since johnny doesn't like XClio...

[SlicerSV]

i want a quiet, cool, but decently powered psu.

80mm or smaller fans are out of the question, it needs to have a 120mm or larger top/bottom mounted fan.

I'm going to be oc'ing a single core socket 939 Athlon 64 and a GeForce 7950 GT, have 1 DVD+/-RW drive, 2 hard drives, all SATA, and a Terratec Aureon Universe sound card (has a pretty high comparable power draw for sound cards). there'll also be plenty of fans. 2 120mm, 1 80mm on the case, 2 80mm on a bracket over my add-on cards, and 2 80mm on a bracket over my ram, and one of those over-sized cpu heatpipe/fan things.

i estimate my power needs to be around 500 watt here. maybe 700.

recommend away. if you think that the XClio already fits the bill just fine and i should ignore johnny, who everyone seems to respect around here, go ahead and say that too.

links to XClio PSU's: StablePower 500W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817189014), X14S4P3 (GreatPower, iirc) 500W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817189012), GreatPower 700W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817189009)

StablePower's have no modular cables at all, GreatPower's have everything modular except the mainboard and ATX+12v power (unless they recently started modularizing the ATX+12v as well, been a while since i've been on the market for a PSU).

I've worked a lot with XClio PSU's and personally love them. think they are wonderful little quietly efficient products. Their cases seem a little OTT to me, but no one said you have to like everything from a manufacturer just because you like one thing.

[Hicks]

Corsair 520W HX:) 120mm fan, quite, chap enough.

700W is totaly overkill for that PC.

[Oklahoma Wolf]

I must have missed something - I don't recall ever hearing jonnyGURU bashing XClio.

Any of the models mentioned will do the job.

Edit - are you referring to this thread? http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=136154

The high watt XClios are now Enhance, who seems to be having some issues keeping their designs over 750W working as well as they should. It is the specific design of the XClio models alluded to that jonnyGURU is objecting to, not XClio in general.

[SlicerSV]

I must have missed something - I don't recall ever hearing jonnyGURU bashing XClio.

Any of the models mentioned will do the job.

Edit - are you referring to this thread? http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=136154

The high watt XClios are now Enhance, who seems to be having some issues keeping their designs over 750W working as well as they should. It is the specific design of the XClio models alluded to that jonnyGURU is objecting to, not XClio in general.

nah, he's never bashed them outside of that thread that i'm aware of, but he's frequently given lower scores to the entire range of XClio PSU's. "not liking" doesn't necessarily mean "bash"

and he didn't really even bash them in that thread either, just said that they weren't the "best", yet again.

i noticed in jonny's review of the HX520W that it's fan is supposedly a little on the loud side (meaning whiny...) would it be better to take the leap for the HX620W for the less whiny fan? i really shouldn't need more than around 500w, 520w being within range, but if the fan whines... whines are harder to drown out than any "regular" noise.

or just stick with the XClio 500w? i know those fans are good, they're yate loon :)

[Oklahoma Wolf]

and he didn't really even bash them in that thread either, just said that they weren't the "best", yet again.

He's right about that too - they aren't the best ;)

Other than that, he's never tested an XClio, so I'm not sure what "lower scores" you're referring to.

I think I'd go for the Stablepower - those are lower watt Enhance units which I've been recommending quite a bit lately. But, it also bears mentioning that the Enhance 80+ version of that unit is about the same price over at eWiz - ENP-5150GH.

[SlicerSV]

He's right about that too - they aren't the best ;)

Other than that, he's never tested an XClio, so I'm not sure what "lower scores" you're referring to.

I think I'd go for the Stablepower - those are lower watt Enhance units which I've been recommending quite a bit lately. But, it also bears mentioning that the Enhance 80+ version of that unit is about the same price over at eWiz - ENP-5150GH.

i'd like to know what to really compare them to, until very recently they were the only widely available PSU's with the large fans instead of the 80mm ones. so what can really be better than the "only" in a particular niche? granted, they aren't the only anymore, but all the other 120mm+ fanned PSU's seem to have come on to the market without me really hearing about them.

no, he's never reviewed one, so he's never given them a score on that, but he has tested it's cousin, i think it was tt who was also using the same OEM's parts? he rated that one poorly, and anytime anyones ever mentioned either of them he's told them to look elsewhere unless the price point and type of fan were of utmost importance to them. i couldn't think of any other shorter way of saying this paragraph than "lower scores"

as for the enhance 80-plus version, thanks for the tip, but i'll go ahead and give XClio my business on this one, i don't think there seems to be any real difference between them as far as output goes, and 80-plus cert is of little importance to me. newegg has the XClio unit and some other parts i need, so i'll prefer to attempt to get everything in one shipment :)

[Oklahoma Wolf]

i'd like to know what to really compare them to

Off the top of my head, the whole Seasonic S12 line is better built with a far more advanced fan controller. They've been doing big fans for quite some time now.

[SlicerSV]

the S12 series wasn't widely available at a decent price point for nearly as long as the XClio's... i did mention it's been a while since i was on the market for a psu? i hold on to a psu once i buy it until it dies... so i've got older systems still around using power supplies from a decade ago :)

i typically only buy a power supply when i'm doing a completely new build and not tossing out the old system. i'm building a completely new system, so i was back on the market again :)

yes, if you dig around a little you can still find single core athlon 64's. and they're dirt cheap too. i'm not quite ready for multi-core yet. i'll go multi-core when amd goes ddr3. (long time)

[SlicerSV]

I think I'd go for the Stablepower - those are lower watt Enhance units which I've been recommending quite a bit lately. But, it also bears mentioning that the Enhance 80+ version of that unit is about the same price over at eWiz - ENP-5150GH.

hey, it turns out there's a fan controller i want from ewiz. newegg's fan controller lineup is quite miserable. i priced things out, and it'll cost me 32 coppers more to get the newer enhance model from eWiz compared to the XClio from newegg. do you think the new model is worth that? if not, they've also got the older model at ewiz for a few bucks less, so i could save some money. but i like XClio's wire sleeving, so i won't, unless enhance does sleeving? :P

[Oklahoma Wolf]

I don't know if Enhance does any sleeving, but I'd prefer the higher efficiency model myself. Your call in the end ;)

[davidhammock200]

If you already have the XCilo keep using it,
if not either the XCilo or Enhance will be fine, with the edge going to the Enhance.

[GloryField]

try a Antec Trio 650W, nice and cheap, 52 A on 12v, low ripple, read johnny's review. However, if you go over 52A u'd have to RMA it, but with ur rig it shouldnt even go over 40A. I got mine for $65 after rebate from outpost in february, already got my rebate cashed in.