View Full Version : Arctic Web vs. Swiftech MCW6500-T-775
I'm thinking about purchasing one of these two waterblocks for TEC units:
o Arctic Web ($149.99 + s&h)
o Swiftech MCW6500-T-775 ($159.95 + s&h)
However, I'm not set as to which one yet. I'm going to use one of those with the 437W TEC.
Pros for Arctic Web
- Designed explicitly for the 437W TEC
- Possibly better performance due to dual inlet / dual outlet configuration
Pros for MCW6500
- Appearance: I personally prefer the look of this waterblock to the Arctic web
- Swiftech is very well known, compared to Arctic Web, who has been coming in and out of business
- Slightly easier to upgrade (in terms of simply changing the retention bracket).
- Simplicity: has only 1 inlet and 1 outlet; I'm not sure how I'd run a dual inlet / dual outlet system; I'd prefer to stay away from Y-splitters, but I have no more space to include a third pump to run the Arctic Web on almost two separate loops
- Five year warranty from Swiftech; Arctic Web might not be around in another month ^__- (jk jk)
Alright I'd like to have your recommendations plz.
Thanks
I am using the Arctic Web now, and I like the dual setup. It allows for much better water coverage area than the single setup that Swiftech offers IMO. Dual allows for the whole surface area of the block to be covered, while the single setup only lets water go from inlet A to outlet A...But that's my opinion.
n00b 0f l337
03-07-2007, 03:19 PM
And you have the 62mm compatibilitiy. If you must go with swiftech, at least mod the top for 2 more barbs.
Dang both of you guys are espousing a dual-barbed system. If you use a dual-barbed system though, and use Y-splitters so that its really just one loop, is it worth it? Coz I don't have space to place another pump in the system to use a dual looped CPU system.
Well, I thin kthe 62mm TEC will fit, though there's no way to be 100% sure unless I see it to believe it... but it looks rather promising.
Right, it is one loop, but the surface area coverage is the advantage here, not flow :) Actually, the pressure drop might be a bit less with the decreased flow per barb :D
BTW L33T, I am going to be using your Solidworks tutorial soon :)
Right, it is one loop, but the surface area coverage is the advantage here, not flow :) Actually, the pressure drop might be a bit less with the decreased flow per barb :D
Hmmm I definitely see what you guys mean, but I'm still kinda hesitant. I wish I had figures to go on. Unfortunately, neither of these blocks will ever be mainstream within the Xtreme, so it will be quite difficult to compare unless one person tries both blocks... even then, there's still the issue of various setups.
BTW L33T, I am going to be using your Solidworks tutorial soon :)
Kwl awesome tell me how it goes, and what other things you guys wanna see in the future.
Okay so in general, you guys basically like the Artic Web because of its dual inlet/outlet system.
Hmmm I definitely see what you guys mean, but I'm still kinda hesitant. I wish I had figures to go on. Unfortunately, neither of these blocks will ever be mainstream within the Xtreme, so it will be quite difficult to compare unless one person tries both blocks... even then, there's still the issue of various setups.
Kwl awesome tell me how it goes, and what other things you guys wanna see in the future.
Okay so in general, you guys basically like the Artic Web because of its dual inlet/outlet system.
Correct, I do like it for that reason :)
I measures the edge to the edge and got 58mm square. Maybe the top is bigger. If you try to put a 62mm x 62mm tec it will fail and take out your beloved CPU with it. Sorry, I'll run with the tec it came with.
Alright from a different thread I read this. I'm asking him about it... I need to know if there's any possibility of placing a 437W TEC in there, even if it means using a hotplate.
Alright from a different thread I read this. I'm asking him about it... I need to know if there's any possibility of placing a 437W TEC in there, even if it means using a hotplate.
From Swiftech's specs page on the unit, it states that the TEC is 50mm by 50mm square. A 12mm increase on both sides is probably not doable, judging by the images that I see there.
If you want to move to a higher-power (437W) TEC, then the Arctic Web is for you.
You have the option to run the TEC that Swiftech includes up to 15V, which multiplied by the 24A Imax (Current max), you get 364.8W...Dunno what that translates to "actual" heat removal capability (Due to inefficiency), but you get the picture- You want the Arctic Web, along with a 437w TEC.
Hahaha you & NOL. Alright you guys win. The Arctic Web it is.
However, just because a certain water block uses a certain sized item doesn't mean a bigger item won't fit. For example, the MCW5002 is designed for 50 x 50 [mm] TEC units, but will fit a 62 x 62 [mm] TEC unit given a hotplate to adjust for the fillets from the baseplate of the water block. That was my initial idea. According to Swiftech, it might not be possible. According to Philly_Boy, it isn't a problem of fillets, but instead a problem of the block just being too small.
Looks like I'm going to have to just go with the Arctic Web.
So I have some questions about the Arctic Web.
I guess I'm kinda annoyed that there's no phone number that I can just call; I have to wait for an email. In comparison, Swiftech replied to a question that I asked about three hours ago about an hour or so ago, which isn't bad at all.
According to their website, you just write them an email... that I did; I hope they reply quickly tomorrow.
I'm a bit confused though. Please take a look at this page:
http://wintschlabs.com/ArcticWebPage.html
Ok there's the blue version on the left side and the black version on the right side. To be honest, that sky blue color isn't my favorite color, but I'd love to have the black version! However, in reviews (I guess I've only seen two reviews) I've only seen the blue version.
Also, what kinda temps are you getting from your system?
EDIT: Since I'm basically using the same CPU as you are... or will be using. I'm on an AW-9D MAX though.. the other things are a bit different too.
I have the black version- It works amazing. I don't know if Core 2's temp sensors read below 0 C, but that is the readout I am getting, running the TEC anywhere from 12V to 17V :) Wintsch Labs is a much smaller company than Swiftech, but Devin (Wintsch) is an awesome guy- He helps you through the whole thing. Trust me, you won't go wrong.
Hahaha you & NOL. Alright you guys win. The Arctic Web it is.
However, just because a certain water block uses a certain sized item doesn't mean a bigger item won't fit. For example, the MCW5002 is designed for 50 x 50 [mm] TEC units, but will fit a 62 x 62 [mm] TEC unit given a hotplate to adjust for the fillets from the baseplate of the water block. That was my initial idea. According to Swiftech, it might not be possible. According to Philly_Boy, it isn't a problem of fillets, but instead a problem of the block just being too small.
Looks like I'm going to have to just go with the Arctic Web.
So I have some questions about the Arctic Web.
I guess I'm kinda annoyed that there's no phone number that I can just call; I have to wait for an email. In comparison, Swiftech replied to a question that I asked about three hours ago about an hour or so ago, which isn't bad at all.
According to their website, you just write them an email... that I did; I hope they reply quickly tomorrow.
I'm a bit confused though. Please take a look at this page:
http://wintschlabs.com/ArcticWebPage.html
Ok there's the blue version on the left side and the black version on the right side. To be honest, that sky blue color isn't my favorite color, but I'd love to have the black version! However, in reviews (I guess I've only seen two reviews) I've only seen the blue version.
Also, what kinda temps are you getting from your system?
EDIT: Since I'm basically using the same CPU as you are... or will be using. I'm on an AW-9D MAX though.. the other things are a bit different too.
I have the black version- It works amazing. I don't know if Core 2's temp sensors read below 0 C, but that is the readout I am getting, running the TEC anywhere from 12V to 17V :) Wintsch Labs is a much smaller company than Swiftech, but Devin (Wintsch) is an awesome guy- He helps you through the whole thing. Trust me, you won't go wrong.
Hmmm so I guess you get to pick then? Well that's kwl. I suppose if you guys recommend the guy then I feel much better.
Anyway, about twenty minutes ago Devin sent an email saying that they were outta stock, but didn't give a time frame... I sent a reply asking how long will it be. I hope it won't be too long =\
jrstang473
03-10-2007, 04:15 PM
Devin emailed me today and it doesnt sound very promissing.Pasted from my email.
"Dear Jeremy,
We are currently out of stock and having some difficulty with our manufacturer. I will let you know, if you know if you wish, when more are available.
-Devin"
Devin emailed me today and it doesnt sound very promissing.Pasted from my email.
"Dear Jeremy,
We are currently out of stock and having some difficulty with our manufacturer. I will let you know, if you know if you wish, when more are available.
-Devin"
Yea, I pretty much got the same email =\
He didn't reply with an answer as to how long it will take -- not even an estimate.
jrstang473
03-10-2007, 04:39 PM
Yeah in in the same boat as you,i ordered a 320watt 50x50mm off ebay today and thinking of puttting it in the swiftech 6500.
Though I'm gonna wait a bit longer... I mean, I've still got the PSU to finish building.
Arctic Web with the dual inlet and out...surly thats ment for dual loops kinda thing. If it was me i'd have 2 PA120.3's, 4 shrouds, 12 fans, 2 pumps. It'd cool it loads then and could be pretty silent too
Though I'm gonna wait a bit longer... I mean, I've still got the PSU to finish building.
are you having yourself a custom psu made?
Arctic Web with the dual inlet and out...surly thats ment for dual loops kinda thing. If it was me i'd have 2 PA120.3's, 4 shrouds, 12 fans, 2 pumps. It'd cool it loads then and could be pretty silent too
Yea it is, but for I'm afraid there simply isn't any more room in the case to place a third pump. I'll have to suffice with just a single line with Y connectors.
are you having yourself a custom psu made?
Indeed, yes: http://dizastix.com/PSU13V40A.aspx