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Juggernout
05-31-2003, 04:10 AM
Thread title says all.

Going to get myself a 9800pro next week and i want u to tell me which one is the best !

Thx @ all !:toast:

twiztdskatr
05-31-2003, 05:30 AM
I got mine to 480/370 stock cooling no mods

BrainStorm
05-31-2003, 05:45 AM
Originally posted by twiztdskatr
I got mine to 480/370 stock cooling no mods

You might try letting him know which brand it is...:D

JeffPH
05-31-2003, 05:58 AM
Sapphire a good brand? this is the only 9800 pro in our country :)

ChuNjeH
05-31-2003, 06:15 AM
its the luck of the draw with sapphires.. some OC great, some OC maybe 10-20 mhz MAX.... i would try my best to get a hercules 9800 pro.. maybe from like newegg.. if they do international shipping

JeffPH
05-31-2003, 06:17 AM
unfortunately newegg doest ship, and Outpost still doesnt have the ATI on stock till now :L(

emp
05-31-2003, 06:56 AM
460 / 380 with Zalman MEGASUPERBIG heatsink and a 92mm@5.5v blowing at it. Never tried with default hsf. Only thing I've heard is that memory clocks lower with Zalmans heatsink. (It's a Sapphire btw)

twiztdskatr
05-31-2003, 06:59 AM
It's my secret .....;)

PowerColor 9800 Pro Retail :D

GVCryan
05-31-2003, 07:05 AM
I have tried multiple, got bored at Compusa one day, bought 2, and took em back. Then ordered one online, and RMA'd it.

It was fun while it lasted.

(I didn't try mem on any of them since it is a negligible performance gain, and can be easily altered by airflow)

The Visiontek was the best for me, it hit 471 stock. The ATI couldn't break 438 stock. The Powercolour hit a solid 450.

All of these were overclocked to the point where artifacts first appeared.

I didn't get blackscreened with the Visiontek until 501, 474 with the ATI, and I didn't have time with the Powercolour.

Hope this helps.

BTW, Sapphire is the OEM for ATI. So any ATI card you buy that isn't in retail packaging is a Sapphire.

Juggernout
05-31-2003, 08:02 AM
Here in Austria/ Middle europe i can get:

- Sapphire
- Power Color (which is my favourite ! ;))
- Hercules (2 of my friends got them and they dont overclock well..)
- Club-3D
- Connect 3D
- Gigabyte Maya II

U see there are quite a lot !

please post more 9800pro clocks !

thx

naughty_guy
05-31-2003, 05:17 PM
I got a China made Ati 9800pro 128, clocks are 47x/374

JeffPH
05-31-2003, 05:24 PM
naughty_guy is this the yellow box? with no name on it?

gokickrocks
05-31-2003, 05:51 PM
i have a sapphire that does 494/372 out of the box

Major
05-31-2003, 07:09 PM
First of all welcome to the Xtreme forums Juggernout !! ;) glad to see you here !

I have an built by ATI R9800pro, I don't know if this will help you or not, I never ran it with the stock hs. With the MCW50-T and ramsinks I was able to OC 485/385. After Vmod for gpu I'm able to do 510 with no artifacts, it will go to 52x before locking up. No change with ram oc after vmod.

Good luck with your purchase.

Juggernout
05-31-2003, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by gokickrocks
i have a sapphire that does 494/372 out of the box

Awesome ! :slobber:

--

Guess i will get myself a Sapphire baby ! ;)
I got to know a shopkeeper who will test it before giving it to me !

:D

Yeah !

Kunaak
05-31-2003, 08:22 PM
505/385.

unmodded outta the box.
Powercolor.

shortcircuit
05-31-2003, 10:38 PM
567/391. Using a Sapphire 9800 Pro with vgpu (1.9v), vddr(3.1v), and vref(1.5v) voltmods, ramsinks on the memory, and an old slot-1 vapochill on the gpu core.

With a little more voltage, 570 core might be possible. 600 core would be cccccoool :D

naughty_guy
05-31-2003, 10:56 PM
whoa.. nice man.

Juggernout
06-01-2003, 05:40 AM
Ok now its getting harder.

Powercolor or Sapphire.
Kunaaks Card ownz.

@shortcicuit: How high out of the box ?

Cyas

shortcircuit
06-01-2003, 06:36 AM
I got around 480 core out of the box with no artifacts (don't remember the mem speed). Up to 500 core with artifacts. After that I switched to watercooling and got no improvement until I voltmodded the card, then I got 520 core. It did 533 core with a 172w tec.

