Abit Fatal1ty F-I90HD [Archive] - XtremeSystems Forums

FUGGER

03-05-2007, 12:38 PM

I did not know this existed until it arrived today straight from Taiwan.

Hate to post without images but I will do my best to get all the specifics in as I dont have anything online to copy/paste from.

ATI Radeon Xpress 1250
Intel LGA775 1066Mhz
Intel DDR2
Integrated Radeon X700 Graphics w/ HDMI, D-Sub
4x SATA 3GB/s, IDE, GbE LAN
7.1 HD Audio, S/P DIF out
MicroATX

Once again, this is a Fatal1ty motherboard, complete with red/black color scheme. The box is a finished product, what I have in my hands appears to be a full retail product sample.

It features only one PCIE 16x slot, and two smaller PCIE slots, one PCI slot.

The SATA lacation would be a problem for the larger video cards as well as double width.

Four phase solid japanese caps. Special PWM layout and 100% japanese caps in memory areas. (says on box)

Supports up to 16GB of DDR2

There is no fans on this motherboard.

I will update with pics, just wanted to share with you guys the new arrival as it just arrived.

nn_step

03-05-2007, 02:17 PM

now I am really excited to see pics :D

ownage

03-05-2007, 02:23 PM

http://tweakers.net/ext/i/1171716062.jpg

Board looks cool, has many futures, supports almost everything i think.
Has some nice features:
-avivo,
-H.264
-VC-1 hardware decoding
-hdcp-connector

I'm looking forward for pictures and OC results :D

MaxxxRacer

03-05-2007, 02:26 PM

looks like a real nice HTPC board. (not that many actually use HTPC)

Starscream

03-05-2007, 02:30 PM

some info i pulled of of a german forum (hardwareluxx)

CPU Supports Intel® Core™2 Duo, Core™2 Quad, Core™2 Extreme, Pentium® Dual-Core, Pentium® Extreme Edition, Pentium® D & Pentium®4 Processors with 1066/800MHz FSB PWM Designation provides high quality and efficient power

Chipset ATI Radeon™ Xpress 1250

Memory 4 X 240-pin DIMM sockets support max. memory capacity 16GB Supports Dual channel DDR2 800/667/533 Un-buffered Non-ECC memory

LAN Gigabit Ethernet controller supports 10/100/1000Mbit LAN connections

Audio 7.1 CH HD Audio CODEC Supports Auto Jack Sensing and optical S/PDIF Out

Expansion Slots 1 x PCI-E X16, 2 x PCI-E X1, 1 x PCI

Internal I/O 1 x Floppy Port supports up to 2.88 MB 1 x ATA 133/100/66/33 IDE connector 4 x SATA 3Gb/s connector 3 x USB header (supports 6 additional ports) 1 x FP-Audio

Back Panel I/O 1 x HDMI™ connector 1 x PS/2 Keyboard, 1 x PS/2 Mouse 1 x S/P DIF Out 7.1 CH Audio connector (Front, Line-in, MIC-in, Center/Subwoofer, Surround, Rear Surround) 4 x USB 2.0, 1 x RJ-45 LAN connector

Serial ATA 4 x SATA 3Gb/s with SATA RAID 0/1/0+1

RoHS 100% lead-free process and RoHS compliant

Accessories Driver CD x1 English Manual x1, Jumper Setting Label x 1 IDE cable x1, FDD cable x1, SATA cable x4 I/O bracket x1, HDMI to DVI Connector x1

Form Factor mATX form factor 244 x 244mm PCB Color: Red

abit Engineered 100% Japanese Capacitors Low ESR, high ripple, conductive polymer aluminum solid state capacitors in all high frequency areas Quick Power On & Reset buttons Silent Cooling

FSB: 133 - 500MHz

RAM: 533,667,800MHz

CPU: 1,3250 - 1,7000V

RAM: 1,75 - 2,5V

Chipsatz: 1,8 - 2,088V

RAM Timings:

CL 2 - 7
tRCD 0 - 15
tRP 0 - 15
tRAS 0 - 255
tRFC 0 - 255

mion

03-05-2007, 02:47 PM

hopely it won't be overpriced

Fr3ak

03-05-2007, 04:05 PM

Finally a Intel version of the 430/6100 AMD boards. Hopefully the price is right and it is an ok overclocker.

