why do people use Asetek S775 for custom SS ?

[Nosfer@tu]

Im getting a nice custom SS soon.

Just woundered why the hell anybody would want to use the Asetek S775 socket kit for a custom unit ?

I dident see any benifits in using it, or?

Thx in advance for you time and energi :)

[rogard]

Well I can tell you why I did :)

I did it because I wanted to be sure that the head was compatible with future asetek sockets.

And I also wanted to use the same mount and insulation that came with the lightspeed, so it was a simply slide off and slide on :)

So I guess it was for ease of upgrade and compatibility?

(I think some peeps also do it if the custom SS is using the asetek CC and want to keep the heater elements)

[Brettbeck]

People use those types of mounts in all kinds of custom systems, even cascades.

I think the main reason is because they work well and look good :). And you can get them quite cheap now too.

[Nosfer@tu]

Isent it only Chilly1 and coolerexprees that sell them ?

The asetek kit is about 100£ including heaters.

[Brettbeck]

Yea chilly1 sells them and they are just about identical as far as I know, apart from a damn site cheaper :D.

I think some computer shops also sell the vapochill ones as spairs but they are quite expensive.

[M.Beier]

Because it is well tested, and it works...
Small odds of getting condensation all over the place, very good odds of getting perfect mount first time, even when not using an IHS..

[[XC] gomeler]

Agreed, it's a tested and prooven design and it simply works. I get perfect contact everytime with my chilly1 enclosure, so much better than my ghetto-fabbed enclosures of the past.

[runmc]

Yea chilly1 sells them and they are just about identical as far as I know, apart from a damn site cheaper :D.

I think some computer shops also sell the vapochill ones as spairs but they are quite expensive.

The one Chilly1 sells comes from China. It is the same enclosure Cooler Express uses. It is a nice enclosure but lacks on the insulation and bolts that come with it. It has no heater.
The Vapo enclosure is a much more complete unit with excellent insulation and bolts and heater.

They are most definitely not the same. :)

[n00b 0f l337]

Hopefully heaters will be with Chilly1s soon though, provided the manufacture does them correctly this time. The halves in the Chilly1 are also a pour foam that are around 6lb density and should insulate better. They are also made as separate halves and so don't fit together as nicely as the Vapo's do.

[Nosfer@tu]

Hopefully heaters will be with Chilly1s soon though, provided the manufacture does them correctly this time. The halves in the Chilly1 are also a pour foam that are around 6lb density and should insulate better. They are also made as separate halves and so don't fit together as nicely as the Vapo's do.


The first reversions that Asetek had produced had some issues also.
on the heaters where the 2 threads form the heater joins, there is a read knob. and because of that knob was a bit larger then the old S939 the foam in the evap enclosure was pused abour 1-2 mm more out than the other half.

Thus leaving ALOT of air to condensate and incereasing the problems with getting a god mounting.

Asetek charges around 135 Euro per socket kit.
maybe I should keep my spear seet and mod it to fit on my LD SS :)

[Nosfer@tu]

The one Chilly1 sells comes from China. It is the same enclosure Cooler Express uses. It is a nice enclosure but lacks on the insulation and bolts that come with it. It has no heater.
The Vapo enclosure is a much more complete unit with excellent insulation and bolts and heater.

They are most definitely not the same. :)

Thx for your openion RUNMC :)

[HoriWanderFuLL]

Asetek charges around 135 Euro per socket kit.
maybe I should keep my spear seet and mod it to fit on my LD SS :)

Yes they do ..and its a small price to pay for a piece of mind and a good product..you can Beat them ..There the Leet evap head enclousers . :up:

[Nosfer@tu]

Yes they do ..and its a small price to pay for a piece of mind and a good product..you can Beat them ..There the Leet evap head enclousers . :up:

maybe ???

But they sell stuff that is not even tested.
Everything they make that regards a PCB is always released prior to testing.

This was the case with the CHillControll, I fellt that and the so called USB support did not excist, it only worked 1/10 when you passed 255 fsb :mad:

The update they made for it 1½ year later worked fine, Just send you CHillControll to us, when they recived it for updating they try and take money for it! WFT???????

