Bootable Orthos

[Sailindawg]

I have the Ultimate Boot CD and it has a bootable version of most cpu stress programs. However, the program seemed slated for single cores.

Is there a bootable version of Orthos that can be run direct from an optical drive outside of Windows?

I have a bootable version of P-95, but it seems to only stress one core.

Thanks.

[Crisao23]

I've been looking for a tool like that for months. I know that OCCT has a so called Professional version which is bootable and OS independent.

But the author never answered my emails about it.

Unfortunately I don't have the needed skills to build one.

[typo_pl]

A long time ago I made changes for SP2004 to run from a BartPE CD (which should be similar to Ultimate Boot CD). Orthos should run the same way as SP2004 from a CD. The Prime95 code wants a place to write out some data, so a RAM disk is needed IIRC.

See http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=11220&hl=sp2004

[djagentorange]

This would be an amazing tool. Could save a lot of time with stress testing.

[Crisao23]

A long time ago I made changes for SP2004 to run from a BartPE CD (which should be similar to Ultimate Boot CD). Orthos should run the same way as SP2004 from a CD. The Prime95 code wants a place to write out some data, so a RAM disk is needed IIRC.

See http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=11220&hl=sp2004

I'll check that out. Thanks a lot.

[Sailindawg]

@typo_pl

I'm not a programmer and I'm kind of lost with your post's link. Could you either by pm or response here give me directions on how to use the code your reference? I'm also not sure how to integrate sp2004 into the BartPE disk. Can you please explain?

Thanks very much.

[Renfield]

Hello, Sailin. Could you give a wish list of sorts: That is, all the temp monitoring / statistics / timing / etc functionality you'd like to see in such a tool? I could use a project to work on.

[Sailindawg]

Wow Renfield, THANK YOU very much!!!!! My ideal is quite simple. I got very used to using a bootable version of Prime95 when overclocking single core cpu's. It saved a lot time and prevented unstable clocks from corrupting an otherwise stale install of XP.

Now that I have a dual core, my bootable P-95 is not that reliable because it only stresses one core. I thought, why hell, there must be a bootable version of SP2004. Well, I guess not. I haven't been able to source it.

I guess this would be my "wish list":

- ability to stress dual/core/multi cores in a non-windows OS environment, ie, a bootable program that would stress all cores and give some type of feedback.

I guess the functionality of SP2004, using the same type of calculations as P-95.

- a real time temp monitoring feature would be cool.

- some type of gui that showed that all cores are busy, similar to SP2004, that will also show when a core fails, similar to SP2004.

That's about it. I do look forward to your response. PM me if you need to.

Thanks again!

[typo_pl]

@typo_pl

I'm not a programmer and I'm kind of lost with your post's link. Could you either by pm or response here give me directions on how to use the code your reference? I'm also not sure how to integrate sp2004 into the BartPE disk. Can you please explain?

Thanks very much.

IIRC, you'll need a WinXP disk, a CD-burner app, plus the BartPE download.

BartPE takes a WinXP disk, grabs enough files from there to create a bootable CD.

You can add your own apps to the BartPE CD via the 'plugin' interface.

See the following links:
http://www.bcdwb.de/faq/2_plugincreate_e.html,
http://www.mechrest.com/plugins/BartPEGuide/BartPEGuide.htm,
http://www.fdevault.com/tech/peb/

The post I previously pointed to contains the 3 plugin-specific files that BartPE needs to create a menu entry for SP2004/Orthos so a user can run the app from the BartPE CD.

The plugin files and the SP2004/ORTHOS executable files are stored in their own directory under the plugins directory.

Once that's all setup, you tell BartPE to make an ISO/CD.

A CD-RW is useful at this point - using CD-Rs may create a lot of coasters until you get it right.

That's about it for my brain. If you need more info, you should read the BartPE forums.

J

[Sailindawg]

Thanks typo! That's a project I can probably handle. I have read about the BartPE disk, but never used it. Sounds like a great project to get my ears wet with.

Thanks.

[Crisao23]

IIRC, you'll need a WinXP disk, a CD-burner app, plus the BartPE download.

BartPE takes a WinXP disk, grabs enough files from there to create a bootable CD.

You can add your own apps to the BartPE CD via the 'plugin' interface.

See the following links:
http://www.bcdwb.de/faq/2_plugincreate_e.html,
http://www.mechrest.com/plugins/BartPEGuide/BartPEGuide.htm,
http://www.fdevault.com/tech/peb/

The post I previously pointed to contains the 3 plugin-specific files that BartPE needs to create a menu entry for SP2004/Orthos so a user can run the app from the BartPE CD.

The plugin files and the SP2004/ORTHOS executable files are stored in their own directory under the plugins directory.

Once that's all setup, you tell BartPE to make an ISO/CD.

A CD-RW is useful at this point - using CD-Rs may create a lot of coasters until you get it right.

That's about it for my brain. If you need more info, you should read the BartPE forums.

J

First of all I would like to say thanks one more time.

I built a BartPE .iso, Orthos runs but it only starts one thread (CPU #0).

Probably it checks some sort of variable on BartPE that tells it how many CPUs are available.

Do you know anything about this ?

I'll try to find more info on BartPE forums.

edit: I found something: http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=15598

Update:

The multiprocessor plugin works !

Orthos up and running. It works I think.

I don't have a single core machine to check for errors but it works fine in my Opteron 165.

Can I post the .iso here for you to test ?