I personally wish I had a powercolor because some of them have 2ns ddr on them and people are oc'ing the memory on them past 400mhz...

Juggernout
06-01-2003, 06:41 AM
The only Problem is that the Powercolor isnt aviable in Austria at the moment and i dont want to wait 2 weeks cause mine is as good as sold ! :(

So I guess I will get a Sapphire...
But as I said a friend of mine owns a Shop and he can test the card before selling it ! ;)

So i guess i will get a good one... I hope so ;)

cyas

rabeb25
06-01-2003, 07:53 AM
ati oem....
490/380 stock cooling
522/380 with a 172 pelt.....off a 12v power supply
will test with the meanwell soon.

Juggernout
06-01-2003, 10:41 AM
Ati OEM sounds nice too but its not aviable in Middle Europe !

:(

OmegaManOfFire
06-01-2003, 12:38 PM
Reading some of the powercolor ocs, I hope I can do that with the one I just ordered :D

Kunaak
06-01-2003, 12:43 PM
my friend got a Xtasy 9800 pro 2 days ago and we tried it in my PC with watercooling on it, and it did 475/390.
thats not too bad.

the set up is alittle bland cause they don't give you any games or anything, but the card is good.

twiztdskatr
06-01-2003, 12:53 PM
Sapphires are more a luck of the draw, some do horrible :( and some are fantastic :D I prefer my card with its Samsung 2ns ram....I'm gonna pick up some ramsinks soon and vmem mod :)

Good Luck getting a good overclocker :thumbsup:

Juggernout
06-01-2003, 01:04 PM
Hope I will get a good card...:banana:

Next week I m going to get my Barton 2500+ Sweetie and the Radeon Special Edition GPU Cooler (its a watercooling brand in Europe ;)) and a NB Watercooler...

Hope I will breach the 20k line !

Cyas

dttdar
06-01-2003, 06:44 PM
I've got a ATI manufactured card that does 445/375 with a better cooler. But it did 430/375 stock.

DJ_Datte
06-02-2003, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by twiztdskatr
Sapphires are more a luck of the draw, some do horrible :( and some are fantastic :D I prefer my card with its Samsung 2ns ram....I'm gonna pick up some ramsinks soon and vmem mod :)

Good Luck getting a good overclocker :thumbsup:

Sorry mate, but what you have is memory that is specced to run at 350 MHz, and is 2.8ns memory. Its a general misunderstanding that its 2ns mem.

But it OCs well :)

/Damir

[NH]Woxxman
06-02-2003, 01:50 AM
Originally posted by DJ_Datte
Sorry mate, but what you have is memory that is specced to run at 350 MHz, and is 2.8ns memory. Its a general misunderstanding that its 2ns mem.

But it OCs well :)

/Damir

Actually it really is 2.0ns memory on the PowerColor card that twiztdskatr bought. Maybe you thought it was a Sapphire card, but as I said PowerColor uses 2.0ns memory on their board. Unfortunately the memory voltage is lower then on the usual 2.8ns chips so the OC potential isn't that outstanding, with a voltmodd things would surely be different though. If not the PCB also is a limiting factor.
Anyhow you can expect a R9800Pro shoot-out with seven different cards today or tomorrow. ;)
With the PowerColor 2.0ns card included!

DJ_Datte
06-02-2003, 02:09 AM
Originally posted by [NH]Woxxman
Actually it really is 2.0ns memory on the PowerColor card that twiztdskatr bought. Maybe you thought it was a Sapphire card, but as I said PowerColor uses 2.0ns memory on their board. Unfortunately the memory voltage is lower then on the usual 2.8ns chips so the OC potential isn't that outstanding, with a voltmodd things would surely be different though. If not the PCB also is a limiting factor.
Anyhow you can expect a R9800Pro shoot-out with seven different cards today or tomorrow. ;)
With the PowerColor 2.0ns card included!

Actually... no... I have seen the Powercolor card. And I have looked into the thing from .. how should I say.. a engeneering perspective... those chips are 2.8 .. Belive u me :) I do admit I might be wrong, and that his exact example has some 2.0ns memories I have not seen yet, but if so, I would really like to have all the text on his memory chips. Or any other Powercolor card. Becouse if that is so, I know what card I will buy a few examples of :)

/Damir

[NH]Woxxman
06-02-2003, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by DJ_Datte
Actually... no... I have seen the Powercolor card. And I have looked into the thing from .. how should I say.. a engeneering perspective... those chips are 2.8 .. Belive u me :) I do admit I might be wrong, and that his exact example has some 2.0ns memories I have not seen yet, but if so, I would really like to have all the text on his memory chips. Or any other Powercolor card. Becouse if that is so, I know what card I will buy a few examples of :)