Will you be testing it before Cebit starts, Charles?

destro404

03-05-2007, 04:17 PM

Nobody going to mention this thread that has been here for the last 3 weeks?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134018

ted3

03-05-2007, 04:32 PM

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=131078&page=2

FLMJIGGY

03-05-2007, 04:34 PM

There are those and a few other places. Would like to see what u do Fugger.

Awaiting ur results.

FUGGER

03-05-2007, 04:42 PM

Thanks for the other link, I should have known sxs112 would have had a thread up early as he is good connections in Taiwan.

None the less, I have the board in hand and about to see how fast it goes.

As far as prices, I think this will be under or very close to $100 US.

Dillusion

03-05-2007, 04:50 PM

WOW cant wait for OC results, I'm expecting one of these from abit soon aswell.

FUGGER

03-05-2007, 04:57 PM

OCZ has provided ATI branded parts to be reviewed on the Xpress 1250 board :woot:

The ram is bright red and compliments the board, awesome looking combo.

jgigz

03-05-2007, 06:56 PM

I've been reading some of the posts and what not @ hardforum and it seems to cap out around 350-360, hopefully with more mature bios's the board will be able to do 400.

FLMJIGGY

03-05-2007, 07:06 PM

under 100 and Im in for Intel and a 4300 or 4400. Awaiting u Fugger.

Fr3ak

03-05-2007, 08:14 PM

Charles you are making me jealous ;)

WiCKeD

03-05-2007, 09:34 PM

If OCZ partnered up on the mem side and Abit sent this to FUGGER, I am taking that as a good sign for overclocking... Anxiously looking forward to the results!

Fr3ak

03-05-2007, 09:37 PM

If that board does something close to 400Mhz fsb I would be more than happy.
paired with a E4300 and some inexpensive ram and you have a very fast, low power cunsumpting HTPC or surf rig :)

pvhk

03-06-2007, 12:42 AM

upcoming test with an x6800...

erwinz

03-06-2007, 01:26 AM

waiting for some results.. :D

:woot: this will be good.. :D

Silver Bullet

03-06-2007, 08:21 AM

Results from [H]forum .. lots of guys with these boards over there.

Link: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1157067&page=16

Stage 4: vcore@1.4750v & vchipset@1.944 all the rest at default!
fsb@340:

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/6277/340wl4.jpg
Image Source: pvhk

james1979

03-06-2007, 10:12 AM

10,000mhz? not sure about that
http://www.sudhian.com/index.php?/forums/viewthread/96647/

pvhk

03-06-2007, 10:31 AM

it's easy to do this!
set fsb @500 and you have the estimated cpu frequency ( 20x 500=10000) but not the real one which is 3.2Ghz on the screen(default 2.66) ;)

intel pentium cpu!

koegs

03-06-2007, 11:42 AM

360Mhz at +0.1V on CPU and NB so far with an E6600. Have to improve my cooling before i will go further.

With the final bios from abit Windows finally accepts my 4x 1GB DDR2-667 CL5.

Revv23

03-06-2007, 11:58 AM

under $100 is sweet...

i want to get a nice HTPC board but i wish they made a DDR one so i could some of this old ram i have laying around.

Frank M

03-06-2007, 12:02 PM

under $100 is sweet...

i want to get a nice HTPC board but i wish they made a DDR one so i could some of this old ram i have laying around.
Your choices are limited, then.
Some 865 boards work with C2D; on the AMD side, there's S939.
However, you won't get this level of integrated graphics from either...

itznfb

03-06-2007, 12:02 PM

i wish it had at least 2 (but 3 would be ideal) PCI slots

Frank M

03-06-2007, 12:08 PM

i wish it had at least 2 (but 3 would be ideal) PCI slots
That would already be ATX - so many PCI slots with PCI-e alongside wouldn't
in the mATX standard size. But an ATX version would be nice, I agree.

mion

03-06-2007, 03:46 PM

Link to abit website.

http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=Fatal1ty+F-I90HD&fMTYPE=LGA775&pPRODINFO=Specifications&fSEARCHTEXT=Fatal1ty%20F-I90HD

FLMJIGGY

03-06-2007, 05:23 PM

FUGGER!!! Awaiting ur results:D

pengizzle

03-06-2007, 08:20 PM

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=29&threadid=2013135&enterthread=y

mion

03-06-2007, 08:31 PM

Is $110-120 good or bad? I guess it will depend on results.

james1979

03-07-2007, 03:07 AM

i got one today but the onboard graphics state that its a 1200 and not the 1250? its not even as good as my old 9700 pro, unplayable at 1024 x 768, slide show in san andreas even without AA. My CPU is a Pentium D @ 2 x 3.2ghz with 2gb OCZ 800mhz.

