View Full Version : Intel to Cut Prices Sooner Than Expected - Already on July 22
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=789466&starttime=0&endtime=0
As reported before, Intel has had hinted a price drop in Q3, expecting a second price drop someday in August and September. However, the exact date turns out surprisingly on July 22 as the first hand information we have received. undoubtfully, the move give certain impact on the sales of AMD processors. Not until the release of next-generation AM2+ processors, it’s hard for AMD to get profit from their existing products.
These are the same price cuts that wer'e reported before(Q6600@$266 Etc..) - but now they are scheduled to come earlier on July 22, instead of later August\September, In order to put more pressure on AMD.
Projected Price-Cuts:
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6676/intefy2.png
That cheap Quad is going to be Irresistible if by that time as assumed K10 is still pushing it.
But I hope it would make AMD push the ramp on K10 faster for a better competition. Nice times coming ..
I can hear Intel's war cry.
"Death to AMD!!!"
Maybe this will push AMD to release some benchmarks. BTW, isn't this a couple days after penryn NDA ends?
Periander6
05-14-2007, 09:51 AM
Are they binning so well that they can sell the 3Ghz 6850 for only $266, or is it that there will there be an "added factor" come July 22? Hmmmm....
lowfat
05-14-2007, 09:56 AM
Very interesting :) Isn't July 22nd the same day the Penryn NDA lifts too?
Periander6
05-14-2007, 10:00 AM
Very interesting :) Isn't July 22nd the same day the Penryn NDA lifts too?
Close, it reportedly lifts July 15.
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/31804/135/
triple_A
05-14-2007, 10:00 AM
W00t i can smell my future Q6600 allready :)
Fr3ak
05-14-2007, 10:06 AM
E4500 ^ ^
That means overclocking in even cheaper mainboards :)
Good to see that ultra low budget overclocking will be back again.
The QX6600 for that price is really a very nice thing.
xoqolatl
05-14-2007, 10:09 AM
It's far better news than Barcelona running Windows task manager, or 45nm silicon.
deathman20
05-14-2007, 10:15 AM
Damn, that was very quick. Wonder if they speed it up because the transition to the 45nm is going better? Ah can only hope.
That quad core though is so tempting.
XS Janus
05-14-2007, 10:16 AM
I must resist not to buy this baby for 266$, must hold on until penryn arrives....
hmm I can see a quad core in my future :P
They Q6600 are bad overclockers, new 45nm will be better choice ...
gOJDO
05-14-2007, 11:07 AM
WOW!
Q6600 enters my rig this summer.
XS Janus
05-14-2007, 11:09 AM
I bet that by the time yorkfield hits the shelves Intel will be sellin his last stockpile of kentsfields.
syne_24
05-14-2007, 11:10 AM
They Q6600 are bad overclockers, new 45nm will be better choice ...
I think they are okay at overclocking. You have the usually bad batches here and there but usually 3.3-3.6 is doable. My only complaint is they run pretty hot and somewhat power hog. I'm hoping Yorkfield will have some improvements in those area. But at $266 for a quad core is pretty dang sweet. :)
Order
05-14-2007, 11:17 AM
They Q6600 are bad overclockers, new 45nm will be better choice ...
Mine is stable at 3.4
bloodbanger
05-14-2007, 11:20 AM
@FACE:you are my hero...i just asked about any dates for the new price-cuts in Q3(in the intel-section),and now you post this news:woot: :woot: :banana: :banana: :banana: :toast:
Jamesrt2004
05-14-2007, 11:21 AM
W00t i can smell my future Q6600 allready :)
Amen Brother :D
bloodbanger
05-14-2007, 11:26 AM
what's the best choice?Q6600 or E6850??
Kanten
05-14-2007, 11:52 AM
Hmmm...Q6600 is looking mighty tempting. Is Adobe Premiere 3 going to take full use of four cores? If so, I may think of picking one up and using my E6600 to revive my Crossfire system.