/Damir

I might have to rephrase the thing about 2.0ns memory on our card. It seems like PowerColor uses the term “2ns memory” and not exactly 2.0ns memory, our sample were equipped with 2.2ns Hynix chips. It could be the fact that PowerColor actually ships three models of there R9800 Pro cards that messes up the equation. :)
They are shipping an “vanilla” model with 2.8ns memories and as it seems two high-end versions with 2.2ns or 2.0ns memories. At VR-Zone they received a card with 2.0ns Hynix chips as can be seen here (http://www.vr-zone.com/reviews/PowerColor/9800Pro/page2.htm).
Our card used 2.2ns Hynix chips and you can compare the two texts here.

VR-Zone 2.0ns: Hynix HY5DU283222 AF20
NordicHardware 2.2ns: Hynix HY5DU283222 AF22

The strangest thing though is that twiztdskatr says 2.0ns Samsung memory, if that’s true PowerColor also uses Samsung chips which makes things even more complicated. :)

shortcircuit
06-02-2003, 03:10 AM
Um, I don't mean to start any sort of pissing contest, but Powercolor makes cards with both 2ns and 2.8ns chips on them.

DJ_Datte
06-02-2003, 03:47 AM
That might be so, just want to inform, that the memories that MANY have said are 2.0 (Samsung 2A chips) are NOT 2.0 .. people just read 2A and think they are 2.0 which they are NOT, they are 2.8 Memories.

/damir

[NH]Woxxman
06-02-2003, 04:02 AM
Originally posted by DJ_Datte
That might be so, just want to inform, that the memories that MANY have said are 2.0 (Samsung 2A chips) are NOT 2.0 .. people just read 2A and think they are 2.0 which they are NOT, they are 2.8 Memories.

/damir

Ok, if that's the case everything is getting a bit clearer. I haven't heard anything about these Samsung 2A memories before and I only reacted about the fact that PowerColor actually manufactures 9800Pro with 2.2 or 2.0ns memories. The Samsung chips seems to be used on the "vanilla" cards with 2.8ns memories and Hynix is used on the high-end cards!

Tom Holck
06-02-2003, 05:10 AM
One other point.

With Radeon Cards the GRU gets better with the time

I got one of the first 9800pro from ATI. stock 440/365

After prommy cooling, voltmodding etc it goes 522/414 1.85volt/3.50volt

This week I got another card Hercules. Whit the same prommy
cooling voltmodding etc it goes 550 at 1.80volt
The memory is 2.2ns they are funny. Goes 405 no artifachts at 3.6volt.
When I raise just to 407, many artifachts. But when i raise the memvolt to 3.90 it helps for some time.

Can it take 4.0volt ? as my old Gainward 4600:rolleyes:

[NH]Woxxman
06-02-2003, 05:53 AM
Originally posted by Tom Holck
One other point.

With Radeon Cards the GRU gets better with the time

I got one of the first 9800pro from ATI. stock 440/365

After prommy cooling, voltmodding etc it goes 522/414 1.85volt/3.50volt

This week I got another card Hercules. Whit the same prommy
cooling voltmodding etc it goes 550 at 1.80volt
The memory is 2.2ns they are funny. Goes 405 no artifachts at 3.6volt.
When I raise just to 407, many artifachts. But when i raise the memvolt to 3.90 it helps for some time.

Can it take 4.0volt ? as my old Gainward 4600:rolleyes:

As with CPUs the GPU steppings improve with time and the biggest difference would be the first weeks, months I believe as the first samples often are quite immature.
But in your case it could actually be just luck of the draw. As some cards are bad overclockers and some are good, no matter what manufacturing date the have. But in any case you have got quite a boost with your new Hercules card! ;)
How does it respond to 1.85-1.9v on the GPU?

Is the Hercules card equipped with 2.2ns memory chips? Just realised that you wrote 2.2ns.. :)

By the way Tom, what graphics card are you using in your 23772 score at 2001? I have seen your system performance in pifast which is nothing to complain about. Is it the gfx card that's holding you back? Some new scores coming soon perhaps? :)

faruquehabib
06-02-2003, 07:06 AM
i have a bba 9800 pro and didnt even fire it up yet. i instantly ganked the stock hsf for an mcw50. bought it mid may. what kind of ns ram do bba radeon's have? i think it's samsung

OmegaManOfFire
06-02-2003, 10:55 AM
Where do you get the high end cards with 2.0ns or 2.2ns mem. I think the one I ordered is going to be 2.8 as I got it for only 375 usd.