Because of the first reversion of S775 I lost 1 motherboard and almost killed a cpu, it had rust and dark spots from condation!

The pumps with ressuar and PCB controll panel failed BIG TIME, they just stooped working and the fault rate WAS ENORMUS.

And the thing they call support is so bad I would be ashamed if it was my company!!!!

But fell free to call them LEET :p

[PhilM]

http://www.nt4s.co.uk/Components/CPU+Coolers/Water+Cooling+Accessories/

£55 for the Vapo 775 kit there (two posts on the same topic lol)

[HoriWanderFuLL]

maybe ???

But they sell stuff that is not even tested.
Everything they make that regards a PCB is always released prior to testing.

This was the case with the CHillControll, I fellt that and the so called USB support did not excist, it only worked 1/10 when you passed 255 fsb :mad:

The update they made for it 1½ year later worked fine, Just send you CHillControll to us, when they recived it for updating they try and take money for it! WFT???????

Because of the first reversion of S775 I lost 1 motherboard and almost killed a cpu, it had rust and dark spots from condation!

The pumps with ressuar and PCB controll panel failed BIG TIME, they just stooped working and the fault rate WAS ENORMUS.

And the thing they call support is so bad I would be ashamed if it was my company!!!!

But fell free to call them LEET :p

You cant blame Asetek for your condensation problems..:confused: you buy a Phase cooler and dont go buy the book your looking for trouble and you can exspect to blow your motherboard....:rofl:

i have currently got 3 phase coolers hooked up i dont ever see any problem with condensation..but it did take me a few years to work out a fine art on 100% airtightness....:yepp:

Aseteks support can be bad but if go to there site and ask for help on the Vapochill Forum MasterG :clap: will push it through and you will have response asap./few days..:clap: you could do the same instead of asking around here for info that dosnt relate to it....

Usb Trouble ??? Maybe you should lern how to fix a few things.Usb troubles over hi Fsb ? How is that Aseteks fault ???:rolleyes:

Pcb untested get with the times do you think the motherboard your using now was tested ??..i think Asus 2 week turn around is easier than testing :shrug:

Pcb Failing Yer i have had troubles like that as well Atm i have a CC on its way over and when i recieve it i was asked to send my dud 1 back ..Pretty good service i thought :up:

You should really look at the reasons of your troubles before you Flame a company..

If it was kayle or silencer or Gray would you be saying on this forums there units are :banana::banana::banana::banana: the condensation killed my Motherboard ?? :)

i doubt you would even have the courage to ...:shakes:

[HoriWanderFuLL]

http://www.nt4s.co.uk/Components/CPU+Coolers/Water+Cooling+Accessories/

£55 for the Vapo 775 kit there (two posts on the same topic lol)

PhilM thanks for the Link looks like good price compared to Aseteks web shop.
:clap:

[V2-V3]

It works great and has awsome compatibility, it might not look sexy but i imagine most people use that area of their budget to up their phase performance.

[Nosfer@tu]

You cant blame Asetek for your condensation problems..:confused: you buy a Phase cooler and dont go buy the book your looking for trouble and you can exspect to blow your motherboard....:rofl:

They forgot tomake room for the heater, thus the insulation inside the Socket kit was 2mm higher on 1 side then the other! = Air and space for condensation.

Aseteks support can be bad but if go to there site and ask for help on the Vapochill Forum MasterG :clap: will push it through and you will have response asap./few days..:clap: you could do the same instead of asking around here for info that dosnt relate to it....
What are you talking about ?
what is it I should ask asetek about that Im askin here?


Usb Trouble ??? Maybe you should lern how to fix a few things.Usb troubles over hi Fsb ? How is that Aseteks fault ???:rolleyes:

Once more you show how littel you know ;) This has a common problemwith S478 and the 8XX chipsets...
Going past a certin fsb meant that Aseteks controller lost the connection, everything else worked. but not the CC.
Also that the USB connection dident work was a very wide spread and genneral problem.


Pcb untested get with the times do you think the motherboard your using now was tested ??..i think Asus 2 week turn around is easier than testing :shrug:

Pcb Failing Yer i have had troubles like that as well Atm i have a CC on its way over and when i recieve it i was asked to send my dud 1 back ..Pretty good service i thought :up:

You should really look at the reasons of your troubles before you Flame a company..

