View Full Version : Final Fantasy Party: What Remake The People Really Want
Metroid
05-12-2007, 09:07 PM
Final Fantasy IV? Nope! At the Final Fantasy Party, guests were invited to post notes on a giant board. The most popular request: Remake Final Fantasy VII. A next-gen version has been rumored for years, starting with a PS3 FF VII "tech demo" screened at E3 2005. Square-Enix has denied working on a next-gen Final Fantasy VII remake, but if these post-its asking for a next-gen FF VII are any indication, they'd be stupid not to.
http://kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/05/postitff7.JPG
I still think FFIV should had been chosen to make for PS3 and not DS, as for FFVII it is still very popular being in Japan or EU or USA, but being so hopeful I wonder if that will really come to the table.
really stupid if they are not making it considering how bad PS3 sales are
xlink
05-12-2007, 09:18 PM
ff6
I can see my post it on the wall.:woot:
I wonder if it is feasible to remake all the Final Fantasys and just throw them altogether on one disc.
Metroid
05-12-2007, 09:21 PM
really stupid if they are not making it considering how bad PS3 sales are
Well it would be a great boost on sales, Square is like any other company and if they do an agreement with Sony because that would really boost sales just like FF7 did for PS1. The problem is Square have become a big company and I am not sure if they would think in making FF7 for PS3 since the sales are not going well. So if Sony and Square make an agreement to cooperate both for PS3 sake would be nice anyway. I would buy for sure.
iddqd
05-12-2007, 10:35 PM
I'm not surprised that everyone wants seven. It was the first 3-d one, with somewhat defined characters, other than generic "Theif", "Figher", "Dragoon" types (sometimes with names attached to them such as "Locke the Thief").
That being said, it sucks. All final fantasy games do, in a way. They haven't really changed the gameplay at all since the first one. So what makes or breaks an FF at the end of the day? That's right, the story. Square tried to peddle slightly different versions of the same story with four crystals that must be restored by four heroes to beat the evil villain from FF1j-FF5j. And out of FF6 and 7, I really think FF6 has a much stronger plot... although again, there's captain evil. Er, Kefka. McEvilton. The game is somewhat enjoyable with a game genie code that removes all non-boss battles. (but would automatically assume you won them all). Some of the puzzles were actually challenging (read: not designed by and for retarded blind eight-year-olds).
I can't stand pressing "Fight->Monster1", "Fight->Monster2", "Magic->Heal->Entire Party", etc for the millionth time. It's not fun, it's a goddamn treadmill. Which brings me back to the point that the gameplay sucks.
People don't really want to play turn-based, stat-driven RPGs. They want fast, flowing action RPGs, a point which is clearly demonstrated by the overwhelming success of such games as Diablo (and any of its clones such as Titan Quest, etc..). Even the underdeveloped ones such as NoX got a spot in the sun.
It is also illustrated by the relative success of Lunar Knights and Castlevania (both action RPGs) over Final Fantasy Advance, an FF5j remake on the Nintendo DS platform.
So what conclusion can be derived from this? Little innovation is better than zero innovation. Animated action RPG was no possible back when FF1 was released, the best you could do was turn based. Square decided they were happy with this and failed to innovate, but someone else picked up (Blizzard) and cashed in on it. Perhaps one day someone else will decide to try something new.
I'm getting bored of the same game with different graphics.
Soulburner
05-12-2007, 11:37 PM
Did the above poster even play FF7?
The story was without a doubt the #1 best part about the game, with #2 being the materia system and #3 of course, the FMV scenes which were amazing for their time.
While I do think a remake would be awesome given all they have at their disposal today, you have to think of the "purity" of the original game. It sort of ruins it.
Maybe a FFVII-2.
RPGWiZaRD
05-12-2007, 11:50 PM
People don't really want to play turn-based, stat-driven RPGs. They want fast, flowing action RPGs, a point which is clearly demonstrated by the overwhelming success of such games as Diablo (and any of its clones such as Titan Quest, etc..). Even the underdeveloped ones such as NoX got a spot in the sun.
I personally completely disagree, I like turn based RPGs a lot more than action RPGs and IMO there's too many action RPGs and far too few for the PC platform. Luckily there's PlayStation...
iddqd
05-13-2007, 12:19 AM
Did the above poster even play FF7?
The story was without a doubt the #1 best part about the game, with #2 being the materia system and #3 of course, the FMV scenes which were amazing for their time.
While I do think a remake would be awesome given all they have at their disposal today, you have to think of the "purity" of the original game. It sort of ruins it.
Maybe a FFVII-2.
are we going to have a 6 vs 7 debate here?
(clearly, 6 is superior)
Metroid
05-13-2007, 01:58 AM
For me both games are awesome, but if I would choose one of them that one would be FFVI for being an astonishing game with rich elements, sad it was not a 3D game due to Super Nintendo capabilities, as for FFVII the game came with many innovations and ideas that is the why it became so popular and famous, as someone said it was the first Final Fantasy that was launched in many countries over the world. Sony made that to happen and I am very grateful for that, before that Final Fantasy series used to exist just in Japan and USA. I used to import Final Fantasy games from USA. The point is games that deserve a remake are games made for Super Nintendo, NES, Mega Drive or Genesis. A PS1 remake is not something necessary right now because those graphics are still good to be viewed. I really think they should not do a FFVII remake and go forward and make a FFVII-2. The original FFVII was too good to be true and I do not think would be wise to make a remake, but if they do a remake of course I will be the first to line up for it..