OmegaManOfFire
06-02-2003, 11:11 AM
As long as I can run the card at 700 memory @ cas1 like I could my aiw 9700, I am happy with it.

[NH]Woxxman
06-02-2003, 11:26 AM
The roundup is online now and can be found here for those interested.
- Radeon 9800 Pro roundup - (http://www.nordichardware.com/reviews/graphiccard/2003/Radeon9800Roundup/)

The PowerColor card with 2.2/2.0ns memory isn't available on the market as of yet. Unfortunately it seems like it might take a while longer until it is actually. :(

OmegaManOfFire
06-02-2003, 11:32 AM
Was that 425 core on stock cooling?

[NH]Woxxman
06-02-2003, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by OmegaManOfFire
Was that 425 core on stock cooling?

All overclocking tests were done completely stock with no mods what so ever.

TiTaNiUm
06-02-2003, 01:23 PM
Well i feel cheesed...i bought an ATI 9800pro...only get 430/368..without artifacs..... and no mods..the card is visually Awsome,
so i cant complain..just did the 4, V-Mods
Havent found that sweet spot yet...Plus ive already got the cash in the drawer for the 9900Pro...Waiting S%#KS

OmegaManOfFire
06-02-2003, 02:41 PM
Awesome, I can't wait to get mine, 425 is good enough for me, I hope I can atleast push the mem up to 370-380 as well, regardless of ns.

Juggernout
06-03-2003, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by [NH]Woxxman
The roundup is online now and can be found here for those interested.
- Radeon 9800 Pro roundup - (http://www.nordichardware.com/reviews/graphiccard/2003/Radeon9800Roundup/)

The PowerColor card with 2.2/2.0ns memory isn't available on the market as of yet. Unfortunately it seems like it might take a while longer until it is actually. :(

Thx man !

Happy that i will get a Sapphire ! :banana:

Barracuda
06-03-2003, 10:29 AM
hey m8s can you tell me why i cant run 3dmark when im 220 fsb and default vga core and mem? and relax memory timings ?

ps :i can run prime95 for 12 hours at this configuration
i had install new bios.

Juggernout
06-03-2003, 10:30 AM
K Guys:

Got a message from my shopkeeper friend:

Sapphire 9800 pro does - 465/360 - at Stock cooling !

Good ? Should i take it ?

Mfg

OmegaManOfFire
06-03-2003, 10:51 AM
I say that is good enough :D

Juggernout
06-03-2003, 01:12 PM
But thats not all folks ! :D

He said tomorrow he will check all other 9800pros at his shop and he said maybe there will be a better one und them !

:banana:

Craig
06-03-2003, 03:06 PM
If your friend comes up with much better than the one he's already found for you, you'd better take him to dinner at his favorite resturant.

YOu're lucky to have a friend like that. What a edge to have!!!

OmegaManOfFire
06-03-2003, 03:19 PM
Your friend can get me one that ocs to hell?

Juggernout
06-03-2003, 03:21 PM
Guess not Omega. :D

I hope he finds one which does 480 or more @ stock cooling !
Then i will "water it up" and crack the 20k in the 2001SE :)

Luv having friends like that !

Cyas

Juggernout
06-03-2003, 03:49 PM
Can a 9800pro user do me a favour plz: :)

I need the exact size of the rams on the 9800pro cause a freind of mine will make me ramcooler !

Thx !

OmegaManOfFire
06-03-2003, 05:58 PM
I just order this: http://www.ocsystem.com/thgiiihipeun.html for my 9800 :D Pushing for 450 when I get :D

Juggernout
06-04-2003, 12:52 PM
K guys 2 things:

PLease somebody tell me the size of the rams !

And my card does 470/360 at stockcooling ! :)

Mfh

OmegaManOfFire
06-04-2003, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by Juggernout
And my card does 470/360 at stockcooling ! :)

Nice!

Tom Holck
06-05-2003, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by [NH]Woxxman
As with CPUs the GPU steppings improve with time and the biggest difference would be the first weeks, months I believe as the first samples often are quite immature.
But in your case it could actually be just luck of the draw. As some cards are bad overclockers and some are good, no matter what manufacturing date the have. But in any case you have got quite a boost with your new Hercules card! ;)
How does it respond to 1.85-1.9v on the GPU?

Is the Hercules card equipped with 2.2ns memory chips? Just realised that you wrote 2.2ns.. :)

By the way Tom, what graphics card are you using in your 23772 score at 2001? I have seen your system performance in pifast which is nothing to complain about. Is it the gfx card that's holding you back? Some new scores coming soon perhaps? :)

The 23772 was the old one...