If it was kayle or silencer or Gray would you be saying on this forums there units are :banana::banana::banana::banana: the condensation killed my Motherboard ?? :)

i doubt you would even have the courage to ...:shakes:

Im not sure you are so skilled as you claim, apparently you dont know what you are talking about or you have problems understanding my english.

And BTW, I have had PLENTY of experiance with Asetek mate ;)
And service is not a thing they know anything about, ergo when the product is not what it should be, I state my oppenion and if you want to call that flaming, Do so.

I call it frustration. because after speaking with support at asetek so many times, you get frustrated.

Tehy even try to charge people money for an update of the firmware, the update fixes problems the product has. It dosent give you more for you money. IT FIXES STUFF ;)

That is why it dosent cost money for a new bios, you already paid them.

[Nosfer@tu]

http://www.nt4s.co.uk/Components/CPU+Coolers/Water+Cooling+Accessories/

£55 for the Vapo 775 kit there (two posts on the same topic lol)

VERY CHEAP :)

[HoriWanderFuLL]

I think you need to stand on your own 2 feet more dude instead of complaining

:rolleyes:

why dont you sit in thought for 5 minutes and think how you could solve your problems!!!! ;)

You say heating element 2 mm out ?? :eek: You cant be seriouse !!!you own a Pair of Scissors :rofl: Cut it square or make sure you sat the thing in the correct way Little cutout in enclouser for the wires :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You would ask Asetek instead of here because you have the Suppoert of THERE Super Moderators !!! :up: :up: Who are there to help idiots like you :ROTF: :ROTF: .... who cant figure out scissors to trim off a bit of plastic would work..in saying this your the first one i have read or herd off that has had this problem...

O BTW you complain about my English :rofl:
Go and read your own Typing Fool....Then tell me you can understand half of it..Because i :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing cant ....:shakes:







They forgot tomake room for the heater, thus the insulation inside the Socket kit was 2mm higher on 1 side then the other! = Air and space for condensation.

What are you talking about ?
what is it I should ask asetek about that Im askin here?



Once more you show how littel you know ;) This has a common problemwith S478 and the 8XX chipsets...
Going past a certin fsb meant that Aseteks controller lost the connection, everything else worked. but not the CC.
Also that the USB connection dident work was a very wide spread and general problem.

O BTW you complaine about my English



Im not sure you are so skilled as you claim, apparently you dont know what you are talking about or you have problems understanding my english.

And BTW, I have had PLENTY of experiance with Asetek mate ;)
And service is not a thing they know anything about, ergo when the product is not what it should be, I state my oppenion and if you want to call that flaming, Do so.

I call it frustration. because after speaking with support at asetek so many times, you get frustrated.

Tehy even try to charge people money for an update of the firmware, the update fixes problems the product has. It dosent give you more for you money. IT FIXES STUFF ;)

That is why it dosent cost money for a new bios, you already paid them.

[Xeon th MG Pony]

Apparently you failed to read his post, & just imagined what he said. He was referring to you "horiwonderfull" not understanding his "Nosfer@tu" English, not commenting on yours.

If you tried discussing intelligently or politely it makes for a much cleaner flow of information. I understand his english just fine, why can't you? Adding more smilies does not improve your standing or make your argument solid or logical.

Do you have stock in the company or some thing?

[Nosfer@tu]

I think you need to stand on your own 2 feet more dude instead of complaining

:rolleyes:

why dont you sit in thought for 5 minutes and think how you could solve your problems!!!! ;)

You say heating element 2 mm out ?? :eek: You cant be seriouse !!!you own a Pair of Scissors :rofl: Cut it square or make sure you sat the thing in the correct way Little cutout in enclouser for the wires :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:

Sry mate, I think you misunderstod me. I never said anything abiut the heating element sticking out.
It was the foam of the socket kit that was sticking out, because of the Shell for the S775, you know the black plastik.
they dident make a hole for the connecters to be in ;)

You would ask Asetek instead of here because you have the Suppoert of THERE Super Moderators !!! :up: :up: Who are there to help idiots like you :ROTF: :ROTF: .... who cant figure out scissors to trim off a bit of plastic would work..in saying this your the first one i have read or herd off that has had this problem... :

maybe you should hide your frustration with me a littel better ;)
You will propperly not stay at this weebsite for very long with that tone.

