Would a PA120.3 cool 2x8800gtx's & a e6600 on it's own ok?

[ladderman]

Do you think a PA120.3 would be up to the job of cooling two 8800gtx's sli and a E6600 cpu in one loop.

Loop spec:

D5
D-TEK FuZion CPU Block
2 x EK-FC8800 8800 GTX - Acetal
PA120.3
EK-Multioption RES 200mm
Tygon 3603 1/2" Tubing

[eXceededgoku]

hmmm I thinking it would run alright but as soon as the graphics cards were loaded temps all round will shoot up. Best to put the e6600 on a loop of its own somehow...

[ladderman]

hmmm I thinking it would run alright but as soon as the graphics cards were loaded temps all round will shoot up. Best to put the e6600 on a loop of its own somehow...

I would like to have two loops, but because Iv'e got A Galaxy 1000w psu in the base of my TJ07 I think it will be too tight to get a 240 rad down their on the same side as the psu, and opposite the PA120.3.

If I put the rad for the cpu up were the top case fans are it would have to be something like a B I Stealth. Would that rad be ok the cool a cpu and nb?

[Solarfall]

if you overclock your cpu and videocards then i would say it's pretty slim change that only one pa 120.3 would do.. those components put out a lot of heat especially the 2 8800gtx even at stock speeds.

[ladderman]

if you overclock your cpu and videocards then i would say it's pretty slim change that only one pa 120.3 would do.. those components put out a lot of heat especially the 2 8800gtx even at stock speeds.

Yes I agree with you,
I've put the system together just to make sure everything is working ok before I start pulling it apart to watercool it. And those two 8800 gtx's get really hot. playing BF2 they get up to 70c on their stock fans. You can feel the heat on the back of the case!!

What 30mm rad would be ok to cool the cpu & nb, because it would have to go were the top case fans are on the TJ07.

I have about 55mm to play with, thats with the rad fan aswell

PS.
The Raptor X 150gb is making alot of cliking noise when the arm moves across the platters, Should I RMA it?. Mind I did run a diag test and it past ok

[Solarfall]

And those two 8800 gtx's get really hot. playing BF2 they get up to 70c on their stock fans. You can feel the heat on the back of the case!!
PS.
The Raptor X 150gb is making alot of cliking noise when the arm moves across the platters, Should I RMA it?. Mind I did run a diag test and it past ok

:eek: yaks 70c on stock clocks !!!.. mine is 43c with the Ek block with 684/1110 mhz..
what comes to the raptor x, your probably fine, but clicking noise usually does not promise anything good.. mine are virtually silent.

[ladderman]

:eek: yaks 70c on stock clocks !!!.. mine is 43c with the Ek block with 684/1110 mhz..
what comes to the raptor x, your probably fine, but clicking noise usually does not promise anything good.. mine are virtually silent.

I was amazed myself just how hot they get under load, as for the Raptor it's doing my head in so I'll be sending it back to scan computers tommrow.

Can you recommend a thin rad that I could use to cool the cpu & nb

[Solarfall]

Black Ice GTX360 is pretty decent imo.

http://www.dangerden.com/store/product.php?productid=260&cat=90&page=1

if you want even thinner rad then probably i would go for Black Ice Pro III Radiator.

http://www.dangerden.com/store/product.php?productid=163&cat=84&page=1

[JeffnWV]

I run my 2 88's and 6600 (@3.65ghz) on one loop with a pa 120.3. At 100%load the cpu's are under 50c...I crank Oblivion for hours on it.

[JeffnWV]

If I put the rad for the cpu up were the top case fans are it would have to be something like a B I Stealth. Would that rad be ok the cool a cpu and nb?

The BI Pro is a better rad than the stealth (less restrictive). I run my NB/SB and mem sinks thru one.

[JeffnWV]

:eek: yaks 70c on stock clocks !!!...

that's normal temps for them...

[Solarfall]

that's normal temps for them...

not if you have one cooled with water cooling from day one, like me :D

[serialk11r]

PA120.3 should keep water temps somewhere around 10C above ambient, less if you don't run programs that load the CPU 100% like BOINC F@H etc. That's at full load, so when you're gaming it'll probably hit those temps.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

you can run a PA120.1 on the cpu easily and still get great OC, my load temp at 3.71 ghz is never above 52C (Yes that is a TDX laughing at all of your fuzion's and GTX's)

[_G_]

my load temp at 3.71 ghz is never above 52C (Yes that is a TDX laughing at all of your fuzion's and GTX's)

try this
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
and this
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/392/Intel_Thermal_Analysis_Tool.html

[nugzo]

I run my 2 88's and 6600 (@3.65ghz) on one loop with a pa 120.3. At 100%load the cpu's are under 50c...I crank Oblivion for hours on it.
Full Cover Blocks on 8800's?


ladderman I have a thread started asking similar question with same set up. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=144798

[ladderman]

The BI Pro is a better rad than the stealth (less restrictive). I run my NB/SB and mem sinks thru one.