The Hercules now going 551/405 in the 3DMark 2001
thats 24447.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6587453

It can go 558/416 but that is lower.

Tom Holck
06-05-2003, 01:32 PM
Now we have 2 set of Bench 2003 :rolleyes:

version 3.1.3 / 3.2.0

and the new "water proff" version 3.3.0

The Old going 553/409 thats 8041

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=867228

And the new 553/408 thats 7876

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=867623



:D :D

Juggernout
06-05-2003, 02:19 PM
OMG at Tom Holck ! :eek:

AWESOME SCORES !

I'll get my Card tomorrow per Express and built it up on saturday then i'm going to report how far it will go with watercooling :D

Greetz

aNabolic
06-05-2003, 10:50 PM
512/380 with Water. 486/380 with Stock HS/FAN. Had to lower the Core to 506 as its very warm here at the moment and My Rad Fan isnt cooling my Water so good. Just waiting for my AIRCON to arrive :)

Brett

[NH]Woxxman
06-05-2003, 11:45 PM
As already mentioned that's some really nice scores you got going there Tom!

At the moment you actually have no competition in the "water proof" version of 03! :toast:

Once again, great scores Tom and keep up the great work! ;)

PS. When are we going to see some Mach II cooling in the home of the Prometia? If I'm correct you are using a modded Mach I? (two if we take the GPU cooler into account) :D

Juggernout
06-05-2003, 11:50 PM
Nice Card Brett ! :eek:

Got my card 30mins ago. Gotta wait till 2morrow when I get my new Special Edition Radeon Waterblock ! :(

Let's see how far i can push it ! ;)

CYas

Tom Holck
06-07-2003, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by [NH]Woxxman
As already mentioned that's some really nice scores you got going there Tom!

At the moment you actually have no competition in the "water proof" version of 03! :toast:

Once again, great scores Tom and keep up the great work! ;)

PS. When are we going to see some Mach II cooling in the home of the Prometia? If I'm correct you are using a modded Mach I? (two if we take the GPU cooler into account) :D

:D
Here som improvement in 2001;

NH
I don't think Mark II is better than "Old" with R404. Most is better "finish" and cosmetic. The coolinghead of the first Mark I is the best, I think. But We will see.

On the GRU I use a standard "new" Prommeteia, its no need to do R404 here. But the Prommy is a little better than The Vapochill, I used before. The Vapochill was mutch more easy to mount and fit.

The Bench in the new version 3.3.0 in 2003 is 3-4% lover than the old water-"cheat" version. Its mutch harder to doo 7876 new, than 8100 in the old. Lets see what Oppainter and Macci can do.
Besides the lover value it's more easy to "freese" in the water now;) :rolleyes: :D

Juggernout
06-07-2003, 03:50 PM
Awesome Score man !

Just put the waterblock on my 9800pro. But its too late and im too tired to test it tonight - but I guess it will do 510Core without any VGpu mod. :D

Tomorrow i'll post some results ! Hope i can reach the 20k line..

Greetz !

bias_hjorth
06-07-2003, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by Tom Holck
:D
Here som improvement in 2001;

NH
I don't think Mark II is better than "Old" with R404. Most is better "finish" and cosmetic. The coolinghead of the first Mark I is the best, I think. But We will see.

On the GRU I use a standard "new" Prommeteia, its no need to do R404 here. But the Prommy is a little better than The Vapochill, I used before. The Vapochill was mutch more easy to mount and fit.

The Bench in the new version 3.3.0 in 2003 is 3-4% lover than the old water-"cheat" version. Its mutch harder to doo 7876 new, than 8100 in the old. Lets see what Oppainter and Macci can do.
Besides the lover value it's more easy to "freese" in the water now;) :rolleyes: :D


for vild score tom! Jeg har smidt en mail til dig ..
Men tillykke :banana: :D :toast:

(all above in Danish)

OmegaManOfFire
06-07-2003, 04:42 PM
Cung howe heg ewoh ewho gnuc :D :smileysex

bias_hjorth
06-07-2003, 04:53 PM
rofl pretty close to danish...:banana:

Creative
06-07-2003, 07:25 PM
Nice scores Tom....u can do it to get 3rd spot...;)

I have a 9800pro arriving this weekend that is being sent from a mate overseas. It is pretested and runs at 477/395 with artifacts, but is 100% benchable.

