View Full Version : XFX 320MB 8800GTS testing results
dontloveme
02-07-2007, 02:04 AM
card just arrived looks like the same as 8800gts 640mb
see how it perform in the testing.
1st test is bit impressive,
with stock e6300 2gb ddr2-800 without touching any bios setting
3dmark 06 7608
tried same setting with 640mb 8800gts came out the same result D=
testing results so far:
320mb 3dmark06 7608 @ everything default
3dmark06 10012 @ E6300 2.8GHz card clock @633/1984
3dmark05 16113 @ E6300 2.8GHz card clock @633/1984
640mb 7628 @ everything default
testing sys:
E6300
Gskill DDR2-800 HK 4-4-3-5 2GB kit
Asus P5N32-E SLI
XFX 8800GTS 320mb/640mb
neoman
02-07-2007, 04:43 AM
Sweetness , looking for those scores :)
Rudyn
02-07-2007, 04:53 AM
Sweet... but where'd you get those from? They still pre-order?
zbogorgon
02-07-2007, 04:56 AM
so what's the point in opening the topic if you don't even have the cards :stick:
SOLDNER-MOFO64
02-07-2007, 04:57 AM
He's probably sooo excited at the idea he couldn't contain himself :p:
Aerou
02-07-2007, 05:24 AM
well, I know I'm excited ... cant wait to see results
zbogorgon
02-07-2007, 06:11 AM
as far as I see, they :banana: the card
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8880/img1747vm4.th.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1747vm4.jpg)
Does that mean it's bad in tems of overclocking?
Sampsa
02-08-2007, 02:04 AM
I received mine today, will post some oc numbers later.
I received mine today, will post some oc numbers later.
give us >11k '06 outa this card :D
11K 06 is easy with a 640MB card
Hell..so is 12 and probably 13K as long as the RAM clocks as well, and maybe even if it doesnt
11K 06 is easy with a 640MB card
well not sure it is that easy with 320mb as well :p: but initial stock result looks like a well-clocked X6600 and a good 320mb card can do 12-13k
dontloveme
02-08-2007, 03:35 AM
i think i know the reason why nvidia didnt give any of these cards for reviewing
i think i know the reason why nvidia didnt give any of these cards for reviewing
then tell us :p: is it because performance is too close to 640mb model?
dinos22
02-08-2007, 03:48 AM
i think i know the reason why nvidia didnt give any of these cards for reviewing
why lol
Rudyn
02-08-2007, 03:53 AM
then tell us :p: is it because performance is too close to 640mb model?
Think so... they're basicly the same card with lesser RAM (or maybe slightly different chip :slapass: ) so performance should be close I'd say.
And also where is the review? This is already "tomorrow night" isn't it?
metro.cl
02-08-2007, 04:12 AM
I received mine today, will post some oc numbers later.
is great to have you back sampsa :D
i'll be waiting for your results :toast: :toast:
MonkSP
02-08-2007, 05:21 AM
As far as I am seeing, the 320Mb GTS is doing 30% less marks on 06 then 640Mb version.
dontloveme
02-08-2007, 05:25 AM
just managed to break 10k with e6300 @ 2.8 2GB Gskill HK 4-4-3-5,card clocked @ 633/1984,i really h8 summer time,its so hot in my room at the moment
dontloveme
02-08-2007, 05:26 AM
As far as I am seeing, the 320Mb GTS is doing 30% less marks on 06 then 640Mb version.
how? my testing gives me the same result as 640mb ones
how? my testing gives me the same result as 640mb ones
QFT only 3% differnce
dontloveme
02-08-2007, 05:33 AM
i will get e6600/q6600 and sli 2x320mb ones tomorrow
i will get e6600/q6600 and sli 2x320mb ones tomorrow
Same question i ask to all 320mb owners ,price compared to the regular GTS? , Size also compared to the GTS ?
Rudyn
02-08-2007, 06:07 AM
just managed to break 10k with e6300 @ 2.8 2GB Gskill HK 4-4-3-5,card clocked @ 633/1984,i really h8 summer time,its so hot in my room at the moment
Is that 320MB GTS on 06?
