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TommyGunn
06-03-2007, 02:35 PM
All right, here is a long loop system that you don't see every day. I have mounted most of the WC system in a utility closet about 6 ft from my computer and ran PVC pipe from there to the computer.

The pump is controlled by a 12v relay that gets power from the PC so it runs and shuts off with the PC (That 12v line also powers the fans). The battery in the one picture is part of my home made backup system for the sump pump that is also in the utility closet. The water pump 120V power runs through that and the PC has a separate UPS. The PC UPS only runs about 5 minutes and the sump pump backup system runs much longer so when the PC shuts down the water cooling pump shuts off and the remaining reserve is available for the sump pump. (Had a storm yesterday and got a real life trial, everything worked great).

Current temps are 20C for the CPU and 35C for the GPU at normal use. The closet ambient probably runs around 18C (It's in a basement). I haven't taken the time to stress test the system, my actual goal was a slightly OC system that was quiet. I'm not really trying to push the envelope. :)

Oh, and the story behind the dual reservoirs is the I started with the EK and I setup and tested without the water blocks in the loop. I had so much flow that I pulled a continuous vortex of air in the reservoir so I went with the Swiftech but had the same issue so I put them both in series. As it turned out once I had the water blocks in place the flow went down enough that I could have used either one alone but since I already had them I just left them both in.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x70/TommyGunn_photos/Watercooling/100_1703.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x70/TommyGunn_photos/Watercooling/100_1702.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x70/TommyGunn_photos/Watercooling/100_1705.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x70/TommyGunn_photos/Watercooling/100_1706.jpg

ranker
06-03-2007, 02:49 PM
All right, here is a long loop system that you don't see every day. I have mounted most of the WC system in a utility closet about 6 ft from my computer and ran PVC pipe from there to the computer.

The pump is controlled by a 12v relay that gets power from the PC so it runs and shuts off with the PC (That 12v line also powers the fans). The battery in the one picture is part of my home made backup system for the sump pump that is also in the utility closet. The water pump 120V power runs through that and the PC has a separate UPS. The PC UPS only runs about 5 minutes and the sump pump backup system runs much longer so when the PC shuts down the water cooling pump shuts off and the remaining reserve is available for the sump pump. (Had a storm yesterday and got a real life trial, everything worked great).

Current temps are 20C for the CPU and 35C for the GPU at normal use. The closet ambient probably runs around 18C (It's in a basement). I haven't taken the time to stress test the system, my actual goal was a slightly OC system that was quiet. I'm not really trying to push the envelope. :)

Oh, and the story behind the dual reservoirs is the I started with the EK and I setup and tested without the water blocks in the loop. I had so much flow that I pulled a continuous vortex of air in the reservoir so I went with the Swiftech but had the same issue so I put them both in series. As it turned out once I had the water blocks in place the flow went down enough that I could have used either one alone but since I already had them I just left them both in.



Welcome to Xtremesystems as that is one Xtreme setup!

jabski
06-03-2007, 02:49 PM
I'v seen external rads before but ....... LOL
Very xtreme :cool:

ColonelCain
06-03-2007, 02:54 PM
Very nice! I'll bet that that is extremely quiet!

Osarion
06-03-2007, 03:08 PM
Nice!! How much liquid does that take anyway?

Jedda
06-03-2007, 03:14 PM
Ranker,
It'd be great if you cut the pix links out of your quotes.
OP's pix are interesting but we don't need them twice.
Thats quite a lot of hydraulic drag in a run that long with 1/2" tube. That Iwaki WMD20 must have some mumbo.

YugenM
06-03-2007, 03:14 PM
Nice work!

This is what XS should be, instead of being just about going overkill on components.

Origin_Unknown
06-03-2007, 03:16 PM
wow, nice :D

Ranker did you really need to quote that? expecially when it was the post just below?


Ranker,
It'd be great if you cut the pix links out of your quotes.
OP's pix are interesting but we don't need them twice.
Thats quite a lot of hydraulic drag in a run that long with 1/2" tube. That Iwaki WMD20 must have some mumbo.

Damnit, you got their before me :(

TommyGunn
06-03-2007, 06:28 PM
Thanks for the positive feedback.

To answer a couple of questions, yea it is very quiet. I've got two 120mm and one 80mm fan in the case with fan controls so that's all the noise it makes. I've got it tucked behind my desk and use external optical drives so you don't see or hear it.