Whats wrong am i missing somthing?

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o225/jono_iii/1200.jpg

Warship

03-07-2007, 03:44 AM

james1979

03-07-2007, 04:04 AM

Would you consider Intel E6400 to be in the Intel E6000-series?
Yes but that does not expalin why its sooooooo slooooowwww.

gundamit

03-07-2007, 04:19 AM

So can you overclock the onboard x700 graphics much? Seriously though, you weren't planning on gaming without a real graphics card right?

Warship

03-07-2007, 04:37 AM

It's an integrated gfx-core, nowhere in the history of mankind has this been the ideal solution for advanced 3d-graphics.

james1979

03-07-2007, 04:56 AM

i just wanted it to be on par with a 6600gt, because ive only got a 15" screen and my 6600gt is AGP so its going on Ebay. I thought a x700 was only just short of a 6600gt in terms of perfomance! oh well ill just have to get the X2900 GTO when its out next month.

WiCKeD

03-07-2007, 05:33 AM

Onboard is helped greatly by a better processor, due to it’s suckage. Get a C2D. e4300 @ 9 x 360 = 3.24GHz and about double your current CPU performance.

james1979

03-07-2007, 06:06 AM

Onboard is helped greatly by a better processor, due to it’s suckage. Get a C2D. e4300 @ 9 x 360 = 3.24GHz and about double your current CPU performance.
im very poor and cant efford heating in my house so i use the Pentium D to keep my bedroom warm. if i got a core 2 it would be freezing!

WiCKeD

03-07-2007, 06:59 AM

LOL! I don’t know man, my e6400 keeps my room plenty toasty! That’s why you overclock. ;)

Warship

03-07-2007, 07:01 AM

im very poor and cant efford heating in my house so i use the Pentium D to keep my bedroom warm. if i got a core 2 it would be freezing!

So it is your firm belief that CPU household heating is a good bang for the buck?

james1979

03-07-2007, 07:32 AM

So it is your firm belief that CPU household heating is a good bang for the buck?

not fully worked out if its cheaper to heat the house with gas and get a core 2 duo, or pay the extra electric and heat it with a smithfield 805 overclocked. I shall post a graph soon, so we can all consider if the old netbust tech does have some plus points in the winter.
Maybe i should buy two cpus and 805 for winter and a e4400 for summer. i could run the use the 805 at 10ghz to heat all the radiators in my house in the winter. just need a big pump and a CPU water block. Do you think im onto something. Could this be the answer to global warming?

pvhk

03-07-2007, 10:13 AM

max fsb with my e4300:
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/6277/340wl4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

next step x6800...

pvhk

03-07-2007, 10:18 AM

We can see here that there are hidden option in the fatal1ty bios:
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6127/untitledru4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

cpu ratio:
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2128/71508615nw8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

PCI lock is hidden:
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/826/pcici1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

PCI-E also hidden:
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/826/pcici1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

pvhk

03-07-2007, 10:43 AM

Thxs to W!ldGunM@n :clap:
A modded bios is already available!
PCI-e frequency
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6956/img00015id1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
DDR:fsb option
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/4943/img00016if1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
NB 1.8 voltage:
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/1351/img00017du5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
C1E :
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/4298/img00018mu3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
courtesy from W!ldGunM@n
And there are a lot more...

ownage

03-07-2007, 12:22 PM

pvhk: can you tell me how you open Abit bios files with modbin?
I always get the same error, "not compressed award binary code!!".

pvhk

03-07-2007, 12:59 PM

you must use modbin6 v2.0

ownage

03-07-2007, 01:13 PM

you must use modbin6 v2.0

Ok, works. First i used modbin6 2.0beta, but didn't work.
Now i use modbin6 2.01.01, and this works.

james1979

03-07-2007, 05:37 PM

here is the 3dmark06 score for the onboard x700 GFX on my board. if anyone is intersted.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o225/jono_iii/3dmark06.jpg

james1979

03-07-2007, 05:44 PM

puts it about the same as a 9600xt

pengizzle

03-07-2007, 06:08 PM

thx m8, id like to see more benchies and oc results.

oshox

03-07-2007, 06:08 PM

When will this board be availabe for retail purchase? Abit's site is very vague.
Also, you all have seen the board in-person, do you think a Zalman 7700CU would mount on the CPU?

