Vista Like or dislike

[littleowl]

ok I see all kinds of threads that say vista stinks and I see all kinds of threads that say vista is great.

So lets get a good poll telling everyone what XS people think about vista in one big thread!!!

[NickS]

Love :D

I love Vista. I've been running it for a few months now, and I think it rocks.

[[XC] mysticmerlin]

:up: Just like OSX only with all the warnings of xp :up:

[NickS]

OSX is horribly dumbed down. Vista w/UAC disabled is perfect.

[nn_step]

OSX is horribly dumbed down. Vista w/UAC disabled is perfect.

there are about alot of other changes that could also be suggested

[SkylinGTR26]

vista w/ the whole security center disabled except for defense.
Perfect =]
all i need are some more compatible apps, and drivers.

Oh, i actually think i wont be using vista for a while, since my keyboard (teh best keyboard ever!, Logitech Elite) wont have iTouch in vista, so i cant use teh best features on my keyboard =[

[louie101086]

not that bad as i thought you really have to try it for yourself

[NickS]

I don't mind the security center or windows defender. Never gives me any problems.

[nobugging]

After SP1 I will get a copy of Ultimate 64 - Dam I like dreamScene

[eXceeded]

i turned off security center and UAC, otherwise its an awesome OS!

[m411b]

I used to like vista till people started bringing me their computers to get fixed because "Windows Explorer caused an error and had to close". This has happened on numerous different machines and they all have Vista Home Basic or Ultimate on them. All you can do about it is re-install the OS because when it happens, you reboot and it happens again and again, and you can't work with the machine because for some reason "Windows Explorer" doesn't recover correctly.

[technodanvan]

I'm pretty happy with it, I tried the Beta around a year ago and didn't care for it at all, but the retail version of Ultimate seems much, much better (even on a single core AM2, 2GB ram, and a 7100GS). I'll be installing it on my main rig sometime this week as soon as I find a floppy drive to get some RAID action going...

[Speederlander]

Any way to read who is voting? The majority of people posting here either like it or (a smaller number) are neutral, yet the dislike category is growing quickly and seems largely anonymous. Should have made the poll public.

[dicecca112]

I was pleasantly surprised by it. I like, like most I disabled almost everything I could, and now it works fine

[littleowl]

M411b;2201383']I used to like vista till people started bringing me their computers to get fixed because "Windows Explorer caused an error and had to close". This has happened on numerous different machines and they all have Vista Home Basic or Ultimate on them. All you can do about it is re-install the OS because when it happens, you reboot and it happens again and again, and you can't work with the machine because for some reason "Windows Explorer" doesn't recover correctly.

I have seen this on several systems myself. I have not found a way to fix it other then re install like you said. :(
I have also found that vista is kind of nice and fun but when it messes up it is a real pain in the @$$ to figure out how it fix unlike xp.


Any way to read who is voting? The majority of people posting here either like it or (a smaller number) are neutral, yet the dislike category is growing quickly and seems largely anonymous. Should have made the poll public.


sorry Speeder I thought more people would vote and type in there opinions if I didn't make it public.

[Colossous]

Been using vista business on two machines for months now and the only issue i had was with an ATI X1900XTX that refused to play at all (fine now its back on XP on another machine) no matter what drivers used !! It seems to run a little slower than XP machines but has a generally better feel to it !! :up:

[amrgb]

Unfortunately I had to pass on Vista because of drivers. Damn nVidia that doesn't release working drivers for nforce4 raid.

I was using vista fine until i bought two seagates 7200.10 to setup a double raid-0. Then all problems started. Really crappy performance, about the same as single drives. On top of that the newer Seagates with firmware AAK don't play well with nforce4, either in single or raid, vista or xp. Nice write performance, but read performance is capped at 50MB/s or so for 90% of the disk surface. But they work better on xp though.

I'm going to offer these two crappy seagates to my brother, get some proper hard drives, and get back to vista.

[adamsleath]

40% vista so far; 60% non-vista.

