View Full Version : Sony posts largest quarterly loss in 4 years: Blames PS3 failure
WillyWonka
05-15-2007, 07:29 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=aTVZj2sgVtvk&refer=asia
Chewbenator
05-15-2007, 07:53 PM
At least they are not blaming someone else.
ahmad
05-15-2007, 08:05 PM
http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/captainobvious-30189.jpg
Captain obvious to the rescue.
irev210
05-15-2007, 08:35 PM
this is dumb, the more PS3's they sell, the more money they lose right now lol
When better games come later this year and a price cut, i think PS3 will improve.
nn_step
05-15-2007, 08:38 PM
may this trend continue till Sony's death
Revv23
05-15-2007, 08:59 PM
it kind of makes me sad. on one hand i am glad to see the PS3 tanking because i dont like it as a product. On the other the playstation has always been something i loved and i makes me sad to see the death of what was once so good.
fhpchris
05-15-2007, 09:19 PM
Glad to see the death.
GT5 on Xbox 360 :)
MaxxxRacer
05-15-2007, 10:02 PM
not much of a shock really
xlink
05-15-2007, 10:55 PM
Sony Vs. Nintendo...
sony has mostly been an ass compared to N.
on the other hand atleast they don't censor so much...
perkam
05-16-2007, 03:48 PM
Eh...wait for 2009....Billy Gates will be pressuring bungie to come out with a Halo 4 cos the PS3 will be $299.
Perkam
Zytek_Fan
05-16-2007, 04:35 PM
This was probably obvious to all of us already :p:
Haltech
05-16-2007, 11:27 PM
i give sony 3 more years before they are purchased... all of their products pretty much suck. Overpriced, under par features and build quality is going down the tubes.
The PS3 was a flop when they decided to shove blueray down everyones throat. HDCP issues and blaming it on the TV manf''rs instead of owning up to the problem on their end. If they would stick with the standard for it, it would work. People like Westinghouse and Sharp have gone out of their way to help sony resolve the issue, but claim the tv guys arent following the standard. lol
comrad
05-16-2007, 11:46 PM
Sony isn't going anywhere.
b0bd0le
05-17-2007, 12:08 AM
i give sony 3 more years before they are purchased... all of their products pretty much suck. Overpriced, under par features and build quality is going down the tubes. lol
sony's other lines are doing quite well...
their cybershot & bravia line up continues to outsell/outperform their competitors
i guess the alpha dslr totally blows and their SXRD tvs & XBR lcds suck amirite?
i guess that's why the critics love them?
i guess that's why the alpha won camera of the year?
ahmad
05-17-2007, 02:06 AM
Ok honestly, the sony cameras are really, really bad. And I am not even in expert in the field :(
Haltech
05-17-2007, 09:58 AM
sony's other lines are doing quite well...
their cybershot & bravia line up continues to outsell/outperform their competitors
i guess the alpha dslr totally blows and their SXRD tvs & XBR lcds suck amirite?
i guess that's why the critics love them?
i guess that's why the alpha won camera of the year?
Youre kidding me right? Their XBR2 and 3 LCDs suck, have ghosting/clouding issues and cant touch the Sharp Aquos D92 series with a 10 foot pole! What critics are you referring to bud? And about the Bravia line out performing other brands, where are you getting this information? There would be alot of us getting a chuckle out of your post over at AVSFORUM :ROTF:
LordofDoom
05-17-2007, 12:09 PM
I love how they say that the PS3 was going to be the most godly thing ever. Then they admit it was the worst thing ever.
CrimInalA
05-17-2007, 01:30 PM
great ,
i not only dislike sony for their overpriced goods . Their products may look nice from the outside but when you look further at the used technology it's not worth the price .
Their product support is one of the worst . keep your creditcard ready when you call them !
and they are way too full of themselves .
i just never ever buy sony products anymore since i called their support line a few times :clap:
keep going Sony .
Zytek_Fan
05-17-2007, 04:01 PM
sony's other lines are doing quite well...
their cybershot & bravia line up continues to outsell/outperform their competitors
i guess the alpha dslr totally blows and their SXRD tvs & XBR lcds suck amirite?
i guess that's why the critics love them?
i guess that's why the alpha won camera of the year?
Sony fanboi alert.
Seriously Sony cameras suck. Nikon and Canon cameras are far better.
Canon Digital Rebel FTW!!!
