Intel's 45 nm Quad core comes in Q4

[G3XC]

Roadmap: Harpertown for servers


Harpertown Quad Core a server CPU that is suppose to replace some of the Quad core Xeon 5300 series CPUs, comes in Q4 2007. Intel is pushing hard to have these small transistor CPU's out this year.


The desktop parts are still scheduled for Q1 2008 but at least one server part will go out. Harpertown will be the top of the Performance roadmap and will share its place with Xeon 5160, 5150, 5140 and 5130 at Volume Dual processor market. It will even drop to value market and co-exist in late Q4 with 5120 and 5110 CPUs.


Yorkfield Quad core are still scheduled for Q1 2008. The only details we know about Harpertown and all Intel wants you to know about this CPU, is that it supports four cores and four threads and that is 45 nanometre based.

Source (http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=140&Itemid=1)

[Jamesrt2004]

Hopefully nothing will go wrong and all will go well to see these out before x-mas :)

[nCrusader]

5.2-5.3GHz quad in 3D? Gonna take som serious Barcelona power to compete with that.

[Vapor]

Where are you getting 5+GHz from?

[syne_24]

So does this mean 45nm mobile wont hit until Q2-Q3 08? I didnt think Intel would have problem pushing it by xmas with 45nm for desktop. But then again I guess that's probably why they have the huge price cut in the upcoming quarter, to hold over until their next line up comes out.

[yaddam205]

Was Yorkfield the Quad with Hyper-Thread or was that Peryn?

[frankR]

Are these just Core 2 shrinks?

[nCrusader]

Where are you getting 5+GHz from?
Considering that current 65nanos does 5.0GHz in 3D, I assume 45nanos could do even better.

yaddam205;2072995']Was Yorkfield the Quad with Hyper-Thread or was that Peryn?
Afaik, the talk about HT on Penryn was 100% BS, TheInq admited it was a false rumour.

[frankR]

If these are going to be on high-k dielectric, which I think they have to be because that's the key to Intel's 45 nm process, these things should really clock.

[yaddam205]

Considering that current 65nanos does 5.0GHz in 3D, I assume 45nanos could do even better.


Afaik, the talk about HT on Penryn was 100% BS, TheInq admited it was a false rumour.

Ahh yes and my respect for TheInq dwindles each day

[kiwi]

There is unofficial info that Yorkfield will be 3.7ghz at stock (XE probably) with 12MB L2 cache. Same socket but not compatible with the current one

[[XC] gomeler]

Holy cache batman, 12MB of cache would be nuts. Can't wait to get to the point where I can just run Windows in my cache.

[rozzyroz]

i've been hearing from several people on here, that we may see these in q3.

http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20060928A2007.html

3.7ghz is pretty high. i also heard that the transistors will be 20% faster under the new process.

Greater than 20 percent improvement in transistor-switching speed or a greater than 5 times reduction in source-drain leakage power

http://www.intel.com/technology/silicon/45nm_technology.htm

also penryn is supposed to have more transistors, aside from the added l2 cache. this is prolly for the extra sse4 extensions, but maybe there is more to it.

If we assume that 288M transistors (6T SRAM) will be used by the 6MB cache, that leaves 122M transistors for L1 cache and the rest of the core. Applying the same calculation to Conroe gives us 99M transistors left over, meaning that there are roughly 23% more core-logic, control and L1 transistors being used in Penryn than in Conroe.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2915&p=3

[californian7856]

yeah yorksfield is still Q1 2008

well... ill pick up a Q6600 for 266 bux, then wait and see whos faster

man i have some expectations for these 45nm chips... wonder how well they overclock, kinda like how pentiumd D 800 vs pentium D 900. 800 stops around 3.5GHz, but even 920 can do 4GHz, and 930, 940 can do 4.5GHz with bigger cache ! ... all on air

that was just a lot of fun

for K10, i hope they overclock well... given that K8 x3800 can do 3GHz, i do hope that k10 can be oc to some where in the 3.5GHz zone tehn we will have some comparison .. if they do, then ill prolly get k10, it all depends on how well k10 oc

intel cpus can generally be oc at much higher percentage than amds

so which ever is faster yorksfield at 4+Ghz or K10 @ 3+GHz. thats what im getting

[fhpchris]

Yorkfield will be the cedar mill of Core 2 Duo :)

[XS Janus]

I believe that it could be a good move to update the motherboard when we see the new p35 ones. that way you can run your c2d now, update to 266$ kentsfield in Q3 and when york comes in Q1 you upgrade if it's worth it. (let's say for the same price+ less heat, better OC and faster 10-20% at stock clocks? vs kents clocks priced the same)
Pace yourself sort to speak.
DDR3 upgrade can put a stir in the whole picture, but I expect to see DDR fight before any decisions have to be made. If DDR3 will justify itself in real world situations (not sintetic tests) then just get a p35 DDR3 MBO.

[xB0n3s]

I can't wait to see what Penryn can do...

[nn_step]

sounds like AMD will have plenty of time to play with their upcoming crown

[FghtinIrshNvrDi]

I've been reading about AMD's clock speeds on the new chips, but I wonder what kind of scalability they have. C2D has certainly shown that it can scale consistantly.

Ryan

[StyM]

http://www.bilderhosting.info/pics/image24642.jpg

[clayton]

Looks nice.

[perkam]

E2140 @ 8x333 FTW :)

Perkam

[adamsleath]

surely yorky will give better oc than kfield. :woot: Nehalem is also expected in 08....assuming no delays.

[NinjaWreck]

E2140 @ 8x333 FTW :)

Perkam

1Mb L2 FTL :(

[FLMJIGGY]

It's pretty much like a 3800 x2 with the C2D touch. This is much better because of the price it will be.

[fhpchris]

E2140 @ 8x333 FTW :)

Perkam

Why over E6320/E6420?

[Fuji]

BTW, Yorksfield is two dies bolted together. That might explain the really high clock speeds (we should also thank the 45nm process for that). But it enables Intel to offer better speed bins by putting two dies that clock similarly together.

The 4 GHz clock speed would be nice. Looks like Barrent can un-apologize to the world about his failed promise pretty soon.

[mursaat]

gomeler;2073162']Holy cache batman, 12MB of cache would be nuts. Can't wait to get to the point where I can just run Windows in my cache.That will surely heaten things a lot?

With K10 coming, I'm more interested in Santa Rosa / whatever is the name of the mobile chips. Imagine a Quad notebook with reasonable battery time... That will surely replace my Merom :slobber:

Also, for those that talk about 5ghz, remember that 90% of the people here runs their Conroes around 4ghz. I'm not defending AMD, as I plan to get a lowpriced E6600 in April, but trying to compare 5ghz Intel vs 4ghz AMD is really ambitious, in both sides. And yes, I know this is XS. If you're talking about performance crown, 5ghz Intel is (and probably will be unless K10 overclock really good), but for a "normal" user with good Air / Water maybe K10 will be a better option. XS Rumours FTW! :D:D

[perkam]

Why over E6320/E6420?E2140 = <$80 :)

Perkam

[Shintai]

That will surely heaten things a lot?


Cache dont use much power. I think Intel said their 16MB cache on a Xeon MP used 0.75W per MB. And that cache is running somewhat similar speed as this would.

[zerotol]

will it be wise to wait for 45 nm quads or go with the 65 nm quads after the price drop , because those 45 nm will be expensive at launch...:confused:

The ever lasting pc question : Upgrade now or wait for the next-gen product:cool:

[XS Janus]

will it be wise to wait for 45 nm quads or go with the 65 nm quads after the price drop , because those 45 nm will be expensive at launch...:confused:

The ever lasting pc question : Upgrade now or wait for the next-gen product:cool:

I'm thinking of getting an new P35 board while P5B-D is still worth something as this would provide me with the possibility of running C2d now (ddr3 decision pending test results), and buying 65nm quad in Q3 - and after that upping to Yorkfield if it proves to be all that.
By the looks of this if York and Agena will have similar performance it is cheaper to go Intel, but if you have AMD now it is cheaper to go AMD.:cool:

Remember Intel is planing a whole new socket for Nehalem which is also due in late '08 and that means Yorkfield will be pretty short lived (for enthusiasts ofC)
-Price wise I'm hopping Intel will bring several flavours of yorkfield and phase out Kentsfield soon and start the pricing around 266$+