View Full Version : I need a new mobo..I give up with this RD600
nealh
03-31-2007, 04:33 PM
I got my second board...it was 26hrs P95 stable with config. in siginature..ran 3Dmark03/05/06with no issues..ram is tested with 50 passes test 5 memtest86(this board refuses to run my ram at 500mhz like my previous board without my vdimm set higher than the previous board)...I wonder if the voltage regulation is off on this board
then 3 days ago...I reran 3Dmark05 and it reboots my setup...I have tried for 3 days to figure out the issue..I went to 3400 as well..I reflashed 12/22 and then flashed 2/12 bios....still no go
My first RD600 and this RD600..ran my cpu at 3400@1.4625 and 3500@1.525 20+ hrs plus prime 95 stable...I got screenshot but who cares
I have had it...no reason for this to become unstable and nothing seems to fix the issue
I need to get something else....but what?
I leaning toward BadAxe2 ...but nothing seems to be a good option
I would like to run my cpu at 3400-3500 @1.46v-1.52v and my ram at 400-45-mhz 4-4-4-4-18 or 500mhz 5-6-5-5-18
my cpu need ot much vcore for 3600
eXceeded
03-31-2007, 04:43 PM
hmmm so your experience with the RD600 has been poor? Man this board has turned out to be such a flop, nowhere near as good as early ES's were and as ti was hyped it up to be...
nealh
03-31-2007, 05:08 PM
My first board was great up until I tired to run sync mode....I could never get it to clear the cmos...I wish i had bought a backup bios chip
The new board runs 5-7C hotter on NB at lower voltage....it seems more finicky now
and I know people will say its my cpu...I really doubt it...how could I run at least 6 runs of 20+ hrs of P95 blend and at least couple dozen runs of 3Dmark05 on 2 different RD600..than out of nowhere it fails....I just cant buy the cpu
dogsx2
03-31-2007, 05:33 PM
hmmm so your experience with the RD600 has been poor? Man this board has turned out to be such a flop, nowhere near as good as early ES's were and as ti was hyped it up to be...
It may have been the most hyped, delayed mother board ever that turned out to be just a also ran in the middle of the pack board.
If anyone can remember a more hyped and delayed board that turned out to be just a so so mb, please tell me.
TSFroggy
03-31-2007, 05:36 PM
I'm with you nealh. I got a BadAxe2 and besides my CPU having a bad lap there has been nothing but clear skies with this board. My RD600 just wasn't that much up to scratch. :( Bad vdroop and questionable stability.
I highly recommend the BadAxe2.
nealh
03-31-2007, 05:45 PM
I'm with you nealh. I got a BadAxe2 and besides my CPU having a bad lap there has been nothing but clear skies with this board. My RD600 just wasn't that much up to scratch. :( Bad vdroop and questionable stability.
I highly recommend the BadAxe2.
Have you overclocked on the Badaxe2 yet
what are your results....
death metal
03-31-2007, 06:17 PM
I have tried this board as well, and gave up on it after a week, and I got this board after several weeks of it being out. I know that I gave up too early, but if the board doesn't perform after it's been out for quite some time, I am not going to spend any more time.
I have tried eVga 680i, and it's almost same crap, Kentsfield OC is a miserable experience (and I hear they did recall their board, I don't care anymore), and I have problems with sound and lan card.
Asus Commando has this buzzing sound, and I thought my board is faulty.
So I am sticking with two boards for now: Bad Axe 2, Asus P5B Deluxe. I also use Abit AW9D-Max from time to time. Not sure about the Abit QuadGT though, it looks like it's a killer mobo.
MacClipper
03-31-2007, 07:30 PM
If you are the same nealh from freaks forum, do consider the Asus P5W DH Dlx cos at stock, it would allow you to hook up up to 4 PATA ODDs in your collection. Hitting 390FSB should be quite easy too.