JargonGR
05-17-2007, 04:03 PM
sony's other lines are doing quite well...
their cybershot & bravia line up continues to outsell/outperform their competitors
i guess the alpha dslr totally blows and their SXRD tvs & XBR lcds suck amirite?
i guess that's why the critics love them?
i guess that's why the alpha won camera of the year?
Sony desereves to die for they way they treat people through awful tech support (at least in my country), and ridiculously overpriced products compared to their competitors.
Cybershots? Lol is this a joke?
TVs? Maybe you should pay a visit to AVSFORUM - OVERPRICED
I am so glad I went with the new SAMSUNG LEM86 (TULIP) 52" screen for 3600 Euros, instead of the 52" inch Sony for 5000 Euros while beeing a worse product in many ways. Why do they want me to pay 1400 more for a product that is worse?
Well it is time for all to know how cheatful SONY is and realise that their mistakes are not for us to pay.
NOTE: I never owned a SONY product.
Metroid
05-17-2007, 04:41 PM
Well now the only thing missing is Sony to blame Nintendo for its mistakes. Kind funny if you look an year ago.
Anavel0
05-17-2007, 05:13 PM
Ok honestly, the sony cameras are really, really bad. And I am not even in expert in the field :(
No joke. My dad has one and it's crap. He was also talked in to buying a Sony Wega 50" LCD TV, god it needs to die in a fire. I show it to all my friends and they can't believe how bad it is. The picture is pixelated all to hell. Then I show them my 40" Panasonic LCD TV, which is 3 years older, and it looks years better than the Sony. And both TVs are on HD cable.
b0bd0le
05-18-2007, 01:10 AM
LOL
http://www.popphoto.com/popularphotographyfeatures/3440/the-camera-of-the-year-2006.html
you are right, sony camera's do suck lol
http://www.soocool.com/gallery/photos/exhibitlarge/Camera_of_the_Year_2006.jpg
CNET editors' review
Excellent
8.2
out of 10
The good: Reproduces deep blacks with excellent shadow detail; picture stays true from off-angle compared to other LCDs'; myriad picture controls; resolves every detail of 1080p-resolution sources; superb connectivity with three HDMI inputs and a PC input; unique, eye-catching styling; optional designer-colored bezels.
The bad: Expensive; subpar picture via standard-def inputs; wider than many LCDs; no picture-in-picture.
The bottom line: Sure the high-end Sony KDL-40XBR2 offers a commendable picture with more tweaks than you'll ever use, but let's face it: style is this LCD's main weapon.
Sound & Vision 2006 Editors' Choice Awards
continued
Sony KDL-40XBR2 40-inch LCD HDTV
November
Sony KDL-40XBR2 40-inch LCD HDTV
0702_edchoice_videoThe year 2006 marked a turning point — and I'm not referring to the recent congressional elections. I'm talking about the video performance of LCD TVs finally starting to catch up with other display technologies. As the first-ever LCD model to receive an S&V Editors' Choice award, Sony's KDL-40XBR2 ($3,500) racked up that honor by putting out a picture discerning viewers can hang their hats on. The biggest advancement here is in the set's handling of dark images: Even the gloomiest movies show rock-solid blacks and a high level of shadow detail. And the plentiful picture adjustments, including a variable backlight and flexible color-temperature and gamma settings, all pitch in toward achieving great performance. When you add features like 1080p resolution, automatic contrast enhancement for daylight viewing, and a side-panel HDMI input for plugging in a PlayStation 3, Sony's 40-inch LCD, while far from being the most affordable model in its size range, is definitely the most desirable.
sonystyle.com
— Al Griffin
you guys are right
cnet, popular photography, sound & vision don't know what they are talking about
it is the armchair fanboi who truly knows the products.
yup, im sure i every avs reader boycotts/never buys a sony product. I'm sure you can't find anyone on the avsforums willing to pick up a pearl or a ruby.
NOR, do i say sony is perfect
obviously they're not even :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing close
HOWEVER
you losers need to get off your "i hate sony" bandwagon/highhorse
give credit where credit is due
Verisimilitude
05-18-2007, 05:28 AM
I will give credit where it is due. I will also say that on the product which required complete innovation (LCD TVs and Cameras have a nice track record) they failed pretty completely. Mostly because of bad press, weird product decisions (I hate the fact that Blu-Ray is alive) and slow time to market.
ahmad
05-18-2007, 06:34 AM
Ok bobdole, we need to clear somethings here. When people here say their camera's suck, we refer to the mainstream segment, ala sub $300 cameras. This is an $800 camera in which the main design came from a Minolta model after sony bought the company. They added some additional bells and whistles, but thats about it. Minolta was a pioneer in cameras, no doubt about that.
