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[XC] Jaco
03-24-2007, 06:55 AM
Just bought a cpu an hour ago , Intel E4300.
This will be my first Intel system in years (my last intel cpu was a p3 450Mhz)
Hopefully i have some time tomorrow to assemble.
In the picture you'll see:
- Gigabyte DS3 rev3.3
- Intel E4300 CoreDuo
- 2x1 GB CellShock DDR2 800
- XFX 6800 GS XXX
- Seasonic 600w psu
- 160 Gb Sata2 HD
- Thermalright XP-90
Question : I only have 4 ports on my router and now i have 5 computers. Can i just plug in another 4 port router so i connect 7 pc's ?
njkid32
03-24-2007, 07:01 AM
Do any of your current systems have dual ethernet inputs? I know when I didnt have a router I used my laptop through my desktop.. You just need to setup a sepp network for them to work.. "this computer connects through another computer" "this computer connects directly to the internet other computers connect through this computer" LOL if that makes any sense to you:)
Martijn
03-24-2007, 07:01 AM
Tried bridged networking? Just put in another NIC in one of the computers, go to my network places, select the 2 NICs and select 'bridge connections'. Then get a crossed cable and plug the other system in and it's off to go :)
EDIT: basically what NJKid said :p:
njkid32
03-24-2007, 07:05 AM
You can use a regular cat5 cable you dont need the crossover cable for this to work..
Vapor
03-24-2007, 07:06 AM
XP and Vista's networking wizard are really good at setting up a shared internet conneciton. I use it for my network and it works really well....just use the wizard and it will walk you through (even tell you if/when you need to have cables plugged in)
Just use reg Cat5 or Cat6 cables and it'll set it up for ya lickity-split :)
[XC] Jaco
03-24-2007, 07:10 AM
that's a good idea .
But i would like to have 3 ports on the first floor , and 3 or 4 on the second floor of my house. Can i just connect another 4 port router to the one i'm currently using?
It would be best for me to have one router on the first floor and one on the second floor.
Martijn
03-24-2007, 07:13 AM
Of course you can, but make sure you plug the cable from the other router in the switch and not in the 'internet' port. It will probably work, but you will be unable to communicate with other systems on the network...
[XC] Adywebb
03-24-2007, 07:13 AM
You can use a ethernet switch like this from Netgear (http://www.buynetgear.com/product.asp?sku=1907661) - connect one port from your router to this, then you will have 4 ports available for use upstairs.
No set up required, just plug in and go.
njkid32
03-24-2007, 07:15 AM
Why dont you pickup a 12 port hub.. You could just plug everything into that.
Martijn
03-24-2007, 07:18 AM
Why dont you pickup a 12 port hub.. You could just plug everything into that.
I think he's got trouble with cabling as he wants the other router somewhere else... now he only needs one long cable instead of more :)
Same here, we have:
ADSL2/VoIP router -> wireless/router - wire to attic/my room -> 3Com Superstack 610 24p switch -> cheapo wireless router
nice rig dude..I bet its gonna kick some arse
njkid32
03-24-2007, 07:22 AM
The way I setup here is 2 computers upstairs and 2 downstairs.. The ones upstairs are wireless (it was just easier:)) and the 2 downstairs are wired. I know NickS is selling a netgear router here pretty cheap you could always pick that up and just use 2 routers... OR, you could always add nic's to a few computers and share through each other and just work off the one router you have. This sounds easier:)
mike047
03-24-2007, 07:26 AM
Adywebb;2088264']You can use a ethernet switch like this from Netgear (http://www.buynetgear.com/product.asp?sku=1907661) - connect one port from your router to this, then you will have 4 ports available for use upstairs.
No set up required, just plug in and go.
I second this method, all 46 of my boxes are daisy chained through switches to a single router. My farm is in three seperate locations in my house.
hint; always buy the 8 port over the 5 port switch, if the port is unused it hurts nothing and you have extras for more boxes:D
njkid32
03-24-2007, 07:29 AM
I second this method, all 46 of my boxes are daisy chained through switches to a single router. My farm is in three seperate locations in my house.
hint; always buy the 8 port over the 5 port switch, if the port is unused it hurts nothing and you have extras for more boxes:D
I always need to leave one open for a bench rig:) For overclocking or even just fixing someone elses computer..
[XC] Adywebb
03-24-2007, 07:38 AM
I second this method, all 46 of my boxes are daisy chained through switches to a single router. My farm is in three seperate locations in my house.
hint; always buy the 8 port over the 5 port switch, if the port is unused it hurts nothing and you have extras for more boxes:D
Very good point Mike - I'm having to buy an 8-port myself as I've just run out of ports with the 5-port :up:
@Jaco - I would post you my old 5-port but I suspect the postage will outweigh just getting one yourself?
[XC] serlv
03-24-2007, 07:50 AM
I use a 4 port router and have 18 or 20 or 24 PCs connected.. I just use some 8 and 16 port switches that are connected to the router.
Theoretically, a 4 port router can support 253 computers.
Unless you have some specific reason to want to use another router, you don't need it. All you'd need if you don't use Windows Internet Connection sharing is a hub or switch. You can pickup a switch for twenty or thirty bucks.
Martijn
03-24-2007, 07:51 AM
serlv;2088305']I use a 4 port router and have 18 or 20 or 24 PCs connected.. I just use some 8 and 16 port switches that are connected to the router.
Theoretically, a 4 port router can support 253 computers.
Unless you have some specific reason to want to use another router, you don't need it. All you'd need if you don't use Windows Internet Connection sharing is a hub or switch. You can pickup a switch for twenty or thirty bucks.
My 24-port supports up to 16000... Future-proof :D :D
[XC] serlv
03-24-2007, 08:00 AM
Between alacusa, shootstraight, DDtung, mike and a few others we may be able to use that...
mike047
03-24-2007, 08:27 AM
My 24-port supports up to 16000... Future-proof :D :D
MAYBE:D
Movieman
03-24-2007, 08:45 AM
When you can buy a Netgear 8 port gigabit switch for $52.00 it's a no brainer:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122111
sierra_bound
03-24-2007, 08:56 AM
A switch is definitely the way to go. Shop around for cheapest prices. Here's an 8-port gigabit switch for only $40.
http://www.provantage.com/trendnet-teg-s80txe~7TDWG00N.htm
an0nym0us
03-24-2007, 12:05 PM
Jaco;2088254']that's a good idea .
But i would like to have 3 ports on the first floor , and 3 or 4 on the second floor of my house. Can i just connect another 4 port router to the one i'm currently using?
It would be best for me to have one router on the first floor and one on the second floor.
use a switch... no need for two routers.
[XC] Jaco
03-24-2007, 03:25 PM
Thanks for the info guys :)
My networking knowledge is pretty poor as you can see. (I'm an AS/400 system admin )
A switch it will be.
jspace
03-24-2007, 03:55 PM
Definitely get a switch over a router. Unless you want to separate the networks. My modem is a wireless router as well. Hooked into that is a D-Link DI-524 Wireless router. To get the two on the same network you have to sacrifice a port (ie. ignore the WAN port), disable DHCP, firewall, and port forwarding on the second router. Then set manually DNS and gateway to whatever the IP of the main router is. Basically, its a PITA and not worth it. I also have a switch, but I plan to use that for something else. If only I could find my 5-port hub for Xbox LANs. *sigh*
What I'm saying is: Get a switch instead.
If anyone is wondering, I got the D-Link for free;) Wait, the switch was free too:woot:
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