CaNNibaL
05-14-2007, 11:56 AM
Q6600 is a quad, E6850 a dual, but as it was said, Q6600 overclocks nice, so i would go for a Q6600, for the same price...
Thats going to be some awesome price drops.
The 6850,6750 ? Where are they avaible at? I havnt seen those?
@FACE:you are my hero...i just asked about any dates for the new price-cuts in Q3(in the intel-section),and now you post this news:woot: :woot: :banana: :banana: :banana: :toast:
Hey, thanks :cool: , but really no need to thank me, HKE are one of the better sources out there.
Consistent, professional, high quality and almost always get everything correct. :toast:
safan80
05-14-2007, 01:29 PM
wasn't the Q6600 suppose to be $266 back in january? I want AMD to release their quad core already so prices can drop like a rock.
DeepThought86
05-14-2007, 01:35 PM
Well, looks like either Intel has their hands on some Barcelona systems and is running scared OR Penryn is shaping up really good
Or both.
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=789466&starttime=0&endtime=0
These are the same price cuts that wer'e reported before(Q6600@$266 Etc..) - but now they are scheduled to come earlier on July 22, instead of later August\September, In order to put more pressure on AMD.
XS Janus
05-14-2007, 01:41 PM
I would like to ask AMD if it is possible to make pricecuts on vaporware :D
No pun intended...
bloodbanger
05-14-2007, 01:46 PM
Q6600 is a quad, E6850 a dual, but as it was said, Q6600 overclocks nice, so i would go for a Q6600, for the same price...
Isn't a E6850 a better choice due to the 1333FSB?It's not that i'm a die-hard o'c-er,i just want the best bang for the buck.And it seems that a Q6600 runs very hot....;)
I will just wait for Penryn.. My rig does suck enough power as it is…
It would be a shame wasting money when I have a P5K-Dlx coming in..
Frank M
05-14-2007, 02:06 PM
E4500 ^ ^
That means overclocking in even cheaper mainboards :)
Good to see that ultra low budget overclocking will be back again.
Just wait for E2160 (~4300 with half cache) :D
Supposed to be released in June (the 4th?) at a price of $84/1000....
Shintai
05-14-2007, 02:11 PM
wasn't the Q6600 suppose to be $266 back in january? I want AMD to release their quad core already so prices can drop like a rock.
No, we just knew the Q3 price there.
Shintai
05-14-2007, 02:12 PM
Latest news, Hector pissed his pants again.
Aslong as nobody dies, this is perfect for us consumers. A clean win/win :D
gdogg
05-14-2007, 02:14 PM
This is very good news with the q6600. Something to hold me over until cheaper penyn's make it for my christmas or new year.
If amd doesn't impress me that is.
For $266 its just too good to not buy one imo.
Krizby87
05-14-2007, 02:49 PM
sweet damn, just in one year the prices of the Core 2 Duo CPUs drop down to 1/4 of their originals price, is Intel trying to defy Moore's Law or what :D.
clayton
05-14-2007, 04:16 PM
Gaming-only purpose will do fine with dual cores. Quad core is nearly useless/overkill in this realm.
theteamaqua
05-14-2007, 04:19 PM
yes Q6600 for only $266 bux
personally i was waiting for Barcelona, but screw that ... stop showing us 45nm wafers or 8 core task manager ... and keep delaying stuff
also look what they did to R600
HousERaT
05-14-2007, 04:26 PM
July is going to be a fun month.
deathman20
05-14-2007, 04:31 PM
Gaming-only purpose will do fine with dual cores. Quad core is nearly useless/overkill in this realm.
Ya but some games will utilize the Quad Core so its not overkill. Expecially if thats what you play alot.
NaeKuh
05-14-2007, 05:35 PM
I can hear Intel's war cry.
"Death to AMD!!!"
