Quad core temps

[sonofander]

What are good temps for a QX6700?
I just tossed my new CPU into the loop yesterday and I am at
idle/load
Core0: 59/67
Core1: 54/64
Core2: 54/63
Core3: 54/64

I have my CPU overclocked to 3.55 @ 1.45 vcore...
does this sound ok? I'm used to running my C2D at idle/load temps of 37/45 so these seem a bit high to me.

What do you guys think?

[CraptacularOne]

pretty normal for a quad core. My temps are about the same at 3.6Ghz (my 24/7 settings) although my idle temps are a bit lower than yours. But that is nothing to worry about.

[Sideroxylon]

Idle 38c load 54c 3.3g @ 1.45v with rig in sig

[Reinvented]

sonofander, what block are you using? i'm almost tempted to say you can get better temps.

[TopherTony]

Intel's max recommended thermal on this chip is 65C
anything over that and you are possibly shortening the life of the chip

[Chas_The_Man]

I have heard this 65 degree temp before but ignored it thinking it is in error. If it is true, then Intel's stock cooler doesnt meet the spec. At stock speeds with the stock cooler running Boinc you will exceed 65 degrees by a wide margin. What is the source for this 65 degree recomendation from Intel. I have read the thermal specs etc but can not find any statement that says 65 degrees max.

[jmilcher]

What are good temps for a QX6700?
I just tossed my new CPU into the loop yesterday and I am at
idle/load
Core0: 59/67
Core1: 54/64
Core2: 54/63
Core3: 54/64

I have my CPU overclocked to 3.55 @ 1.45 vcore...
does this sound ok? I'm used to running my C2D at idle/load temps of 37/45 so these seem a bit high to me.

What do you guys think?


some people would kill for those temps on a Qx6700 :banana:

[Sideroxylon]

Intel's max recommended thermal on this chip is 65C
anything over that and you are possibly shortening the life of the chip

Huh? I'm pretty sure it's more like 85c.

[NiCKE^]

TJunction is 100C..anyway I've QX6700 @ 1.38v and I'm loading 70C and idle 50C. Alphacool Nexxxos XP Light, Laing DDC1, BIP2 + 40CFM fans. I suppose I could do alot better with Apogee GT/GTX or D-Tek Fuzion.

[jmilcher]

Intel's max recommended thermal on this chip is 65C
anything over that and you are possibly shortening the life of the chip

I have heard this 65 degree temp before but ignored it thinking it is in error. If it is true, then Intel's stock cooler doesnt meet the spec. At stock speeds with the stock cooler running Boinc you will exceed 65 degrees by a wide margin. What is the source for this 65 degree recomendation from Intel. I have read the thermal specs etc but can not find any statement that says 65 degrees max.

I 100% agree... I have heard the 65 degree myth also, maybe its true? We need to see actual evidence... and the thermal specs I read said nothing of the sort...

:fact:

[sonofander]

sonofander, what block are you using? i'm almost tempted to say you can get better temps.


I'm using an Apogee GT. The rest of my loop consists of a MCP355 (with petras top), PA120.3 and 2 8800 GTXs (DD blocks).

I've actually dropped my temps by working on my OC... I'm now at 3.5 w/ 1.38 vcore and my temps are:
idle/load
Core0: 46/57
Core1: 44/56
Core2: 43/55
Core3: 44/56

[Reinvented]

That's looking quite good now. :) Right now, i'm running @ 3.0 with 1.4v, so my temps are about the same as yours, but they vary so much.

anyway, that looks good! :)

[Bootup05]

Great temps there!
Even the first lot posted were good.

IIRC there was a guy on these forums, in some kind of modding post I think it was, I know that his temps were ALOT higher than yours, pretty certain he was hitting 70/80c, but didn't have any problems, I think this was on the stock Intel cooler, which he got changed because of the temps.