Calling me an idiot and laughing at me migth be a bit over the ege dude!



O BTW you complain about my English :rofl:
Go and read your own Typing Fool....Then tell me you can understand half of it..Because i :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing cant ....:shakes:

I never compained, Go back and read what I wrote again.

[M.Beier]

I might be a bit slow...
But I think its quite obvious...?

You've asked a question, got quite a few replies why people like the product, still you complain, fine, thats your oppinion, everyone has a right to have one, however, why start being rude?

- And please, guys... HoreWanderFuLL, no need to go below the belt and pinpoint the errors in his English - and for you Nosfer@tu, quit threatening with ban from XS, since you have absolutly no authority.

In other words: KEEP IT CLEAN!

EDIT:
And yes, I have a certain interess in Asetek, however, that wont effect my statements!

[HoriWanderFuLL]

Yer Ok Sorry for below the Belt insults...I will try to be more carefull in the Future..


Maybe if your foam block is sticking out you can shave it back somehow ..:shrug:

Maybe just check for good insulation and Heaters are working before you kill anymore motherboards..heaters are Awsum idea for people like me who only use Phase cooling and leave there Pc at idle for Hours at a time...

My socket kits have a little cut out section for the heating element tab to fold down on so it dosnt pretrude the foam block :D

Maybe next time buy a Custom Phase cooling unit not a Asetek brand and im sure all your worries will go away :D

[Xeon th MG Pony]

Ah now see, is this not better :)

So from what I can tell Nosfer@tu your main issue is some design defects? Is it a universal problem or is it a chance issue that only some units are effected?

[Nosfer@tu]

I might be a bit slow...
But I think its quite obvious...?

You've asked a question, got quite a few replies why people like the product, still you complain, fine, thats your oppinion, everyone has a right to have one, however, why start being rude?!

Mind pointing out where is was rude ?

- And please, guys... HoreWanderFuLL, no need to go below the belt and pinpoint the errors in his English - and for you Nosfer@tu, quit threatening with ban from XS, since you have absolutly no authority.

In other words: KEEP IT CLEAN!


I dident! I said : maybe you should hide your frustration with me a littel better ;)
You will propperly not stay at this weebsite for very long with that tone.
EDIT: And yes, I have a certain interess in Asetek, however, that wont effect my statements!

You sent them an email asking for a vapo LS for free, Relax already :D

Yer Ok Sorry for below the Belt insults...I will try to be more carefull in the Future..


Maybe if your foam block is sticking out you can shave it back somehow ..:shrug:

Maybe just check for good insulation and Heaters are working before you kill anymore motherboards..heaters are Awsum idea for people like me who only use Phase cooling and leave there Pc at idle for Hours at a time...

My socket kits have a little cut out section for the heating element tab to fold down on so it dosnt pretrude the foam block :D

Maybe next time buy a Custom Phase cooling unit not a Asetek brand and im sure all your worries will go away :D

it is okay, I get pissed some times to :D ;)

I did not have "My socket kits have a little cut out section for the heating element tab to fold down on so it dosnt pretrude the foam block :D"

And I liked my LS, But the support was just to bad.
I had to speend more than 20 hours on the phone arguing with them.

But everything works now, so there is no reason not to buy it.

Im just a missurable dude that wants service :yepp:" heheh

BUT I ended up wanting a Custom clone of the Asetek mount :D

[M.Beier]

"You sent them an email asking for a vapo LS for free, Relax already "
First of all, not quite true :)
Second, please, re-read your posts, its quite obvious..

In danish we use the terms "Implicit & explicit sprogbrug"..

"Because of the first reversion of S775 I lost 1 motherboard and almost killed a cpu, it had rust and dark spots from condation!

The pumps with ressuar and PCB controll panel failed BIG TIME, they just stooped working and the fault rate WAS ENORMUS.