Maybe this will push AMD to release some benchmarks. BTW, isn't this a couple days after penryn NDA ends?
highly doubt it...
the QX6850 is still on NDA. And i know someone that has one, but wont tell me jack about it. *sigh*
[XC] hipno650
05-14-2007, 05:37 PM
i know what im buying:D 3 q6600's and an e6550:D w00t for the wcg team!!!:)
highly doubt it...
the QX6850 is still on NDA. And i know someone that has one, but wont tell me jack about it. *sigh*
It's just a 0.07GHz clock bump and 25% FSB boost. Maybe the secret is that it will be cool as in 45nm and um, 65W or something. Hmmmmm.
RAMMAN
05-14-2007, 05:54 PM
so all current intel cpus will be discontinued except for the q6600 :confused: .
elec999
05-14-2007, 05:58 PM
I finally afford a quad core.
Thanks
hmetro24
05-14-2007, 06:58 PM
what is the diference between the q6600 or e6850
which 1 is better to run programs games faster ....
more info plz
which run hotter ?
ZX7891
05-14-2007, 07:10 PM
anyone else think intel is feeling pressured with all the hype around all of AMD's new stuff
gdogg
05-14-2007, 07:15 PM
what is the diference between the q6600 or e6850
which 1 is better to run programs games faster ....
more info plz
which run hotter ?
q6600 = quad core
e6850 = dual core
Which is faster depends on the application or game.
If the app/game is multi-threaded and supports more than 2 thead, the quad core.
3dmark 06, the quad core.
If its single threaded or supports a max of 2 threads the e6850 is faster due to clock speeds being faster than that of the quad core.
bluep3ace
05-14-2007, 07:46 PM
what does TXT mean on the chart?
the thing that makes the 6550 and 6540 different.
Gaming-only purpose will do fine with dual cores. Quad core is nearly useless/overkill in this realm.
I second that
I prefer NATIVE dual with high clocks rather than Kentsfield
-tam2-
what is the diference between the q6600 or e6850
which 1 is better to run programs games faster ....
more info plz
which run hotter ?
The E6850 can be 25% faster in most stuff. The Q6600 can be 60% faster in some stuff (4x2.4 vs 2x3). E6850 is less hot.
irev210
05-14-2007, 08:30 PM
There really is nor eason for Intel to drop prices July 22nd, AMD quadcore isnt arriving until the end of this year.
The only reason why Intel is droping prices is because their yields at this point are awesome, and they are able to reduce prices and keep the same gross margin.
They just want to crush AMD.
Intel has had one heck of a run on 65nm. 45nm is going to be even better!
DeepThought86
05-14-2007, 09:03 PM
There really is nor eason for Intel to drop prices July 22nd, AMD quadcore isnt arriving until the end of this year.
Quad-core server chips are arriving Q3, Jul-Sep. Desktops are at end of year.
But yeah, they are willing to drop margins to hurt AMD it seems
p8ntslinger676
05-14-2007, 09:05 PM
i smell penryn in my near future(and/or q6600 cus it is cheap as dirt, lol) this must mean intel has something good to come from penryn :D
[XC] hipno650
05-14-2007, 09:11 PM
intel really got their stuff together after the pentuims. they have crazy good chips at good prices already and soon to be ridiculous prices. i bought my p4 for $375 CAD and soon i will be able to get a quad for $300 CAD:slobber: how times have changed:D
cursivearmy1
05-14-2007, 09:11 PM
One Q6600 for the gaming rig
then the e4300 goes into the hackintosh
Aweso!
I thought I'd have to wait until Q3 for $266 price cuts. Guess not.
THE JEW (RaVeN)
05-14-2007, 10:01 PM
what does TXT mean on the chart?
the thing that makes the 6550 and 6540 different.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4624
xVeinx
05-14-2007, 10:37 PM
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4624
Are any operating systems likely to take advantage of this is the question...
merlot_14
05-14-2007, 10:39 PM
Nice
Shintai
05-15-2007, 12:57 AM
Are any operating systems likely to take advantage of this is the question...
At some point. Its the famous chicken and the egg.
Metroid
05-15-2007, 02:36 AM
Well is a nice to move to Intel counter attack AMD 's Phenon but for me as I am a person that do not live in the past. So I will opt for Penryn or Phenon. The next battle begins with 2 P's.