Quite a few ODD fans are using this mobo too.
nealh
03-31-2007, 07:37 PM
If you are the same nealh from freaks forum, do consider the Asus P5W DH Dlx cos at stock, it would allow you to hook up up to 4 PATA ODDs in your collection. Hitting 390FSB should be quite easy too.
Quite a few ODD fans are using this mobo too.
Yes thats me
I have my ODD scattered in other systems....
1640 in ext enclosure
H22N in the wife's ssytem
1620 in my son's
My Samsung 183L and 1655 in the C2D box
puttekula
03-31-2007, 11:43 PM
Yup, the Asus P5W DH dlx is not the newest around but it is so far the most stable board for my 6600cpu. WC cooled cpu (fuzion) at 3600mhz-1.33v load - 47c Orthos small fft and 55c TAT 100%. OCZ8500SLI rams at 800 4.4.4.12 2.0v. The NB at 1.55v. 3700 no problem as well. Bootable at 4000mhz with voltages set to high.
After the news about highvoltage (within specs.)killing rams (anything above 1.8 really) Im afraid to lose my 6th set of rams.
Yes, thats right. 1 Corsair 6400 cas 4, Corsair 8500cas5, Corsair 8500cas5D, OCZ8500SLI, OCZ 9200 wc cooled one..... And yes, there was two 680i mobos involved as well. EVGA and Striker ...... Never ran those rams above recommended max voltages.
The last 6 months I went throu Abit AW9D max, Evga680i R.I.P., Gigabyte S3, DS3, DQ6, Asus Striker Extreme R.I.P., Asus P5N E sli DOA, and right now Asus P5W DH. Satsified so far. I have an Asus Commando staring at me begging for testing but I don know if its worth it....
Atrin
04-01-2007, 12:22 AM
I would like to purchase an Asus Commando motherboard...Would you reccomend it ? I currently own an Evga 680i SLI and it seems to be creating problems(ps2 mouse problem etc etc...) I dont want anymore problems so i thought of buying this one... What do you think ?
fhpchris
04-01-2007, 12:26 AM
I would like to purchase an Asus Commando motherboard...Would you reccomend it ? I currently own an Evga 680i SLI and it seems to be creating problems(ps2 mouse problem etc etc...) I dont want anymore problems so i thought of buying this one... What do you think ?
buy a usb keyboard :)
ziddey
04-01-2007, 12:33 AM
quadgt/dfi-infinity. for your target of 445ddr, you could run 1:1 and 8x multi and satisfy cpu speed too. plus, those boards run 1066 strap
turtletrax
04-01-2007, 12:34 AM
I have an XBX 2 and it is running very well. It likes Vmch (which is the opposite of what most need) and I get about 460FSB out of it. Super stable but a bit of a biach to OC. Still that lingering of Intel OCing from the XBX.
Really want to water cool the chipset but havent got around to selling my MCW-30 and getting something that doesnt have a mickey mouse mounting system.
All-in-all I have been very happy with the XBX's I have had with the XBX2 at the top of boards I have ever owned.
theteamaqua
04-01-2007, 12:43 AM
well i say P5B DLX , or 965P-DS3 ... both r awesome 965 boards ... oh and Abit Quad GT as well
does 975XBX2 requires vcore mod?? to get vcore?? if not then yeah i recommand it
i owned an badaxe it was quite good actually.. but 975xbx2 can "only" oc kentsfield about 380fsb ... so if u want more P5B DLX is better, but chances r 380fsb with badaxe 2 performs faster than P5B DLX @ 380fsb ..
aamsel
04-01-2007, 12:56 AM
I had "understood" that the Badaxe 2 did not require any mods to overclock?
As for the 380FSB limit, is this also the FSB limit for the Badaxe 2 with a C2D?
If so, what is the cause of this limitation?
Thanks,
Andrew
...
does 975XBX2 requires vcore mod?? to get vcore?? if not then yeah i recommand it
i owned an badaxe it was quite good actually.. but 975xbx2 can "only" oc kentsfield about 380fsb ... so if u want more P5B DLX is better, but chances r 380fsb with badaxe 2 performs faster than P5B DLX @ 380fsb ..
