Electricity Bills

[Chas_The_Man]

I got my electric bill today. It has a full month of folding on it.

GAGCK!

Its at least 75.00 over and above my normal bill. Thats with 2 rigs, a QX6700 and an E6700.

Anyone else chewing up electricity this much?

[mike047]

I got my electric bill today. It has a full month of folding on it.

GAGCK!

Its at least 75.00 over and above my normal bill. Thats with 2 rigs, a QX6700 and an E6700.

Anyone else chewing up electricity this much?

I have a 46 rig BOINC farm that cost about $400us a month to support. It seems high but there are some others here that spend many times that for crunching.

[KaptainBlaZzed]

SUCK:cord:

[[XC] riptide]

In Ireland where power is relatively expensive I'm looking at €150-200 for 2 months worth. Thats with a few rigs going non stop and a bit of gaming (X1900XT overvolted)

[Chas_The_Man]

Phew, I had no idea. Never thought about it much till I saw this bill.

[SparkyJJO]

Where do you live? That seems like an awfully big increase for just a couple systems!

[Chas_The_Man]

Im in Connecticut. Its about 11 cents per kwh plus distribution. I figured I was pumping about 400 watts, so thats about 300 KWH / month. No big deal 30 bucks.. plus distribution 25.. but Its a lil more I think. I guess the eight hard drives and 8 GB / Ram and the 7900's etc boost it a bit.

[Movieman]

Im in Connecticut. Its about 11 cents per kwh plus distribution. I figured I was pumping about 400 watts, so thats about 300 KWH / month. No big deal 30 bucks.. plus distribution 25.. but Its a lil more I think. I guess the eight hard drives and 8 GB / Ram and the 7900's etc boost it a bit.

I'm in NH, .145/kw...tested the cost of the 2 clover machines, they pull a solid 450 watts measured, app $100.00/month for those 2 machines alone.
Then we add in the DX3600, The DX2400, The Opty 266 and the P4-3200.
Can I mail you my $282.00 bill that I got yesterday?:D

[SoF]

last year in december I got a bill around 333€ ^^ Only a Celi 2 ghz rig but the compressorcooled X2 was eating the kwh :eek: Not sure what the small Dual 933 mhz PIII did but I stopped running 2 of the 3 machines to save me from more financial damage...

[mike047]

I'm in NH, .145/kw...tested the cost of the 2 clover machines, they pull a solid 450 watts measured, app $100.00/month for those 2 machines alone.
Then we add in the DX3600, The DX2400, The Opty 266 and the P4-3200.
Can I mail you my $282.00 bill that I got yesterday?:D

TRADE????:D

[Movieman]

TRADE????:D

Wiseas*!:D
My $282.00 was for 6 machines, your $400.00 is for over 40?
Go check the per KW/H price of your elec.
Mine is .145
Yours is what? Maybe 1/2 that?:p:

[أشرف]

I don't pay my bills, my dad does. Sometimes I check his bills, most of time it is around $300. I only run one PC that is on for 24/7. Or my mother probably uses a washing machine too much? :D

[nn_step]

well if you are concerned about your energy bill
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2c/Us_pv_annual_may2004.jpg

[mike047]

Wiseas*!:D
My $282.00 was for 6 machines, your $400.00 is for over 40?
Go check the per KW/H price of your elec.
Mine is .145
Yours is what? Maybe 1/2 that?:p:


.08:D46 boxes

[embeejay]

I won't go into pricing details since it's not comparable (I live in Denmark) but last year my electricity company told me I use more power than an average household of 5... and I live alone :P

[[XC] riptide]

I'm in NH, .145/kw...tested the cost of the 2 clover machines, they pull a solid 450 watts measured, app $100.00/month for those 2 machines alone.
Then we add in the DX3600, The DX2400, The Opty 266 and the P4-3200.
Can I mail you my $282.00 bill that I got yesterday?:D

Measured? Oh so you got the Kill-a-watt after all. :banana:

[alyyx]

My old roommate currently has an apartment that has the power bill included in the rent because they don't have the power split between 4 of the buildings apartments, I've been waiting on the day where he'll let me move all my rigs over there. Free power! :woot:

[IanY]

Im in Connecticut. Its about 11 cents per kwh plus distribution. I figured I was pumping about 400 watts, so thats about 300 KWH / month. No big deal 30 bucks.. plus distribution 25.. but Its a lil more I think. I guess the eight hard drives and 8 GB / Ram and the 7900's etc boost it a bit.