Default cooling too, so im expecting about ~500 core after adding a MCw50 to it....fingers crossed :)

oh yer, its a Gigabyte one :)

[NH]Woxxman
06-08-2003, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by Tom Holck
:D
Here som improvement in 2001;

NH
I don't think Mark II is better than "Old" with R404. Most is better "finish" and cosmetic. The coolinghead of the first Mark I is the best, I think. But We will see.

On the GRU I use a standard "new" Prommeteia, its no need to do R404 here. But the Prommy is a little better than The Vapochill, I used before. The Vapochill was mutch more easy to mount and fit.

The Bench in the new version 3.3.0 in 2003 is 3-4% lover than the old water-"cheat" version. Its mutch harder to doo 7876 new, than 8100 in the old. Lets see what Oppainter and Macci can do.
Besides the lover value it's more easy to "freese" in the water now;) :rolleyes: :D

I had that same thought about the Mach II and Mach I w/R404 but off course I meant that you should use R404 in the Mach II as well. ;)
If both were using R404 surly the Mach II would perform slightly better? Or am I missing something here? :)

Your updated scores look really nice and as you said… it would be interesting to see what Macci and OPP can manage in 3.3.0!

gecko991
06-08-2003, 03:03 AM
My ATI 9800 so far can do 477/394. http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=879522----6898

OmegaManOfFire
06-08-2003, 10:31 AM
Getting my PC 9800 tomorrow :D

Cung Howe Howe Howe

Juggernout
06-08-2003, 11:21 AM
Can anybody help me ?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14076

Thx

gecko991
06-08-2003, 01:33 PM
Are you running a fresh install and using Rage 3D tweak?

Juggernout
06-08-2003, 02:13 PM
A fresh install of what ?

Fresh instal of 3.4 Catalyst and DX 9.0 and Reage 3D Tweak - yeah !

Any idea man ?

gecko991
06-08-2003, 03:17 PM
I mean did you do a fresh install of your op system when installing the card?

Juggernout
06-08-2003, 03:30 PM
No.

Just refreshed the drivers..

Should i set up my hole XP new ?

Greetz

gecko991
06-09-2003, 03:42 PM
I always reformat when adding major hardware though some may disagree to its actual advantage. I load a ghost image of the drive with the basic things already setup,takes 14 minutes total.

charlie
06-09-2003, 08:52 PM
My old Visiontek one went 518/380 at 1.9v w/ chilled tec.
Thanks to Fry's...I now have a NEW one and will proceed to try to improve. The old one had a pretty nice core, probably good for 550 with supercooling but the mem at 380...just unacceptable. Out of the box 390 is what i'm looking for...mod-able up to 400-410.
C

OmegaManOfFire
06-10-2003, 06:29 AM
I got my Powercolor yestarday and the thing is absolute sucks on stock cooling.

I can't hit 395 before the snow pops out of the wood work in 2k3 nature bench. And that is with the shim removed and AS3 on the core. All == to suck.

The memory on the other hand did 371 with almost no artifacts @ CAS1.

I gots it memory perfectly stable @ 364.50 w/CAS1 timing. Still a far cry of what I thought the memory came clocked at.

I overclocked the card, through the bios, to 391/365, max stable settings I found for stock cooling.

Also maxed the core out @ 432 w\ a Sunon 120 mm fan over the card & that was with mass artifacts. :(

Hopefully my new Giant II cooler will do some justice for the card once it gets here.

I hope one day I can whip up enough courage to voltmod the thing.

KennethChong
06-10-2003, 06:40 AM
Im at 430/365 right now, I want to be able to push that mem up a little more, but if i go up even 5mhz i get horrible artifacts.

OmegaManOfFire
06-10-2003, 06:45 AM
I don't see how people are getting 470 on stock cooling. Doesn't make sense to me.

retrospooty
06-10-2003, 06:50 AM
My ATI Radeon 9800 Pro runs @ 455/394

I can get the core higher, but the memory is the bottleneck, it starts to get artifacts at 396 or higher.

The core is watercooled, and I installed heatsinks on the ram.

OmegaManOfFire
06-10-2003, 07:01 AM
I am going to get a watercooling kit sometime this season, mabey next month or so.

Colin
06-10-2003, 08:27 AM
Geez, my ATi Radeon 9800 Pro stock only does 450/380. :( Perhaps it's time to do a bad flash and claim it on warranty... ;)

OmegaManOfFire
06-10-2003, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by Colin
Geez, my ATi Radeon 9800 Pro stock only does 450/380. :( Perhaps it's time to do a bad flash and claim it on warranty... ;)

Wanna trade?

charlie
06-10-2003, 11:37 AM
Omega,
Start a thread about your Geil golden dragon!
C

OmegaManOfFire
06-10-2003, 11:46 AM
Good ram, got no pics though :( Best timings I ever had.