Atrin
04-01-2007, 01:05 AM
buy a usb keyboard :)
i have allready bought a usb keyboard and i have a usb mouse but nothing has changed.. so i want to change my motherboard. i dont want to continue my life with evga 680i sli :nono:
turtletrax
04-01-2007, 01:17 AM
No mods needed for OC'ing the XBX2. Also if you have decent airflow you will be fine with chipset cooling using stock components and no need to reapply TIM.
Vdroop is crazy awesome on the XBX2. Around 0.02v :) The C2D FSB limitation is between 450-475 and the Quad was higher than 380 I thought, but am not sure. I thought it was about 420...
theteamaqua
04-01-2007, 01:24 AM
Cool .. cuz my badaxe needed that vcore mod,
i might pick it up once i get Q6600 in Q3 when it drops to $266
266 bux for a quad is just too cheap , and i dont think AMD's is any cheaper
here i found supertimer's thread:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=124131
3.4GHz on XBX2 is about as fast as 3.7Ghz on P5B DLX ?!?!?!? woot?
2nd thought .. P5B DLX is more OCer friendly , but if u want Crossfire .. 975XBX2 it is
dave24
04-01-2007, 01:46 AM
the QuadGT is a good board,i`m more than happy with it
Atrin
04-01-2007, 06:20 AM
what is the voltage limit of this motherboard(commando) that can supply to the rams?
cadaveca
04-01-2007, 06:59 AM
Bad Axe2 boards are ok, but recent bioses have removed the overclocking abilities of the board.
STaRGaZeR
04-01-2007, 07:37 AM
Bad Axe2 boards are ok, but recent bioses have removed the overclocking abilities of the board.
BIOS 2333 overclocks like a charm, rock stable at high FSBs.
cadaveca
04-01-2007, 07:41 AM
of course...but have you tried one of the latest? I use 2653...works the same as 2333, and drive light is not always on. bioses after that one, overclocking is hampered.
nealh
04-01-2007, 07:54 AM
of course...but have you tried one of the latest? I use 2653...works the same as 2333, and drive light is not always on. bioses after that one, overclocking is hampered.
so bios 2653 and bios 2333 are good for overclocking but nothing later after those...
I have no idea if or when i will buy a Q6600(I really dobut it will $266 in the near future)
I am just fed up with this second board..oh how I wish I had gotten a backup bios chip...what a moron
Thanks guys
nealh
04-01-2007, 07:59 AM
I have an XBX 2 and it is running very well. It likes Vmch (which is the opposite of what most need) and I get about 460FSB out of it. Super stable but a bit of a biach to OC. Still that lingering of Intel OCing from the XBX.
Really want to water cool the chipset but havent got around to selling my MCW-30 and getting something that doesnt have a mickey mouse mounting system.
http://www.dangerden.com/store/product.php?productid=251&cat=46&page=1
but from what I hear a HR05/MCX159-cu/microcool whisperXE all work just fine as an air solution to keep chipsets cool
I have a microcool whipser xe but could not get a good mount on the RD600 with the shim and was afraid to go shimless....
I just ordered a MCX159 cu since I got $15 off $30 purchase via paypal to use
bobov
04-01-2007, 08:07 AM
Bad Axe2 boards are ok, but recent bioses have removed the overclocking abilities of the board.
I think it's Bad Axe 1 board removed the overclocking in BIOS. :)
bobov
04-01-2007, 08:11 AM
so bios 2653 and bios 2333 are good for overclocking but nothing later after those...
I have no idea if or when i will buy a Q6600(I really dobut it will $266 in the near future)
I am just fed up with this second board..oh how I wish I had gotten a backup bios chip...what a moron
Thanks guys
I'm using 2674 bios (the latest bios) on my xbx2, can run my E6600 @ 400x9 without problem.
cadaveca
04-01-2007, 08:13 AM
uh, yes, options are plain 'ol removed on badaxe1, but overclocking is worse than previous bioses on BadAxe2. not too sure why...just the way it is. Might have to do with board revisions too...I know some ofthem use different clockgen chips, and this could be part of the reason for the differences between bioses...depends on what revision the bios was written on, I suppose.