FLMJIGGY

03-07-2007, 08:17 PM

Very nice work guys

Haltech

03-07-2007, 09:23 PM

Anyone ordered one of these in the states yet?

SnipingWaste

03-07-2007, 09:29 PM

The GPU on this mobo is 4 pipelines, 4 pixel shader units and no vertex shader units. Its about the same as a 9600/x600.

Gambit_2K

03-07-2007, 10:26 PM

The GPU on this mobo is 4 pipelines, 4 pixel shader units and no vertex shader units. Its about the same as a 9600/x600.

I was just about to mention just that. Most people think it's a full on X700 integrated, but it's not.

james1979

03-08-2007, 03:16 AM

I was just about to mention just that. Most people think it's a full on X700 integrated, but it's not.
i aready did at the top of page 3

pengizzle

03-08-2007, 04:27 AM

yo james, if u goin to oc that onboard gpu let us know the 3dmarks pls ;)
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/468/1/

james1979

03-08-2007, 04:48 AM

yo james, if u goin to oc that onboard gpu let us know the 3dmarks pls ;)
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/468/1/
only had the board a few days and although overclocking the CPU is easy, im not confident about overclocking other components, Plus ive seen a nice x850xt on ebay.

pengizzle

03-08-2007, 05:11 AM

so who´s got the guts to make this 9600 a 9700? anyone? :slap:

doompc

03-08-2007, 06:04 AM

Since it has AVIVO and 4 pixel shaders it is more like a X1300, but without shadel model 3.0 support....

pvhk

03-08-2007, 07:55 AM

fsb@358!
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4873/358nu9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
At last over 350...

james1979

03-08-2007, 08:33 AM

Since it has AVIVO and 4 pixel shaders it is more like a X1300, but without shadel model 3.0 support....

yes but i was saying it performs like a 9600xt, the x1300 is about 30% faster acording to this thread. my score being 582 and the 9600xt 532 to 629 with slower cpu perfomance. the only x1300 on the table scores 997 with a very similar CPU perfomance to mine.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1006807&page=2&pp=20

WiCKeD

03-09-2007, 09:55 AM

Review still on the table? User reviews have turned up pretty mediocre results. Someone with the right CPU, mem and experience needs to give it a whack with some voltage.

pvhk

03-09-2007, 10:06 AM

Review still on the table? User reviews have turned up pretty mediocre results. Someone with the right CPU, mem and experience needs to give it a whack with some voltage.
Except the PCIE & PCI are locked! The big difference between my P5LD2VM DH (fsb@350 pcie@120)& my f-i90hd(fsb@350 pcie@100)!
And my test are not completed with the abit...

fsb@360 vNB1.8@2.0v
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5866/360di0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

WiCKeD

03-09-2007, 07:40 PM

450 would be interesting... Complete your tests! ;) I think your mem was holding you back, though.

pengizzle

03-10-2007, 02:52 PM

we´re talkin bout mATX here..:stick:

WiCKeD

03-10-2007, 04:55 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/sleepeeg3/obviousman.gif

dogsx2

03-10-2007, 05:51 PM

FUGGER where are some numbers after 5 days and 3 pages of not much. :(

Was the only news that you got the mb? LOL

pengizzle

03-11-2007, 05:12 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/sleepeeg3/obviousman.gif

so why u ask for 450mHz FSB then?

Poodle

03-11-2007, 05:45 AM

If you want to build a HTPC you should get one of the new AMD 690G boards with a superiour chipset and a super cheap X2 3600 which is also on the 65nm process and will consume less power than any C2D on the 775.

WiCKeD

03-11-2007, 08:13 AM

Great advice if I was building an HTPC. I have a small case, because I want something portable and not obscenely large. There are many others in the same boat...

pengizzle

03-11-2007, 08:22 AM

not really since u can use a e4300 which doesnt use that much more power&heat while being much superior in terms of speed.

Frodin

03-11-2007, 08:41 AM

so why u ask for 450mHz FSB then?

Are 450mhz fsb and mATX mutually exclusive?

pengizzle

03-11-2007, 09:11 AM

do u know of any in the past that would do 400 or even 450?

WiCKeD

03-11-2007, 05:35 PM

Are 450mhz fsb and mATX mutually exclusive?For now...

Meaker

03-11-2007, 06:14 PM

I am getting this board on Wednesday, I can see if putting a Noctua NC-U6 on the northbridge will help :)

james1979

03-12-2007, 05:50 AM

if buying this board think twice about using OCZ2p8002gk as i think it has corrupted my BIOS am waiting on an email from Abit with a solution. Can only boot up now with one stick of RAM.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o225/jono_iii/IMAG0051.jpg

pvhk

03-12-2007, 11:40 AM

you mean "corrupt bios display"...:)

james1979

03-12-2007, 12:53 PM

you mean "corrupt bios display"...:)

no i mean "corrupted". dont try and correct me in my mother tongue.

pvhk

03-12-2007, 01:26 PM

you didn't understand what i meaned!
i did not try to correct any fault, so keep it easy!
i only say that memory can't corrupt bios data but only corrupt bios display....

Silver Bullet

03-12-2007, 01:37 PM

OCZ2p8002gkm, that’s not the Rev2 kit is it? I heard that the rev 1 kits had some problems working on a couple boards, look like this board will get added to the list. You might try getting a Rev.2 kit as it has much better compatibly.

Hopefully I be ok (I bought a Rev. 2 kit for this board).

james1979

03-13-2007, 12:42 PM

sorry pvhk im just pissed off that my new board aint working.

anyhow, yes mine is the older rev 1. i contacted abit and they told me to up the voltage, so i did and now it wont reboot at all. looks like the bios has been corrupted now and im going to need my PLCC reprogrammed. Abit said to test with my new geil value mem when it arrives, and if that does'nt work then changing the PLCC BIOS is the only way without RMAing the whole board.

oohms

03-14-2007, 05:07 AM

rev 1 of that memory has caused a lot of people problems

Poodle

03-14-2007, 05:27 AM

not really since u can use a e4300 which doesnt use that much more power&heat while being much superior in terms of speed.

4300 is more expensive and consumes more power than a X2 65nm and the Amd 690G chipset is way better. Amd chips undervolt lower and scale better in terms of power consumption when on CnQ compared to an Intel on EIST. :fact: You don't need more than K8 dual core anyway for htpc use when on a good chipset even when running 1080P. Better to address noise, heat and cost.

AMD 690G is the HTCP chipset and the X2 3600+ is the budget chip atm. Here in Sweden you can get both a 890G board and a X2 3600+ for the price ONE of 4300!!!

FLMJIGGY

03-14-2007, 07:08 AM

690g?

When are these coming stateside?

dogsx2

03-14-2007, 11:26 AM

FUGGER, did something happen to the board that you cannot use it? Was it DOA? I keep checking and time keeps rolling along. :(

pengizzle

03-14-2007, 12:57 PM

4300 is more expensive and consumes more power than a X2 65nm and the Amd 690G chipset is way better. Amd chips undervolt lower and scale better in terms of power consumption when on CnQ compared to an Intel on EIST. :fact: You don't need more than K8 dual core anyway for htpc use when on a good chipset even when running 1080P. Better to address noise, heat and cost.

AMD 690G is the HTCP chipset and the X2 3600+ is the budget chip atm. Here in Sweden you can get both a 890G board and a X2 3600+ for the price ONE of 4300!!!

i know AMD is cheaper.
i know their chipsets use less power.
what iam not sure about -since i seen reviews sayin different things regarding this issue- is if a E4300 really needs more power than a AMD EE?

Meaker

03-15-2007, 04:41 AM

Well I have this board running at a nice 334mhz at the moment (CPU at 3ghz) I need to persuade the CPU to go a little further but board is handling it all very well :) very pleased so far. With the improved cooling I thwacked the northbridge up to maxed volts and it has not complained.

Heidfirst

03-16-2007, 11:30 AM

AMD 690G is the HTCP chipset
other than the memory controller what's the difference?
Afaik X1250/690G are remarkably similar ...

Meaker

03-16-2007, 12:01 PM

My F-I90HD just died, many over at hardforum are reporting the same problem! Beware, this may be the modified bios killing it.

pengizzle

03-16-2007, 03:40 PM

dogsx2

03-16-2007, 07:38 PM

its like 3 ppl, i counted ;)

3 out of how many?;)

james1979

03-17-2007, 08:06 AM

Tested New replacement plcc bios chip. board still dead.

Im soo frustraited and pissed off by the fact that ABIT can'nt be bothered to test the boards before they ship them. Im going to have lost about £40 ($80) in this. Delivery out £8 delivery back £8 + the exrta money spent on replacing my memory.

Im so pissed off. :nono: :mad: :mad:

pvhk

03-17-2007, 12:04 PM

WiCKeD

03-17-2007, 02:14 PM

which bios were u using? the one by wicked or by wildgunman? if u used the one from wicked posted by sleepeeg then so iam not surprised, since it wasnt even zipped with winrar or sumthin. i hope u know that downloadin an unzipped modified bios is risky since slight changes caused by downloading process can have a huge impact. u should use wildgunsmans bios instead. besides this downloading issue i dont see any connection between these cases of dead boards and a modded bios since all it does is unlocking hidden features.
gl anywayHey genius, if bits changed due to downloading, the .zip file would not open. Furthermore, Winflash would not recognize it as a valid bios. Know what you are talking about, before speaking. :slapass:

Meaker, no one has reported a dead board due to the bios. I am now using the bios on my board and it is working fine. pengizzle is right on one account and that's all the bios does is unlock hidden features. Nothing fundamentally changed. The only thing MODBIN does is flip a 1 to a 0 in the bios.

People's board are most likely dying due to people failing to electrically ground themselves or RAM incompatibilities. At the least, touch the back of the PSU before installing. It's going to happen with every board out there.

pengizzle

03-17-2007, 06:52 PM

so u are the noob offering unzipped bios for download, nice to know for those who may have killed their board with it.
and now that i think about it, wasnt it also u who dreamed about a 450mhz FSB on this mATX board? ur funny, i like u :)

Meaker

03-17-2007, 08:04 PM

Hey genius, if bits changed due to downloading, the .zip file would not open. Furthermore, Winflash would not recognize it as a valid bios. Know what you are talking about, before speaking. :slapass:

Meaker, no one has reported a dead board due to the bios. I am now using the bios on my board and it is working fine. pengizzle is right on one account and that's all the bios does is unlock hidden features. Nothing fundamentally changed. The only thing MODBIN does is flip a 1 to a 0 in the bios.

People's board are most likely dying due to people failing to electrically ground themselves or RAM incompatibilities. At the least, touch the back of the PSU before installing. It's going to happen with every board out there.

Mine died after rebooting :slap: and since all my componants are working in the old P5B-VM, its the board :stick:

Who knows, maybe there is a reason these options are disabled? I did not know at the time, but people with the stock bios have also had trouble but I thought I might point out the POSSIBLE risk. :rolleyes:

james1979

03-18-2007, 05:13 AM

mine also died without any pysical contact!!!! I was told by the ABIT technition to up the votage of the RAM to 2.1v to make it run stable and in dual channel mode. I rebooted and the POST screen (not the FATAL1TY LOGO) whent garbbled and then the board was dead.

intersting to see if others with dead boards have the DDR voltage above 2v.

james1979

03-18-2007, 05:52 AM

forgot to mention, i was using ABIT second offical BIOS version 1.1

BIOS: m612a11.zip downloaded from:

http://www2.abit.com.tw/page/uk/download/download_bios.php?pFUN_KEY=8000&pTITLE_IMG=/download/images/download.gif

although it was unstable before the bios update and i never tested the ram at over 2v before i flashed the BIOS.

OBR

03-18-2007, 06:06 AM

absolutely useless board ...

pvhk

03-18-2007, 06:25 AM

absolutely useless board ...
very contributive post!
another like this?

