Win32 SMP Client now available

[Scimitar]

It's in early beta.

http://forum.folding-community.org/fpost172012.html#172012

Trying it now on my Opteron 175.

Post results / frame times here.

[sc00p]

Thanx for monitoring official forums... it's work for the team important also :)

Might as well put the direct link here: click (http://www.stanford.edu/~kasson/folding/Folding@Home%20Windows%20SMP%20Client.EXE)

As there is said... bugs will happen and work will lost... IT'S BETA! (so no whining if EUEs come... those should be reported at official forums (http://forum.folding-community.org/forum60,smp-for-windows-beta.html))

Great finding again Scimitar... keep us posted! :toast:

[Scimitar]

Looking good so far, about 35 minutes a frame or 600ppd. More than double of 2 Supervillans.

[jimwah]

Well spotted man, this is great news :up:

[SparkyJJO]

Running it now on my borrowed parts from my friend. FahMon doesn't know what it is exactly though so I don't know what PPD I'm getting from it. I'm running a borrowed X2 3800+ @ 2.6GHz right now.

[MikalCarbine]

What does this client mean? Faster times for each WU?

[dicecca112]

Running it now on my borrowed parts from my friend. FahMon doesn't know what it is exactly though so I don't know what PPD I'm getting from it. I'm running a borrowed X2 3800+ @ 2.6GHz right now.

if you get the modified version of FahMon by uncle-fungus and get his modified psummary, it works just fine. Time per frame is about 30s less than running VMware Linux

[[XC] moddolicous]

I think it just saves time from having to load and install 2 versions. Also, this will probably have its own projects (which means no 21XX projects).

[dicecca112]

right now the benefits is that your CPU is loaded 100% on one client, and the points. upwards of 1760 points on a single WU that takes 11-13mins per frame.

[SparkyJJO]

if you get the modified version of FahMon by uncle-fungus and get his modified psummary, it works just fine. Time per frame is about 30s less than running VMware Linux

OK, where do I get that? I haven't found it...

[sc00p]

OK, where do I get that? I haven't found it...Look here (http://fahmon.fahinfo.org/)... I do not have the time check through...

[angra]

Is it working for you guys? I am getting a lot of errors, but no actual CPU usage...


[14:30:03] Verifying core Core_a1.fah...
[14:30:03] Signature is VALID
[14:30:03]
[14:30:03] Trying to unzip core FahCore_a1.exe
[14:30:03] Decompressed FahCore_a1.exe (2035712 bytes) successfully
[14:30:03] + Core successfully engaged
[14:30:03] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[14:30:11] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[14:30:11] + Attempting to get work packet
[14:30:11] - Connecting to assignment server
[14:30:12] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[14:30:12] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[14:30:12] Loaded queue successfully.
[14:30:12] - Error: Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[14:30:26] + Attempting to get work packet
[14:30:26] - Connecting to assignment server
[14:30:27] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[14:30:27] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[14:30:27] Loaded queue successfully.
[14:30:35] + Closed connections
[14:30:40]
[14:30:40] + Processing work unit
[14:30:40] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[14:30:40] Core found.
[14:30:40] Working on Unit 04 [March 19 14:30:40]
[14:30:40] + Working ...
[14:30:49] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[14:30:49] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[14:30:49] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[14:30:57] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[14:31:05] + Attempting to get work packet
[14:31:05] - Connecting to assignment server
[14:31:06] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[14:31:06] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[14:31:06] Loaded queue successfully.
[14:31:15] + Closed connections
[14:31:20]
[14:31:20] + Processing work unit
[14:31:20] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[14:31:20] Core found.
[14:31:20] Working on Unit 05 [March 19 14:31:20]
[14:31:20] + Working ...
[14:31:28] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[14:31:28] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[14:31:28] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[14:31:36] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[14:31:36] + Attempting to get work packet
[14:31:36] - Connecting to assignment server
[14:31:36] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[14:31:36] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[14:31:36] Loaded queue successfully.
[14:31:45] + Closed connections
[14:31:50]
[14:31:50] + Processing work unit
[14:31:50] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[14:31:50] Core found.
[14:31:50] Working on Unit 06 [March 19 14:31:50]
[14:31:50] + Working ...
[14:31:58] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[14:31:58] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[14:31:58] - Attempting to download new core...
[14:31:58] + Downloading new core: FahCore_a1.exe

[jimwah]

Mine seemed to fire up ok this morning before I left for work, and appeared to be using 100% cpu also. I'll see what state it's in when I get home, I was getting ~20mins a frame on the biggies in VMware, I'm reading that Win32 might not be as efficient as I thought - and that VMware might still be the way to go.... I'll find out later, if it made it past frame #1.

the -1 error ....

5. Troubleshooting:

If the client reports an error code -1, it is likely due to an mpi problem. Try re-registering mpiexec by running mpiexec –register or install.bat.

