Xtreme Cooling Controller - SaNxU-

[SaNxU]

Hi, I'm very new here, but i have developed some times ago my own Phase Change Controller. Xtreme Cooling Controller (XCC).

Well this controller have this specs:

16x2 or 20x4 blue LCD with white letters. (optional 16x2 or 4x20)
PC completly controlled via USB.
5 proves (+100/-60)ºC with 0,5º error.
-Ambient (in the PCB)
-Evaporator (main prove)
-Compressor (control prove)
-Suction line (liquid suction control prove)
-Discharge (control prove)
PC on/off / 5v molex control
12V AC input
2x 12v fan regulable (case fans)
1x 220v fan (condenser fan)
Only in 1 board all the controller
1,5m cable for each prove
50cm LCD cable
1,5m pc cable connection
XCC software


Here some pics of the controller and the software:

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/1985/p5220020bz7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


And the software:

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/3126/2252007195133rh2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)




Best regards

[Unseen]

looks very nice :) Good job.

[tim-]

what systems is the software compatible with? xp? vista? unix? mac?

little bit more information about the software would be good.

Nice work!

[Clemmaster]

Is there any safety in the controller? For example does anything happen if the discharge pressure is too high (captube blocked or fan issues)? Does the controller supervise it itself or does it need the software?

It seem to be very cool :D

[LittleDevil]

Really nice controler ;)

regards

[Pete]

Also will it be in full english

[sacha35]

Very impressive work there, you are a very talented young man, well done again on a good job.

[runmc]

Very nice job on the controller - what type probes does it use?

[marru]

Is there any safety in the controller? For example does anything happen if the discharge pressure is too high (captube blocked or fan issues)? Does the controller supervise it itself or does it need the software?

It seem to be very cool :D

How would you measure the discharge pressure without a pressure transducer (which is very expensive)?

Nice controller :up:

[Brettbeck]

Excellent! I do Spanish (kind of :D), so I shouldn't have much of a problem reading software even if it was in Spanish. Converting the language to English would be a dodle though, if you need help on that let me know or im sure anyone else would be happy to help.

Are you able to get the probes to read even lower temps?

[Brettbeck]

How would you measure the discharge pressure without a pressure transducer (which is very expensive)?

Nice controller :up:


I would guess if temp starts to raise waaay to high, but still, that wouldn't be very accurate I don't think.

[n00b 0f l337]

Xxx

[SaNxU]

looks very nice :) Good job.

Thanks!


what systems is the software compatible with? xp? vista? unix? mac?


little bit more information about the software would be good.

Nice work!

It's compatible with Xp and Vista by the moment, but if a lot of people wants some unix and mac i can do something!



Is there any safety in the controller? For example does anything happen if the discharge pressure is too high (captube blocked or fan issues)? Does the controller supervise it itself or does it need the software?

It seem to be very cool :D

Yes the Compresor probe and the discharge prove if the temps increese a lot, you can configure it, the controller turns off the single stage and then the controller turns down the computer


Really nice controler ;)

regards

thanks!


Also will it be in full english

Yes, this software its only a beta, there will be in english all;) don'w worry for that;)


Very impressive work there, you are a very talented young man, well done again on a good job.

Well, i have to say that these controller are completly mine, some people helped me and designed controller and others;) I only will mount them;)


Very nice job on the controller - what type probes does it use?

The proves are the same that g-froster value and the same that unseens controller, by now. We're developing to put K type proves to next generation controllers;)


How would you measure the discharge pressure without a pressure transducer (which is very expensive)?

Nice controller :up:

Yes, the pressure transducer its very expensive, the controller measure the temperatura, and if its so high the controller turn down the system and the computer.


Excellent! I do Spanish (kind of :D), so I shouldn't have much of a problem reading software even if it was in Spanish. Converting the language to English would be a dodle though, if you need help on that let me know or im sure anyone else would be happy to help.

Are you able to get the probes to read even lower temps?

Spanish is a good lenguage! But here english its more important. You can add me at pol335@hotmail.com to talk about the translation and phase changes and more.



I would guess if temp starts to raise waaay to high, but still, that wouldn't be very accurate I don't think.

i dnt understand completly what do you wanna mean. My english isn't soo good.


Going to sell these?


Of course;) this Will be the XCC and in some weeks there will be a little controller that will be some basical controller for a low price!




Thanks! if someone would make some advertisment or something about the controller, some indications, etc, i will be very impatient to hear it;)

[Pete]

Dude this is amazing and i'm sold on it, i really like it. Can you get a photo of the lcd screen in use so we can see it all lit up?

