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This is Kinda funny. I have never in my time as a bencher experienced anything this hot. Time to design a new pot :)
You can read about it here: http://www.nordichardware.com/news,6331.html
sladesurfer
05-15-2007, 10:56 PM
This is Kinda funny. I have never in my time as a bencher experienced anything this hot. Time to design a new pot :)
You can read about it here: http://www.nordichardware.com/news,6331.html
Maybe they should have used this :D
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7756/beryllium20copper20tm72sk9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
dinos22
05-15-2007, 10:59 PM
Amazing!!!!
Nanometer
05-15-2007, 11:02 PM
That must weigh several tons lol.
Shintai
05-15-2007, 11:02 PM
Now thats just plain scary....One this is sure..it wont have a coldbug then. Because it cant get cold! :D (kidding)
theteamaqua
05-15-2007, 11:03 PM
wow !!! ..
btw with a good pot .. what kinda temp does the head of the pot get?? like -150C?? since Ln2 has temp of -210 to -196C
dinos22
05-15-2007, 11:10 PM
anyone else think that GFX card manufacturers are reaching the whole Intel Prescott era and will be looking to bypass the whole MHz race in favour of multiple cores :D
that would be interesting to see............dual core quad SLI or XF cards :D
Shintai
05-15-2007, 11:16 PM
anyone else think that GFX card manufacturers are reaching the whole Intel Prescott era and will be looking to bypass the whole MHz race in favour of multiple cores :D
that would be interesting to see............dual core quad SLI or XF cards :D
They already made prescott look like an innocent mobile chip.
Also multiple cores? GPUs are basicly like multicores already. Unlike CPUs, GPUs have been parallel for ages. So you could almost say 1 pipe=1 core.
But yes, something like SLI/CF on a card could offset it some. Tho you use way more silicon and cost goes up in a rapid pace.
dinos22
05-15-2007, 11:17 PM
They already made prescott look like an innocent mobile chip.
Also multiple cores? GPUs are basicly like multicores already. Unless CPUs, GPUs have been parallel for ages. So you could almost say 1 pipe=1 core.
But yes, something like SLI/CF on a card could offset it some. Tho you use way more silicon and cost goes up.
they are i know but you know what i'm getting at ;)
frankR
05-15-2007, 11:21 PM
1.2 Ghz wow!
RAMMAN
05-15-2007, 11:47 PM
finally a situation where liquid helium could prove useful :fact: .
Kunaak
05-15-2007, 11:56 PM
maybe time to design something that cools more then the core of the card.
NightCrawler™
05-16-2007, 12:14 AM
That's just insane.... 1.2Ghz and instant tropic temperatures in your room... :slobber:
ahmad
05-16-2007, 12:15 AM
I imagine benching with this thing would waste a LOT of liquid nitrogen. Meaning, you would need litres and litres of this stuff.
[XC] gomeler
05-16-2007, 12:44 AM
So what are we talking about, 350watts from the core alone? Current cascades are being tuned in the 250-300 watt range, guess it's time to bump up the requirements :p:
lawrywild
05-16-2007, 01:01 AM
What are the temps like with stock cooler? Must be like 100'C load or something?
sladesurfer
05-16-2007, 01:05 AM
The card would namely have had managed even higher clock frequencies if it wouldn't have been for the heat; it was too hot! As mentioned, we were using a solid copper container filled with liquid nitrogen with a boiling point of -196°C and yet this wasn't enough to cool the R600 beast. At idle the copper container's temperature rose from -90°C to around -70°C which made it impossible to push the frequencies any further.
:eek:
syne_24
05-16-2007, 01:14 AM
I guess the flame decals should have gave us a sign.. ;)
Starscream
05-16-2007, 01:33 AM
I guess the flame decals should have gave us a sign.. ;)
maybe they arent decals but burn marks :)
I have a 8800GTX that I have been runing over 1GHz core on for nature in 3DMark 01 and that was nothing compared to this. I think I used more then 10 liters in 50 mins (not kidding) on one 2900X.
A better designed pot would help, but then it needs to be a lot better.
