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C'DaleRider
05-21-2007, 08:01 AM
Supposedly, this set up their selling for $900 is what Hank Baron, President of Performance-PCs.com, decided was the "best of the best" in setting up the "ultimate" watercooling rig.


http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=21712



His goal:

"With the goal of a fully contained high performance system cooled with Fluid XP+ EXT and using dual loops, twin pumps, dual reservoirs, and 4 independent radiators left the Silverstone TJ09 as the best choice on the market for this new rig."


His hardware choices:

With any hardware imaginable at his disposal, the top of the case was cut and fitted with a Black Ice GTS 360 along with 3 Noctua 1200 Silent cooling fans and a custom laser cut radgrill.

The second rad mounted on the internal fan (connected to the side intake ducts) is a Black Ice GTX120 which is used primarily to cool the processor. The loop completes then by cooling the Northbridge and 2 voltage regulators using the fabulous EK chipset and mosfet water blocks, as well as the OCZ FlexXLC ram which feeds a Black Ice GTS120 mounted on the rear 120mm case fan.

The case uses two Swiftech MCP655 water pumps and two Alphacool Cape Bullseye's which are custom mounted to the front of the case to anchor both loops. Completing the watercooled setup is the Swiftech Apogee GTX CPU block, the Danger Den NV-8800GTX SLI GPU blocks, and 1/2" Tygon tubing for most of both loops. The ram had split off 1/4" tubing and the Southbridge cooling was accomplished with a blue Orbit chipset cooler since this does not get extremely hot to warrant a water block.


Power to this extreme system uses none other then the Koolance 1200 Watt Water Cooled PSU.


So, Black Ice GTS/GTX the best choices out there with access to, as they put it, any hardware imaginable?

And the Koolance 1200W power supply.......nice, but since it's based on an 850W Channel Well PSH850V, it had horrible ripple when supplying power at or above 850W....above ATX specs. Honestly, if you peak it beyond 850W, it'll hold up and the excessive voltage and ripple will spike at such short intervals that it should not have much effect on your other components. But there's no way you can say that Koolance has successfully managed to get 1200W out of an 850W product. Not if the ripple and noise is beyond 120mV on the +12V rails.....peaking around 180mV....completely out of control after hitting 850W of output.


So, is the Performance PC's ultimate watercooling base a good buy? Or just goodbye?

nugzo
05-21-2007, 08:10 AM
Supposedly, this set up their selling for $900 is what Hank Baron, President of Performance-PCs.com, decided was the "best of the best" in setting up the "ultimate" watercooling rig.


http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=21712



His goal:

"With the goal of a fully contained high performance system cooled with Fluid XP+ EXT and using dual loops, twin pumps, dual reservoirs, and 4 independent radiators left the Silverstone TJ09 as the best choice on the market for this new rig."


His hardware choices:

With any hardware imaginable at his disposal, the top of the case was cut and fitted with a Black Ice GTS 360 along with 3 Noctua 1200 Silent cooling fans and a custom laser cut radgrill.

The second rad mounted on the internal fan (connected to the side intake ducts) is a Black Ice GTX120 which is used primarily to cool the processor. The loop completes then by cooling the Northbridge and 2 voltage regulators using the fabulous EK chipset and mosfet water blocks, as well as the OCZ FlexXLC ram which feeds a Black Ice GTS120 mounted on the rear 120mm case fan.

The case uses two Swiftech MCP655 water pumps and two Alphacool Cape Bullseye's which are custom mounted to the front of the case to anchor both loops. Completing the watercooled setup is the Swiftech Apogee GTX CPU block, the Danger Den NV-8800GTX SLI GPU blocks, and 1/2" Tygon tubing for most of both loops. The ram had split off 1/4" tubing and the Southbridge cooling was accomplished with a blue Orbit chipset cooler since this does not get extremely hot to warrant a water block.


Power to this extreme system uses none other then the Koolance 1200 Watt Water Cooled PSU.


So, Black Ice GTS/GTX the best choices out there with access to, as they put it, any hardware imaginable?

And the Koolance 1200W power supply.......nice, but since it's based on an 850W Channel Well PSH850V, it had horrible ripple when supplying power at or above 850W....above ATX specs. Honestly, if you peak it beyond 850W, it'll hold up and the excessive voltage and ripple will spike at such short intervals that it should not have much effect on your other components. But there's no way you can say that Koolance has successfully managed to get 1200W out of an 850W product. Not if the ripple and noise is beyond 120mV on the +12V rails.....peaking around 180mV....completely out of control after hitting 850W of output.


So, is the Performance PC's ultimate watercooling base a good buy? Or just goodbye?

Goodbye in my opinion. it looks horrible.

SaFrOuT
05-21-2007, 08:10 AM
for 900$ for sure goodbye

PSU is not worth it IMHO

and i was waiting for PA rad not GT

nealh
05-21-2007, 09:13 AM
you missed it $900 without psu and cpu waterblock, caster wheels and I am sure no gpu blocks:shrug:

$300 case..add $600 for what 2 pumps,3non Thermochill rads,3 fans...case modding..OMFG:rolleyes:

DepTi
05-21-2007, 09:19 AM
Looks like crap, but then again I also dislike that case.

IanY
05-21-2007, 10:34 AM
Its incredibly bad taste aesthetic wise and and uses substandard water cooling equipment.

And which Cannondale frame do you ride? :)

Hard H20
05-21-2007, 10:46 AM
Goodbye :down:

SNiiPE_DoGG
05-21-2007, 02:01 PM
the g70 watercooled version they sell pwns that (despite the top mount rad)

Aldy402
05-21-2007, 02:25 PM
that thing is ugly and cluttered, what a desperate attempt

Aqua-Pc's
05-21-2007, 02:31 PM
I must say I admire there work but i dont really like the look of that case.

p8ntslinger676
05-21-2007, 03:10 PM
nice try hank, but in my eyes that would be a definite goodbye.:stick:

Noob-ftw
05-21-2007, 03:14 PM
I like the case and everything, I just think there's too much of a jungle inside.

Gunlance
05-21-2007, 04:03 PM
Way too busy inside. 900 is a lot when you don' get everything you see.

Jedda
05-21-2007, 09:01 PM
Guy designs like he orders fat-food.
One from column A etc.
No original thought, over-priced. An expensive trap for the inexperienced and gullible , imo.

situman
05-21-2007, 09:11 PM
anyone buys that has to be stupid rich or just plain stupid. Just look at it, its unncessarily complicated and whats that thing jutting out from the rear?

serialk11r
05-21-2007, 09:12 PM
LOL in this thread here, we're bashing the koolance psu thing. Check out the news section, people are drooling at it...:stick:

k00lance
05-21-2007, 09:14 PM
They are not all that bad if price was about 2/3 lower. :D

serialk11r
05-21-2007, 09:22 PM
They are not all that bad if price was about 2/3 lower. :D

Nah I wouldn't buy that crap. It would be cool to have a homemade watercooled PSU though :D that's something to brag about.

IanY
05-22-2007, 06:34 AM
I think the first rule of water cooling is that the reservoir shouldn't be at the bottom of the case.

Baleful
05-22-2007, 07:22 AM
What a waiste of money!

1. It looks like crap
2. Substandard Liquid Cooling equipment
3. Holy mother of restriction
4. Horrible layout

:down: