Is this Real... My 6200 TC, doing 1.9 ghz on the memory...

[Kunaak]

ok, I admit, I have no idea what a normal 6200TC is like, and I really havent seen anything from these in the past...

but when I saw the recommended speeds after "auto detect OC" from Coolbits showing 1.48 ghz, I was alittle surprise, I mean, I knew the card had DDR3 or DDR2 on it, cause the memory is small and square, but I've never actually did anything with this card, other then use it as a back up for testing.

well today, going for some different clocking, I moved to some air cooling, and put my little 6200TC in there...
outta sheer curiousity I gave it a try on 2001se, and it was ok.
well, that just kinda got me going... and a hour or so later, I was up to about 1.9 ghz on the memory...

and I can't help but to feel thats kinda crazy...
how in the world could a card this weak have memory like this?

looking at rivatuner, I see my speed read as 950 mhz... which is just like my 8800GTX... half the actual speed...

but I still have a hard time thinking this little junker can really be doing 1.9 ghz on the memory...

so whats real??

[dinos22]

have you run the card at stock and then just OC the RAM to 1.9GHz....see how much improvement in scores that gives

it's amazing if true :eek:

[Kunaak]

yes, got about 9k at stock.

and 15k at this speed.

[dinos22]

yes, got about 9k at stock.

and 15k at this speed.
wow what about the core...can you run the core at stock at both benches and just OC RAM :)

[Bootup05]

:eek: Wowm how much do these cards usualy cost, maybe someone could get their hands on one and see how far they get theirs, or someone else who already has one try it...

I was pretty gobsmacked when i got the mem on my 7600GT XT to 1.86Ghz, but 40MHz more, for an even slower card is just amazing:confused: What's the stock mem timings on that thing?

[Kunaak]

haha...

this is one of them old type cards that have no throttle, so you can set it to self destruct speeds, and it will still pass benchmarks... assuming it doesnt freeze up.

480/2000 just passed Aquamark3...
looked like a psychodelic snow storm... but who care.

[Starscream]

what do the chips of this card say?

[Kunaak]

tops for this card on Aquamark3.

this was 480/2000.

[[XC] gomeler]

That card is so cute, trying to hang out with the big guns :p: Pretty stellar mem performance, looks like you need to vmod the core, slap some nice cooling on it and go for 25k 3d01.

[Charloz24]

Now I know who stole all my gold in Hwbot 6200TC section !!!

Good job!

[cadaveca]

Some TC's are down-binned 6600's.

[Rubiconx3]

Well its the turbo cache, so it uses your system memory as a buffer

[Kunaak]

That card is so cute, trying to hang out with the big guns :p: Pretty stellar mem performance, looks like you need to vmod the core, slap some nice cooling on it and go for 25k 3d01.

I really really dont think 25k is possible with this card.

most of the top 6200 scores are unlocked 6200's with 8 pipelines, and 128 bit memory.

this is locked at 4 pipes, and is 64 bit.
theres no much I can do with this card other then volt mod it, and hope for 20k.

CPU speed really doesnt make a differnce when a cards this slow...

[zakelwe]

I highly doubt 1ns speeds from that stuff, something is amiss I think. Has it got any markings on the memory chips ?

Can you 2001 dragothic low runs at 500 / 1000 / 1500 / 2000 memory speeds so I can see the fps you get ? No LOD. I would expect a 64 bit card to really benefit from a real increase in speed even if it is only 4 pipes.

Regards

Andy

[Kunaak]

500 and 1000 are well below the stock speeds of the card... the stock speed is 350/1333

[zakelwe]

1333 is the reported stock memory eh. What make of card is it ?

I notice you are being very backward with any real info, I think you are pulling our chains :D

The whole point for the cheap turbocache cards was to use in conjunction with slow main memory to keep costs low so I would doubt the chips on there are very fast.

Regards

Andy

[Kunaak]

1333 is the reported stock memory eh. What make of card is it ?

I notice you are being very backward with any real info, I think you are pulling our chains :D



Andy

its an evga.

yes, ignoring this topic cause I have 2 slightly more interesting topics going today in the intel area.
this card is just a "WTF" thing thats in the back of my mind.
at the front, is the intel topic about my 333 FSB BSEL mod, and 680i post...

[Starscream]

its an evga.

yes, ignoring this topic cause I have 2 slightly more interesting topics going today in the intel area.
this card is just a "WTF" thing thats in the back of my mind.
at the front, is the intel topic about my 333 FSB BSEL mod, and 680i post...

yar we can understand, but because this a WTF thing we want to know whats written on the chips.

the speeds this ram is doing r sweet so id just take it out of the PC and frame it.

[jimwah]

Looks a bit bugged: stock clocks are 350/400 iirc. Is that definately a 128mb onboard RAM/128Mb system RAM card? I'm just sad 'cos you caned some of my hwboints :p:

http://www.hwbot.org/quickSearch.do?hardwareId=GPU_1116

[Fr3ak]

Thats a really odd card. Its either bugged or the card has golden RAM.
I just had a look at what is available in Germany and the 6200/7100GS cards vary between 200 and 400 Mhz.
I have a onboard 6100 in this rig and it uses only the system ram, but I can set any clockspeed I want using AtiTool, but it doesnt really do anything, except changing the numbers.
But if you get higher benchmark scores with every memory OC you do, something must be definately changing.

[massman]

Very strange ... please shoot a high-res pic of one of the memchips ;)

[Hystrix^]

Insane mems, if it isn't a bug

[massman]

One thing I can think of is that the programs are reading out the wrong speeds, so instead of 1900 or 950 it should be 450, but that wouldn't explain the good benchmarks as he gains +/- 6k.

[zakelwe]

Maybe there was a screw up at the factory and there are also a group of EVGA owners struggling to get 400Mhz on their 8800GTX 's :rofl:

Regards

Andy

[Kunaak]

heres the Mem.

[Kunaak]

and the card itself.

[Fr3ak]

Thats 2.8ns DDR2. I dont think it could run close to 2ghz? Even half of that would be most likely impossible :confused::confused::confused:

Its the PCIE version of this card here I suppose:
http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/128-A8-N339.pdf

200Mhz ram speed....

Edit: Hmm the link on their website said its DDR2, so its not the card from that pdf.

[Kunaak]

so what cards have had 2.8 NS ram?
I honestly cant remember...

I am thinking cards like the 9800 pro or 5900 NU.
but those werent DDR2...

so what card has had DDR2 at 2.8 NS?
that would better give an idea of what is possible from this kinda ram.
I am far more inclined to believe that 950 was the true speed myself, but it still is kinda weird to see 1.9 as the speed...
that still just makes me speechless.

[Fr3ak]

Hmm that was before I was interested in all the details of pc hardware. I thnik my 6600GT apg had 2.8ns DDR2. Will try to find that out. I only had the card for like 2 weeks, because it was as fast as my 9700 and kept on crashing.

[Gautam]

I'm pretty sure 9800 Pro's and 9700 Pro's had 2.8ns memory.

It was a feat to even get much further than 400 (800MHz DDR) with those, so frankly even if it is 950MHz DDR here, that's still very good for these kind of IC's.

[Fr3ak]

YE those cards and the 9600 pro, x700 and a couple more cards

Here is a list of Leadtek products:
http://www.rectron.com.au/leadtek_Gamecard.htm

[Kunaak]

I'm pretty sure 9800 Pro's and 9700 Pro's had 2.8ns memory.

It was a feat to even get much further than 400 (800MHz DDR) with those, so frankly even if it is 950MHz DDR here, that's still very good for these kind of IC's.

its DDR2, so it would definatly act different then ram on a 9800 pro.

plus, the 64 bit limit should reduce the stress on the ram, allowing for higher OC's easier. much like lower then LDT on A64 boards will get you much higher OC's on the HTT.

still... a weird little card to say the least.

[Starscream]

there were 9800s with DDR and DDR2 ram.

just google it.

maybe use another tool to read ram speed? to verify.

[Kunaak]

there were 9800s with DDR and DDR2 ram.

just google it.

maybe use another tool to read ram speed? to verify.

yes I know about the 256 meg DDR2 9800 Pro, but that thing was such junk, that it barely a card worth even thinking of comparing to.

[SoulGG]

In one of my rigs I had a 6200TC, it did about 800mhz on the memory on the CD drivers. Then when I installed the latest drives from the nvidia site it showed it as 1.6ghz instead of the actual 800 it's running.

I think it's the same situation

driver bug to the fullest

[Flak Monkey]

My friends 7800GTX has the same bug, show double the actual memory speed. He still likes to claim it's running at 2.4Ghz though.

[nike]

yer,the bug is caused by the newer drivers, it doubles the mem speed or sth like that. the bug is also only shown in the control panel i guess, in rivatuner i get also my normal mem speed, i didnt read the topic so i donno if u read the clocks via rivatuner, if u did.. just forget this post

[Gam3Ra]

the 9x.xx drivers read the memory speed x2.

[lawrywild]

Yeh, it's a bug, my 7800GT used to read as 2700 mhz rather than 1350...

[Kunaak]

atleast now I know, the card can do 1 ghz memory...
not 2.

still... pretty damn cool to know it will do 1 ghz...
for a card barely worth $20 its hard to complain.