@james1979:
i bumped the vddr up to 2.2v to hit ddr800 with my corsair pc5400c4:
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4507/400db2.jpg
But turned back to 667 vddr@2.0v since....

i'm still with the first beta bios evaluation rom": m612a_10

FLMJIGGY

03-18-2007, 08:25 AM

I was excited with this board. It is new and I'm sure Abit will release more info (bios) on this. I'll just wait till it matures a bit more. Hopefully by the 2nd Half of the year, planned upgrade, there will be this and at least couple more boards floating around.

U've been big help PV!

pvhk

03-20-2007, 03:01 AM

Thxs FLMJIGGY!

what seems to kill the mb is apparently the weakness of the nb itself when overclocking using the onboard video!

james1979

03-20-2007, 03:56 PM

Thxs FLMJIGGY!

what seems to kill the mb is apparently the weakness of the nb itself when overclocking using the onboard video!

where did you hear this from? have you heard of any way to fix the problem of a dead board? or will i need to return it to ABIT.

FUGGER

03-20-2007, 04:04 PM

I wish I had good news about my board.

It died, waiting for replacement.

FLMJIGGY

03-20-2007, 04:58 PM

I wish I had good news about my board.

It died, waiting for replacement.

LOL

What's with all these dead boards?

FLMJIGGY

03-20-2007, 04:59 PM

Thxs FLMJIGGY!

what seems to kill the mb is apparently the weakness of the nb itself when overclocking using the onboard video!

Hmmm so using a vid card should solve this!!! no?

mion

03-20-2007, 05:54 PM

I wish I had good news about my board.

It died, waiting for replacement.

That are some deadly results

dogsx2

03-20-2007, 06:41 PM

I wish I had good news about my board.

It died, waiting for replacement.

Thanks for the honest answer. I thought that may be why you have not posted any results.

I am sure glad no one had any of these when I was hot to get one.:party:

pvhk

03-21-2007, 01:10 AM

Hmmm so using a vid card should solve this!!! no?
Yes!
Using the onboard video while overclocking is in my opinion rather "dangerous" ,the nb seems very weak in this condition!
Most reports of dead f-i90hd were in this situation...
I anticipated from the beginning by using an old nvidia tnt PCI because of this issue...

pvhk

03-21-2007, 11:57 AM

where did you hear this from? have you heard of any way to fix the problem of a dead board? or will i need to return it to ABIT.
sorry james1979!
did not see your post!
Most reports came from other forum (my french thread, on [H]...)
No fix unfortunately!

james1979

03-22-2007, 07:41 AM

thanks pvhk. ive sent mine back to abit.

anyone know if hardware version 1.1 is out yet?

james1979

03-29-2007, 04:46 AM

ok im on my second board now and i had problems with it from the start. The first OS i tried to install was win XP x64. during the installation the screen would go black for about 5 seconds on about 3 occasions but it did finish installing. then on the first boot after the windows scrolling time bar, just when you should get the welcome or log in screen the system would hang with a black screen.

i tried installing several times with XP64 with many different bios settings, but i got the same result. so then i tried XP 32 SP1 and it worked ok with only one crash so far while using super_PI and watching a movie at the same time. today though it failed Prime 95 overnight.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o225/jono_iii/primefail.jpg

now lots of programms fail, even firefox but its not failed yet while writing this.

ive tryed many different memory tests and the all come back fine. even the memtest you get with kubuntu worked fine 100% pass. althought Kubuntu and Ubuntu would not install.

im worried that my second board will fail too, im not using onboard GFX this time its x850xt and the RAM is geil not OCZ, but it looks like my second f-i90hd is on the way out.

james1979

03-29-2007, 05:06 AM

the 512mb version memory passes the chipset test(im using the 2x1gb version of the geil GX21GB6400DC)

http://ati.amd.com/products/radeonxpress1250dsk/memory.html

so i really dont think its the memory this time.

it has crashed once while tring to post this.

mmm maybe the board is just a Pile'o':banana::banana::banana::banana:e.

perkam

03-29-2007, 06:19 AM

Moved To Intel.

Perkam

james1979

03-29-2007, 11:34 AM

ok, now things are very strange. the board kept crashing after about 30 seconds in XP. Then it refused to load XP at all, and everytime it would run chkdsk reboot, then freeze just before XP finished loading.

so i tryed installing XP on a different HD and it would not complete, saying that files were missing off the XP cd.