Kin Hell
04-01-2007, 08:17 AM
I just ordered a MCX159 cu since I got $15 off $30 purchase via paypal to use
I guess you won't be needing RD600 Block then m8y! ;)
No Probs....really....just glad you threw the towel in before going completely barmy with RD600! :rolleyes:
I took some assorted advice from fhpchris & ended up going EVGA 680i. Thanks ever so much m8y....really appreciated! :)
Never had my CPU @ 3.6Ghz 402fsb stable on RD600.....
RE BadAxe2......You're gunno Love Matrix Raid! :slobber:
Just hope the boards control is to you liking....
All the best bud! :toast:
STaRGaZeR
04-01-2007, 08:28 AM
of course...but have you tried one of the latest? I use 2653...works the same as 2333, and drive light is not always on. bioses after that one, overclocking is hampered.
No, BIOS factory was 2333 and I was so pleased with it that I´m not moving to the lastest BIOS. I´ve "solved" the problem with the HDD led turning on the Marvell controller, and disable it in Windows. I only notice its presence al bootup, for about 4 secs. Do you really recommend update to a newer BIOS?
cadaveca
04-01-2007, 08:59 AM
If you have no issues, then i cannot see any reason to bother.
But...I run latest bios, drivers, etc, for something to play with.:stick: Keeps me amused.
fhpchris
04-01-2007, 09:31 AM
I guess you won't be needing RD600 Block then m8y! ;)
No Probs....really....just glad you threw the towel in before going completely barmy with RD600! :rolleyes:
I took some assorted advice from fhpchris & ended up going EVGA 680i. Thanks ever so much m8y....really appreciated! :)
Never had my CPU @ 3.6Ghz 402fsb stable on RD600.....
RE BadAxe2......You're gunno Love Matrix Raid! :slobber:
Just hope the boards control is to you liking....
All the best bud! :toast:
I do like the EVGA 680i alot! Good luck with it! :)
aamsel
04-01-2007, 11:03 AM
2674 is the current version on Intel's site.
Where do they keep the archived versions?
Andrew
so bios 2653 and bios 2333 are good for overclocking but nothing later after those...
Kain XS
04-01-2007, 11:03 AM
I have never had any problems with my motherboard nealh (as Ive said many times in DFI Club), Im just curios about many people having problems with it.
Well, my recomendations woudl be ASUS P5B Deluxe, ASUS Comando or DFI infinity 965p (you need to wait some days for this though).
nealh
04-01-2007, 12:57 PM
I have never had any problems with my motherboard nealh (as Ive said many times in DFI Club), Im just curios about many people having problems with it.
Well, my recomendations woudl be ASUS P5B Deluxe, ASUS Comando or DFI infinity 965p (you need to wait some days for this though).
I am not saying all the boards are "bad'..my first was great until I foolishly tried sync mode as a test and the bios corrupted I guess...that setup was rock stable
I paid a premium at lauch ...and I expected a HQ baord for my money...damn mobo companies are selling not so good products a huge premium..at least EVGA is offer a replacement for there new revison for quad core usage(that is good CS ...never seen a mobo company do that)
the new board is not so good..higher chipset temps by 5-7C, inability to run ram at same speeds as other board, and now a clearly tested stable setup that has failed....
How can a cpu 4 days be 100% stable P95/3mark and memtest86 and just up and change????
I have not put any extreme voltages through anything....1.42 v max on NB. 1.53v max on cpu..bizarre to me
aamsel
04-01-2007, 01:35 PM
Sorry, I am confused...
Which board are you referring to in this post?
Andrew
...
the new board is not so good..higher chipset temps by 5-7C, inability to run ram at same speeds as other board, and now a clearly tested stable setup that has failed....