And it holds somewhere between 1/3 - 1/2 gal of liquid :D

ranker
06-03-2007, 06:33 PM
wow, nice :D

Ranker did you really need to quote that? expecially when it was the post just below?




Damnit, you got their before me :(



Done and Done ;)

dinos22
06-05-2007, 08:15 PM
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x70/TommyGunn_photos/Watercooling/100_1706.jpg

looks nice actually

you should see what it's like behind my computer :D

MaxxxRacer
06-05-2007, 08:34 PM
First off, Welcome to XtremeSystems.

Secondly, that is a VERY cool idea.

In about 10 years when I buy a home (assuming housing costs stay somewhat inline) I will have to creat a setup like that.

serialk11r
06-05-2007, 08:37 PM
Hmmmm...try taking the EK res away. :) You should see your flow increase by a good bit.
Otherwise it looks nice. Maybe create a case for it? :D

virtualrain
06-05-2007, 10:03 PM
Very cool idea... at first I thought the RAD, etc. was actually outside your house which would obviously be ok in cool climates but in a cold basement you've got ideal ambiant temps year round without AC. Nice! :D

I agree with SerialK11r though... you need to clean it up, put the rad and res' in some kind of cabinet and clean up the overall setup and it would be a showpiece to be sure!

IanY
06-06-2007, 04:20 AM
That loop conjures up visions of being served divorce papers for me lol

lasse.j5
06-06-2007, 04:33 AM
Really smart thinking.

And :welcome: to XS

That loop conjures up visions of being served divorce papers for me lol

:rofl: :ROTF:

Grinch
06-06-2007, 04:36 AM
very cool!

welcome to xtremesystems...

Vice
06-06-2007, 10:39 AM
Very very cool.

Do you have some sort of way to unhook the tubes from the case to make the case movable? I'm not sure of the formal name but it is much like what you use for a pool or something, with a sort of handle that you twist to stop the flow of water.

I think those black things in the last pic may be what I am referring to, but I'm not sure.

~Vice

ranker
06-06-2007, 10:40 AM
Very very cool.

Do you have some sort of way to unhook the tubes from the case to make the case movable? I'm not sure of the formal name but it is much like what you use for a pool or something, with a sort of handle that you twist to stop the flow of water.

I think those black things in the last pic may be what I am referring to, but I'm not sure.

~Vice

Quick Disconnects

TommyGunn
06-07-2007, 05:11 AM
You are correct about the disconnects.

I know it's messy back there but the black things are Magnum Quick-Disconnect Valves. The are designed for aquarium use but what the heck, water is water right? (http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=3612&N=2004+113833) Each disconnect has a double shut off valve so I can close them and then disconnect without losing any water (just a couple of drops).

septim
06-07-2007, 06:17 AM
welcome to xtreme systems liquid cooling.

nice idea you got going there. could you also show us what your whole desk and pc looks like. and include said ventilated cabinet too.

HiJon89
06-07-2007, 06:27 AM
I want to try this one day with an Iwaki MD40RLT and two triple radiators in parallel :D

dnottis
06-07-2007, 06:29 AM
In about 10 years when I buy a home (assuming housing costs stay somewhat inline)....

:rofl:

TommyGunn
06-07-2007, 09:56 AM
Hmmmm...try taking the EK res away. :) You should see your flow increase by a good bit.
Otherwise it looks nice. Maybe create a case for it? :D

OK, I'm curious. Why would I see an increase without the EK? At this point it looks like it's just acting like a large dia tube to me.

Patriote
06-07-2007, 10:24 AM
Haha Thats awesome!

TommyGunn
06-07-2007, 05:14 PM
welcome to xtreme systems liquid cooling.

nice idea you got going there. could you also show us what your whole desk and PC looks like. and include said ventilated cabinet too.

OK, but take it easy on the not so clean comments :D

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x70/TommyGunn_photos/Watercooling/100_1735.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x70/TommyGunn_photos/Watercooling/100_1737.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x70/TommyGunn_photos/Watercooling/100_1738.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x70/TommyGunn_photos/Watercooling/100_1739.jpg

So the utility closet is connected to the clothes closet and there is air movement between all of them in the back. Plus there are air leaks around a windows I covered up as well as around some of the service entrance points. It's not really what you would call 'ventilated' but so far I don't notice any heat rise in the closet or the room but I'm not really dumping that much heat with this system anyway.