There really is nor eason for Intel to drop prices July 22nd, AMD quadcore isnt arriving until the end of this year.
The only reason why Intel is droping prices is because their yields at this point are awesome, and they are able to reduce prices and keep the same gross margin.
They just want to crush AMD.
Intel has had one heck of a run on 65nm. 45nm is going to be even better!
you do realize if AMD doesnt sell enough procesors some day, that Intel will raise price?
AMD must survive.
wow I got E6600 for 400$ a few months ago, and in 2 months I will be getting the quad for 266
I feel raped
Shintai
05-15-2007, 03:28 AM
wow I got E6600 for 400$ a few months ago, and in 2 months I will be getting the quad for 266
I feel raped
E6600 for 400??
I bought mine for 315-320$ 10 months ago. You shop a very bad place it sounds.
gOJDO
05-15-2007, 04:16 AM
what is TXT?
Intel's Trusted Execution Technology encrypts everything
Viruses, malicious code, spyware and other security threats may become a past worry says Intel. According to Intel, its R&D team is hard at work on a technology called Trusted Execution Technology -- previously called LaGrande. Abbreviated as TXT, Intel's Trusted Execution Technology will use hardware keys and subsystems to control what part of a computer's resources can be accessed and who or what will be granted or denied access.
Going beyond the NX bit, or the Non-execution bit that is currently enabled inside recent processors from both AMD and Intel, TXT will bring a whole new dimension of security to PCs. In fact, TXT will also be able to work in a virtualized environment on systems with Intel's VT technology. Guest operating systems will be able to take advantage of features on a TXT-enabled platform.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4624
gOJDO
05-15-2007, 04:19 AM
wow I got E6600 for 400$ a few months ago, and in 2 months I will be getting the quad for 266
I feel raped
Me too. 10 years ago I paid $1500 for two Pentium2 333MHz.
E6600 for 400??
I bought mine for 315-320$ 10 months ago. You shop a very bad place it sounds.
price was ~340$ + 20% tax - IIRC it was about 410 USD
prices in europe suck really bad
haha LOL just checked - you can get a X2 6000+ for ~660$
I wonder if anyone actually bought one :D
Shintai
05-15-2007, 04:27 AM
price was ~340$ + 20% tax - IIRC it was about 410 USD
prices in europe suck really bad
haha LOL just checked - you can get a X2 6000+ for ~660$
I wonder if anyone actually bought one :D
Well, mine was ~315$+25% goods tax. But I didn´t include that. 340$ is still an awful lot if without tax.
XS Janus
05-15-2007, 05:08 AM
I agree with the statement that intel has no real reason to drop the prices this early, but one could expect them to grow their 45nm hardware compatible user base as much and as soon as possible.
U see amd has a potentialy dangerous upperhand their upcomig 4core will be drop in compatible with AM2 and a lot off people already have it.
Intel on the other hand needs to convince users to buy new boards just to be able to sell their 45nm parts, and the way theiy are going to do that is to make the offer as sweet as possible.
That may not mean much for current c2d users as they will be stuck with 965 boards but the will still be able to buy cheap quads very soon=1+ for Intel.
The real game is for those users that can't wait anymore and/or are buying a comp very soon. They WILL consider VERY hard getting a new P35 intel board and a cheap intel quad, and on top of that, they get futureproof with 45nm support, and these guys are the ones intel wants.
IMO they are playing this card thiss soon to reduce AMDs cheap upgrade strategy by as much as they can, and they'll six months to play the market this way. AMD can't do much more than hype up AM2 compatibility with K10 about it untill they release desktop K10.
Shintai
05-15-2007, 05:18 AM
I agree with the statement that intel has no real reason to drop the prices this early, but one could expect them to grow their 45nm hardware compatible user base as much and as soon as possible.
U see amd has a potentialy dangerous upperhand their upcomig 4core will be drop in compatible with AM2 and a lot off people already have it.