Johnny Bravo
05-16-2007, 03:45 AM
Hmmm perhaps the requirement for a constant feed system has finally occurred. Rather than pouring maybe a system where the LN2 is under some pressure and forced to flow through a block. That "proof of concept" that Chilly1 did springs to mind....http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42978
Afterburner
05-16-2007, 04:59 AM
I bet you Legends cant wait for R650 @ 65nm..... :D
Shintai
05-16-2007, 05:41 AM
I bet you Legends cant wait for R650 @ 65nm..... :D
I think that accounts for almost everyone, legend or not ;)
Crossfire and a Quad...who thinks 1K PSUs are overkill now???
:eek:
Cobalt
05-16-2007, 06:21 AM
Me. We shouldn't need that kind of hardware ideally. Next gen of graphics will hopefully be a lot more efficient. Personally I wouldn't mind if performance of the next gen wasn't much of an improvement as long as we get some sensible power reqs. I know not everybody will agree with me there though.
Bounc3y
05-16-2007, 07:39 AM
is this what we call hot stuff? :p
MaxxxRacer
05-16-2007, 08:14 AM
I have a 8800GTX that I have been runing over 1GHz core on for nature in 3DMark 01 and that was nothing compared to this. I think I used more then 10 liters in 50 mins (not kidding) on one 2900X.
A better designed pot would help, but then it needs to be a lot better.
Looks like we need to put some real engineers on the job to create a new POT.
xlink
05-16-2007, 08:15 AM
Crossfire and a Quad...who thinks 1K PSUs are overkill now???
:eek:
me. unless you're ln2 benching, that system won't really draw more than 600-700W top.
Cooper
05-16-2007, 08:27 AM
me. unless you're ln2 benching, that system won't really draw more than 600-700W top.
ATI recommends 750W PSU for R600 CrossFire setup.
Just two GPUs consum ~ 440W w/o overclocking.
MarlboroMan
05-16-2007, 07:43 PM
finally a situation where liquid helium could prove useful :fact: .
[OFF] take a look on this video, they made solid n2 :eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egpMa8QpE3Y&mode=related&search=
theteamaqua
05-16-2007, 07:48 PM
then its sn2 lol solid nitrogen 2 !!!! thats like below -210 C
xpsentity
05-16-2007, 08:01 PM
lmao...
oh well. maybe next time eh... :slap:
MarlboroMan
05-16-2007, 08:07 PM
then its sn2 lol solid nitrogen 2 !!!! thats like below -210 C
its 4 Kelvin, −269 °C ;)
p8ntslinger676
05-16-2007, 08:43 PM
[OFF] take a look on this video, they made solid n2 :eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egpMa8QpE3Y&mode=related&search=
OMG in part 3 he pours liquid n2 on himself...look:eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLbqecC28oo&mode=related&search=
bigdaddy25fb
05-16-2007, 08:52 PM
Liquid Helium time....
xlink
05-16-2007, 08:52 PM
ATI recommends 750W PSU for R600 CrossFire setup.
Just two GPUs consum ~ 440W w/o overclocking.
explain to me where you're getting the other 300W or so? last time I checked it's all but impossible to max out the memory chipset and CPU simiultaneously. I've seen a few reviews where a largely stock single CF system drew ~ 400W. If you're stock voltage OCing you probably won't have issues with a high quality 600W PSU(PCP&C tends to underrate their units for example). Not that I'd personally restrain myself with one, I'd just buy according to my needs.
Daveb2012
05-17-2007, 02:53 AM
that is pretty crazy.
generics_user
05-17-2007, 04:09 AM
What are the temps like with stock cooler? Must be like 100'C load or something?
stock they'Re 70 MAX, 60 average
Cooper
05-17-2007, 05:02 AM
explain to me where you're getting the other 300W or so? last time I checked it's all but impossible to max out the memory chipset and CPU simiultaneously. I've seen a few reviews where a largely stock single CF system drew ~ 400W. If you're stock voltage OCing you probably won't have issues with a high quality 600W PSU(PCP&C tends to underrate their units for example). Not that I'd personally restrain myself with one, I'd just buy according to my needs.
R600 XFire, X6800, 2GB RAM and single 7200rpm HDD draws over 500W in Oblivion on high-res and so-so eye-candy. Change CPU to quad-core and put this rig on F@H and consumption will be enormous.
NH|Delph1
05-17-2007, 05:05 AM
R600 is quite OK when running stock, it just accelerates like no other when you raise the voltage and frequencies :)
//Andreas
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