How can a cpu 4 days be 100% stable P95/3mark and memtest86 and just up and change????
I have not put any extreme voltages through anything....1.42 v max on NB. 1.53v max on cpu..bizarre to me
nealh
04-01-2007, 03:47 PM
Sorry, I am confused...
Which board are you referring to in this post?
Andrew
My second RD600 which I got from Newegg on RMA....sorry
Kain XS
04-01-2007, 03:54 PM
As Ive said, I would wait a little bit and get Infinity 965p.
Are you suffering a lot of problems with that RMAed motherboard?
Just the frist case that 3dmarks reboots? or you have a lot of unstability problems? Even without OC?
nealh
04-01-2007, 04:46 PM
As Ive said, I would wait a little bit and get Infinity 965p.
Are you suffering a lot of problems with that RMAed motherboard?
Just the frist case that 3dmarks reboots? or you have a lot of unstability problems? Even without OC?
I will not be able to wait if I RMA to newegg I have about 2 weeks left(Newegg claims the RMA was a brand new board..looked like it from the packaging
I have not rerun all the stabiltiy test but I lowered cpu speed and vcore and upped my NB voltage from 1.36 to 1.42
AFAIK it is only 3Dmark05 that crashes
I reran 3DMark06...no problem
3Dmark03 crashed as well
EDIT: lowered ram to 333 4-4-4-18-2t and 3mark03 ran ok..so I am upping the vdimm and see what happens now
Blacklash
04-01-2007, 05:44 PM
Well, my recommendations would be ASUS P5B Deluxe, ASUS Commando or DFI infinity P965 (you need to wait some days for this though).
I'd agree with that list. ^ I'd definitely wait and see how the DFI P965 stacks up vs the others.
Brian y.
04-01-2007, 06:36 PM
I must have been lucky w/ my RD600 as I had my E6600 Orthos stable @ 3800MHz on air. Was able to reach up 4770MHz on DICE. Had my good ol Presler 950 up to 5900MHz. I love the Bios and how high I can push the vCore. Just wish it was not FSB limited.:(
Kin Hell
04-02-2007, 08:01 PM
I do like the EVGA 680i alot! Good luck with it! :)
Yeah dude....my 2.4ES Stepping 5 is flying at 3.7Ghz now! :toast:
nealh
04-02-2007, 08:44 PM
well par for the course..I figured part of the problem is vdimm..well last night I was stable 3D MArk05 with 2.1v at 400mhz on the ram..tonight I now need 2.2v....
this mobo has got to be the problem
Ruslan
04-02-2007, 08:51 PM
I will recommend the Abit QuadGT. But you have to know your stuff for this board. One wrong bios option or driver misconfiguration and it will not work right. Very solid board ever since B02 Bios for me, The most stable/solid board I ever touched hardware wise.
nealh
04-03-2007, 03:45 AM
I will recommend the Abit QuadGT. But you have to know your stuff for this board. One wrong bios option or driver misconfiguration and it will not work right. Very solid board ever since B02 Bios for me, The most stable/solid board I ever touched hardware wise.
wow..nice recommendation
CrAsHeR
04-03-2007, 04:12 AM
Hi All There..
Even if this is my 1st post there, i'm reading everything wrote on this board from over a month :P (i don't want to write everywhere the same question so i add mine there :P)
In these days i have the same problem..I must chose a new mobo..
The problem started after i bought a pair of supertalent memory kit T800UX2GC4 and they were incompatible with my Gigabyte DS4 rev 1.0..In other words the board won't post with memory set in dualchannel, but only in single channell (so it was for sure a bios issues as with older bios the mobo won't post neither with single channel configuration)..
Anyway, i don't want to change my D9GKX that does 500@2,2v 4-4-4-12..And they're quiet cold! So i want to change the mobo..