Intel on the other hand needs to convince users to buy new boards just to be able to sell their 45nm parts, and the way theiy are going to do that is to make the offer as sweet as possible.
That may not mean much for current c2d users as they will be stuck with 965 boards but the will still be able to buy cheap quads very soon=1+ for Intel.
The real game is for those users that can't wait anymore and/or are buying a comp very soon. They WILL consider VERY hard getting a new P35 intel board and a cheap intel quad, and on top of that, they get futureproof with 45nm support, and these guys are the ones intel wants.
IMO they are playing this card thiss soon to reduce AMDs cheap upgrade strategy by as much as they can, and they'll six months to play the market this way. AMD can't do much more than hype up AM2 compatibility with K10 about it untill they release desktop K10.
Who says penryn doesnt work in current Conroe boards?
This pricecut was also planned last year. We even knew prices back in january or before.
gOJDO
05-15-2007, 05:21 AM
I agree with the statement that intel has no real reason to drop the prices this early, but one could expect them to grow their 45nm hardware compatible user base as much and as soon as possible.
U see amd has a potentialy dangerous upperhand their upcomig 4core will be drop in compatible with AM2 and a lot off people already have it.
Intel on the other hand needs to convince users to buy new boards just to be able to sell their 45nm parts, and the way theiy are going to do that is to make the offer as sweet as possible.
That may not mean much for current c2d users as they will be stuck with 965 boards but the will still be able to buy cheap quads very soon=1+ for Intel.
The real game is for those users that can't wait anymore and/or are buying a comp very soon. They WILL consider VERY hard getting a new P35 intel board and a cheap intel quad, and on top of that, they get futureproof with 45nm support, and these guys are the ones intel wants.
IMO they are playing this card thiss soon to reduce AMDs cheap upgrade strategy by as much as they can, and they'll six months to play the market this way. AMD can't do much more than hype up AM2 compatibility with K10 about it untill they release desktop K10.
Finally someone gets it! :clap:
With the low prices AMD were forcing people to buy sAM2 platforms which will be compatible with their future CPUs. That way AMD will have a good base of CPU consumers on the market who will upgrade their systems in the following year.
Intel will play AMD's game and I think Intel will be more successful. They have faster CPUs, cheaper production and much higher production capacity.
L1m1t.NL
05-15-2007, 05:35 AM
Very interesting... if they are going to lower the price on the E4400, the E4300 will probably be discontinued. Too bad.
Ow well, the E4500 looks pretty good with it's 11x multi. I can already see some crazy clocks on that thing with the right motherboard and cooling. Great buy for people on a budget too. Well done Intel :clap:
Q6600 at $266, that is one sweet deal for people who want one. Very tempting indeed! :woot:
With Wolfdale and Yorkfield around the corner, it's already looking quite good for Intel. Just want to see some Agena vs. Yorkfield and Kuma vs. Wolfdale benches, ASAP! ;)
L1m1t.NL
05-15-2007, 05:43 AM
At VR-Zone, they have also posted some diagrams about the Intel price-cuts. Similar to those on HKEPC. But they also have the price-cuts of the Xeon- and the Mobile-CPU lines. Here they are.
Intel Mobile-CPU Price Cuts September 2007 (http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4980)
Intel Xeon Price Cuts Q2 2007 (probably also on 22nd of July) (http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4981)
Xeon X3210 (2,13GHz Kentsfield S775) for $224, an even cheaper Quad-Core! :woot:
Shintai
05-15-2007, 05:43 AM
The Pentium 21x0 series will takeover the E4300 place (at around 85$). Just with less cache.
Shintai
05-15-2007, 05:45 AM
Xeon X3210 (2,13GHz Yorkfield S775) for $224, an even cheaper Quad-Core! :woot:
Thats not a Yorkfield...
L1m1t.NL
05-15-2007, 05:48 AM
Thats not a Yorkfield...
My bad, edited. It's indeed not a Yorkfield, but a Kentsfield running at 8x266 (2.13GHz). Excuse me.
:slapass: <- Me... is that better?
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