I had to set a password on my windows account to get it fired up & authenticated too, that & allowing the components when Windows Firewall complains during the install.

edit - are you in the UK at the moment angra? - I ask because the timestamps apear to be ~14:30 on your fah output there ;)

[Scimitar]

Do you have .Net 2.0 installed?

Mine is at about 28% on a 1,500 point work unit with no errors so far.

[jimwah]

Do you have .Net 2.0 installed?

Good point, I had to update this on my machine too :fact:

[angra]

Do you have .Net 2.0 installed?

Mine is at about 28% on a 1,500 point work unit with no errors so far.

heh, probably not. I will check on this stuff.

I guess I am spoiled on the linux clients "just working" :)

[dicecca112]

yeah really, I'm personally thinking that its easier to run it in a VM than it is to do natively. Too much of a pita and too many bugs so far.

[angra]

I am not in the UK, sorry!

I don't know what is making the timezones off and I am too lazy to fix it! :)

everything runs fine now, I just had to do the install.bat thing. far be it for me to actually read instructions.

[SparkyJJO]

I've been crunching using the SMP client since yesterday late afternoon and I'm at 39%, running on a borrowed X2 3800+ @ 2.6GHz. No errors yet. This sound about right? It is a project 2610, not sure on its pointage yet. Looking in that link that sc00p provided for the modded FahMon now.

*EDIT* I got it downloaded, 1523 ponts, 645 PPD. I wonder how it would go on my opty 165 @ 2.8GHz. I was getting more PPD from my X1900XT + a separate CPU client going. Guess we'll see what happens, but I'll at least keep running it until I get my parts back from warranty. Now if I pick up a dual core CPU for one of my dedicated crunchers I'll put the SMP client on there for sure.

[jimwah]

Getting about 17 mins/frame on a p2652 here...

Project 2610: 1523 points, deadline 4 days
Project 2651: 1760 points, deadline 4 days
Project 2652: 1148 points, deadline 3 days

Doesn't look so good considering VMware kicks out a 1760-pointer at 20 mins/frame. Still not bad though...

edit> on a stock e6400 btw

[embeejay]

woops i didn't see this thread when i started the other one... my bad, sorry for the useless thread i made :s

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

now the big question: what if we run the GPU client? should we stick to non-SMP client + GPU or SMP + GPU? Hmm.

[jimwah]

The Win32 SMP was using 100% CPU when I ran a unit, so there probably isnt the spare CPU time by default - if you set it to 90% or 80% utilisation, then maybe you'd have enough CPU time to run the GPU client alongside it too :shrug: Make a note of your frame times on the SMP & GPU clients running on their own, then have a play with running them together (and setting priority/utilisation in the client setup) & see how the frame times are affected.

[SparkyJJO]

With a dual core CPU running the SMP client I wouldn't run the GPU client with it since each core is already busy with 2 threads. Now a quad core system might be worth it - my friend (servin247365) is trying that out on his dual FX-70's and was getting 12 minutes or so per frame on the GPU client with a minimal impact on the SMP client. We'll see how that goes.

[Scimitar]

I got project 2651 now. It seams much better suited to a dual core Athlon64. Getting better frame times than 2610, despite being worth more than 200 more points.

[amrgb]

I can back you up on that.

On a X2 3800@2.75 with 4GB of ram (2T) I was getting the following:
- 2610: ~37min per frame => ~590ppd
- 2651: ~24min per frame => ~1050ppd

That's a hell of a difference. I think 2610 is heavily dependent on cache and ram timings. 512KB cache and 2T ram doesn't help.

[embeejay]

project 2610 definitely seems to be quite heavy - could be a lack of optimization in the client tho... lets see how it evolves

[TopherTony]

Launch directory: E:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01
Executable: E:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01\fah.exe


[17:51:55] - Ask before connecting: No
[17:51:55] - User name: Tonymontana1187 (Team 36362)
[17:51:55] - User ID: 4B299BA60ED9D5E6
[17:51:55] - Machine ID: 1
[17:51:55]
[17:51:56] Loaded queue successfully.
[17:51:56] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[17:51:56] + Attempting to get work packet
[17:51:56] - Connecting to assignment server
[17:52:17] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[17:52:17] + Could not connect to Assignment Server
[17:52:38] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[17:52:38] + Could not connect to Assignment Server 2
[17:52:38] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[17:52:38] - Error: Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[17:52:49] + Attempting to get work packet
[17:52:49] - Connecting to assignment server
[17:53:10] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[17:53:10] + Could not connect to Assignment Server
[17:53:31] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[17:53:31] + Could not connect to Assignment Server 2
[17:53:31] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[17:53:31] - Error: Attempt #2 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[17:53:44] + Attempting to get work packet
[17:53:44] - Connecting to assignment server
[17:54:05] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[17:54:05] + Could not connect to Assignment Server
[17:54:26] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[17:54:26] + Could not connect to Assignment Server 2
[17:54:26] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[17:54:26] - Error: Attempt #3 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.