[Bun-Bun]

I'm using an Apogee GT. The rest of my loop consists of a MCP355 (with petras top), PA120.3 and 2 8800 GTXs (DD blocks).

I've actually dropped my temps by working on my OC... I'm now at 3.5 w/ 1.48 vcore and my temps are:
idle/load
Core0: 46/57
Core1: 44/56
Core2: 43/55
Core3: 44/56

CPU alone those arnt great but decent... combined with 2 8800GTX's? You have nothing to worry about my friend.

As another poster said... some would kill for your temps :P

[IanY]

10 x 378, 1.425 volts, Orthos load temps:

Core0: 49C
Core1: 51C
Core2: 49C
Core3: 50C

DDC++ -> DDC++ -> PA120.3 -> Apogee GT (soon GTX) -> PA120.2 (soon PA120.3) -> MCRES

[Bun-Bun]

10 x 378, 1.425 volts, Orthos load temps:

Core0: 49C
Core1: 51C
Core2: 49C
Core3: 50C

DCC++ -> DDC++ -> PA120.3 -> Apogee GT (soon GTX) -> PA120.2 (soon PA120.3) -> MCRES

Nice Iany, I hope my QX6700 OC'es that well when I get it in two weeks. Mind you you have 2.5 times the radiatorage that I will have lol... so maybe not.. lol.

[tomb18]

Intel's max recommended thermal on this chip is 65C
anything over that and you are possibly shortening the life of the chip

I too have heard this and it is in their documentation http://download.intel.com/design/processor/datashts/31559202.pdf
It is true! Tcase is 65C max.

Now, the Tcase temperature is typically 10-15C lower than the values given by the thermal sensors on the die themselves. So If you are using coretemp, then each core can go to 75-80C and you are in spec.
It is a bit confusing when you read the intel documents because they only talk about Tcase Max which is 65C. They also say that the THERMTRIP signal (shutdown signal) gets asserted at 20C above Tcase (i.e 85C as determined on the case) so you are really seeing a temperature of 100-105C in Coretemp when the system shuts down.

I am currently hitting about 72C using coretemp running 4 instances of prime95 and idling at 51C. I am using a Tuniq Tower, and it took three tries for me to get these temperatures!
With the stock cooler at stock 2.66 GHz, I hit 71C as well!

I am currently running 340 FSB x10 (3.4GHz at 1.34V) on an evga 680 rev A board.

I have a question for all of you water coolers. Is a dual 120mm fan rad adequate to cool a QX6700 to high overclocks?
I would only be cooling the cpu not anything else.

Thanks

[Bun-Bun]

I have a question for all of you water coolers. Is a dual 120mm fan rad adequate to cool a QX6700 to high overclocks?
I would only be cooling the cpu not anything else.

Thanks

Yes I beleive so. A PA120.3 can handle a QX6700 and SLI 8800's... so a PA120.2 could take a QX6700 by itself.

[TopherTony]

Well i got a single 120mm rad from my last setup with a pentium D, it uses crappy 1/4" hose and a small res. I have my QX at 3.0 ghz and its folding using the smp client, which means 100% usage on all cores non stop, my temps after about an hr are around 60-62C

I think a dual 120mm with 1/2" hoses and a larger res would do fine

[IanY]

Thank you, Bun Bun. My intentions are to achieve an even 3.8 Ghz at 1.4 volts and yet be below 50 C on all four cores. A bit ambitious, but I'm going to try.

[mcoffey]

Thank you, Bun Bun. My intentions are to achieve an even 3.8 Ghz at 1.4 volts and yet be below 50 C on all four cores. A bit ambitious, but I'm going to try.

sounds great, let us know how it turns out Ian, always enjoy your experience. I was just pricing out a new system C2D today with a E6700, and I'm concerned about getting temps down. So I've been watchng your posts.