Who do you have as a utility? United Illuminating ? CL&P ? I have the same crap too, but that's Connecticut.

[Chas_The_Man]

CL&P Ian. And the bill will be smaller this month. The power here went out Wednesday at 4:00PM and just came back on now! Shoot, burnt 6 gallons of fuel in the generator though.

[IanY]

Sorry that your power went out!

[ColonelCain]

This harsh reality really makes me wonder how much it would cost to implement a solar system...

[Movieman]

This harsh reality really makes me wonder how much it would cost to implement a solar system...

Are you sitting down? I did some research into solar.
A grid tied(sell back the excess) solar system that will cover my needs easily(1500KWH/month) is $78,000.00 for the parts alone never mind the installation.
That works out to a 26 year payback for me.
I'm 55, so you see the dilemma. By the time I'd get a benefit I'll be 6 ft under.

[nn_step]

Are you sitting down? I did some research into solar.
A grid tied(sell back the excess) solar system that will cover my needs easily(1500KWH/month) is $78,000.00 for the parts alone never mind the installation.
That works out to a 26 year payback for me.
I'm 55, so you see the dilemma. By the time I'd get a benefit I'll be 6 ft under.

I'd love to see the math for that

[ColonelCain]

Are you sitting down? I did some research into solar.
A grid tied(sell back the excess) solar system that will cover my needs easily(1500KWH/month) is $78,000.00 for the parts alone never mind the installation.
That works out to a 26 year payback for me.
I'm 55, so you see the dilemma. By the time I'd get a benefit I'll be 6 ft under.

Thats exactly what I was thinking. While the world is trying to tell everyone to use alternatives, they don't see how much it would cost.
I just did a quick search, and to purchase a 110w solar panel (without anything else), would be $790. I don't even want to think of how much it would cost just to hook up one 500w system. They need to find cheaper ways to do this.

[Movieman]

I'd love to see the math for that


http://www.mrsolar.com/page/MSOS/PROD/ce/CE72180SB

[nn_step]

Do you really need 6.480 Kilowatts every hour?

[Movieman]

Do you really need 6.480 Kilowatts every hour?

My elec bill for last year(2006) was 1515KWH/month average..
I'll scan and send to you if you want..I'll also send the unpaid one if you want that too!:D
What we need in this country is for the govt to make a comitment to solar,wind,hydro,etc..
They talk and talk and talk but do nothing for the country at large.
Say it costs $100,000.00 a home for total solar as an example.
Drop $10 bil a year into a lottery.
$10 bil will do solar on 100,000 homes PER YEAR!
Do a 50% subsidy so that people will want to do it. Make it $$ feasible.
10 years you have 1 million homes not drawing on the current elec grid that is maxxed as it is. Also the savings in oil,coal and on the envirionment.
It's a win-win but since it doesn't make a politician rich it will never fly..
:soap:

[nn_step]

My elec bill for last year(2006) was 1515KWH/month average..
I'll scan and send to you if you want..I'll also send the unpaid one if you want that too!:D
What we need in this country is for the govt to make a comitment to solar,wind,hydro,etc..
They talk and talk and talk but do nothing for the country at large.
Say it costs $100,000.00 a home for total solar as an example.
Drop $10 bil a year into a lottery.
$10 bil will do solar on 100,000 homes PER YEAR!
Do a 50% subsidy so that people will want to do it. Make it $$ feasible.
10 years you have 1 million homes not drawing on the current elec grid that is maxxed as it is. Also the savings in oil,coal and on the envirionment.
It's a win-win but since it doesn't make a politician rich it will never fly..
:soap:

I think you missed the math a little bit. Your House doesn't consume 1515KW continuously, rather it consumes 1515KWH over the course of a month. Which is 2104.167w every hour. Or 4209w solar power (to deal with the lack of power production during night) Meaning that grid is triple what you need

[Movieman]

I think you missed the math a little bit. Your House doesn't consume 1515KW continuously, rather it consumes 1515KWH over the course of a month. Which is 2104.167w every hour. Or 4209w solar power (to deal with the lack of power production during night) Meaning that grid is triple what you need

Correct, and then you have to factor in where I live.
When I saw $78G's..I thought I made an error so I made a call to that company, didn't say what I found, gave him my location and monthly usage and he came back with the same numbers.
Now if I am wrong, then so is he and thats what he does for a living.
I hope your right. If I could do it for 1/3 that amount I would hit the bank tomorrow.

[nn_step]

well there is always the winter which I can't directly factor but if you could ask them to explain how they got their numbers it would make discussion easier...