[Jimmer411]

I have a dual boot setup on my latop with XP Pro and Vista Ultimate and since the initial install of both OS, I have yet to boot back into XP. So much for partitioning off half my HDD for gaming and things that dont work in vista eh? lol.

On the other hand, sometimes it bugs me when vista blocks something that I just installed and went to use, as soon as it goes fullscreen. Simple fix, just click an icon in the corner and allow it, but I kinda prefer XP way of popping up a message at least instead of a taskbar balloon that dissapears in half a second.

I disabled defender, it always seemed to run when I come out of hibernation (which reminds me I need to disable that!) totally bogging down my laptop for 5-10 mins at a time. Of course, that could because Im running a poopy celeron 1.4ghz instead of a dualcore. It still bugs me that for the first 3-4 mins that I come out of hibernation Im sitting at 100% cpu usage....grrr

Other than that everything has went smoothly. WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY smoother than 95, 98 and XP releases Id have to say. I think that the largest problem with vista isnt vista itsself, I mean, DX10 is there as well as a whole slew of new features, I think its the lack of software (Games) as well as hardware (Hybrid HDD, more mainstream DX10 GPU) and lack of support for some legacy systems (AXP, P3 etc) but lets face it, 486 had to die some day ;)

Vista will be going on my main rig once I do a full system build in january :)

[Speederlander]

40% vista so far; 60% non-vista.

What do you mean? This poll?

So far it is 25 "like" Vista (with 7 still waiting on additional driver support, but indicating they like it) and 10 "dislike" Vista on the poll. "Neutral" doesn't mean anything one way or the other without clarification.

Judging by the people actually posting, the pro-Vista greatly outnumber the dislike-Vista.

Seems like most people who actually spend time with Vista and work to understand or fix issues like it. Just how it seems from the comments here and in the thread in the News forum.

[nn_step]

considering how Soon Microsoft is going to drop support for XP, it isn't surprising.
Now the surprising fact is that Microsoft is going to drop support for XP before dropping support for 2000

[Speederlander]

considering how Soon Microsoft is going to drop support for XP, it isn't surprising.

Won't have an impact on whether people like or dislike Vista, unless you are implying that the fear of no XP support by MS at some point in the future is somehow scaring people into posting positively about Vista now or generally forcing them into having good feelings toward it?

[ChaosMinionX]

Im waiting for either Vista SP1, or the release of the new XSOS to decide anything. I have Vista Ultimate X64 sitting here on my desk, I just dont think the need to go Vista is there atm.

[nn_step]

Won't have an impact on whether people like or dislike Vista, unless you are implying that the fear of no XP support by MS at some point in the future is somehow scaring people into posting positively about Vista now or generally forcing them into having good feelings toward it?

more like the willingness for people to "get comfortable" with something they have no other option than...

[Speederlander]

more like the willingness for people to "get comfortable" with something they have no other option than...

No, most people aren't even aware of Microsoft's willingness (or lack thereof) to support XP at some future date. In any event, people would be nursing a grudge and it would be apparent. It's not like anyone on XS holds back in their opinions when something annoys them, especially with Microsoft. No way the various people posting actual opinions in this thread have been zombified into being MS shills in the here and now just because MS may not support XP someday.

[littleowl]

I think your misunderstanding nn

he was IMO trying to say something like go to Best buy and buy a pc. then only os they will give you is vista.
so you don't have a choice if you like it or not.

he is not trying to say they are posting here saying like vista because of scared or anything like that

[Speederlander]

littleowl;2202593']I think your misunderstanding nn

he was IMO trying to say something like go to Best buy and buy a pc. then only os they will give you is vista.
so you don't have a choice if you like it or not.

Not really...

considering how Soon Microsoft is going to drop support for XP, it isn't surprising.