GoldenTiger
02-08-2007, 06:25 AM
3dmark06 isn't that demanding anymore, is it? What about a game like Oblivion with a high-end texture pack, or any other high-end game? 3dmarks are cute and all, but pfffft :). I bought my 640MB eVGA 8800GTS a couple of weeks ago (which overclocks well, but that's not for this thread), just curious how it compares in real games to the 320MB one. Also, yeah, any word on price etc.?
GrimReaper
02-08-2007, 07:15 AM
QFT only 3% differnce
What about at higher resolutions with AA and AF enabled? :stick:
CedricFP
02-08-2007, 07:17 AM
Hmm, initial results look promising. Keep it up guys :)
mascaras
02-08-2007, 07:46 AM
what about 3dmark 2005 ????
im also waiting for 2x BFG 8800GTS OC 320mb for testing with a Asus Striker Extreme in SLI :)
cheers
MonkSP
02-08-2007, 08:32 AM
What about at higher resolutions with AA and AF enabled? :stick:
Right! We need real game resolutions so we can compare how they handle the textures in game environment.
If the 320mb marks are the same as the 640Mb model in 1280x1024 which is my tft resolution, with AA and AF enabled, I will be happy.
mascaras
02-08-2007, 09:29 AM
a guy from Greece that have one 8800 320mb (550/1600 default) says that in 2k5 with VGA default and E6600 @ 3600Mhz got 16500 marks :eek:
if this its true its simple amazing
Dontloveme can you run a 2k5 with E6300 ???
cheers
falqon
02-08-2007, 09:54 AM
2nd the request for just simply turn the res up.
3dmark06 at 1024 comparison is good, now how does it scale when compared to the bigger brother at 1600x1200?
What about at higher resolutions with AA and AF enabled? :stick:
i dont know we compared 3D mark06 default test only
mr_knowitall15
02-08-2007, 11:48 AM
Yeah, i think Higher res with AA enabled will show the real difference between the cards.
I understand that the score is stock, but i expected more than 7.6k in 06.
GrimReaper
02-08-2007, 11:54 AM
this is really sickining :mad: where are the reviews? I dont see a single site that has a review and proper comparison between the 640 and 320 GTS :banana:
mascaras
02-08-2007, 12:13 PM
this is really sickining :mad: where are the reviews? I dont see a single site that has a review and proper comparison between the 640 and 320 GTS :banana:
because reviews or sell the cards until 12 fev. its against nvidia laws
Yeah, i think Higher res with AA enabled will show the real difference between the cards.
I understand that the score is stock, but i expected more than 7.6k in 06.
9K with Conroe and some tweaking and No OC
s1rrah
02-08-2007, 01:28 PM
are there any online reviews comparing the 8800GTS with the old 7900GT's?
lowfat
02-08-2007, 02:05 PM
because reviews or sell the cards until 12 fev. its against nvidia laws
well then the 12th can't come soon enough.
What's the estimated price?
mascaras
02-08-2007, 02:58 PM
What's the estimated price?
here in portugal:
Gainward 8800gts 320mb = 319€
BFG 8800GTS OC (550/1500) 320mb = 325€
cheers
NiCKE^
02-08-2007, 03:03 PM
Leadtek will cost around 370 USD in Sweden.
dinos22
02-08-2007, 03:14 PM
LOL one of our retailers/wholesalers in Oz mentioned the other day that 8800GTS already went EOL LOL
Baron
02-08-2007, 04:03 PM
BFG version is going to cost just less than £200 in UK accroding to a code that was unlocked by some one on OcUKs wesbite.
