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Gorod
03-20-2007, 01:15 PM
7600GT from BFG with very bad memory :nono: (only 800MHz and severely bandwith starved :mad: ) :

Aquamark benched with 1GHz Core :D

X6800 @ 4000MHz , 1.60V , 444x9.0
Swiftech Storm + MCP655
eVGA 680i
4x512Mb Corsair 8000UL , 444MHz @ 4-3-3-8-2T , 2.45V
7600GT BFG OC , 256Mb DDR3 Samsung 1.4ns @ 951/802 MHz
1.78V GPU , 2.02V mem
VGA Cooling : Dry Ice w/ Solid Alu MM container


3DMark06 : 5183

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=1497427

3DMark05 : 9056

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1592850

3DMark03 : 20368

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=5269514

3DMark01 : 50346

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9169770

Aquamark3 : 146999 (http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/1853/146999iu6.gif)

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8460/51839518024000bh1.gif

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6096/90569518024000ch7.gif

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6976/203689518024000bb5.gif

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/8355/503469518024000ko3.gif

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8115/146999cj3.gif


http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/2585/016ee1.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8977/017mz7.jpg

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/571/013ez4.jpg

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/3987/014rk9.jpg

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8622/015xx8.jpg

josty2
03-20-2007, 01:41 PM
woohooew :clap::clap:
Quite the result... maybe with a bit more volts, you could even run 1GHz on the core through a 3dmark run... and how many volts is there on the memory? (nvm, saw it in your post)
Nice work!

Omastar
03-20-2007, 01:43 PM
I was hoping for 1GHz/1GHz. ;) Nice results.

Gorod
03-20-2007, 01:51 PM
woohooew :clap::clap:
Quite the result... maybe with a bit more volts, you could even run 1GHz on the core through a 3dmark run... and how many volts is there on the memory? (nvm, saw it in your post)
Nice work!

1GHz on the core only for Aquamark3 , i did try more VGPU (up to 1.90V) but it looks like the card is power limited because of no external power connector :slapass: RAM on that card is realy BAD :mad: , no matter what it wont go past 800MHz and with more Vmem it clocks worst :confused:
I was going to put CPU under Dry Ice too but decided its just not worth it with a weak card like that .


I was hoping for 1GHz/1GHz. ;) Nice results.

Maybe next time with a better card :toast:

Will upload pics in a moment :)

lowfat
03-20-2007, 02:49 PM
Your 05 score is a little low. The 05 one says it is with a AMD64 + a much lower clocked card.

Big_Sam
03-20-2007, 03:04 PM
Gorod
Check up GPU frequency in Return To Proxycon in 05Mark... This is not 951Mhz :)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2783759 (this is only 880)

Gorod
03-20-2007, 03:22 PM
Your 05 score is a little low. The 05 one says it is with a AMD64 + a much lower clocked card.

This card is bandwith starved , only 128bit bus and 800MHz on rams . She needs good clocking mem in order to archieve a good score . Increasing GPU clocks from 850 to 950 resulted in only +400 points ( 3d05 ) :(


Gorod
Check up GPU frequency in Return To Proxycon in 05Mark... This is not 951Mhz :)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2783759 (this is only 880)

Big_Sam
with 800MHz on RAM's ? I see 900MHz on your screenshot from 3d05 compare link :p: and thats at least another +1000 points :) Can you please show me 9.5K with 800MHz on mem ?

Big_Sam
03-20-2007, 03:43 PM
Big_Sam
with 800MHz on RAM's ? I see 900MHz on your screenshot from 3d05 compare link :p: and thats at least another +1000 points :) Can you please show me 9.5K with 800MHz on mem ?

Yes :) with 800Mhz RAM.
I tell you not about all 05 but only about the first test in it.
I have made many experiences with my 7600GT.
I could OC my GPU up to 920Mhz, but received approximately same as you.
Now I unfortunately have given my 7600 for BT4 to Moscow and I can't make result which you ask. :(

Gorod
03-20-2007, 04:16 PM
Big_Sam You think it is because the card wasn't stable enough ? I did try with lower clocks on GPU (926MHz) and it scored lower - 8941 .

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/1958/89419268024000lq1.th.gif (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=89419268024000lq1.gif)

then i upped to 951MHz and got +100 points :)

The only reason i can think of is that the card was very bandwith limited by 800MHz rams :(


Yes :) with 800Mhz RAM.