[Movieman]

well there is always the winter which I can't directly factor but if you could ask them to explain how they got their numbers it would make discussion easier...

You got the number, call them, tell them you live 50 miles north of Boston,Mass and have a south facing house with no trees in the way and use 1515KWH/month and see what they tell you.:D
Time for sleep..Later pal..

[nn_step]

You got the number, call them, tell them you live 50 miles north of Boston,Mass and have a south facing house with no trees in the way and use 1515KWH/month and see what they tell you.:D
Time for sleep..Later pal..

looks like they don't want to talk at 2:50am but then again can you blame them?

[Movieman]

looks like they don't want to talk at 2:50am but then again can you blame them?

Call them tomorrow you putz!:rofl:
Ok, now I'm gone..JEEZ! You guys are brutal!

[nn_step]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnmvBzSg4QU

[[XC] riptide]

I think you missed the math a little bit. Your House doesn't consume 1515KW continuously, rather it consumes 1515KWH over the course of a month. Which is 2104.167w every hour. Or 4209w solar power (to deal with the lack of power production during night) Meaning that grid is triple what you need

You can't say that. I see this abused on this forum a lot. Watt is the rate at which power is used.. (or more accurately converted from one form to another)

You use KiloWattHours... ie 'units'. technically we should all be using Joules/KiloJoules etc. But it seems the power companies have us marketed up to use KWh.

Daves consumption is not too far out actually given that he's prolly wiping 800W-1kW at any given time with PC's. :D

[ctgilles]

We pay 3400$ each year on electricity (20000kWh), and that's without the computers. Solar energy is indeed a good alternative. Certainly here in Belgium: you get up to 50% of your investment back from the governement. But I would invest in the newer, higher-effeciency cells but their prices are still on the high side (too high compared to extra efficiency) (And then there are the non-Si based panels...)

Wish I had invested in some German solar energy companies... Their stock has gone through the roof since the rise and rise of solar energy. :shakes:

[[XC] riptide]

CG .. here in Ireland a lot of the PC/electrical stores are selling Solar units. Small ones mind you, but still I see a definite swing towards pushing solar power here.


EDIT: I think I'm gonna try and make a wind turbine as a little project for the summer. Get it to 12V and then have an inverter for 220V.

Anyone any ideas to get me started? I know the principles.. just the finisse of it.

[sc00p]

Well... I've worked at Kyocera for over 5 years... maybe I could come up with some staff discount from these (http://www.kyocerasolar.com/products/mygen.html) products ;)
Ooh wait... shait I quit at there just last year. Maybe I could go back there :shakes:

Still... look at Kyocera headquaters (http://global.kyocera.com/company/csr/others/solar/index.html) solarpower-system :p: :D

[nn_step]

just to throw a random fact out here http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/nn_step2/Hide/1Table3.gif

[Skillz]

I've thought about building a house, and including a solar power system in it.

At my apartment, I currently consume around 550 KW/h per month. (Last bill was for 19 days@499) so I'm pretty sure I could get something done with batteries and solar panels to generate enough power for pretty cheap. I live in the South too, so that should be another plus.

[serialk11r]

Movieman you are drawing an average of 2KW :eek:

[ctgilles]

Plants convert 90% of solar energy using quantum mechanics :eek: (see newest issue of Nature) Makes you kind of ashamed those 30% solar panels we have ;)
And still, the problem is not production as it's sufficient! The problem is storing it... We have to face it that batteries are just not good at storing electricity.

[nn_step]

Plants convert 90% of solar energy using quantum mechanics :eek: (see newest issue of Nature) Makes you kind of ashamed those 30% solar panels we have ;)
And still, the problem is not production as it's sufficient! The problem is storing it... We have to face it that batteries are just not good at storing electricity.

see above http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2228380&postcount=40

[serialk11r]

Plants convert 90% of solar energy using quantum mechanics :eek: (see newest issue of Nature) Makes you kind of ashamed those 30% solar panels we have ;)
And still, the problem is not production as it's sufficient! The problem is storing it... We have to face it that batteries are just not good at storing electricity.

And then you have the inverter :rolleyes:
Solar panels are damn expensive :( and then you have efficiency issues and the problem with the batteries being "full". Well if I were ever to have a crunching farm I'd do everything on a big scale, BIG evaporative cooling tower, big pump, watercooling on all of them, big aluminum rack for everything, gigantic fan and duct, solar panels and batteries but rigged up to provide DC power @ 12, 5, and 3.3 V to the farm :) (with regulation and all that :P)