OmegaManOfFire
06-10-2003, 11:47 AM
3-2-2-2.0 @ 200MHz FSB.

gecko991
06-10-2003, 03:51 PM
For 32 bucks you can buy a Chromed version Zalman which allowed me to hit 477/394 so far. Water cooling will get you over the five but you may need a V mod too. http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=879522---6898---:smileysex :smileysex

NoFuture
06-10-2003, 06:06 PM
I got that kind of timings with my OCZ PC3500EL@200 on my A7N8X but the thing was at 2.6v. Its now at 2.8 because I Vmodded...
I d'really want to get one of these 9800 pro but buying is the priority right now. Otherwise, I may find some $$$ and get a 9700 np, dunno

Guess, Ill have to keep My mutant GF3ti200 128 for another 6 months...:stick:

Major
06-10-2003, 06:14 PM
OmegaManOfFire that memory will go to 250-260mhz ! hehe

You need a CW board to really put it to a test !

OmegaManOfFire
06-11-2003, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Major Slaughter
OmegaManOfFire that memory will go to 250-260mhz ! hehe

You need a CW board to really put it to a test !

Well, I just blew all me moolah on the 9800 pro and some Extra cooling accessories such as a ram sinks, cpu cooler, and gpu cooler.

I will get a CW board and a P4 2.4C when ever I can get another job. the place I was working before just fired me because I got accused of taking some stuff from the store, which I didn't.

Now I am out of a job and it is pretty hard to find one @ 15. :P

I tried the memory on my 8RDA+ & it posted all the way up to 5-2-2-2.0 @ 240 fsb. But, soon as I get in to windows and try to run the Mem bandwidth bench in SiSandra it craps out to the blue screen of death. I tried more leant timings and it does the same @ 7-3-3-2.5, so it is obviously the mobo that was bottlenecking me.

My Biostar board has me capped @ 200fsb which sucks as well.

What money I do have left is going to my next mini computer case & NF2 ultra mini board. When I get my NF2 ultra board I am hoping for atleast 225fsb & the memory to run @ 5-2-2-2.0.

DKOr
06-11-2003, 01:50 PM
Hey guys Im new! ..neh00t
I just got my Sapphire Radeon9800Pro 256MB in the mail along with the SwifTech MCW50-T which is basically an 80w peltier built into a vga waterblock. Im waiting for hardwaregods.net or anyone for this matter, to release a MACHII so i can get my system running. I'll post again when i got the specs. Also..! Im selling a VapoChillPE for 400$'s on ebay ****** and check out my other auctions including two 0319 1700+ JIUHBS :D Gatta save up for that $1200 ripp off of a cooling system

No auction links are allowed...read the rules please :TheDude

Juggernout
06-11-2003, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by DK0r
Hey guys Im new! ..neh00t
I just got my Sapphire Radeon9800Pro 256MB in the mail along with the SwifTech MCW50-T which is basically an 80w peltier built into a vga waterblock. Im waiting for hardwaregods.net or anyone for this matter, to release a MACHII so i can get my system running. I'll post again when i got the specs. Also..! Im selling a VapoChillPE for 400$'s on ebay no-reserve ( http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3418585371 ) and check out my other auctions including two 0319 1700+ JIUHBS :D Gatta save up for that $1200 ripp off of a cooling system

:rolleyes:

AMD AthlonXP 1700+ JIUHB 0250 *NO RESERVE*

This Chip at your auction is totally ripped off and dead ! Look at the edges ! 40$ is far too much. Gues the other CPU's u sell are dead too ?!

Don't like people who sell broken Hardware. :mad:

Greetz

gecko991
06-11-2003, 03:17 PM
Yet another snake oil salesman.

OmegaManOfFire
06-11-2003, 05:06 PM
It looks like some one took a cheese degrader to it.

x2sandman
06-11-2003, 05:15 PM
or tried to mount a vapo :)

saaya
06-11-2003, 05:20 PM
Geez, my ATi Radeon 9800 Pro stock only does 450/380 ONLY?????:confused:

OmegaManOfFire
06-11-2003, 07:17 PM
I don't kno why any one would complain about that when I can't even do 398/366 without getting artifacts out of the box.

Firelord-OCHW
06-12-2003, 10:40 AM
Has anyone tried a Gigabyte (£275 all in) or Crucial 9800 Pro (£289 all in)??

bias_hjorth
06-12-2003, 11:28 AM
I have Gigabyte... §§§§ty standard fan.. Makes a lot of noise...
Havent tried oc yet..