Misco has them in stock at £200....£40 less than the cheapest 640MB version
mascaras
02-08-2007, 04:10 PM
BFG version is going to cost just less than £200 in UK accroding to a code that was unlocked by some one on OcUKs wesbite.
i bought one BFG 8800gts 320mb OC Edition (325€) in portugal already in stok but they only sell and ship them 12th fev .
cheers
zbogorgon
02-08-2007, 04:46 PM
EK watercooled, water temp 30°C , 1.45v/2.10v
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5876/59488234ft9.th.jpg (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=59488234ft9.jpg)
Timmay
02-08-2007, 05:26 PM
Image not working here.
dontloveme
02-08-2007, 05:35 PM
a guy from Greece that have one 8800 320mb (550/1600 default) says that in 2k5 with VGA default and E6600 @ 3600Mhz got 16500 marks :eek:
if this its true its simple amazing
Dontloveme can you run a 2k5 with E6300 ???
cheers
16113 633/1984
dontloveme
02-08-2007, 05:38 PM
my cost is 320USD + local tax
mascaras
02-08-2007, 05:45 PM
16113 633/1984
what was the speed of your E6300 when you got 16113 marks??? VGA cloks (633/1984)
some guys did this:
E6600@3600mhz --- 8800GTS OC Edition (550/1600 Default) = 16430 marks (2k5)
E6600 @ 3600mhz --- 8800GTS OC Edition (550/1600 Default ) = 9340 marks (2k6)
E6600@ 3600mhz -- 8800gts 320mb @ 630/950 --- 18090 marks (2k5)
Not Bad
EK watercooled, water temp 30°C , 1.45v/2.10v
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5876/59488234ft9.th.jpg (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=59488234ft9.jpg)
is that score with 8800gts 320mb???
cheers
zbogorgon
02-08-2007, 06:32 PM
indeed
dontloveme
02-08-2007, 06:32 PM
what was the speed of your E6300 when you got 16113 marks??? VGA cloks (633/2984)
some guys did this:
E6600@3600mhz --- 8800GTS OC Edition (550/1600 Default) = 16430 marks (2k5)
E6600 @ 3600mhz --- 8800GTS OC Edition (550/1600 Default ) = 9340 marks (2k6)
Not Bad
is that score with 8800gts 320mb???
cheers
cheers
there are heeps boost with e6600 clock at 3.6;the e6300 i used only clocked at 2.8ghz,since vista release its so damn busy.
i dont think i will be able to sli 2 cards coz all 3 card i have got have already stolen by 3 mates.:mad:
mascaras
02-08-2007, 06:43 PM
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i dont think i will be able to sli 2 cards coz all 3 card i have got have already stolen by 3 mates.:mad:
hehehehhe :D
i will have 2 BFG 8800GTS OC to test SLi , then i post results ;)
but im thinking use Win XP cause with Vista we can`t OC the cards in SLi :(
cheers
dontloveme
02-08-2007, 09:37 PM
hehehehhe :D
i will have 2 BFG 8800GTS OC to test SLi , then i post results ;)
but im thinking use Win XP cause with Vista we can`t OC the cards in SLi :(
cheers
lucky bastard,i dont have any left for myself even:mad: :mad: :mad:
i have been using 7300gt for my css for 4 weeks now
I stick with the idea that 3DMark scoring will be so close to the 640MB models that any score difference will be within the differences of a users setup.
Real-world FPS difference will be the only tell-apart, and I dont think that`ll be big either.
One things for sure: the 320MB model will goose the resale value of the 640MB model (obviously...what I wanna sell) and coz i`m getting ****** around by someone shipping me a new CPU, I aint done benching it yet
[/bitter] :p:
zbogorgon, did the EK block fit without a hassle?
mascaras
02-09-2007, 04:58 AM
I stick with the idea that 3DMark scoring will be so close to the 640MB models that any score difference will be within the differences of a users setup.
100% right ;)
Real-world FPS difference will be the only tell-apart, and I dont think that`ll be big either.
[/bitter] :p:
you´r right again ;)
Makes a nice change for me! :)
Sampsa
02-09-2007, 09:33 AM
default cooling, GPU: 665 and mem: 2130 MHz :)
E4300 @ 3,5 GHz
3DMark05: +18k
3DMark06: +11k
KJatl
02-09-2007, 10:09 AM
I wanna see some benchmarks run at 1600x1200 or 1680x1050 res. I offer a cookie and a <3 as a reward. =)
Aerou
02-09-2007, 12:59 PM
EK watercooled, water temp 30°C , 1.45v/2.10v
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5876/59488234ft9.th.jpg (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=59488234ft9.jpg)
nice one :clap:
what are the default voltages?