Here is it running on my opteron 165:

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/5706/dsc02171oz1.th.jpg (http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/5706/dsc02171oz1.jpg)

Edit 2:

Also tested succesfully on a "single core" virtual machine on VMWare:

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6043/orthosonsinglecorewi8.th.jpg (http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6043/orthosonsinglecorewi8.jpg)

Here is the needed files for orthos on BartPE:

orthos.inf (http://www.furk.net/orthos.inf.html)

orthos_nu2menu.xml (http://www.furk.net/orthos_nu2menu.xml.html)

sp2004.htm (http://www.furk.net/sp2004.htm.html)

If you want Everest on the CD:

Everest.inf (http://www.furk.net/Everest.inf.html)

everest_nu2menu.xml (http://www.furk.net/everest_nu2menu.xml.html)

[Pinmod]

i know this is a noob questions but what does bootable mean?

[Crisao23]

i know this is a noob questions but what does bootable mean?

You don't need to run a benchmark or test based on an installed operating system. It runs from the CD and tests your hardware without any writing to your HD or messing up with your operating system.

You boot from the cd or usb device and it loads a working environment where you can test the system.

[Pinmod]

sweet ... i may never use windows again!

[Lord_RTKK]

@ crisao23: could you please upload the *.iso to megaupload or some sort of hosting in order to download it?? We would be very gratefull... ;)

BTW, it would be nice to boot orthos from USB Stick tho... :D:D

[Crisao23]

Here is the "final" version of the cd. Now it comes with Everest 4.0 (no key added of course) and Orthos.

How to insert your Everest 4.0 key on the image?

Download UltraISO:

http://www.ezbsystems.com/ultraiso/download.htm

The trial version can edit up to 300MB .iso files that's way higher than what we need in this case.

Install it.

Run UltraISO and open the "everestnokey.iso" image file.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8812/24746692sp3.jpg (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1174)

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1087/23769183cq6.jpg (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1174)

The program shows up two different explorer like views, one is your .iso image contents and the other below is a Windows Explorer like view of your system contents.

Browse through the image file directories and find the Everest folder. Now using the "Windos Explorer view, browse through your hard disk directories and find your Everest folder. In your system's Everest 4.0 folder you'll find a file called "pkey.txt", drag it to your iso image Everest folder. After the procedure, click on the save button.

The image below show how it's done. It's really easy.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9806/59476212zj6.th.jpg (http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9806/59476212zj6.jpg)

Download links for the bootable cd image:

http://files.filefront.com/everestnokey7z/...;/fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/everestnokey7z/;7525284;;/fileinfo.html)

http://www.fileflyer.com/view/gKnTuAs

New mirror:

http://rapidshare.com/files/31986468/everestnokey.7z

[Crisao23]

@ crisao23: could you please upload the *.iso to megaupload or some sort of hosting in order to download it?? We would be very gratefull... ;)

BTW, it would be nice to boot orthos from USB Stick tho... :D:D

"final" version above, including everest 4.0.

In order to transfer it to a usb device use PE2USB:

http://gocoding.com/page.php?al=petousb

[Sailindawg]

Crisao, THANK YOU so very much!! Crisao and Typo_pl, you both have been very helpful. Thanks again!!

[Mad_Man]

Here is the "final" version of the cd. Now it comes with Everest 4.0 (no key added of course) and Orthos.


Download links for the bootable cd image:

http://files.filefront.com/everestnokey7z/...;/fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/everestnokey7z/;7525284;;/fileinfo.html)

http://www.fileflyer.com/view/gKnTuAs
i downloaded it twice, both times it was corruped (7zip, winrar and TotalCommander was unable to unpack it) maybe theres error on my side but... can you check it?

[Crisao23]

Crisao, THANK YOU so very much!! Crisao and Typo_pl, you both have been very helpful. Thanks again!!

I just made some changes on the scripts and in the process learned a lot. Typo deserves a LOT of credit :clap:

i downloaded it twice, both times it was corruped (7zip, winrar and TotalCommander was unable to unpack it) maybe theres error on my side but... can you check it?

I'll mirror it on other services. Maybe it's the file hosting or your route to it.

I packed using latest 7zip, and tested unpacking with the latest WinRAR (beta 8 I think). The download is ok for me.

New mirror added:

http://rapidshare.com/files/31986468/everestnokey.7z

[tzitzos]

Crisao, thx you so much for the link that you provide.i have test it and it run excelent.

i want to ask is ther a way to put in the image more bench programs and some other stuff?
for example super_pi 1.5mod , cpu_z to show infos , sppedfan and coretemp for read temperatures and maybe some program to take a snapshot of the bench that you have make with the result.
maybe i am asking to much but it would be great to have also this stuff

Ps:thx also to Typo_pl for all the infos and links ;) ;)

[Crisao23]

Crisao, thx you so much for the link that you provide.i have test it and it run excelent.

i want to ask is ther a way to put in the image more bench programs and some other stuff?
for example super_pi 1.5mod , cpu_z to show infos , sppedfan and coretemp for read temperatures and maybe some program to take a snapshot of the bench that you have make with the result.
maybe i am asking to much but it would be great to have also this stuff

Ps:thx also to Typo_pl for all the infos and links ;) ;)

SuperPI should be easy

I'll find some free time to check it out.

[tzitzos]

SuperPI should be easy

I'll find some free time to check it out.



thx you so much m8 ;)

[KoHaN69]

thats very nice and im glad ppl like it.

however, i personally never encountered loss of data or corruption due to overclocking and/or system crashing :shrug:

[alexanderhuzar]

I have been waiting for so long for someone to make something like this for the community! I just wanted to say THANK YOU!!!

[KaptainBlaZzed]

how about adding Prime95 v25 so we can test quad cores.
maybe add setFSB and ClockGen to the iso also.