Fatal Error
05-13-2007, 02:28 AM
I like VII but VIII was the top episode of FF so bring a remake of VIII :D
Kanten
05-13-2007, 06:21 AM
I would think IV or VI would benefit a lot more from a remake than VII would. They weren't limited by the technology and presented 'VII' the way they ultimately would have intended, and a remake would feel little more than a graphics upgrade, whereas the earlier ones could get a complete revamp. They've already dragged the 'VII' name through the dirt with all the spinoffs, give the classics some recognition for a change. I'm starting to get tired with the rabid fanboyism.
Super strokey
05-13-2007, 06:41 AM
I like VII but VIII was the top episode of FF so bring a remake of VIII :D
8 was the worst FF, i hated that game and i have played ever single FF through but that one (except FF12 and 11). It is without a doubt teh second highest over rated FF of all time right after 7. Dont get me wrong 7 is a great game but its not as good as people say it is (i perfer 6 cause its just so damn good but to each his own). I think if they are gonna do a remake it should me chrono trigger but my guess is that we will see that on the DS or wii (or prehaps a VC release) before any other console due to sales.
Metroid
05-13-2007, 07:00 AM
8 was the worst FF, i hated that game and i have played ever single FF through but that one (except FF12 and 11). It is without a doubt teh second highest over rated FF of all time right after 7. Dont get me wrong 7 is a great game but its not as good as people say it is (i perfer 6 cause its just so damn good but to each his own). I think if they are gonna do a remake it should me chrono trigger but my guess is that we will see that on the DS or wii (or prehaps a VC release) before any other console due to sales.
Well it was just a Final fantasy party after all but for me the best RPG ever released was Chrono Trigger and I waited all these years if something would be greater than Chrono Trigger and every Final Fantasy after that was much lower to what I call the best RPG of all time. I wonder if Chrono Trigger one day will be a remake. I'm sad because Square Enix have become a Final Fantasy factory. There are many games that need a remake like Actraiser, Contra, Castlevania, Chrono Trigger and some Final Fantasies.
onewingedangel
05-13-2007, 07:07 AM
As much as I like ff7, I don't see the point in a remake. I'd much rather another original game, but perhaps with the materia system returning?
[XC] leviathan18
05-13-2007, 07:08 AM
contra was such a fgreat game.. and i love FFVII and FFtactics those next to zelda are the best games ever
Soulburner
05-13-2007, 08:45 AM
are we going to have a 6 vs 7 debate here?
(clearly, 6 is superior)
No, because I never even mentioned 6 in my post.
As much as I like ff7, I don't see the point in a remake. I'd much rather another original game, but perhaps with the materia system returning?
Yup, I think it would be much wiser to do a FFVII-2.
Revv23
05-13-2007, 09:28 AM
they already remade contra guys, its on ps2.
as for remaking a square game, crono trigger for sure would take the cake for me.
CBONE
05-13-2007, 09:33 AM
Again with FF7? It's long past time to "that'll do, pig" this game. How can people really want more and more of it? Isn't that well dry yet?
Was it really even that good? The story was sloppy spanish soap opera at best. It was fun, but it wasn't that great even among the FF series. It's just the one that everyone played.
They should just stop making new games and just release everything under the FF7 umbrella.
From the people that brought you FinalFantasy7...
Advent Resurrection Faith Demesne: FinalFantasy7 Part XXIX
Metroid
05-13-2007, 09:42 AM
But perhaps with the materia system returning?
The materia system was amazing. It surely gets my vote :)
xlink
05-13-2007, 10:22 AM
are we going to have a 6 vs 7 debate here?
(clearly, 6 is superior)
will agree...
Metroid
05-13-2007, 10:28 AM
Hot on the heels of the news that Final Fantasy IV is getting a 3d makeover for the DS comes the quiet launch of the Japanese website for the game. Now don't get too excited, there really isn't much there at the moment apart from a rather pretty opening animation and some soothing music. Although, I suppose calling it an animation is overstating it a bit. It's more like a pan over of a painting, part of which you can see above. You are then presented with the logo and a link to a fact sheet which is, of course, all in Japanese. Still, if you are a big Final Fantasy fan it's definitely worth a look see.
Final Fantasy IV Website (http://www.square-enix.co.jp/ff4ds/)
Source (http://kotaku.com/gaming/final-fantasy-iv/final-fantasy-iv-ds-website-opens-260032.php)
At last something :)
clayton
05-13-2007, 12:33 PM
Well, I really like Final Fantasy XII. The only FF game that is not turn-based. I hope the next installment lets you bring out at least 6 characters at once. Turn-based RPG is so dated now.
SnipingWaste
05-13-2007, 05:50 PM
What I would like to see is game releases for the PC and not just for consoles. I would be nice to see another FF Tactics because the first one was great and can't see why its stopped there.
mr_knowitall15
05-13-2007, 07:04 PM
I personally dont even play FF. But with my friends that do, im not surprised AT ALL that 7 is the popular choice. As for The PS3 vs. DS debate, How many people would buy a remake of an old game for 50 or 60 Dollars? The only way it would be worth it is if they made a super disk will like all the FF games of the past, since BR disks should have the capacity. The DS seems to be an ideal platform IMO. Enough power, portability, reasonable price for game.
vBulletin® v3.7.0, Copyright ©2000-2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.