[gosmeyer]

Great job, Sounds like you got all the bases covered.

[Shalamay]

Is it easy to use and install?

[SaNxU]

Dude this is amazing and i'm sold on it, i really like it. Can you get a photo of the lcd screen in use so we can see it all lit up?

Thanks!

if you want some pics, look at this post;)


Great job, Sounds like you got all the bases covered.

thanks!


Is it easy to use and install?

Yes, really easy, all the components in each connector, the controller its in only one pcb, etc..




Then, let's see some pics of the controllers: one with 16x2 blue lcd and the other with 4x20 blue lcd:

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/121/p5240003rt2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2041/p5070130jt9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And now some pics of the software via USB and some screens of the instalation;)

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8540/2852007235161bt2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6879/105200721551rl1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Best regards

[the_new_guy]

cool man..can it turn the computer on and off?

[tim-]

looks good, I also see you have made it in english now :) good to see.

is it possible to run this unit without connect it to computer?

regards
Tim

[SaNxU]

cool man..can it turn the computer on and off?

of course, it turns the computer down when one of the temps excedes the temperatures that you configures in the soft, when the SS turns off,etc.., and in new soft you could put all that you want in the LCD, You name, all the proves, etc...


looks good, I also see you have made it in english now :) good to see.

is it possible to run this unit without connect it to computer?

regards
Tim

Thanks. Yes the software is now complety in english, and of course too, the controller can go perfeclty without Pc connection;)

Best regards

SaNxU

[tim-]

is the information on the lcd adjustable? for example can I choose what I want to see on it? or does that require the pc connection?

is there any difference between the two units expect size of lcd?

[SaNxU]

is the information on the lcd adjustable? for example can I choose what I want to see on it? or does that require the pc connection?

is there any difference between the two units expect size of lcd?

no, you must connect to the PC to adjust the LCD, but standard adjustment works well too. This spec its only for the people that wants to put their name in the SS LCD or team, or something like this.

No, the controllers are the same, only changes the LCD;)

Best regards

SaNxU

[teyber]

question: did you maek that?

Making circuits isn't to hard, but programing them is...

[SaNxU]

question: did you maek that?

Making circuits isn't to hard, but programing them is...


for the programing i have been helped, some friend help me a lot to do the software;) and the chip programming too;)

Best regards

[Nosfer@tu]

Nice product :D

Maybe you should send it some of the Phase change ninjas for testing :) ?

And If they like it they could pay you :D or send it back :D

EDIT Amnot trying to intervean in your bussines, just want you to do good because it seamslike you made a god product :D

[Shalamay]

How hard would it be to replace my mach 1 controller?

[p8ntslinger676]

wow, sick controller, i love the 4x20:D

[tylerdustin2008]

Very VERY nice. What are the dimensions for the 4x20? Wider than a 5.25" bay. You might have another person sold on this. And like (His name here) said will you send it to the gurus of this very intriguing cooling method. For them to thoroughly test them?

[{.bLanK} GoD]

Very nice SaNxU
Well done.
Give that man a DB :up:

[Nosfer@tu]

Very nice SaNxU
Well done.
Give that man a DB :up:

DB ?

[SexyMF]

DB ?

It is a brand of beer in New Zealand.

[SaNxU]

Nice product :D

Maybe you should send it some of the Phase change ninjas for testing :) ?



EDIT Amnot trying to intervean in your bussines, just want you to do good because it seamslike you made a god product :D

Thanks;)

Yes, in 2 weeks i'll contact with the gurus for a controller testing;) but i have to do some controllers first to send it;)
.


wow, sick controller, i love the 4x20:D

Yes, its a good lcd;)xD Thanks!


Very VERY nice. What are the dimensions for the 4x20? Wider than a 5.25" bay. You might have another person sold on this. And like (His name here) said will you send it to the gurus of this very intriguing cooling method. For them to thoroughly test them?

Yes, i think that its a little bit wider than a 5,25 bay...

I'll send the controlers to guru to do some test's and reviews;) and in some days i'll upload an english manual;)



Very nice SaNxU
Well done.
Give that man a DB :up:

Thanks;)


Thanks to Nosfer@tu and SexyMF to resolve the DB problem;) jejejeje


Best regards, tomorrow there will be the pics with the 4x20 lcd line configuration and the 4x20 lcd personalize software;)

[Nosfer@tu]

Can we have som feedback on this :D
Anybody willing to tell us what they like and dont like :D

[xt0m]

Looking good indeed :up:

i can help with some translations as well

[yngndrw]

Nice, what did you make the PC software with ? C++ ? C# ? VB.net ?

