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awdrifter
02-18-2007, 02:58 PM
Does Raid0 increase performance noticeably in encoding apps? Especially if I use Sony Vegas and TMPGEnc. Will it make a difference? Or does Raid0 just help with game loading time? Thanks.
nn_step
02-18-2007, 03:01 PM
http://cracauer-forum.cons.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34&sid=280efed0365b61294765bf0fbfb7d426
if you want a noticeable increase in performance for Encoding, get a better CPU
awdrifter
02-18-2007, 05:17 PM
Just upgraded to a dual core 4600 a few months ago, and the quad cores are still so expensive, so I'm probably not going to upgrade for a while. I was just wondering. Anyways, thanks for the info.
awdrifter
05-29-2007, 11:01 PM
I just tried to install nvRaid based on the instructions on this site (http://www.aoaforums.com/frontpage/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=292). But after I installed both drivers and hit enter, windows does it thing and then my computer shuts down. This is at stock clock. Any ideas? Thanks.
Cracker
05-29-2007, 11:13 PM
I just started using 2 drives with RAID0 and frankly I can't tell a difference when encoding. As someone said previously, encoding performance is mostly dependent on your cpu.
awdrifter
05-30-2007, 12:23 AM
Yea, I know. But I need to reformat my harddrive anyways. So I might as well set up raid.
Soulburner
05-30-2007, 03:04 AM
Might as well isn't a good enough reason, IMO.
awdrifter
05-30-2007, 12:34 PM
Can I install Windows just on one of the hdd first then install nvRaid and then reformat and install Windows on the Raided hdd array? Thanks.
uOpt
05-30-2007, 01:35 PM
Unless you are using raw files as input or output or as temporary files anywhere in the chain, disk speed doesn't matter.

Even if you have raw files somewhere it is much more important to keep input and output on two different single disks than a two-disk raid-0 array that is both source and target.
awdrifter
06-02-2007, 06:29 PM
Ok, I tried installing Win2k Pro with the right nvRaid drivers and it installed successfully, but when I tried to boot it up I get this bsod. What could be the problem? I'm using two 160GB Seagate SATA HDDs. Thanks.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3677/1000345mo9.jpg
Speederlander
06-02-2007, 06:34 PM
I see more people b*tching about their RAID 0 problems than any other thing on these forums. And it's ironic because they don't even realize they get squat performance boost with RAID 0 in their typical apps.
dengyong
06-02-2007, 08:15 PM
Ok, I tried installing Win2k Pro with the right nvRaid drivers and it installed successfully, but when I tried to boot it up I get this bsod. What could be the problem? I'm using two 160GB Seagate SATA HDDs. Thanks.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3677/1000345mo9.jpg

what board are you using ?
TV Addict#2
06-02-2007, 08:25 PM
multi-task while trans coding is where raid0 helps with lag
Movieman
06-02-2007, 08:29 PM
Encode,no,write and read,yes.
And listen to uOpt, he's right..again..
Couple fast drives for the OS in raid0 and as fast as you can afford for storage.
encode on OS RAID with output file to the storage drive.
And nothing the matter with your cpu, not the fastest but plenty of stones for what your doing.
Andrew LB
06-02-2007, 10:32 PM
I see more people b*tching about their RAID 0 problems than any other thing on these forums. And it's ironic because they don't even realize they get squat performance boost with RAID 0 in their typical apps.

I've been using RAID 0 since the first raptors were introduced (original 36gb) and have NEVER had a single problem with them. I finally replaced both drives with 74gb 16mb cache raptors after 3 years of running 24/7 because I wanted more capacity for games and apps. Also, they're super fast access time is a great bonus in whatever you're doing.

As for performance... windows loads like a rocket, as do games... especially ones with longer load times. Video editing work with Adobe Premier also gains a solid boost in performance with RAID 0.

In regards to encoding... I also recommend a super fast processor with as many cores as you can get. My E6600 C2D @ 3.5ghz encodes soooooo much faster than my previous setup which was an X2 3800+ @ 2.5ghz.

Encode,no,write and read,yes.
And listen to uOpt, he's right..again..
Couple fast drives for the OS in raid0 and as fast as you can afford for storage.
encode on OS RAID with output file to the storage drive.
And nothing the matter with your cpu, not the fastest but plenty of stones for what your doing.

I pretty much agree. I would usually suggest getting two large drives and run RAID-1 with a separate fast OS/apps drive so you wont have to worry about the death of a RAID-0 array or a single backup large drive.

I run dual 74gb raptors in RAID-0 for my OS and applications/games and dual 250gb WD 16mb drives in RAID-0 for all my important files (photos, music, backups, etc)
Movieman
06-03-2007, 12:03 AM
Built my dual xeon 3600 rig in August-Sept 2005 from a huge score I made one night on ebay.
Bought 2-36 gig raptors and a Promise S150-TX2plus SATA raid card.
Cost for the 2 drives and the card was $280.00 then from newegg.
This is the machine I use for everything from encoding to DC work.
Yes, runs at 100% load 24/7 with maybe 10 boots amd one format since Sept 2005.
The raptors are still fine and never an issue.
I also credit the promise card as I never had anything they make fail me..ever!
dengyong
06-03-2007, 08:44 AM
Scan and defrags are so much faster with raptors in raid 0 as well.
OCme
06-03-2007, 09:20 AM
When I used Raid 0 I had problems with things opening from time to time & it seemed like my HD's would have to run disk check more often. I did notice that maps for games loaded faster. What I hated is that if one of the two drives failed I lost data that wasn't backed up. I use one 150GB Raptor for my boot drive now and that seems to be the most reliable and relatively fast solution for me.
Soulburner
06-03-2007, 11:23 AM
The 150gb Raptor will beat just about any RAID0 drive combination for gaming and level loading.
awdrifter
06-03-2007, 09:19 PM
Well, I tried for a lot of different methods and still can't figure out what's wrong, so I just reformatted my current hdd and set the two Seagates as additional storage, it seems to work fine.
Andrew LB
06-04-2007, 10:27 PM
The 150gb Raptor will beat just about any RAID0 drive combination for gaming and level loading.

One 150gb raptor is as fast as you'll get until you go for dual 150gb raptors in RAID-0.

I ran a few tests comparing a single 74gb 16mb cache Raptor against dual 250gb Western Digital 250gb 16mb cache drives in RAID 0 and the single drive was faster in everyday use due to the fast access time. Only in large file transfers were the raid drives faster.

Right now with my dual 74gb raptors in RAID 0, i get 148mb/s average read/write using HD Tach and over 230mb/s burst. That's some serious speed.
LethalSmite
06-05-2007, 12:55 AM
One 150gb raptor is as fast as you'll get until you go for dual 150gb raptors in RAID-0.

I ran a few tests comparing a single 74gb 16mb cache Raptor against dual 250gb Western Digital 250gb 16mb cache drives in RAID 0 and the single drive was faster in everyday use due to the fast access time. Only in large file transfers were the raid drives faster.

Right now with my dual 74gb raptors in RAID 0, i get 148mb/s average read/write using HD Tach and over 230mb/s burst. That's some serious speed.

5H17 thats fast. I'm gonna be using 2x250GB Seagates cos i need the storage and some speed boost. Obv it wont hit those speeds lol

I wanna see a RAID 0+1 raptor setup (just for the hell of it) might see a read speed increase compared to what you have :P