able to make a longer metal bracket that extends the reservoirs closer to the motherboard? Could basically utilize all the all the bays (if new holes a drilled too).

*fixed*

[yeags777]

Ladderman or anybody else, can you tell me who manufactures that bottom bay device? I'm going to need a temp gauge and I really like that one.

great job Ladderman

[ranker]

Ladderman or anybody else, can you tell me who manufactures that bottom bay device? I'm going to need a temp gauge and I really like that one.

great job Ladderman

Scythe Kama Bay: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=20901

[ladderman]

Ladderman or anybody else, can you tell me who manufactures that bottom bay device? I'm going to need a temp gauge and I really like that one.

great job Ladderman


It's a Scythe Kama-Meter Multi Function Controller. I you live in the UK you can get them here.

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=505970

[louie101086]

what did you use to make those small holes

[yonton228]

Wow, nice job on that system. If I had the cash and the tools needed to do such a mod I would. Great job mate.





-yonton228/timmy

[shapeless1]

Great mod, I had a fun time wasting minutes at school, reading this. :D

[ladderman]

what did you use to make those small holes

What small holes are you referring too?

[ladderman]

I haven’t done much work on my rig for the past three weeks because I’ve been away on holiday.

Anyway I’ve just finished moding one of the TJ07 HDD cages to fit inside the 5¾ drive bay area.

I couldn’t have the HDDs lying flat in this area because of reservoirs, so I ended up attaching them vertically to the side.

I only need to fit two HDDs and because of the restriction on space I had to get rid of the fan holder and one bay holder on the cage itself.

I drilled and tapped 4m threads on the bottom of the HDD cage so I could screw it to the side wall using the holes that are already their for holing 5¾ drives. I also glued some rubber washer to the holes to help dampen the noise.

[ladderman]

I squeezed some small silicone washers between the HDDs and the cage to try and help reduce any vibration noise.

The cage fitted in a lot easier than I thought and I'm pleased with the results.

I might try to soundproof it yet because I think the Raptor X makes too much noise when loading up.

[1badhabit]

Is the Silverstone Case about the same size as the Lian Li v2000?

[\Karting_freak]

lian li is a bit higher i belive, but still, nearly the same size ; )

[louie101086]

cool idea i like how you did that

[ladderman]

Is the Silverstone Case about the same size as the Lian Li v2000?

I'm not sure how much bigger the Lian-Li is compared to the TJ07, but I think the Lian-Li has a better layout for multi loops

[\Karting_freak]

ladderman
whose project is that one? any more pics/link?
tnks

[ladderman]

ladderman
whose project is that one? any more pics/link?
tnks

Sorry mate it's not anyones project. They are custom made by a company called Vadim.

Mind I think with all those rads they should have more than one pump
http://www.vadim.co.uk/Custom+PCs/Extreme+Gaming+PCs

[coolrmaster]

power supply looks a tad smallish for all that hardware in the lian li with no room for upgrade due to radiator conflict

[ranker]

Ladder, that's a really smart way of mounting your HD bay. When do you think you'll be finished with the entire project?

[Capt Proton]

power supply looks a tad smallish for all that hardware in the lian li with no room for upgrade due to radiator conflict

Lots of 600W PSUs about that size, as far as I can tell without actual measurements.

[ladderman]

Ladder, that's a really smart way of mounting your HD bay. When do you think you'll be finished with the entire project?

Hi ranker

I’m not really sure on how long it’s going to take. Most of the work is done now, but I still need to add a third loop for the ram. I’m thinking of putting a single 92mm rad on one of the back case fans and use a small pump & res with ¼” ID tubing.

When I do find the time to buy and fit this third loop I’ll post it on my work log:up:

[Pen3]

Lots of 600W PSUs about that size, as far as I can tell without actual measurements.

yeah the BFG 1000w looks about that size to. i got the silverstone 1000w in my v2100b and i dont think those rads would fit lol

power supply looks a tad smallish for all that hardware in the lian li with no room for upgrade due to radiator conflict

What upgrade could you do in the lower section? i though most hardware upgrades would take place in the upper section.