[Shalamay]

Yea, I'd like to know if there is there any update on this?

[SaNxU]

Looking good indeed :up:

i can help with some translations as well

Will be interesting to have as lot as number of idioms for the software;) thanks;)


Nice, what did you make the PC software with ? C++ ? C# ? VB.net ?

the Pc software is written in Visual C++.;)


Yea, I'd like to know if there is there any update on this?



Some updates, its that I have develope new software and now we don'0t have to install drivers, windows reconize autmaticly the controller via USB. Only need the temp program and no more.







Best regards.

[Shalamay]

Thanks for the info. Looks good.

[SaNxU]

Some new controller pics: the 16x2 blue lcd controller vs the 4x20 blue lcd controller:DxD Let's see some pics of bouth:

Here the 4x20:

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/1645/p1000173wl1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

the two controllers:

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/2425/p1000176vn0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5475/p1000177ql0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


And here the 4 proves (the ambient one it's in the pcb) with an glued aluminium tape for putting the prove and have the maximum prove surfase in contact to the evap and others;)

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5338/p1000178gu3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Bouth ready for shipping.

Best regards

[Shalamay]

Does it come with instructions? Looks good, I'm still debating if I'm going to replace the controler in my Mach 1. Thanks again Sanxu.

[SaNxU]

Of course, now there are basical instructions that are being developed for all uses and lenguages;)

In Some days i'll post the instructions here;) let's wait few days;)

Best regards.

[rogard]

Any chance of emi shielding for the lcd screen cables?

[SaNxU]

LCd cable is so short, and noramlly the controller will be instalated on the condener, so i think that won't be interferences.

Best regards.

[generalpetres]

im just curious about the control cause i will be building a chilled water cooler and i was looking for a controler that will allow me to govern the temps and set limits to where if i my cooler to run 100 percent for max cooling it will or if i want my cooler to hold a certain temp. I also need something that will be able to sense if my comp is in stand by it will goto a set temp lets say stay at 25C then when the comp is back to regular mode it will goto a colder temp.

[rogard]

Two more questions -
1)does it have a shut down/restart delay of about 10 secs?
(for asus cold restart issues)
2)does it have a power on or power off delay of about 4 mins ?
(to be nice to the compressor)

Nice work btw..very rare to get a electronics and a software guy in one person!

[Duh]

im just curious about the control cause i will be building a chilled water cooler and i was looking for a controler that will allow me to govern the temps and set limits to where if i my cooler to run 100 percent for max cooling it will or if i want my cooler to hold a certain temp. I also need something that will be able to sense if my comp is in stand by it will goto a set temp lets say stay at 25C then when the comp is back to regular mode it will goto a colder temp.

interesting project mate.. keep us informed :cool:

[SaNxU]

im just curious about the control cause i will be building a chilled water cooler and i was looking for a controler that will allow me to govern the temps and set limits to where if i my cooler to run 100 percent for max cooling it will or if i want my cooler to hold a certain temp. I also need something that will be able to sense if my comp is in stand by it will goto a set temp lets say stay at 25C then when the comp is back to regular mode it will goto a colder temp.

No problem i can change the name of the probes and the lenght, and you can put a probe wereber you want;)

To set the limits its easy to shut down thes system, bacause you can use the set off compressor probe with a -10 temp, and when the resevoir (for example) excedes -10 the system will shut down by the controller, but turning on again its a little bit more complicated.

Best regards.


Two more questions -
1)does it have a shut down/restart delay of about 10 secs?
(for asus cold restart issues)
2)does it have a power on or power off delay of about 4 mins ?
(to be nice to the compressor)

Nice work btw..very rare to get a electronics and a software guy in one person!

I have to say that in electronics a friend help a lot;) jeje

1- yes, its 5 seconds for people that have an asus board;)

2- not 4 mins because there will be a lot of time on delaying. Standard configurations don't have this issue. But the guy with the phase change, if you have said that dont turn on inmediatly if the compressor shuts down i think its sufficient.

Best regards.


interesting project mate.. keep us informed :cool:

Yeah, interesting waterchiller. Keep us informed with pics;)



Best regards to all;)

[SexyMF]

2- not 4 mins because there will be a lot of time on delaying. Standard configurations don't have this issue. But the guy with the phase change, if you have said that dont turn on inmediatly if the compressor shuts down i think its sufficient.

Since you are using so many probes why not do what I did, and allow restart of the compressor only when the condensor and evaporator temperature is within a certain limit. If the temps are close then the pressure is near equal.
This works for me. This was easier than using a pressure transducer - they are expensive.