So i tryed one stick of RAM and got the same results. Tried Memtest86 v1.65 and it gave me 100s of memory errors. So i put back both sticks of RAM and ran memtest86 again no errors at all.....wtf is going on....

i talk to you now because after the last memtest i tried to install XP one last time and it worked without asking for missing files and without crashing (so Far)

this board is like jaclye and hyde. Its not the HD, or the Mem,

one interesting thing is that Ubuntu reports "boot I/O error" and refuses to load.

anyone got any ideas what is causing these computer fits.

pvhk

03-29-2007, 12:08 PM

james1979

03-29-2007, 12:38 PM

Are you using IDE HD, because it is necessary to put the master HD at the end of the IDE cable. if not install will fail!
I experienced this the last time I uses IDE HD on this mb...
If you are using sata drive, i would suspect memory issue.

thanks for the reply

no there all sataii drives as native ide in BIOS. i dont think its a memory issue as the memory has passed the chipset tests. and 100% in memtest86 in linux boot menu. + the board ran fine with no problems for a few days on the exact the same setup. this is similar to what happened with my last board ok for a few days then would not work. And now its running OK with the same RAM as before. I think there is something wrong with all the boards and only certain hardware and software bring out the faults.

have you tried Prime95 ? if so how long for?

pvhk

03-29-2007, 01:36 PM

thanks for the reply

have you tried Prime95 ? if so how long for?
no, but no issue nore crash for the moment...

FLMJIGGY

04-04-2007, 11:09 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127023

Lestat

04-04-2007, 12:48 PM

i'd buy this board from newegg or some other place but i dont really need to go thru all the trouble when the board is just going to die.

wtf is wrong with abit ?
do they really expect to keep their heads above water ?

the Quad GT is the only board that ha proven itself to the OC community.
the 975 board is nothing special, infact ive seen plenty of low end baords do what it does.

boy they better get their collective heads out of their rear ends

FLMJIGGY

04-04-2007, 12:58 PM

Just when I thought they had gotten their act together with the Nview. Thought it was the "beginning" of something...

it could also be that ppl are pushing it too much. It's really meant as an HTPC and not an OCer.

irev210

04-04-2007, 03:00 PM

i am thinking about picking one up, probably will wait a few weeks and see if conditions improve.

This IS the only mATX board with any decent o/c options. For me, im more interested in power consumption and the HDMI port looks niice for my HTPC.

Lestat

04-04-2007, 04:44 PM

i find it hard to impossible to believe that people who are ocing are using the onboard video.
no one in their right mind would do that, htpc or not

The Nemesis

04-04-2007, 05:09 PM

i find it hard to impossible to believe that people who are ocing are using the onboard video.
no one in their right mind would do that, htpc or not

Hi I'm Mr. not n the right mind:D 367FSB 14.5hrs per day re encoding dvd's to MP4. On 24/7 now. Still going strong;)

Lestat

04-04-2007, 05:27 PM

Nem, it would be you huh lol

hows the x700 doing for you (the onboard) i had two 1 in the lappy and 1 as an old backup card if i needed one.
the desktop one is worhtless and it had 256meg ram.
the lappy one for some reason kicks but, so i could see if the onboard of the abit is similar and better than the lappy one then things could be good. but eh... its still onboard with slow shared memory.

and no one in their right mind is a general statement given that ocing with onboard video is not stable and typically lowers OC, historically that is.

Meaker

04-04-2007, 05:54 PM

Well I got my replacement board, it's not complaining at 334fsb, I am not going to be turning on the onboard video so lets see how it does.

FUGGER

04-17-2007, 09:08 PM

Coming up;

Xtreme Theatre PC

Zalman HD160HT Case with 7” TFT LCD
Zalman CNPS8000 Ultra Quiet CPU Cooler
Zalman ZM600-HP 600W PSU
Intel E6400 Dual Core CPU
Abit F-190HD Xpress 1250 Motherboard
Abit Airpace PCIE 80211b/g Wireless Adapter
2GB OCZ PC6400 Crossfire Edition
Dual Raptor 74GB in RAID 0
Lite-on Blu-Ray DVD-RW
Logitech harmony Remote