what are the temps under load (when OCed)
thx man
zbogorgon
02-09-2007, 03:03 PM
zbogorgon, did the EK block fit without a hassle?
no problem, PCB is exactly the same as 8800GTS 640MB
nice one :clap:
what are the default voltages?
what are the temps under load (when OCed)
thx man
the same as 8800GTS 640, 1.35v and 1.89
loaded were ~45,46, with water temp at 30°C
no problem, PCB is exactly the same as 8800GTS 640MB
the same as 8800GTS 640, 1.35v and 1.89
loaded were ~45,46, with water temp at 30°C
Oh..sweet! Everyone else in the 8800GTS 640MB voltmod thread had a stock VCore of 1.26V except me...I had 1.35V....unless yours is voltmodded as well as watercooled?
K
CedricFP
02-09-2007, 04:54 PM
Looks like a good card. I'll be picking this one up if prices drop below 299.
smsmasters
02-09-2007, 05:14 PM
They are £199 in the UK at overclockers.co.uk, already shipping since yesterday.
CedricFP
02-09-2007, 05:31 PM
They are £199 in the UK at overclockers.co.uk, already shipping since yesterday.
That's incredibly expensive.... in Hong Kong, I can get a 640MB GTS for that much... we don't have VAT over here though. No sales tax to speak of.
smsmasters
02-09-2007, 05:35 PM
That's incredibly expensive.... in Hong Kong, I can get a 640MB GTS for that much... we don't have VAT over here though. No sales tax to speak of.
Yup, UK tax is 17.5%. :(
dinos22
02-09-2007, 05:37 PM
poms get ripped off blind.....we are not too far behind on this island either lol
manomanx2
02-09-2007, 06:09 PM
I can already envision it:
DFI Infinity P965 + e6400 + 8800GTS. :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing score.
:banana:
swiftex
02-09-2007, 08:55 PM
how? my testing gives me the same result as 640mb ones
do you think it should be 320mb vs 384mb for GTS? guys, better do some research!
memory interface 320mb for gts vs 384mb for gtx
video memory is still 640mb for gts holy crapolla!
swiftex :What are trying to say?
:fact:
GTX = Video memory 768MB : Memory interface 384-bit
GTS = Video memory 640MB : Memory interface 320-bit
GTS = Video memory 320MB : Memory interface 320-bit
zakelwe
02-10-2007, 03:03 AM
The real test for this card will be at native resolutions for the 22inch monitor scene I think as that is a really good cheap combo in the coming months. If it can do the AA and AF at this resolution and not be penalised over 640MB then it will be the real deal.
If you think about it 640MB is pretty high anyway when considering this
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/gigabyte-foxconn-gf7950gt.html
of course that is for current games but here 640MB looks like overkill and 320Mb looks like it might be very well judged indeed.
Need to see those main web site reviews though and hopefully beta Crysis bench :)
Regards
Andy
DTU_XaVier
02-10-2007, 03:34 AM
This might sound dumb andy, but what exactly from a game uses the video memory?
All textures are stored there, and AA and HDR use it to for Post-processing... :)
BEst Regards :toast:
lowfat
02-10-2007, 03:14 PM
The real test for this card will be at native resolutions for the 22inch monitor scene I think as that is a really good cheap combo in the coming months. If it can do the AA and AF at this resolution and not be penalised over 640MB then it will be the real deal.
If you think about it 640MB is pretty high anyway when considering this
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/gigabyte-foxconn-gf7950gt.html
of course that is for current games but here 640MB looks like overkill and 320Mb looks like it might be very well judged indeed.
Need to see those main web site reviews though and hopefully beta Crysis bench :)
Regards
Andy
wow, no difference at at all :)
alpha0ne
02-10-2007, 05:56 PM
It actually looks like a worthwhile upgrade for even an X1900XT :eek: :rolleyes:
Oh no..............the cycle begins again :( :slapass:
BulldogPO
02-11-2007, 03:36 AM
I´ll think of upgrading my 7900GTO to this..
s1rrah
02-11-2007, 07:37 AM
I´ll think of upgrading my 7900GTO to this..
friends bringing his 8800GTS over today and were going to run it through a bunch of tests against my volt modded 7900GT; i'll post some results later tonight ...
friends bringing his 8800GTS over today and were going to run it through a bunch of tests against my volt modded 7900GT; i'll post some results later tonight ...
Tell your friend to be prepared to go home with a 7900GT before you start testing.:D
s1rrah
02-11-2007, 08:54 AM
Tell your friend to be prepared to go home with a 7900GT before you start testing.:D
funny.
he just bought it to test it out; he's most likely going to take it back for a refund unless it shows huge increases in 3DSMax and Cinebench scores; we'll be testing it in those applications as well as a couple games and 3Dmark05.
he doesn't game at all; just wants a good card for video and 3D and vector animation work. he's worried about the 8800GTS being a bit overkill (price-wise) for the professional design arena.
BulldogPO
02-13-2007, 08:15 AM
Please somebody test 320MB vs 640MB at 1920x1200 resolution.
s1rrah
02-13-2007, 01:34 PM
Tell your friend to be prepared to go home with a 7900GT before you start testing.:D
well we hooked it up and tested it but something must have been stupidly wrong with the card, drivers, or something.
the 8800GTS was almost twice as fast in the HDR Test ... running at around 60fps vs. the 7900GT's 37fps.
but in half life 2 lost coast and in aquamark the 8800GTS produced terrible scores, way slower than the 7900GT. we didn't know what to think of it as it was getting plenty of power ... maybe cause we were using DirectX 9 instead of DirectX 10? i use XP and so no DX10 ...
so what's up with that?
dinos22
02-13-2007, 01:37 PM
so what's up with that?
looks like drivers need some work
mascaras
02-13-2007, 06:21 PM
i tested BFG 8800GTS OC 320mb Vs x1950xtx 512 (Games)
i also tested Single BFG 8800GTS OC 320mb ( Not extreme CPu and VGA clocks -- 2k5 , 2k6 )
and for last i testes 2x BFG 8800GTS OC 320mb SLi (Default) Vs 8800GTX (Default) ----- 2k5 and 2k6
if anyone interested in the results here it is (portuguese)>>> Download Mini-Review BFG 8800GTS OC 320mb -Single & SLi (http://www.sendspace.com/file/p1zw6m)
cheers
CedricFP
02-13-2007, 09:53 PM
Well I could run Doom 3 with my X800GTO2 on highest without stuttering... and that was only 256 MB.
mascaras
02-14-2007, 06:49 AM
Could you guys actually test these cards in actuall games and play them yourselvs and tell us if there is stuttering using the lower 320mb version vs the 640mb version in high resolutions. Cuss it was the same way with the 6800's back in doom3 the 256mb ones stutterd in 1600x1200 max AA/AF or higher resoution cuss the game used all the memory up and 512mb was smooth. I predict itll be the same way with the 320mb GTS's and 640mb GTS.
All these new games out that use complex texturs and Polygons I highly doubt 320mb will be enough for 1600x1200 with the max AA/AF settings on. Im not talkin about FPS either im talkin about pur memory storage meaning occasional stuttering in games due to lack of Vram.
Its funny all these reviews that show scores and FPS, mean nothing to me when it doesnt run smooth. Like i said before the 6800gt's and Ultra were all the same cept memory size and slight clock differances which could be solved by overclocking yet the ones with more memory didnt stutter on high resolutions, The fps will be the same but it wont run smooth.
Someone please prove me wrong? Im pretty sure i hit the nogger on this subject
in games like CoH or Arma (heavy games) with high resolutions , yes is stuttering using 320mb version
cheers
falqon
02-14-2007, 10:03 AM
Its funny all these reviews that show scores and FPS, mean nothing to me when it doesnt run smooth.
Please explain how something can have a high FPS and not run smooth.
You do realize that above 30fps or so the changes are faster than your eye can detect?
falqon
02-14-2007, 01:46 PM
You dont understand or havent read anything have said have you ?
You can get really high FPS, but still have a stutter of hiccup from the VRAM swapping to the System Ram because the VRam ran out. Understand.
I understand what you're trying to say, even before you went on and on about simpleton concepts.
Instead of going on and on about how video games and memory works, how do you get really high FPS and stutter? Wouldn't the stutter be evident by slowing down the average FPS? Your logic completely escapes me.
Or couldn't you just read a review that included minimum FPS, such as http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1053&pageID=3108
or
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=10&artpage=2337&articID=543
or I believe HardOCP has been doing it with min for at least a couple years now.
wittekakker
02-14-2007, 03:11 PM
no problem, PCB is exactly the same as 8800GTS 640MB
the same as 8800GTS 640, 1.35v and 1.89
loaded were ~45,46, with water temp at 30°C
Sparkle's card runs at 1.3V real.
A great temp chart with stock cooling can be found here: http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=12&artpage=2339&articID=543
Also look for the noise chart below ;)
And the Oblivion benchmark shows a history log of the differances between 320Mb and 640Mb.
HermS
02-14-2007, 05:06 PM
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=12&artpage=2339&articID=543.
quality review :toast:
mine runs 1.28v at load.
falqon
02-15-2007, 09:21 AM
which is a good example of lack of memory, lack of memory leads to a not smooth performance. Ty for posting that review
I sent you that review, and you said that you
dont need to read any of those because i have first hand already done that, and i know what im talkin about"
The interesting thing about that review is that the min FPS in Oblivion HQ are the same, so I don't think there is evidence of paging at all.
mascaras
02-15-2007, 09:31 AM
Do you have the 640mb to test if it was the memory causing this ? Which to me it sounds it is
no but i test GTS 320mb vs X1950XTX 512mb
for example in very heavy games like Company heroes even 1280x1024 with AA & AF ON , you can see the hard drive reading during the game and with x1950xtx 512mb you wont see that , this happens when the VGA RAM its not enough and needs to use system resources .
sory for bad english
cheers
wittekakker
02-15-2007, 01:28 PM
I sent you that review, and you said that you
The interesting thing about that review is that the min FPS in Oblivion HQ are the same, so I don't think there is evidence of paging at all.
The most important thing is that you watch what is going on in that chart, do not trust on numbers.
falqon
02-15-2007, 01:37 PM
the chart is made FROM the numbers? What is it with everybody's aversion to basic math?
Avg FPS is not going to hide low spots, and low numbers are going to be reflected on the chart.
wittekakker
02-16-2007, 02:35 AM
the chart is made FROM the numbers? What is it with everybody's aversion to basic math?
Avg FPS is not going to hide low spots, and low numbers are going to be reflected on the chart.
Actually there are two graphs, so when I say "The most important thing is that you watch what is going on in that chart, do not trust on numbers", guess which of those I was talking about.
falqon
02-16-2007, 05:27 AM
Actually there are two graphs, so when I say "The most important thing is that you watch what is going on in that chart, do not trust on numbers", guess which of those I was talking about.
I couldn't care less what you were talking about, the chart that I was referring too which YOU quoted shows FPS over time, and has a minimum FPS of 34 in oblivion, which is made even more obvious by the Min FPS plainly stated on the chart below it.
34FPS which isn't much of a stutter considering it's still fast enough that you can't notice it. Despite what people think they've experienced.
those drops would be visible in FRAPS and displayed in a linechart, none occurred here because we benchmarked a sessions where there is no loading of map levels, the reason why there are hiccups in Oblivion/FEAR, since it's loading a new section of the map, which drops your FPS.
falqon
02-18-2007, 08:20 PM
those drops would be visible in FRAPS and displayed in a linechart,
Finally, somebody who understands how a chart is produced.
If there is a "hiccup", then FPS will drop and it will be recorded.
There is a difference between reading a chart, and actually experiancing it. You know the saying about booksmart people ?
The chart is a representation of reality, it's as simple as that.
I know exactly what booksmart people are referred to as, (like the ones who understand how a "frame" is rendered), people like you will call them "boss"
cursivearmy1
02-18-2007, 09:36 PM
as a pny 8800gts 640mb owner I have a few ?'s
does it run cooler than 640mb versions?
is it worth me selling my 640mb version to get a little bit of cash in the pocket or would I lose too much performance?
answer is no for both questions, GPU doesn't run cooler, and difference in price vs selling 640Mb second hand and buying new 320Mb is too small to bother with imho :)
Finally, somebody who understands how a chart is produced.
wouldn't be worrying if I didn't recall how we created the chart for the site;)
Anonymous
02-20-2007, 10:56 PM
You dont understand or havent read anything have said have you ?
You can get really high FPS, but still have a stutter of hiccup from the VRAM swapping to the System Ram because the VRam ran out. Understand.
Think of it as this, You have 512mb of system memory and 8800GTX, and your Playing BF2 or BF2142 with the details on high and the resolution set @ say 1280x1024. You may be getting high FPS but your system is swapping back and forth to the HDD using the HDD as virtual memory because the lack of system memory thus causing a jerky fealing or slight pauses in the game.
That my friend is what i am talking about, someone already posted on his 320mb card he had that problem, which means a lack of video ram, thus the 640mb card overall if you plan to play on resolutions higher then 1280x1024 with the detail to the max and the highest AA/AF settings is the better choice simply because i can almost garuntee you the 320mb card will cause stutters in the top games out now and in the future.
If you read that review on xbits, about 256mb vs 512mb they mention that ID software recomended 512mb for the Ultra High quality details and High reolutions on Doom3 back then that was to keep the game from stuttering. Xbits only tested the FPS and said oh the fps was fine so 512mb wasnt needed, which wasnt true they only tested the frames per second and they never tested to see if the game actually ran smooth.
There is a way to type in the consol on Doom3 to see how much Video ram the game is using. I wish i could remember the command i would go play Doom3 right now @ 1600x1200 using the Ultra High Quality setting @ 16xAA 16XAF and see how much memory it truely uses. I remember back then on my 6800GT that it used all the 256mb the card had it actually showd it on the top left of the screen like fraps would show fps and i had random stutter's or hicup's while playing the game most noticable when Door's opened to new Area's is when the hiccup's happend. That is because there was a lack of memory on the video card when i switch to the 6800Ultra (keep in mind the Ultra is the same exact card as the 6800GT just higher clocks and more memory) which has 512mb of memory the game was using over 300mb on it and my stutter/hicup problems went away
If you dont understand after i typed all this then your hopeless. This all Apply's to top games out now and comming in the future. Games Using the D3 Engine, or the UT3 Engine or the new Farcry game, or hell even games out now like oblivion and fear. Which why i am saying i wouldnt get the 320mb card if you plan to play on super high settings and resolutions because you will most likely have these stutters and hiccup's most noticably when you enter new area's in the game when Door's Open and stuff like that.
This is why you cant trust most of these Reviews from these Website's like Xbit because if all they do is run the benchmark's in the game and collect the final FPS @ the end, you are not getting the full review especially when they are comparing 256mb vs 512mb. That is not all that needs to be tested the game actually needs to be played by a person on each card and see if the lower card can handle all the data being thrown @ it without a hiccup like the card with more memory can.
Jesus tap-dancing Christ....
I pray to god you are currently learning the English language.
Not only are your spelling and grammatical skills horrendous, you cannot even compose a coherent structured sentence. Please, for the sake of anyone who has to read and comprehend what you type, buy a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing dictionary and grammar book instead of computer parts.
Shampoo
02-22-2007, 12:43 AM
LOL Funny stuff.
Been a while since I've posted here.
I have one major question for you guys.
I've been considering the 8800GTS 320MB and selling my 7900GT w/vf-900.
Thing is I don't know if my power supply is up to snuff with everything I have in my setup. So here goes,
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Opteron 146 @ 2.8GHz 1.5v
DFI Lanparty Ultra-D
OCZ Platinum PC4000EB 2GB @ 260ish-MHz(520DDRish)
XFX 7900GT 256MB "520M" (black pcb) OC@ 570/840MHz(1680DDR)(core/mem)
3x80mm Fans (2xfront, 1exhaust)
Cooler Master CoolDrive4
1 Cold Cathodray Tube
X-Fi XtremeMusic
1x Raptor 74GB SATA
1x WD800JB IDE
1x WD1600JB IDE
1x Seagate 7200.10 320GB SATA
2x LG DVD-RW (H10N and H22N).
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Ooooooooooookay. So I'm running all that with an OCZ Powerstream 520 SLI. After using that ever so popular powersupply calculator online it said something close to 600w recommended, but my PSU is good for 33A on the 12V line. Okay, so do you guys think I'll be okay with throwing in the 8800GTS 320MB or not?
I think I'm pushing it already with my setup, but who knows.
Any information greatly appreciated.
Also I noticed one guy over at ocforums.com with a similar setup as mine in terms of the number of harddrives in his system, but on a Pentium-D system and he has an 8800GTX in there using the same power supply and was complaining of bad performance.
Everyone is telling him it's his CPU holding him back from higher performance, but I think it might be because his power supply just isn't up to snuff and isn't able to supply enough power to all his parts.
Whelps, let me know. If I have too many harddrives (4 to be exact), I'm thinking about tossing the two IDE's into external enclosures and ditching the power sapping blue cold cathod tube.
I don't want to get another power supply, it's out of my budget, because that's about another 140 bucks for a good one. (canadian dollars).
Cheers,
Mike
Everyone is telling him it's his CPU holding him back from higher performance, but I think it might be because his power supply just isn't up to snuff and isn't able to supply enough power to all his parts.
if the PSU is bad, PC will crash, not "work slower", that system config, with GTS, will run of 520W easily in my opinion.
Shampoo
02-23-2007, 02:53 AM
Actually yes the computer will "slow down" in some cases, with parts not getting a proper supply of power they throttle down or act up and give a feeling of a "slow down" although it's not really a slow down.
Yes the 8800GTS should be okay with a 520Watt power supply such as my OCZ Powerstream 520 SLI.
That wasn't my question though, I already know that.
My question was, will the addition of the 8800GTS to MY system SETUP be too much?
What with all of the harddrives I have with power sapping cold cathods and fans, fan controler, overclocked cpu, etc.
I'm thinking about taking out a couple of my harddrives to help with the total wattage required, but I guess we'll find out once I get my card, hopefully by tomorrow (friday), but probably by saturday.
I decided on the eVGA 8800GTS 640MB version since it's on sale and has a rebate.
439.99 canadian dollars. not bad, not bad at all considering some 8800GTS 320mb versions cost 400 and up.
Cheers,
Mike
Shampoo
02-25-2007, 04:02 PM
So far so good.
Picked up an eVGA 8800GTS from work and at first it was blue screening and acting up straight ouf of the box.
Went through the process of cleaning the card like I did with my many problematic 7900GT's. I went through 4 cards.
Anyways, I brushed off the back of the card with my notebook keyboard brush, incase there was debris left from the factory.
Blew on the surface a few times, of course with my eyes closed incase something blew off and into my eyes. I ran out of compressed air incase you guys were wondering why I was blowing on the card. =D
Turned the card around blew into the fan and anywhere else I could, including the PCI-E power adapter.
Finally threw it back into my system, with 2 of my 4 harddrives unplugged incase my PSU wasn't up to the task.
Booted up, worked. Did a couple of clean driver installs because of more BSOD's.
Now I've got her running pretty well. Haven't had much time to play with her yet, but the highest she's gone is 90 degrees celsius using AtiTool's cube stress test.
After setting the fan to stay at 80% using rivatuner and opening up two pci slot covers at the back of my Kingwin KT424 case, she's running 85ish full out.
I'm now experimenting with overclocking and have her at 620/2000 right now.
I'm pretty pleased with this card. I just wish I had the black pcb instead of the green one. =(
Scored 6800ish in 3dmark06 straight ouf of the box and am now hitting 7300ish overclocked.
I had to drop my Opty 146 from 2.8GHz to 2.75GHz which dropped my ram from 260MHz to 250MHz for stability. I guess I wasn't fully stable before.
Hrmm, maybe that's why my 7900GT's were acting up.
Oh well, things are cool so far.
Loving the image quality of this card over its performance. The water effects in 3dmark06 look so freakin' awesome.
Crossing my fingers and hoping nothing goes wrong from here on out.
Oh yeah I plugged in the other 2 harddrives and no problems so far.
Cheers,
Mike