And that TV, one site gave it 8.2 out of 10. I really do not want a $3000 item that I buy be rated 8.2/10. Not also that, but other sites give it as low as 7.
I am trying to be realistic here nothing personal :)
DTU_XaVier
05-18-2007, 06:43 AM
Raise hand all who didn't see this coming...
Nobody?? Good...
I wonder: How could sony work on that console for 7! years and not realise something would be wrong in the end... The X360 had real-life showings and screenshots at the time when Sony was still selling pre-rendered stuff off as the real deal... Why didn't they just say "fine, let's back it up for a second, and have a GOOD look at the :banana::banana::banana::banana: we've been pulling"?
And Bobdole:
Capt. Insano was proven a scammer ½ year ago... Change your sig man ;)
Best Regards :toast:
Ub3r-L33ch
05-18-2007, 07:10 AM
I'll be looking for you guys in a year or so when the PS3 is doing well and everyone is praising it again. Sony will never die.
I'll admit they are doing bad right now, but not nearly as bad as people are trying to make it out to be. Yes a large quarterly loss is bad, but most of the time that never causes a company to go out of business. I think it is like George Bush in that respect. Yes he is doing a bad job, but alot of good things have come out of his administration no one knows about because people are dumb and they form their opinions of him based on what everyone else says. So yeah Sony is doing bad, but it is not the end of them or the PS3, get used to it.
Flak Monkey
05-18-2007, 02:48 PM
I can't believe that they are only sucking as bad as they did 4 years ago. That is almost promising news for the company.
Die sony, die.
Zytek_Fan
05-18-2007, 03:28 PM
Ok bobdole, we need to clear somethings here. When people here say their camera's suck, we refer to the mainstream segment, ala sub $300 cameras. This is an $800 camera in which the main design came from a Minolta model after sony bought the company. They added some additional bells and whistles, but thats about it. Minolta was a pioneer in cameras, no doubt about that.
And that TV, one site gave it 8.2 out of 10. I really do not want a $3000 item that I buy be rated 8.2/10. Not also that, but other sites give it as low as 7.
I am trying to be realistic here nothing personal :)
Then you look at the Canon Digital Rebels and they're all rated 9.0 out of 10 :D
Kingcarcas
05-18-2007, 04:31 PM
The only thing good that they make is the XBR LCDs:yepp: But i'll still pick-up a PS3 when it's $200.
topaimz
05-18-2007, 04:45 PM
South Korean Companies are w00ping Japanese Companies in the arse!
Samsung, LG, etc. pwns Jap companies!
Ub3r-L33ch
05-18-2007, 05:58 PM
Yup, Sony TVs really are plain shlt:
http://www.tech.co.uk/home-entertainment/tv/tvs-displays/features/top-10-high-definition-tvs
They only managed to get 3 TVs out of the Top 10... :rofl: ROFLMAO :rofl: , just 3!? Give me a break ....
ONLY 3 of them here on the top of the chart too, out of ALL the TVs on the site:
http://reviews.cnet.com/4566-6475_7-0.html?tag=dir&sort=edRating7+desc
Gawd damn Sony, you need to make something better ... pieces of shlt
At least they managed to get 4 here:
http://www.epinions.com/Flat_Panel_Televisions/show_~top_sellers
But that still doesn't mean SH*T!!!!!11111 :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
HOW ARE THEY STILL IN BUSINESS!?
I hope one day Sony is able to make something worth a shlt!!
b0bd0le
05-19-2007, 01:31 AM
Yup, Sony TVs really are plain shlt:
http://www.tech.co.uk/home-entertainment/tv/tvs-displays/features/top-10-high-definition-tvs
They only managed to get 3 TVs out of the Top 10... :rofl: ROFLMAO :rofl: , just 3!? Give me a break ....
i'm going to assume you're being sarcastic...
because those 3 tvs you mention are in the top 5, with the #1 spot belonging to sony...
let me join in on the sony bashing:
HAY GUYS SONY SUCKS ROFLMA LOL G1 LOLNINOMAAAMOMGAMIRITE
ahmad
05-19-2007, 05:30 AM
HAY GUYS SONY SUCKS ROFLMA LOL G1 LOLNINOMAAAMOMGAMIRITE
Fascinating.
