do phase units have to be cumbersome?

[shadow of chaos]

suppose no chance of cutting their size down and weight with it?
i always see them big, so im guessing you need it that big or cooling power goes down the drain?
either that or a smaller unit would cost a fortune..

just interested to know

cheers :-p

[Big SturL]

The compressor and condeser make them a certain size. Of course, you can have em smaller than Vapochill, but they will take up a little space.

[Gray Mole]

As said, a phase unit 'can' be lighter but you really do sacrifice the temps that way.

Besides that, a standard phase unit, not incl. the case, is around 10-15kg. You might make one closer to 8kg if you use a smaller lighter compressor but you're not knocking it down to nothing and your cooling tends to be a lot less powerful.

It depends what you're after, and there are some alternative compressors that work ok, but when it comes down to it a compressor is a heavy thing, and the more powerful is the more heavy, and there's nothing that's really going to change that.

Cheers

Gray

[Big SturL]

Cooling power and practicality (?) are somewhat proportinal to cooling capacity. You could always get an air- or watercooler.

[n00b 0f l337]

Who would want it less cumbersome ? :P

[Cupcake]

Who would want it less cumbersome ? :P

yeah, I cant sleep at night with out the hum of the room next to me with the 20HP compressors cooling my X2 :banana: ;)

[[XC] gomeler]

Nothing wrong with systems that take up an entire desk to cool a small box :p: But like the others have said as you try to drop weight by using a smaller compressor your capacity will drop. I guess the idea of heavy is a personal opinion, I don't LAN so my system sits in the same position for months so I don't care that the combined computer, bench station, and single stage weighs close to 45 kg. Always possible to build a ss in a large case and make it easier to tote around but that'll require some custom work.