I am getting this error. Any thoughts? :confused:

[TopherTony]

I think i found the problem...the stanford servers are down for maintenance until noon pst

[sc00p]

I think i found the problem...the stanford servers are down for maintenance until noon pst
LOL... was just about to post same as you... can't even go there -> http://fah-web.stanford.edu/serverstat.html :(

:Dso now I've got little more time to play with my QuadGT just fetched

[mad mikee]

+ 1 :doh:
LOL... was just about to post same as you... can't even go there -> http://fah-web.stanford.edu/serverstat.html :(

[TopherTony]

ok well that didnt solve the problem as the servers are back up and my smp client still cannot connect to find any work units



# SMP Client ################################################## ################
################################################## #############################

Folding@Home Client Version 5.91beta

http://folding.stanford.edu

################################################## #############################
################################################## #############################

Launch directory: E:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01
Executable: E:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01\fah.exe


[19:54:19] - Ask before connecting: No
[19:54:19] - User name: Tonymontana1187 (Team 36362)
[19:54:19] - User ID: 4B299BA60ED9D5E6
[19:54:19] - Machine ID: 1
[19:54:19]
[19:54:19] Loaded queue successfully.
[19:54:19] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[19:54:19] + Attempting to get work packet
[19:54:19] - Connecting to assignment server
[19:54:40] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[19:54:40] + Could not connect to Assignment Server
[19:54:40] - Successful: assigned to (0.0.0.0).
[19:54:40] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[19:54:40] Work Unit has an invalid address.
[19:54:40] - Error: Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.

Folding@Home Client Shutdown at user request.

Folding@Home Client Shutdown.

[SparkyJJO]

Well it is still in beta. The one unit I ran was fine, filesize was just too huge for the poor connection here at home.

[Fuji]

I tried it and got around 45 min/frame. Overclocked the CPU 600 MHz and it was around 35. It was then that I decided to ditch the SMP (for now).

[Carpe^Diem]

Im doing 14mins 20 secs per frame, on the 2651 ( about 23,5 hours total ).. if thats right that it gives 1760 points, im gonna get a nice PPD ratio.

[TopherTony]

ok i got it to work, who knows whatever

project 2651 at 11 min per frame

qx6700 at 2.666 g

[TopherTony]

just an update OC'd to 3.57 ghz and it cut the times down from 11mpf to just over 8mpf

well i dont know if 'frame' is the right way to put it, more like 8 min per 1% completed

[Carpe^Diem]

Nice TopherTony :), cant wait for a quad!

[TopherTony]

going to wait til this project is finished and back it off to about 3G
the temps are nuts for this thing, even on water
its not even safe
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/5559/spdfanpk9.jpg

[embeejay]

ouch :)

I ran mine for a long time on air oc'ed to 3.3G, but it started to act very starnge, and i've had to dial all the way down to 2.6G now to be sure everything runs stable in the long run... seems orthos is less reliable for testing stability than i thought... orthos would run fine for hours on end on a system that would throw random errors when working with compression & encryption in parallel (decompressing compressed files from an encrypted harddrive for instance)

[Kunaak]

doesnt even let me install it.

when I get to the password part of the install I cant do anything.
I enter the password... but no letters show up.
nothing happens.
it just stops working at the password part of the install.

[TopherTony]

@ kunaak
when you get to the password part, enter your password as normally, no characters will show up but it is the programs way of keeping your pass secret
just try it
it works

[Scimitar]

Well, I'm giving up on this client for now. I've had 3 work units stall at 90 to 95% done. Of cource checkpointing is disabled in the beta so restarting the client looses all of the work. When it runs better and they add checkpointing, I give it another try.

[embeejay]

checkpoints work fine on all my beta smp clients both windows and linux

[Scimitar]

Hmm, mine always says disabled. Any ideas on how to fix this?

[vaio]

Just in case anyone is unaware..........disconnecting your network/internet stops the client.
If you need to disconnect stop your smp client first, then fire it up again after disconnecting.

[embeejay]

scimitar: not a clue sorry - it has always worked right out of the box for me - when i install the client it's a standard part of the configuration to set he checkpoint interval - i always leave it at the default 15 min and it works flawlessly.

Maybe you are OCing a bit to much? I have observed flakey client behavior on OCed machines that seemed stable -F@H is harder to keep stable than orthos, and many people don't realize that...

[Bigchrome]

Is there any way to get the smp client to run without an internet connection? I just unplugged mine and lost an hours work...

[SparkyJJO]

Is there any way to get the smp client to run without an internet connection? I just unplugged mine and lost an hours work...

It should be able to crunch without the connection (it did for me) but it won't be able to upload or download anything until you get the connection back.