Shintai
05-19-2007, 06:32 AM
Raise hand all who didn't see this coming...
Nobody?? Good...
I wonder: How could sony work on that console for 7! years and not realise something would be wrong in the end... The X360 had real-life showings and screenshots at the time when Sony was still selling pre-rendered stuff off as the real deal... Why didn't they just say "fine, let's back it up for a second, and have a GOOD look at the :banana::banana::banana::banana: we've been pulling"?
And Bobdole:
Capt. Insano was proven a scammer ½ year ago... Change your sig man ;)
Best Regards :toast:
It seems to be a problem for quite a few technology companies these days.
MS used 5-6 years and 40billion$ on Vista. Yes its better than XP. But its a gazillion miles away from being worth that and all those manhours.
ATI with R600 and RD600, hardly need to step more in that.
MMOs and normal games is something catastrophic in these terms.
Bluray vs HD-DVD. Its like 2 4year old fighting and cant get along in kindergarden. And we waste time and money on both, getting delays in terms of implementation and people that are affraid to buy the potential loser.
And the list could basicly continue forever.
I think the problem is, that in the technology sector we forget to look on what we actually need and how it should be done. Too much fast and dirty methods to ruin it. Like lots of GFX, no gameplay in new games. Exotic semi useless consoles with tech you never gonna use. Features and such cut from MMOs, OS, applications, products to reach a set timeline. And companies putting up bigger breads than they can bake :ROTF:
Ub3r-L33ch
05-21-2007, 07:37 AM
i'm going to assume you're being sarcastic...
because those 3 tvs you mention are in the top 5, with the #1 spot belonging to sony...
let me join in on the sony bashing:
HAY GUYS SONY SUCKS ROFLMA LOL G1 LOLNINOMAAAMOMGAMIRITE
Why would you think I am being sarcastic? Everyone knows Sony is pure SH*T!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111one1111111 Just because every review shows they have 3-4 TV's in the top 10 doesn't mean jack ROFLMAOBBQWTF!!!!!!!!111111111one111111. Who cares if they have reigned supreme with the Playstation for over 10 years, they are still just SH*T!!!!!! and we all know it!!!!! And just because they are still in business doesn't mean jack either!!!!!1111111111 .... what a nub.
So in case you guys still don't get it: SONY SUXXORS HARD LOLZ WTFBBQ LOLLERSKATES LONG LIVE XBOX AND NINTENDO HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!11111111111one!1111111
//porre
05-21-2007, 07:43 AM
Why would you think I am being sarcastic? Everyone knows Sony is pure SH*T!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111one1111111 Just because every review shows they have 3-4 TV's in the top 10 doesn't mean jack ROFLMAOBBQWTF!!!!!!!!111111111one111111. Who cares if they have reigned supreme with the Playstation for over 10 years, they are still just SH*T!!!!!! and we all know it!!!!! And just because they are still in business doesn't mean jack either!!!!!1111111111 .... what a nub.
So in case you guys still don't get it: SONY SUXXORS HARD LOLZ WTFBBQ LOLLERSKATES LONG LIVE XBOX AND NINTENDO HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!11111111111one!1111111
maybe you should learn how to use a keyboard,, i can see u're hitting the 1 and ! very often and that can only be by mistake because everyone knows how to write like normal people
regards
Ub3r-L33ch
05-21-2007, 03:43 PM
maybe you should learn how to use a keyboard,, i can see u're hitting the 1 and ! very often and that can only be by mistake because everyone knows how to write like normal people
regards
I dont know how to write like a normal people cuz I'm a fukking retard that hates $ony cuz everyone says I'm supposed to!!!!1111one111 DEE DEE DEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't form my own opinion about things I just go by what the people on the internetz tellz me to think ... XBOX 4LYFE YO WTFBBQ!!!!!111 :up:
vitaminc
05-21-2007, 04:16 PM
South Korean Companies are w00ping Japanese Companies in the arse!
Samsung, LG, etc. pwns Jap companies!
guess its time for Jap government to take a huge loan from IMF and lend it out free to Sony, aka corean style.
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