Sounds to me like everyone actually posting opinions in this thread had a choice, one way or the other. This IS XtremeSystems, in any event. Not many people here buying pre-packaged PCs from Best Buy. ;)



he is not trying to say they are posting here saying like vista because of scared or anything like that
I know, he is saying people here are giving Vista good reviews because they feel they have no choice because of what MS will be doing down the road with XP.

[littleowl]

. Not many people here buying pre-packaged PCs from Best Buy. ;)



LOL Very true!

but if you look at the papers and everything you see, (I keep seeing this all over xs) MS sold 50 million copies of vista. That doesn't mean 50 million people use it or even want it. they didn't have a choice. most of the copies were sold to places like Dell or HP.

I see both sides.

Because of all these types of posts I made this thread hoping that everyone would debate in here and not keep making 15 different threads about this. I read 2 threads yesterday that all they talked about was how great vista is. and people asking if it was as good as they say. Then I read another one same thing but all hated vista. I have used it for a month now and I am still undecided on it. I think with a lot more work it could be an ok OS.

[adamsleath]

65% pussent 'non'-vista now.....

[littleowl]

65% pussent 'non'-vista now.....

:) why the change?

[djagentorange]

This thread is a good idea.

Honestly, I think all the negative :banana::banana::banana::banana: is coming from benchmark monkeys trying to squeeze out 3 more 3dmarks from their system. If you have a modern system, it runs great, and in a lot of real-world instances, I find it faster than xp. Superfetch is awesome. So far I haven't found any software that won't work, and that's another myth I see floating around.

So yeah, basically if you don't care about benchmarks, try it out. I've got a dual boot, and I've never booted back into XP since I got vista running. :up:

[littleowl]

This thread is a good idea.

Thanks!

[amrgb]

So far I haven't found any software that won't work, and that's another myth I see floating around.

Procoder 2 doesn't work for me it crashes after a few minutes of encoding, Scenarist 3 has a bug that makes it shutdown when you hover the mouse over a time box and scientific workplace (text editor for latex) uses one core fully when its window is active.

So it's not a myth. I reckon it is not as generalized a problem as some people want us to believe, but there are definitely problems in this area.

That said, I was still using Vista full time despite these problems. Avoided the text box in scenarist, used another encoder and used the scientific workplace on a virtual XSOS v2.

[itznfb]

i love Vista. i'm running Vista Home Premium 64 bit, and 32 bit (home theater). i've had a couple crashing issues, and some application that tell me they weren't installed properly but they were.

i see a lot of people disabling UAC and security center, which in my opinion, if you're going to do that, you might as well just stick with XP. it seems like no one has used UAC long enough to realize that it stops asking you about known applications and you can also customize it. so after about a month of using it, it really only asks you about new and/or harmful applications. i think it's very useful.

[itznfb]

Procoder 2 doesn't work for me it crashes after a few minutes of encoding, Scenarist 3 has a bug that makes it shutdown when you hover the mouse over a time box and scientific workplace (text editor for latex) uses one core fully when its window is active.

So it's not a myth. I reckon it is not as generalized a problem as some people want us to believe, but there are definitely problems in this area.

That said, I was still using Vista full time despite these problems. Avoided the text box in scenarist, used another encoder and used the scientific workplace on a virtual XSOS v2.

have you tried running in XP SP2 compatibility mode? i've had very few apps that didn't work, XP SP2 mode worked on a couple of them.

[Holst]

Im using vista as it was pre-installed on my laptop.

Ive not run into many problems, I found that some applications didnt work for me, but most cound be patched to run. I did have problems with some games, but I think thats down to Nvidia. And as Nvidia no longer provide drivers for mobile chipsets its difficult to get updated drivers that work, but I might have the same issues under XP.

It seems plenty fast enough to me, just as responsive as XP as far as I can tell.

That said... I dont see any major advantages over XP either. If this laptop has been pre-installed with XP then I wouldnt bother to change to Vista.

[amrgb]

itznfb;2203113']have you tried running in XP SP2 compatibility mode? i've had very few apps that didn't work, XP SP2 mode worked on a couple of them.

Yes, still a no go.