AMD's coming out with some newer AM2 procs soon, so might hold off a while and see if AMD catches back up and I can build more upon the rig I have up.

gl,

andyc

[IanY]

sounds great, let us know how it turns out Ian, always enjoy your experience. I was just pricing out a new system C2D today with a E6700, and I'm concerned about getting temps down. So I've been watchng your posts.

AMD's coming out with some newer AM2 procs soon, so might hold off a while and see if AMD catches back up and I can build more upon the rig I have up.

gl,

andyc


Mcoffey/Andy,

Unfortunately I'm not home right now. I'm vacationing till midweek and when I return, I have to get down to ordering my case. Nothing's going to happen till I have a case that can hold all my stuff... and its growing, as you can imagine.

I am not aiming for the most number of loops. As you can see, the strategy is radiators and pumps.

My son has had an AM2 system since the fall. It was my system till the Core 2s were released. For an AM2, the system runs very fast (3.3 Ghz) but it does run a bit hot because the water cooling is not ultra high end (Storm Rev2, D5, PA120.3)

[mcoffey]

Mcoffey/Andy,

Unfortunately I'm not home right now. I'm vacationing till midweek and when I return, I have to get down to ordering my case. Nothing's going to happen till I have a case that can hold all my stuff... and its growing, as you can imagine.

I am not aiming for the most number of loops. As you can see, the strategy is radiators and pumps.

My son has had an AM2 system since the fall. It was my system till the Core 2s were released. For an AM2, the system runs very fast (3.3 Ghz) but it does run a bit hot because the water cooling is not ultra high end (Storm Rev2, D5, PA120.3)

thx,

I've got mine running at 3.12 by just stepping up the volts some. Been having to much fun playing with the new rig to get down to some serious OC'ing. Mines running very cool, so should have plenty of room to bump things up a tad when I settle down and do it.

Been having so much fun playing games on the 30in, and tweaking the rig. But I want to see how much I can get out of what I have now before going SLI. More fun and Challenge that way IMO.

thx,

andyc

[Bun-Bun]

Thank you, Bun Bun. My intentions are to achieve an even 3.8 Ghz at 1.4 volts and yet be below 50 C on all four cores. A bit ambitious, but I'm going to try.

Ambitious but still possible.

I am aiming for at least 1 GHz OC on the kentsfield. I hope to keep temps down below 65°C. On a single GTX240... I may be pushing it.

[tomb18]

Much to my chagrin, I determined what the actual shutoff temperature is on a QX6700 last night!!!!! (QX6700 @ 3.4GHz, 1.4V Tuniq tower, 49C idle)

I was running 4 instances of prime95 and over the course of a few hours I saw temperatures around 73C using Coretemp.
Well this morning I can down and the computer was off. Check out this log of the last while in Coretemp

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At this point the computer shut off.

Look at the big jump from 100C to 127C! All of a sudden. It implies something is breaking down..the arctic silver? the interface? The logging is at every 9 seconds.

Well now we all know for sure that the THERMPROT signal that is supposed to be tripped at Tcase + 20C is at 127C as determined by Coretemp!!!

What I am curious about though is why the big jump at the end??????

Looks like water cooling for me!!!

[IanY]

I wouldn't put that poor Kentsfield through many more of those arbitrary tests. I tried the four core TAT beta distributed inside Intel and even on water, the cores were in the mid 70s.

[sonofander]

I'm using an Apogee GT. The rest of my loop consists of a MCP355 (with petras top), PA120.3 and 2 8800 GTXs (DD blocks).

I've actually dropped my temps by working on my OC... I'm now at 3.5 w/ 1.38 vcore and my temps are:
idle/load
Core0: 46/57
Core1: 44/56
Core2: 43/55
Core3: 44/56

What do you guys think about me adding a PA120.1 to my loop? do you think that would help my temps at all?

I know you guys are telling me that my temps are fine, but I'd really like to be able to overclock a bit more... with my current setup, as soon as I get it up to 3.6, my temps jump 10-15 degrees...

do you think the additional rad would help that?