I was go'na order a B I pro from a company in the uk, but left it too late all sold out now.

I'm go'na make a wood replica of a MCR220-QP tomorrow to see if I can get one to fit in the bottom of my case with PA120.3 and the galaxy 1000w psu. Should be fun ha ha.

[ladderman]

that's normal temps for them...

Nivdia control panel temp monitor show's 65c idle

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

try this
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
and this
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/392/Intel_Thermal_Analysis_Tool.html

I always use core temp fool, you think i would try to cop out and use speedfan/nvidia or something.

[MikeMK]

Very high temps on your EK blocks. Are you sure they are mounted correctly - they can be a bit tricky to mount.

My 8800's dont go above 45 degrees on my EK's and im running a DDC2 Ultra pushing a Thermochill PA120.2 and BIX 120.2, on one loop cooling CPU, NB & two EK 8800 blocks. I would have thought my cooling capacity wouldnt be that much greater as the PA series rads are generally better at getting rid of heat than the BIX's.

[eXceededgoku]

why don't you draw a diagram?
Here's one i made earlier:
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1460/tj07betaot2.jpg
All I did was find out the measurements of all the hardware I have and put it into a birdseye view of my TJ07. Basically I only have the powersupply, a PA120.3 with 3 yates connected. I have yet to add a PA120.2 and 2 D5's but I will be completing it tomorrow.

[pie_uk]

you are fitting 1x pa 120.3 and 1x pa 120.2 in the bottom of a TJ07?

[JeffnWV]

Full Cover Blocks on 8800's?

yea..EK's

[JeffnWV]

Very high temps on your EK blocks. Are you sure they are mounted correctly - they can be a bit tricky to mount.

Mike, I'm pretty sure he said stock fans...

[eXceededgoku]

you are fitting 1x pa 120.3 and 1x pa 120.2 in the bottom of a TJ07?

I'm going to damn well try! Not sure if it's going to work yet until I finish that "schematic" as it were. I reckon it can be done ;).
FYI my hard drives are in my 5 1/2" drive bay and the only other thing in the bottom is my powersupply.

[NaeKuh]

The BI Pro is a better rad than the stealth (less restrictive). I run my NB/SB and mem sinks thru one.

swiftech's mcr series will pwn both of them. :D

[JeffnWV]

Nivdia control panel temp monitor show's 65c idle

yea sounds about right.. mine are idling at 38 now on water...

[septim]

eXceeded mayb you could isolate bottom part of tj07 like intake bottom holes and exhause through rad on both sides of case, if you're gonna stand them PArads with 25mm fans, they'll be like 3 1/2inch thick.

[eXceededgoku]

eXceeded mayb you could isolate bottom part of tj07 like intake bottom holes and exhause through rad on both sides of case, if you're gonna stand them PArads with 25mm fans, they'll be like 3 1/2inch thick.

That's what I plan on doing :) (it was one of the reasons I ordered 10 YL's from PetraTech lol)

[JeffnWV]

swiftech's mcr series will pwn both of them. :D

So will a Thermochill....

but we are talking about single fan rads...no such mcr.

[ladderman]

Very high temps on your EK blocks. Are you sure they are mounted correctly - they can be a bit tricky to mount.

My 8800's dont go above 45 degrees on my EK's and im running a DDC2 Ultra pushing a Thermochill PA120.2 and BIX 120.2, on one loop cooling CPU, NB & two EK 8800 blocks. I would have thought my cooling capacity wouldnt be that much greater as the PA series rads are generally better at getting rid of heat than the BIX's.

The temp I've quoted are for the stock air fans that are fitted at the factory.

65c idle, 70c under load play bf2

[Xion X2]

A PA120.3 would be more than enough to cool an OC'd CPU and two GTXs. I ran all of this off a Black Ice Stealth 360/120 and Thermochills are supposedly better than what I have.

My temps never went over 52C on the GPUs and CPU under full Prime load w/ small FFTs was 55C @ 1.57V.

[Kurz]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/88-89-90-91-CIVIC-CRX-KOYO-HIGH-FLOW-RADIATOR_W0QQitemZ190113860323QQcmdZViewItem?hash= item190113860323
If you want to run near ambiant.

There is a guy who got 10 degrees above amb using that radiator passively.
Then he used an active solution to get 5 degrees above amb.

I'll be doing the same thing.