Ofcourse my cfg is composed of:
E6400
2x1GB D9GKX 4-4-4-12@2.2v@500
XFX 8800GTS 320
Audigy 2
Hyper Type-R 580W and many Hd's including a Raptor 150Gb
The main objective is to reach a stable daily overclock. I thought of a 500x8 since everything is watercooled (including NB of mobo) or at least a frequency higher than 3500Mhz :P
The main point is that i don't want to spend much money on mobo, and the choice was restricted to
P5B Deluxe or Gigabyte DQ6..
Which one should i chose?
erwinz
04-03-2007, 04:53 AM
my next board maybe is DFI Infinity 965P or the DFI 680 LT.. :D
I have tested the commando.. mm.. not impressed.. just me..
but I will not be rushing in my next board.. :) I'll be lurking for retail results and reviews.. hehehe
no more implosive buying.. :)
goodluck on your next board..
you can never go wrong with badaxe2.. :)
nealh
04-03-2007, 05:19 AM
DFI..I still love my DFI SLI DR..great stable board
I would love to see there 680i offering but I will need something i nthe next week or so..becasue of RMA
sofarfrome
04-03-2007, 06:29 AM
My second RD600 which I got from Newegg on RMA....sorry
Funny, my 2nd RD600 was much better than the first after RMA. Much less finicky.
nealh
04-03-2007, 07:07 AM
Funny, my 2nd RD600 was much better than the first after RMA. Much less finicky.
Not mine ...much worse
is nowhere near as stable as the first board....it handles my ram that ran at 500mhz with 2.2v ..at best right now ..400mhz at 2.2v
and given my last several days I expect this to fail testing tonight
TouGe
04-03-2007, 12:11 PM
I absolutely loved my RD600 board. Well, I loved the BIOS. I had so much fun playing around with all the settings but no matter how tight my timmings were, even at 1t, it was just too slow.
I was also caught up in all the hype and thought that it would be a good replacement for my EVGA 680i which at the time was still having issues but I ended up going back to EVGA. After the P25 BIOS my EVGA board is finally all around stable and much faster than the RD600. Too bad, I love DFI's BIOS options....
puttekula
04-03-2007, 12:29 PM
Hi All There..
Even if this is my 1st post there, i'm reading everything wrote on this board from over a month :P (i don't want to write everywhere the same question so i add mine there :P)
In these days i have the same problem..I must chose a new mobo..
The problem started after i bought a pair of supertalent memory kit T800UX2GC4 and they were incompatible with my Gigabyte DS4 rev 1.0..In other words the board won't post with memory set in dualchannel, but only in single channell (so it was for sure a bios issues as with older bios the mobo won't post neither with single channel configuration)..
Anyway, i don't want to change my D9GKX that does 500@2,2v 4-4-4-12..And they're quiet cold! So i want to change the mobo..
Ofcourse my cfg is composed of:
E6400
2x1GB D9GKX 4-4-4-12@2.2v@500
XFX 8800GTS 320
Audigy 2
Hyper Type-R 580W and many Hd's including a Raptor 150Gb
The main objective is to reach a stable daily overclock. I thought of a 500x8 since everything is watercooled (including NB of mobo) or at least a frequency higher than 3500Mhz :P
The main point is that i don't want to spend much money on mobo, and the choice was restricted to
P5B Deluxe or Gigabyte DQ6..
Which one should i chose?
4ghz with water...hmmm.. The DQ6 is surely capable of 500mhz+. Mine did 520 stable. Dunno , but the Asus surely will do also..
But why dont u buy another cpu and keep ur board?
Brian y.
04-08-2007, 06:29 PM
Finally found out how far you could go with this board.
It seems after 546FSB the board stops scaling with clockgen.
Had some issues with the PCIe getting a little wacky on me........
Oh well, the Bios on this was incredible and it was fun to play with,
but time to move on.
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/1031/dfiboardmaxedoutes3.png
mucker
04-08-2007, 06:48 PM
Bad Axe2 boards are ok, but recent bioses have removed the overclocking abilities of the board.
Big YEP from me......2333 still the best for me.....