[generalpetres]

i wont be able to start my journy on my cooler till intel and nvidia release what i want to buy aka penryn quad core and 8950gx2 lol. but when i start it i will post a lot of pics. Reason i want my computer left on is i will be using a gigabyte i ram drive with 4 1 gig sticks and install windows on it. But i want the comp left on cause the battery life is only 16 hours and if i leave my comp on if i go on vacation or such it wont erase all teh memmory cause if the ram sticks run out of power the cmos will erase all info on the drive. and for thoes that are lost i will link you to some videos on youtube.com and oyu can see just how cool and fast this drive is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PiYgBhAkAM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnSvm5r7S7c&mode=related&search=

thses are just a few videos of how fast these drives are.

[luf1c3r]

Very good sanxu ;)

saludos desde España :D

[qlfecv]

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Probes conection:

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4666/p5290051kg7.th.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p5290051kg7.jpg) http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8623/p5290052nm5.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p5290052nm5.jpg)

And working the controller in my phase change.

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5122/p6040067lp6.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p6040067lp6.jpg)

[jinu117]

Coolness. Ever thought of making display bit smaller to fit in 5.25" bay? :)

[qlfecv]

I have 2x16 and 4x20 LCD display.

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4269/p9240063zj2.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p9240063zj2.jpg)

2 LCDs and cover 5.25" bay. LCD 4x20 is greater than the cover. :eek:

[Pete]

I really like this. I've PM'd the OP about a price, i take it he is still on here and making them? Also does all the txt on the display role through, IE: it chnages showing all the info?

I have a Ikon VFD, really nice bit of kit and big, could it be made to run on that at all?

[qlfecv]

I have been spoken with sanxu, he's studing soo hard :) , and i'll be the seller of controllers and others :D .

You must contact me for some information about the controllers, you can send some pm's and mails at qlfecv@ya.com.

All people that have some items with sanxu, please send me a mail and i'll do the controllers or the orders. :up:

Best regards

[mike8913]

i wont be able to start my journy on my cooler till intel and nvidia release what i want to buy aka penryn quad core and 8950gx2 lol. but when i start it i will post a lot of pics. Reason i want my computer left on is i will be using a gigabyte i ram drive with 4 1 gig sticks and install windows on it. But i want the comp left on cause the battery life is only 16 hours and if i leave my comp on if i go on vacation or such it wont erase all teh memmory cause if the ram sticks run out of power the cmos will erase all info on the drive. and for thoes that are lost i will link you to some videos on youtube.com and oyu can see just how cool and fast this drive is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PiYgBhAkAM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnSvm5r7S7c&mode=related&search=

thses are just a few videos of how fast these drives are.

the only problem i have with this that i have is that the O/S is accessing the memory almost constantly and the NAND will eventually ware out. It's not a pragmatic fro a long term solution

[Breathless]

How easy would it be to exchange my Mach II controller for this one and LCD? Is it doable for a normal person like myself?

[qlfecv]

:) :) :)

I have news.

A new version of XCC available: XCC Lite with the difference that has only a single probe for the evaporator.

Best regards

[jinu117]

Goes the other way for me... making circuit 100% reliable is hard for me but developing software for it isn't :P (used to make drivers, etc working at Samsung LOOONG time ago).
Anyways, I wouldn't mind a sample to test out. Keep in mind, I tend to test rigorously and will find most defects rather quickly... ahaha :P

[TiN_]

Good job, some questions.

I can't see relay for turning on\off main compressor of system. I think this is a must for phase ;) That little white one i guess is for computer control.

What MCU did you used?

And I'd tried SMD technology for PCB ;) It's much easier and take less space.

any future support for popular graphical LCDs?

[qlfecv]

Good job, some questions.

Thks


I can't see relay for turning on\off main compressor of system. I think this is a must for phase ;) That little white one i guess is for computer control.

It has no relay, it uses SCR. The image show as working with a phase change with an 1 HP rotary compressor 220v ac.

The problem is when start the compressor, which in the case of a rotary 1 HP is greater than 8A and XCC supports it well, later this down.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8418/dsc00446smallph5.jpg

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3637/dsc00445smallau5.jpg

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8459/dsc00451smallrq4.jpg


What MCU did you used?

XCC use Microchip 18F family.


And I'd tried SMD technology for PCB ;) It's much easier and take less space.

The size is not a problem, XCC size is 10x8 cm.


any future support for popular graphical LCDs?

:rolleyes: There is an alpha prototype with graphic LCD 128x64, it work with LCD smartie program (http://lcdsmartie.sourceforge.net/)