Firelord-OCHW
06-12-2003, 11:31 AM
What speed is the ram do you know?? Are you going to change the fan??

bias_hjorth
06-12-2003, 11:52 AM
yup just jimmy rigded at 60mm fan on the standard heatsink.. works fine...

btw. is at normal 680mhz... cant remember the ns..

Firelord-OCHW
06-12-2003, 11:56 AM
Has it got the Samsung or Hynix memory??

bias_hjorth
06-12-2003, 12:11 PM
samsung...

OmegaManOfFire
06-12-2003, 05:18 PM
What is the best ocing proggy? I just installed my Giant II hsf and the damn thing is snowing all over the place @ 390. WTF?

Creative
06-12-2003, 05:20 PM
The gigabyte uses the exact same ram as the 9700 pro....the 2.8ns samsung chips :)

I have mine currently at 450/360 and still testing. I know it can do 477/395 from the guy who pretested it for me so still a little to go in her yet :)

Firelord-OCHW
06-12-2003, 08:27 PM
Thats a cool oc :)

Which RAM is best on the these cards??

Tom Holck
06-12-2003, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by bias_hjorth
yup just jimmy rigded at 60mm fan on the standard heatsink.. works fine...

btw. is at normal 680mhz... cant remember the ns..


Its Samsung standard 2.86 ns:rolleyes:

bias_hjorth
06-13-2003, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by Tom Holck
Its Samsung standard 2.86 ns:rolleyes:


ok skod.. men mon ikke man kan hive lidt ud af dem alligevel mde lidt volt mod osv :-D

[NH]Woxxman
06-13-2003, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by bias_hjorth
ok skod.. men mon ikke man kan hive lidt ud af dem alligevel mde lidt volt mod osv :-D

Jodå det borde hjälpa en del. ;)

OmegaManOfFire
06-13-2003, 03:26 PM
Ut O, Spaghetti O's.

Firelord-OCHW
06-14-2003, 07:35 AM
If I have the Radeon in a shuttle case would a Gigabyte VIVO do fine??

bias_hjorth
06-14-2003, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by Firelord-OCHW
If I have the Radeon in a shuttle case would a Gigabyte VIVO do fine??

yup.. actually i think that a zalman hp-80a would do the trick also.. if you just have a fan blowing towards it..

Firelord-OCHW
06-14-2003, 08:21 AM
That be cool then I think thats what i'll get :) thanks guys and there are some uber overclocking Radeons on here :D

:toast:

OmegaManOfFire
06-15-2003, 11:24 AM
I wish I had an uber ocer. I am going to RMA the thing and hope for a better overclocker cause this card is just sucks.

Tom Holck
06-16-2003, 01:47 AM
Originally posted by bias_hjorth
ok skod.. men mon ikke man kan hive lidt ud af dem alligevel mde lidt volt mod osv :-D

With volt-mod and 3.55-3.87 volt you get about 400 out of the 2.86 ns. maximun heatsink and phan-cooling max 405. over that its artifact.....

;)

charlie
06-17-2003, 08:10 PM
well, my new r9800 appears to be a keeper...maybe ;)
the new one I'm testing in a plain-vanilla 845PE rig just to see some gpu clocks, I'm at 470/380 out of the box in a 26C room.
Hoping for 540/410 with all 4 mods...and a chilled pelt.
C

Major
06-17-2003, 09:29 PM
Hoping for 540/410 with all 4 mods...and a chilled pelt.

omg 540/410 !

This MCW50T can't keep up with my R9800pro, I have a feeling I could clock alot higher with a vapochiller on it ! hehe right now I've got it at 510/396 with no artifacts and tearing. It will clock to 528 before locking up but with alot of missing pixels.

Charlie I've done all of the mods to this board but the memory just doesn't want to more than 396 regardless of the voltages :( I hope yours turns out to be a winner for you !

charlie
06-17-2003, 09:50 PM
Major,
I'm feeling pretty good about this one...the card will artifact like crazy but finish 3dmk runs up to like 480/386 that's pretty good for dead stock...my old one did about 470/375 in the same sitch.
And after vgpu and super chilled mcw50-t it ended up at 515-520/378-380 ish. That's with an unoptimized mcw50-t...I'm waiting for a boatload of parts this and next week including 172w pelt, etc. I'm gonna have a few q's for you after I start working with these new parts...the p4c800 is completely new to me... and I haven't yet oc'd a D1...
C
P.S. Too bad so many people jumped on that Vapo PE, eh? ;)