[IanY]

What do you guys think about me adding a PA120.1 to my loop? do you think that would help my temps at all?

I know you guys are telling me that my temps are fine, but I'd really like to be able to overclock a bit more... with my current setup, as soon as I get it up to 3.6, my temps jump 10-15 degrees...

do you think the additional rad would help that?


You need to separate the 8800GTXes from the loop. Adding a radiator to the loop will hardly help. If you move the 8800GTXes to their own loop, then your cpu will be helped considerably.

A PA120.3 is clearly adequate for Core2 and 8800GTX SLI only if you don't care so much about low temps. If you want optimal temps for your cpu, you cannot have the video cards in the loop.

And BTW, a PA120.1 is not adequate for 8800GTX SLI.

[sonofander]

You need to separate the 8800GTXes from the loop. Adding a radiator to the loop will hardly help. If you move the 8800GTXes to their own loop, then your cpu will be helped considerably.

A PA120.3 is clearly adequate for Core2 and 8800GTX SLI only if you don't care so much about low temps. If you want optimal temps for your cpu, you cannot have the video cards in the loop.

And BTW, a PA120.1 is not adequate for 8800GTX SLI.

So adding a rad won't do anything for me... How about leaving the 2 8800s on the 120.3 and getting a 120.2 for my CPU. Would I see marked improvements with that?

[Sideroxylon]

I'd like to overclock a bit more too. I can run my quad at 3.6g but it takes too much voltage and gets too hot at that speed. You gotta find your sweet spot. Mine is 3.3g @ 1.45v. Who knows what yours is but at some point you just gotta say it's good enough.

[sonofander]

I'd like to overclock a bit more too. I can run my quad at 3.6g but it takes too much voltage and gets too hot at that speed. You gotta find your sweet spot. Mine is 3.3g @ 1.45v. Who knows what yours is but at some point you just gotta say it's good enough.

Good enough??? that deosn't sound very extreme :stick:
I don't think I've found good enough yet and am going to give it a go :D

[IanY]

So adding a rad won't do anything for me... How about leaving the 2 8800s on the 120.3 and getting a 120.2 for my CPU. Would I see marked improvements with that?

That would be a good strategy. On the other hand, overclocking the GTXesare less important, and they can go on the new PA120.2 and the cpu can go onto the PA120.3. Make sure you have proper pumping power.

[Anemone]

Yeah I'd say the same. 120.2 for the 8800's SLI and the 120.3 for the QX.

[Spacemaster]

What are good temps for a QX6700?
I just tossed my new CPU into the loop yesterday and I am at
idle/load
Core0: 59/67
Core1: 54/64
Core2: 54/63
Core3: 54/64

I have my CPU overclocked to 3.55 @ 1.45 vcore...
does this sound ok? I'm used to running my C2D at idle/load temps of 37/45 so these seem a bit high to me.

What do you guys think?

What program for monitoring you use?

[sonofander]

@Spacemaster - I use coretemp

I've been looking around this morning and I can't seem to find a PA120.2 in stock anywhere... do you think a Swiftech MCR220 would be able to handle the 2 8800s?

[fhpchris]

Intel's max recommended thermal on this chip is 65C
anything over that and you are possibly shortening the life of the chip

OH NOZ NOT TEH THERMAL POLICE!:slap:

[pplapeu]

THERMTRIP# Signal
Regardless of whether or not Thermal Monitor or Thermal Monitor 2 is enabled, in the
event of a catastrophic cooling failure, the processor will automatically shut down when
the silicon has reached an elevated temperature (refer to the THERMTRIP# definition in
Table 24). At this point, the FSB signal THERMTRIP# will go active and stay active as
described in Table 24. THERMTRIP# activation is independent of processor activity and
does not generate any bus cycles. If THERMTRIP# is asserted, processor core voltage
(VCC) must be removed within the timeframe defined in Table 10.