And the thing they call support is so bad I would be ashamed if it was my company!!!!

But fell free to call them LEET :p"

"Once more you show how littel you know"

"Im not sure you are so skilled as you claim, apparently you dont know what you are talking about or you have problems understanding my english."

-.-
But nevermind, no need to continue this, just keep it clean from now on, everything works more smooth when treating one another in a decent way.

[Nosfer@tu]

I got sucker punched QUITE alot, so rude wold not be the appropriate word for my response.

In English it is also implicit and explicit :)

[Shalamay]

What head do custom builders use? I'm not a big fan of the head on my mach 1. Its ok, but I think it could be improved upon.

[tim-]

shalamay:
chilly1,dimas, etc seems to be popular (search on this forum).
But many of us do our own heads as well, like me.

try to make your own head, it's more fun that way.

[HoriWanderFuLL]

i actually modified my old vapo socket 939 head for my sons Phase unit..but after seeing the link above with how cheap they are in England i think i might get a couple sent over....I did email http://www.nt4s.co.uk/Components/CPU+Coolers/Water+Cooling+Accessories/

but i have no reply from them as yet....

[Ssilencer]

What head do custom builders use? I'm not a big fan of the head on my mach 1. Its ok, but I think it could be improved upon.


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=142650

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=95293

[Nosfer@tu]

Ah now see, is this not better :)

So from what I can tell Nosfer@tu your main issue is some design defects? Is it a universal problem or is it a chance issue that only some units are effected?


hehe yes that was the problem with the first reversion of the S775.

But even when they learned the problems they dident do a Recall to the best of my knowlige.

What head do custom builders use? I'm not a big fan of the head on my mach 1. Its ok, but I think it could be improved upon.

try to contact LittelDevil, or write at www.techsweden.org

You have LOOOTS of Single stage cooling folks in Sweeden :D
Maybe somone in your town has one :)


i actually modified my old vapo socket 939 head for my sons Phase unit..but after seeing the link above with how cheap they are in England i think i might get a couple sent over....I did email http://www.nt4s.co.uk/Components/CPU+Coolers/Water+Cooling+Accessories/

but i have no reply from them as yet....


Just remember that the Evap on the LS is a different size than some of the other vapos :)

[HoriWanderFuLL]

Just remember that the Evap on the LS is a different size than some of the other vapos :)


My Ls evap head is the same as My Xe2 ;)

My Sons Xe and My 2 PE stand alone units have the smaller evap heads...

Cheers Hori

[Shalamay]

How much better or more efficent are the custom heads? Can they just be swapped on? I'm in Cali, I think only Jinu is here and he's 4+ hours away. Thanks for all the replies and help.

[Nosfer@tu]

My Ls evap head is the same as My Xe2 ;)

My Sons Xe and My 2 PE stand alone units have the smaller evap heads...

Cheers Hori
Ahhh okay :D

How much better or more efficent are the custom heads? Can they just be swapped on? I'm in Cali, I think only Jinu is here and he's 4+ hours away. Thanks for all the replies and help.

No it needs some work and has to be soldered on.
I dont belive it does that much of a difference, but Im NOT the specialist regarding custom phase building :D

Create a new thread here in the Vapor Phase change and name it, tuning my SS?

That fill give you alot more info :D

[Shalamay]

Not trying to hijack your thread, just some questions I thought of while reading. I don't really want to tune it, I was just curious about custom heads.

[Pete]

Sslincer makes the nicest one going!

Astek, Cooler expresse and Chilly 1 is all the same just tweaks here and there.

LD does one

Dimas too

Poitres as well

Kayl all the way from Oz

Now it's your call to which ya want but the Vapo style works very well, more so on these sodding LGA775 sockets.

Just search or PM the guys that make them for photos.

Oh you've been told in lamens terms now, so stop the freaking :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:ing or it's hand bags at dawn!!

Chirst

[Nosfer@tu]

Not trying to hijack your thread, just some questions I thought of while reading. I don't really want to tune it, I was just curious about custom heads.

No problem at all :)

[Shalamay]

Thanks for all the info and the good thread.

[Nosfer@tu]

Thanks for all the info and the good thread.

Glad you think so :)