Can you find that screenshot ? :)


Now I unfortunately have given my 7600 for BT4 to Moscow and I can't make result which you ask. :(

I hope your card survives thru that task :D

I will try a few other cards next week , hope i can find one with good clocking ram :toast:

Big_Sam
03-20-2007, 11:06 PM
Big_Sam You think it is because the card wasn't stable enough ? I did try with lower clocks on GPU (926MHz) and it scored lower - 8941 .

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/1958/89419268024000lq1.th.gif (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=89419268024000lq1.gif)

then i upped to 951MHz and got +100 points :)

The only reason i can think of is that the card was very bandwith limited by 800MHz rams :

Don't you really see that in attempt with 926Mhz, GPU has lowered frequency at GT3 - Canyon Flight ?
In this attempt you have more fps in Return To Proxycon than in attempt on 950Mhz !!! LoL
Is not seems it strange to you? :)

I have found for comparison one my old result on the same card.
There memory was 100Mhz faster and GPU 70Mhz slowly.

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1663/newmodtestai5.th.gif (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newmodtestai5.gif)

Compare it to my result with GPU 880Mhz. :)
I think that at GPU more than 900Mhz and 800Mhz memory, result in GT1 - Return To Proxycon can,t be lower than 40fps under any circumstances.

zakelwe
03-21-2007, 01:19 AM
The score in GT3 Canyon is pretty good. Maybe instability in GT1 at that core speed or maybe the RAM is causing instability. What happens with the RAM at 750 and the core at 950 ? That would at least show the RAM is not causing low score.

Regards

Andy

Gorod
03-21-2007, 04:57 AM
Big_Sam
Don't you really see that in attempt with 926Mhz, GPU has lowered frequency at GT3 - Canyon Flight ?
In this attempt you have more fps in Return To Proxycon than in attempt on 950Mhz !!! LoL
Is not seems it strange to you? :)

:confused:
You are confusing me :) , i just rechecked both results and everything looks higher with 951MHz compared to 926MHz including Return to Proxycon :)

926MHz Vs. 951MHz :

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1411/8941wp8.gifhttp://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2848/9056pu8.gif




I have found for comparison one my old result on the same card.
There memory was 100Mhz faster and GPU 70Mhz slowly.

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1663/newmodtestai5.th.gif (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newmodtestai5.gif)

Compare it to my result with GPU 880Mhz. :)


Thank you for finding that result , i compared it to your 9.5K run :toast: This is a perfect example of how bandwidth limited this card is :) Too bad you don't have 7600GT on hand right now so we can do clock to clock compare :(


I think that at GPU more than 900Mhz and 800Mhz memory, result in GT1 - Return To Proxycon can,t be lower than 40fps under any circumstances.

And who has lower then 40 fps in GT1 ? :confused: Nobody :p: :)


The score in GT3 Canyon is pretty good. Maybe instability in GT1 at that core speed or maybe the RAM is causing instability.

Regards

Andy

Hey zakelwe :toast:
Now i am 99% :) sure that low score was due to slow memory :( Card was very stable at 950MHz , it passed 3D06 multiple times , same thing with 05 and 03 . Besides it scored a little more (+100 points) with 950MHz GPU compared to 926MHz (i too was not happy with result and decided to rebench with lower GPU just to make sure its not due to instability and apparently that was not the case :) ) .


What happens with the RAM at 750 and the core at 950 ? That would at least show the RAM is not causing low score.

Thats a great idea , i still have container installed so it should not be a big problem to rebench the card soon , with lower mem speeds like you said , and demonstrate how very bandwidth starved she is at high gpu clocks :fact: And even a better idea is to get a better card with higher clocking ram :D

Big_Sam
03-21-2007, 07:59 AM
Too bad you don't have 7600GT on hand right now so we can do clock to clock compare :(


Yes, I also have some not clear problems which demand comparison of several various results.
But I didn't know that so it will turn out. :(
For today I have only a pair 7300GT DDR3 and I wait for new cards.

skylinepower
03-25-2007, 02:05 AM
is 7600GS like god to?
think of buy it, the 7600gs

master_gokhan
04-03-2007, 12:11 PM
cool scores with that small card :clap: