View Full Version : NEW Personal temperature record by piotres : -93.1*C ;-) and show on single-stage
piotres
03-13-2007, 04:43 PM
Hi
That's SS for one nice guy from France ...first He had planned to buy Mach2/Vapo LS, later plan to order 1/3 HP SS from one builder in France and ...finally 3/4 HP (9000 BTU) SS with CPEV from me :) .
That's first time I've mounted CPEV near evaporator (CPEV outlet is connected by 10 cm, 5 mm OD pipe with evap). In that way CPEV works much better, reaction for tunning is much faster and pulldown time too :) .
No case, only metal baseplate, my customer said that He'll make case from plexi by himself :toast: .
Freezepack controller (by GSMaster) and suction pressure gauge, are extras which customer really wanted :D .
Unit beat mine "old" record with single (-88.1*C) - it has made -93.1*C :D.
Specs :
Compressor: Sanyo C-1RV137H11AA
evap: steeper by piotres
XV: CPEV Fach "PZ" mounted near evaporator head
condenser: 2 row, alu-cu, cooled by 4*120 mm NBM 12V fans
Refrigerant : R507/R410a blend
Baseplate : 49 x 35 cm zincked plate baseplate
others: REFCO low side gauge, FreezePack controller (by GSMaster)
http://www.members.lycos.co.uk/piotres2/djbess/1.jpg
Suction line together with polish CPEV .
http://www.members.lycos.co.uk/piotres2/djbess/2.jpg
When freezeControler arrived ..
http://www.piotres.boo.pl/djbess/3.jpg
http://www.piotres.boo.pl/djbess/4.jpg
http://www.piotres.boo.pl/djbess/5.jpg
http://www.piotres.boo.pl/djbess/6.jpg
http://www.piotres.boo.pl/djbess/7.jpg
First run ...and fighting for the COLDEST temperatures on evap (completelly closed CPEV) . RESULT : -93.1*C :D (that's now not WR :( , becasue Symphy has beat me with -94.4*C but with single-stage 2.5 HP build by me :D ) .
http://www.piotres.boo.pl/djbess/8.jpg
On 223W dummyload.
http://www.piotres.boo.pl/djbess/9.jpg
On 202W dummyload.
http://www.piotres.boo.pl/djbess/10.jpg
On 115W dummyload. As you can see -54*C in freezer's limit :-/ . Eg. real -54 = -54 on LCD, but eg. -60 real = still -54 on LCD, -65 real = -54 LCD etc. :-( .
http://www.piotres.boo.pl/djbess/11.jpg
http://www.piotres.boo.pl/djbess/12.jpg
http://www.piotres.boo.pl/djbess/13.jpg
http://www.piotres.boo.pl/djbess/14.jpg
http://www.piotres.boo.pl/djbess/15.jpg
http://www.piotres.boo.pl/djbess/16.jpg
http://www.piotres.boo.pl/djbess/17.jpg
Some tests on Conroe E6700es ..4+ Ghz/1.6V = lower that -60*C on evap in full stress :slobber: .
http://www.piotres.boo.pl/djbess/18.jpg
and finally well packed ;-) .
Regards
Peter
OMG how cold!!! Only by a roatry though are we going too see these temps!
How does a cepv work then? Whats it's purpos
piotres
03-13-2007, 04:57 PM
OMG how cold!!! Only by a roatry though are we going too see these temps!
How does a cepv work then? Whats it's purpos
"In that way CPEV works much better, reaction for tunning is much faster and pulldown time too :) ." - as I've written in first post ;-).
and Guys please see that's WITHOUT any SLHX :D pure, simple single with CPEV :D
epion2985
03-13-2007, 05:10 PM
well with the cpev most of the liquid boils before the evap, but it doesn't look like its really effecting anything negatively. Though maybe it does and is just compensated by r410 and a huge compressor and condenser.
Wonder how a cpev set up like this would work out on an small nf9fx r404a single stage.
potkit
03-13-2007, 09:14 PM
holy :banana::banana::banana::banana:, you are the man :banana:
i see, no slhx rulz xD
so, how expensive is a cpev i want to try it in my next SS with a rotatory if possible
hatemi
03-13-2007, 09:27 PM
Way to go :)
{.bLanK} GoD
03-14-2007, 12:21 AM
Very nice piotres.
Please tell me that isn't silicon around the thread of the LP gauge...
piotres
03-14-2007, 12:23 AM
Very nice piotres.
Please tell me that isn't silicon around the thread of the LP gauge...
It's LeakLock -special compund made by Refco to seal threads in refrigeration units :) .
{.bLanK} GoD
03-14-2007, 12:31 AM
It's LeakLock -special compund made by Refco to seal threads in refrigeration units :) .
Just as well ;)
It just looked a lot like silicon.
And anyway, leak lock is over rated. If the flare doesn't seal properly, leak lock isn't gonna seal it.
Leak lock is more for thread locking purposes to stop the nut undoing itself over time with expansion and contraction.
expansionvalve
03-14-2007, 12:33 AM
On the upside, interesting build :)
On the downside, it would be interesting to see how accurate thermometer is, recent calibration cert would elimimnate the pinch of salt feeling I have.
piotres
03-14-2007, 01:49 AM
Just as well ;)
It just looked a lot like silicon.
And anyway, leak lock is over rated. If the flare doesn't seal properly, leak lock isn't gonna seal it.
Leak lock is more for thread locking purposes to stop the nut undoing itself over time with expansion and contraction.
I know that :) . I always use leaklock for threads, just a habit ;) .
@expansionvalve : In icy-water it shows 0.0- +0.2*C so I think it's OK :rolleyes: .
sacha35
03-14-2007, 02:16 AM
Very Very nice temps there mate for a S/S unit, does the CPEV effect the compressors life in any way
As it has a reduction in the amount of return cooled gas/liquid?
Any way well done again on a fantastic build.
Sacha
CPEVs are great! Piotres work is also great :D .
johann
03-14-2007, 07:35 AM
very nice unit.
I dont like the cpev on that position but if it works its ok. So its for benching only, you can never mount inside a closed case.
What is the REAL idle temp not the "Record temp" with CPEV closed?
Did you use 3Dmark and SuperPi to fully stress CPU? Why dont you use Orthos or something similar because 3Dmark and SuperPi will not stress the cpu 100%
BNDMOD
03-14-2007, 08:06 AM
Good job man!!! great temperatures
Unknown_road
03-14-2007, 01:39 PM
you still try to get lowest temp possible by closing a valve???
what's the fun in that?
Duniek
03-14-2007, 01:51 PM
if you build next rotary ss I want see temperatures on fluke 51 :fact:
;)
LukeXE
03-14-2007, 02:33 PM
you still try to get lowest temp possible by closing a valve???
what's the fun in that?
Next thread with "record" title.
piotres
03-14-2007, 03:34 PM
if you build next rotary ss I want see temperatures on fluke 51 :fact:
;)
OMG You think it's fake ? :rolleyes:
I tell You sth : I had got a Fluke 52 I thermo for a short time (already gone to new cascade owner) ...eg. on mine cascade it shows -103*C when same time that voltcraft K101 shows -104*C (You can see pictures in mine topic about cascade from signature).
OK, so I've done -92*C with Single-stage, now You fell better ? :)
you still try to get lowest temp possible by closing a valve???
what's the fun in that?
Sorry, but it's fun for me to reach temps near -100*C with refrigerant which has boiling point around -50*c in 0 bars . But I understand, not everybody must "like" that . :)
very nice unit.
I dont like the cpev on that position but if it works its ok. So its for benching only, you can never mount inside a closed case.
What is the REAL idle temp not the "Record temp" with CPEV closed?
Did you use 3Dmark and SuperPi to fully stress CPU? Why dont you use Orthos or something similar because 3Dmark and SuperPi will not stress the cpu 100%
I haven't tested idle, I only make a short test on CPU .
OK, I understand, so CPU was in stress, but not fully stressed :D .
Regards
Peter
wdrzal
03-14-2007, 04:24 PM
You could only set those temps without load,and using a oversized compressor running in a deep vacuum.
no load temps mean NOTHING.
by doing this when it comes time to cool @ working temps @ working load, the compressors you are using are much to large, they will run up the power bill . plus the noise from a larger compressor and all those fans.
So don't go bragging about something meaningless ,it will come back to bite you. refrigeration is not like a race car,the bigger the motor the better, It the opposite the smallest motor running efficiently is the way to go for daily use
Running a compressor in a vacuum if not designed for that purpose will substantially shorten its life . You want the gas to do the cooling @ reasonable pressures.
pazza316
03-14-2007, 04:26 PM
Nice unit!!
Great Temps for sure! and clean build!
Duniek
03-14-2007, 05:00 PM
-92*C isn't the same as -93*C heheh :p:
you bulit nice unit but if you have pressure below 0 bar on suction, compressor have a problem with oil return, you should use oil separator,
*in theory :rolleyes:
boshuter
03-14-2007, 06:27 PM
You could only set those temps without load,and using a oversized compressor running in a deep vacuum.
no load temps mean NOTHING.
by doing this when it comes time to cool @ working temps @ working load, the compressors you are using are much to large, they will run up the power bill . plus the noise from a larger compressor and all those fans.
So don't go bragging about something meaningless ,it will come back to bite you. refrigeration is not like a race car,the bigger the motor the better, It the opposite the smallest motor running efficiently is the way to go for daily use
Running a compressor in a vacuum if not designed for that purpose will substantially shorten its life . You want the gas to do the cooling @ reasonable pressures.
Walt... I highly respect your opinion on refrigeration...... BUT, that reply was completely out of line imo... that's like saying using ln2 to oc is completely meaningless, it's not efficient and not the way to go for daily use either.... but so what? It may not be the way you would do it, that doesn't make it meaningless, I just think if you aren't impressed by the way he did it, just ignore the thread, don't put him down for doing things his way. The hell with the power bill and the noise, it's extreme isn't it? Hope you don't take this wrong, just MHO :)
BTW; I'm impressed piotres :toast:
wdrzal
03-14-2007, 06:51 PM
Boshunter I wanted to impress on you guys what he's doing is meaning less and to be blunt, running in deep vacuums are very hard on compressors,oil breaks down,electrical winding insulation breaks down, all from being overheated,..............bet he set more records there also discharge temp,head temp. all can ruin a compressor if over heated
I also pm'd piotres detailed reasons why this should not be done immediatly after my first public post above.
runmc
03-14-2007, 07:31 PM
This is a race we're talking about ;) A drag race with nitro burning engines that have to be rebuilt after every race. You know I appreciate every bit of advice you have to offer. You have helped me to no end, and I'm getting ready to approach you about giving me private phase change lessons.;) Let's take all this in context. :toast:
Most guys here know as soon as he straps a load on that evaporator his temps will take a major nose dive and he'll have to start pumping in the refrigerants by the ounces. These numbers (low temps) are all for show - No Go!! :cool:
BTW - piotres - beautiful job. How do you like the controllers? I just got two in the mail that I will be listing very soon.
Hmm, so ya get -59c on 115w dummy load, but benching a X6800 at 1.6vcore at around 4ghz and you also get -60c load in in 3dmark. Say a lot about what you think is a hot processor. Why you benching such low low vcore?? Wheres the 1.7+vcore and some orthos action for an hour, I hate it when ppl post results like this, really feel bad for the customer when they put there quad core CPu in there and run real vcores. I bet that temp sky rocks after 2mins of orthos and a real vcore let alone a 4ghz overclock. Running that sort of vacuum, I hate to work out the compressor ratios, I think I can here the compressor grinding away from here.
Depending on your version of single stage and others, single stage to me means one compressor, so cyroteck -141c and blaster at -125c leave these temps for dead, we don’t see them going on about WR’s.
:rolleyes:
Depending on your version of single stage and others, single stage to me means one compressor, so cyroteck -141c and blaster at -125c leave these temps for dead, we don’t see them going on about WR’s.
:rolleyes:
Hm, so you don't think there is a difference between SS and autocascade?? :stick:
johann
03-15-2007, 01:26 AM
As I said before, a very nice unit but the way its presented as "Singlestage world record" and the completely misleading load testing numbers are BS
All its doing is misleading people, especially newbies that know nothing of phase cooling.
zabomb4163
03-15-2007, 02:10 AM
Hm, so you don't think there is a difference between SS and autocascade?? :stick:
Cryotek's autocascades use a similarly sized compressor while maintaining -140C at load and -170C idle. THAT is skill while at the same time not leaving the compressor in the a vacum.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=97265
I know that but you can't compare apples with oranges...
no load temps mean NOTHING.
Normal overclockers they don't, but that's no reason why not go for record of lowest SS temp, meaning that only important thing then is only the temp, so then the load temps are meaningless.
completely misleading load testing numbers are BS
how so? cause one test piotres refers 3dmark as fully load?
runmc
03-15-2007, 03:22 AM
The low temperature is appreciated. I believe the people here making negative statements have a long term result in mind. Like Walt and a couple other mentioned running in a deep vacuum is harmful to the unit and not good for a lasting unit.
Walt has worked for the general public for many years trying to give his customers a lasting product, he as well as kayle and Johann are thinking in long term. Thanks Walt for looking out for the consumers.
I think we should appreciate constructive comments on both sides and learn from each in a gentlemanly fashion. :toast:
Unknown_road
03-15-2007, 04:09 AM
The low temperature is appreciated.
not by me :D because it doesn't say anything, it's not like a suicide screen of your cpu. this is just closing a valve not tweaking it with lot of effort. Lot of people who know nothing about refrigeration will be impressed by such a temp but this is misguided. That, I think, is our point.
I don't really know piotres, I just hope he is honest to his customers to say this temp is useless else they will be very dissappointed.
I often said it before but I think, as a subforum, we should strive for more professionalisme and only post temps that matter because those temps are an achievement and something to be proud of.
the load temps are good but the only thing people really see is the -93*C .
But this begins to feel a bit like I'm bashing piotres, which is absolutly not my intention, so I'll shut up. Sorry piotres.
johann
03-15-2007, 04:51 AM
not by me :D because it doesn't say anything, it's not like a suicide screen of your cpu. this is just closing a valve not tweaking it with lot of effort. Lot of people who know nothing about refrigeration will be impressed by such a temp but this is misguided. That, I think, is our point.
I don't really know piotres, I just hope he is honest to his customers to say this temp is useless else they will be very dissappointed.
I often said it before but I think, as a subforum, we should strive for more professionalisme and only post temps that matter because those temps are an achievement and something to be proud of.
the load temps are good but the only thing people really see is the -93*C .
But this begins to feel a bit like I'm bashing piotres, which is absolutly not my intention, so I'll shut up. Sorry piotres.
I agree, Piotres makes lovely units :D I dont think he intends to mislead people with the temps, I just dont think its fair calling it a World record, because it is not one.
potkit
03-15-2007, 05:14 AM
not by me :D because it doesn't say anything, it's not like a suicide screen of your cpu. this is just closing a valve not tweaking it with lot of effort. Lot of people who know nothing about refrigeration will be impressed by such a temp but this is misguided. That, I think, is our point.
I don't really know piotres, I just hope he is honest to his customers to say this temp is useless else they will be very dissappointed.
I often said it before but I think, as a subforum, we should strive for more professionalisme and only post temps that matter because those temps are an achievement and something to be proud of.
the load temps are good but the only thing people really see is the -93*C .
But this begins to feel a bit like I'm bashing piotres, which is absolutly not my intention, so I'll shut up. Sorry piotres.
everyone knows that that temp is useless, but it's nice to see some low temp readings, it's like when people ask for frost pics, frost is useless but people like to see it
johann
03-15-2007, 05:20 AM
everyone knows that that temp is useless, but it's nice to see some low temp readings, it's like when people ask for frost pics, frost is useless but people like to see it
Yes but why do you call it a "world record" ?
Its no world record, anybody can do that
potkit
03-15-2007, 05:22 AM
Yes but why do you call it a "world record" ?
Its no world record, anybody can do that
i never called it a world record i just made a comment about slhx which me and piotres were talking about before, that's all
piotres
03-15-2007, 05:33 AM
Hmm, so ya get -59c on 115w dummy load, but benching a X6800 at 1.6vcore at around 4ghz and you also get -60c load in in 3dmark. Say a lot about what you think is a hot processor. Why you benching such low low vcore?? Wheres the 1.7+vcore and some orthos action for an hour, I hate it when ppl post results like this, really feel bad for the customer when they put there quad core CPu in there and run real vcores. I bet that temp sky rocks after 2mins of orthos and a real vcore let alone a 4ghz overclock. Running that sort of vacuum, I hate to work out the compressor ratios, I think I can here the compressor grinding away from here.
Depending on your version of single stage and others, single stage to me means one compressor, so cyroteck -141c and blaster at -125c leave these temps for dead, we don’t see them going on about WR’s. :stick: :stick: :nono: Single stage for me means single stange and mine "LOL-record" has been made in SS cathegory ...Cyroteck and Blaster have made autocascades and that're COMPLETELY another systems that SS, You know that :rolleyes:
:rolleyes:
Just say that You hate me and mine work, that will be shorter to say ;) .
Only 1.6Vcore becasue or problems with mobo :( :( .
BTW - piotres - beautiful job. How do you like the controllers? I just got two in the mail that I will be listing very soon.
Quite nice, but that -54*C limit SUXXX :( :( . I recomend all to use controllers with Kprobe to use in strong singles :) .
the load temps are good but the only thing people really see is the -93*C .
I think people aren't blind, are they ? :stick: :slap:
I've already wrote that in first pot (and show on pictures) but I make that again :
LOAD TESTING RESULTS on dummyloads :
223W = -44*C
202W = -50*C
115W = -59*C
Regards
Peter
Yes but why do you call it a "world record" ?
Actually reading this thread, you are only one here who claims it's world record.
You perhaps missed this line from piotres:
nd fighting for the COLDEST temperatures on evap (completelly closed CPEV) . RESULT : -93.1*C (that's now not WR , becasue Symphy has beat me with -94.4*C
johann
03-15-2007, 06:47 AM
t800 Am I the only one????
Are you Piotres's girlfriend or something?
Perhaps if you READ THE TITLE OF THE THREAD you will see Im not the one that claims world records.
LOL you are so funny, people like you make my day thanks!!! :D
Just say that You hate me and mine work, that will be shorter to say ;) .
Only 1.6Vcore becasue or problems with mobo :( :( .
LOAD TESTING RESULTS on dummyloads :
223W = -44*C
202W = -50*C
115W = -59*C
Regards
Peter
NOt hate, just returning negative stuff like ya did in my thread. NOt nice ppl saying bad stuff about ppls units and oc is it ;)
It is the coldest basic single :toast: but not the coldest single stage no load or load or loaded basic single stage, autocascades to me are single stages as well.
bla bla
Yep ok, that comment reached level of something that i'm not gonna go. :slap:
johann
03-15-2007, 08:19 AM
Good, I dont think anyone cares
piotres
03-15-2007, 04:23 PM
NOt hate, just returning negative stuff like ya did in my thread. NOt nice ppl saying bad stuff about ppls units and oc is it ;) OK, sorry, but I really had thought that what I've wrote about Your cascade ...but OK, I won't be writing anymore into Your topics :) Peace Kayl, You're great builder, we know that :toast:
It is the coldest basic single :toast: but not the coldest single stage no load or load or loaded basic single stage, autocascades to me are single stages as well.But for me a-cascade is auto-cascade, and single is single :) . I see the difference. :D
Auto cascades are not single stages :)
Tom
Exactly :)
t800 Am I the only one????
Are you Piotres's girlfriend or something?
Perhaps if you READ THE TITLE OF THE THREAD you will see Im not the one that claims world records. I think nobody understand that as a WR, except You :confused: :rolleyes: ...record IS NOT World-record, can You see the difference ?
to MODERATORS : please change title of this topic - add "personal" after record, ok ? Much thanks
LOL you are so funny, people like you make my day thanks!!! :D I think You have got really bad day Johann ... :( :(
PS I wish I hadn't posted that topic :( :mad: ..so much flames about mine poor -93 (-92*c) ...nonsense :( .
Regards
Peter
M.Beier
03-15-2007, 05:07 PM
Nice work IMO..
Peter, a unit such as this is made for benching only, right?
can you please PM me with an estimated price on a unit like this?? - And a -100 (colder) auto as well?
I know a guy thats lookin' for a new unit.. ;)
n00b 0f l337
03-15-2007, 05:21 PM
I don't think piotres does autocascades, and -100C or colder autocascades are similar generally to polycolds and can cost thousands.
Sneil
03-15-2007, 09:13 PM
Nice work IMO..
Peter, a unit such as this is made for benching only, right?
can you please PM me with an estimated price on a unit like this?? - And a -100 (colder) auto as well?
I know a guy thats lookin' for a new unit.. ;)
I think you've missed most pple's points here. The -93C means nothing in terms of benching at all. When you actually use this as a benching unit as you'll see n his dummy load results, you'll be in the -40s. Piotres makes good units but just so yo know the -93C in this type of unit is not at all what you should be after.
Nice temp tho piotres!:woot:
G H Z
03-15-2007, 11:12 PM
It's been awhile since I stopped by here but for the critics please re-read the thread title. "Personal" means it's a record for him only, maybe you need to take some english classes if thats not clear enough ;)
CPEV closed no load, hello. Whats not to understand.
I think it's a great unit and holds good loaded temperatures, not everyone runs a quad. Good work pioties.
LOL GHZ - surprise :eek: - I changed the thread title :poke: edited by runmc
Gray Mole
03-16-2007, 12:01 AM
I don't want to come off sounding like 'prozac boy' or anything :D but I think we need to calm down and take a step back.
While the statement is 100% correct that this can mislead those that don't really know how refrigeration works into thinking that it's a -93c unit, it's not really doing and serious 'harm' to the industry.
I know when we get the question, as builders, we end up having to explain it but personally I could talk all day about refrigeration and bore most people to tears so I guess I don't mind too much ;)
Like Ron said, stretching a gas to it's limits can be a lot of fun, I've done it here and there myself when I get a new gas, just to see where it stands, where it breaks, and the general behavior of it throughout it's range. AND the cool temps, which is part of what makes this variety of refrigeration so exciting.
Drag racing a phase unit can be cool too.
Running a customer's unit like this can be detrimental, and personally I'd only do it on a test bed that I'd be throwing away later, but it's not going to do that much longterm damage if it's done for a very short time.
Saying that 'anyone can do this' is both true and it's not. Challenging yourself to stretch a gas to it's limit, to build a system purely to see how far you can go with a gas that's totally not meant to do what it's doing, it really does show the spirit of the forum. We can all do it, but do we?
If you can't see the point of the exercise then I think you might be missing the point of the forum. Xtremesystems. Technology, hardware, and thinking that's right on the edge.
Sometimes I think it could be fun to have a contest like this. Just a 'coldest single stage temp' contest. No 'best budget' or whatever system, but just 'balls out' coldest you can make one go without autocascading. No load temps, it wouldn't be about that, just best temp.
That's what the original Autocascade competition was about wasn't it? Was that just a load of (cough) too?
Anyway, congratulations Peter :) this shows not only the skill and pride you take in the work, but that on the inside you love it. That's what has always kept me doing phase even when I get tired or the work mounts up, on the inside I'm an addict and I guess I always will be. Nice to see that you have the same problem Peter :woot:
Cheers
Gray
hatemi
03-16-2007, 06:27 AM
Exelent post there Grey :)
Sneil
03-16-2007, 05:08 PM
It's been awhile since I stopped by here but for the critics please re-read the thread title. "Personal" means it's a record for him only, maybe you need to take some english classes if thats not clear enough ;)
you came a little late into this thread, it was much ater after he first posted that he added the word "personal."
Thunder Boy
12-02-2007, 03:22 PM
Hello!!
Congrats Piotres for this monster:up:
I like it:D ;)
This single stage is awesame!!
Congrats again!!
I will send you later other PM Piotres...:) ;)
Thanks and Best Regards,
Thunder Boy
Duniek
12-04-2007, 12:50 PM
LOL
always I think
piotres hits -97*C
so I am "better" than him :rofl:
http://omniserver.no-ip.org/duniek/SS/SSrecord.JPG
teyber
12-04-2007, 04:28 PM
i have a feeling piotres is massively regretting naming this thread what he did :lolol:
n00b 0f l337
12-04-2007, 04:42 PM
Hey Piotres, Got a q from you after looking at first pics. Wheres the high side access?
n00b 0f l337
12-04-2007, 05:09 PM
So um, what was the high side pressure?
piotres
12-05-2007, 07:05 AM
So um, what was the high side pressure?
This pressure was ...proper :D .
IMO in systems using CPEV and so big and good wentilated condensor we don't need to care about hi-side, becasue for sure it won't be higher than 16-18 bara .
Peter
quintus
12-05-2007, 11:46 AM
This pressure was ...proper :D :rofl: u could temp read the in and out of the condenser;) ......
is this unit still working atm? how much have it been used? any ideea?
thx,
q
piotres
12-05-2007, 01:14 PM
:rofl: u could temp read the in and out of the condenser;) ......
is this unit still working atm? how much have it been used? any ideea?
thx,
q
Why you suggest it can be damaged by that I had not mounted hi-side port ? :rolleyes: I just don't need to check that if I know that for sure isn't over 18 bara ...I even heard that from compressor's sound :) .
Unit was working for benches in customer house, then he sold it for good price, and it was damaged a bit while shipping to new customer ...after that I don't know plot ;) .
Best Regards
Peter
quintus
12-05-2007, 02:40 PM
Why you suggest it can be damaged by that I had not mounted hi-side port ? :confused: i did not! i just found the word ''proper'' fun, no irony intended! i just started laughing when i read it!
sad that the unit is not anymore in use, or if it is some updates from the new owner will be super cool;) if he is on this forum
cool would have been if u could take a reading of the wattage consume of this or any other big sized unit of yours, just thinking would it be worth a supersize unit:) or dry ice, cause the temps i think are ''even'' ;) more or less
stay cool peter i have absolutly nothing against u(just the ususal 0.1% of hate agains beter phase builders than the noob that i am:D ) dobra?
czesc!
regards,
q