[ladderman]

why don't you draw a diagram?
Here's one i made earlier:
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1460/tj07betaot2.jpg
All I did was find out the measurements of all the hardware I have and put it into a birdseye view of my TJ07. Basically I only have the powersupply, a PA120.3 with 3 yates connected. I have yet to add a PA120.2 and 2 D5's but I will be completing it tomorrow.

This it he plan I thought of for the layout for the two loops, and also what it would look like in the base .

I only have one pump at the momment which is a D5 that I plan to cool the cpu and nb.

I am thinking of getting a dcc ultra to cool the gpu's.

Or do you think another D5 would do the job just as good??

[ladderman]

A PA120.3 would be more than enough to cool an OC'd CPU and two GTXs. I ran all of this off a Black Ice Stealth 360/120 and Thermochills are supposedly better than what I have.

My temps never went over 52C on the GPUs and CPU under full Prime load w/ small FFTs was 55C @ 1.57V.

What type of blocks did you have on the 8800gtx's ?

I've just ordered two EK-FC8800 8800 GTX - Acetal full cover

[Darks0ulz]

This it he plan I thought of for the layout for the two loops, and also what it would look like in the base .

I only have one pump at the momment which is a D5 that I plan to cool the cpu and nb.

I am thinking of getting a dcc ultra to cool the gpu's.

Or do you think another D5 would do the job just as good??
Just a quick question, how would you mount the BIP up on the top? I'm planning on doing something like that w/ the tj07 but I don't know how to mount it uptop without drilling holes.

[pie_uk]

I'm going to damn well try! Not sure if it's going to work yet until I finish that "schematic" as it were. I reckon it can be done ;).
FYI my hard drives are in my 5 1/2" drive bay and the only other thing in the bottom is my powersupply.


lol i guessed so. they may get angry if you left them in there with the PA's

edit is the DDC-2 the "ultra?"

[pie_uk]

A PA120.3 would be more than enough to cool an OC'd CPU and two GTXs. I ran all of this off a Black Ice Stealth 360/120 and Thermochills are supposedly better than what I have.

My temps never went over 52C on the GPUs and CPU under full Prime load w/ small FFTs was 55C @ 1.57V.


ok thats crazy. did you run TAT? my temps would be off the wall at that vcore.

what fans cpu block where you using?

[ranker]

This it he plan I thought of for the layout for the two loops, and also what it would look like in the base .

I only have one pump at the momment which is a D5 that I plan to cool the cpu and nb.

I am thinking of getting a dcc ultra to cool the gpu's.

Or do you think another D5 would do the job just as good??

With two separate loops, there wouldn't be too much of a performance advantage with a DDC-2 over a D5. I still would personally go with a DDC-2, but thats only because its smaller and quieter. If any of those concerns aren't important to you, then just save yourself $25 and get a D5.

[Xion X2]

What type of blocks did you have on the 8800gtx's ?

I've just ordered two EK-FC8800 8800 GTX - Acetal full cover

One was an EK block, one was the Dangerden block. Both full-cover.

[Xion X2]

ok thats crazy. did you run TAT? my temps would be off the wall at that vcore.

what fans cpu block where you using?

TAT was around 64-66C. Tends to read about 10C higher than dual-Prime small FFTs.

On the 360 Stealth, I used 68cfm AeroCools in a pull config pulling cool air into the top of the case through the rad fins. On the rear 120 Stealth, I used a 78cfm Thermaltake Thunderblade in a pull config.

My temps were about 5C lower by using a pull config instead of trying to push warm air out of the case through the rad fins.

For the CPU, I have a Swiftech Storm.

[eXceededgoku]

Okay I quickly found out that a PA120.3 and a PA120.2 don't fit in the bottom along with 2 D5s and so I have gone with the obvious (the loop I should have started out with tbh) which is the same except instead of D5s, some of Petra's awesome DDCT-1 w/ 18W DDC-2 pump which fit (with space to spare!).
Here is a rough guesstimation drawing:
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/383/tj07v10gt9.jpg
Didn't want to start a new thread because this project won't be happening until Summer and I imagine it will take roughly a week to make it to my liking. I will most likely model it in 3d as well at some point.

[ladderman]

Just a quick question, how would you mount the BIP up on the top? I'm planning on doing something like that w/ the tj07 but I don't know how to mount it uptop without drilling holes.

I'm not sure yet how I'll be mounting it to the top grill yet as I've just ordered it. It should be here in a couple of days, and when I get the rest of the bits this week I'll be starting a work log at the beginning of next week.

I'll be showing loads of pics of the build progress, so watch out for the thread next week and you'll see how I mount it.

It might mount inside the grill frame work without having to drill any holes from the top, but i won't know until I've tried it in there when it comes.