View Full Version : 8800GTX Now or Wait for R600?
Avman
02-01-2007, 12:50 PM
As per the title - Any opinions on what I should do?
SparkyJJO
02-01-2007, 01:37 PM
Personally I'd wait and see how R600 stacks up to the 8800 and buy the better of the two
better to wait for R600 come to market
coz the prize of 8800 will drop , and you can get it cheaper than now
otogrim
02-01-2007, 02:20 PM
Yep...wait so you can compare. Just don't wait anymore after that, or you'll fall victim to the waiting disease
Tonucci
02-01-2007, 02:31 PM
Yep...wait so you can compare. Just don't wait anymore after that, or you'll fall victim to the waiting disease
Lol, yeah. Wait for G80 refresh maybe ? :D How about 8950GX2, 2x1Gb GDDR4, 512bit....
I would just wait for R600 to decide, its almost here...
quicksilverXP
02-01-2007, 03:10 PM
I would just get the 8800 now... you can get it for near 500 dollars and you can bet the R600 won't be out until May or June. And when it does it'll cost around 800 dollars for the high end. I'm sure the 8800GTX at near 500 will be a better buy than the R600 at its introductory price.
couppi
02-01-2007, 04:30 PM
$500-$600 is a big investment. Personally, I'd wait and see what the R600 has to offer.
Drunner611
02-01-2007, 04:35 PM
They just announced that the R600 will be a paper launch in April. It's gonna be along wait. By that time, 2nd gen Nvidia DX10 cards will be floating around too, so you'll be able to grab an 8800gtx cheap(er).
J-Mag
02-01-2007, 04:55 PM
If you want more GPU redering power now, then buy the 8800gtx now.
If your current rig is playing games that you are currently into fine, then wait.
epion2985
02-01-2007, 05:20 PM
They just announced that the R600 will be a paper launch in April. It's gonna be along wait. By that time, 2nd gen Nvidia DX10 cards will be floating around too, so you'll be able to grab an 8800gtx cheap(er).
Proof please. I have seen no such claim.
Wiki shows more like late February/March
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_R600
R600 has undergone several delays and revisions for technical reasons, such as serious bugs inside the GPU itself, PCB re-design processes (see here), and so on
I would definitely wait for R600. No since is spending $500 now when you get get set up much better for a little bit more and a small wait.
Plus everyone knows its all about ati lol :)
Drunner611
02-01-2007, 05:56 PM
Proof please. I have seen no such claim.
Wiki shows more like late February/March
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_R600
Um yeah, read the news section. Its there right now.:stick:
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=132373
Speederlander
02-01-2007, 07:16 PM
$500-$600 is a big investment. Personally, I'd wait and see what the R600 has to offer.
You will likely end up waiting until the beginning or middle of summer for actual availability, and by then next nVidia will be out...but you might want to wait at that point because the specs for next ATI release will also be leaked and you will only have to hold out maybe 5 more months...
otogrim
02-01-2007, 08:21 PM
If he's using the 7900gt in his sig...then waiting 6 months wont kill him
epion2985
02-01-2007, 09:31 PM
Um yeah, read the news section. Its there right now.:stick:
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=132373
Just because vr said something doesn't make it true. They spouted their shear of crap. Though I would agree the wiki in no more verified so its a toss up. Could be both wrong.
Drunner611
02-02-2007, 06:37 AM
Just because vr said something doesn't make it true. They spouted their shear of crap. Though I would agree the wiki in no more verified so its a toss up. Could be both wrong.
Fair enough. I'll take the draw. :D
JeffnWV
02-02-2007, 07:15 AM
Life's too short, get the 8800's now and be happy. It's only money and that always comes around.
Besides, you can get the EVGA's and upgrade later with their plan.
decide it yourself,
just kidding. get nvidia
L'enFer
02-04-2007, 10:57 AM
if you've time for waiting then why not? there will no difference if you buy 8800GTS/GTX now or later. at least you will know which is better.
Anemone
02-04-2007, 11:20 AM
Given what you have, wait.
2 reasons:
1 The 8800 is quite warm and will be a far more "refined" product when they shrink the process and tune it up some. That speaks that the 8900 would be a cooler and faster product that will have given time for it to mature. The very driver issue in Vista now speaks a great deal of how not quite ready the 8800 was. It works, but it can be better.
2 Unless you are really "in need" it pays to wait at least until there is a competitor on the market. Prices approach reality much faster when that happens, and waiting a couple of months to at least save 100-200 bucks does seem reasonable, IF you have no current major need.
So wait 1 for at least a competitor R600 to be on the market. Best waiting period would be for the 8900 to refine the product a bit more. As you'll recall the 7900 refined things a bit over the 7800. The 7800 was and is a great product, so people didn't do badly buying one. But the 7900 was cooler and faster and the video functions worked finally.
Clearly you're the one writing the check but that's my $.02
Celcius
02-04-2007, 12:02 PM
I'd say buy what you can afford now instead of waiting. Something new will always be coming out, and the 8800GTX is a good card.
malccy
02-04-2007, 12:03 PM
I'm in same position and although i'm a bit of a ATI fan i'm getting impatient waiting for the R600.
Have just bought a 24" Dell and my x1900xt struggles at times.
ramenchef
02-07-2007, 08:26 PM
Yea, I'd wait to see the leaked info on the R600 and if a revision comes out for the 8800s.
Saibot
02-09-2007, 07:27 AM
Personally, I would wait even if the R600 is nowhere in sight, simply because the almighty 8800GTX actually performs under the highest end DX9 cards due in most part to BETA Drivers. I've actually got a friend and his buddy together, my friend had 2 7900 Overkill's and his buddy had (I'd like to say 2 in SLi, but I honestly don't remember, probably just one) an 8800GTX, and the only thing the 8800 outperformed the 7900s in was Microsoft Office. Plus, even with all the proper cooling, his computer needed to shutdown every now and again so the card could cool off. To me, I just don't see the point in DX10 right now,I'm not hopping on that wagon for another year or so, when Vista get's a service pack or two. I give DX10 and Vista a thumbs down right now.
Right now DX10 is :owned:
Slammin
02-09-2007, 11:53 AM
Personally, I would wait even if the R600 is nowhere in sight, simply because the almighty 8800GTX actually performs under the highest end DX9 cards due in most part to BETA Drivers. I've actually got a friend and his buddy together, my friend had 2 7900 Overkill's and his buddy had (I'd like to say 2 in SLi, but I honestly don't remember, probably just one) an 8800GTX, and the only thing the 8800 outperformed the 7900s in was Microsoft Office. Plus, even with all the proper cooling, his computer needed to shutdown every now and again so the card could cool off. To me, I just don't see the point in DX10 right now,I'm not hopping on that wagon for another year or so, when Vista get's a service pack or two. I give DX10 and Vista a thumbs down right now.
Right now DX10 is :owned:
What a load of crap! :eek:
buffbiff21
02-09-2007, 12:08 PM
What a load of crap! :eek:
Seriously. That is ALL 100% bs.
Just buy the damn 8800 now. You will have X amount of time to play all your favorite games before the R600 even sees the light of day.
that has to be one of the funniest things ive ever read. saibot, are you sure the 8800GTX wasnt on a pentium 3 or something :)
everything you wrote there as been proven wrong in the countless G80 reviews on the net
eXceededgoku
02-09-2007, 01:23 PM
Personally, I would wait even if the R600 is nowhere in sight, simply because the almighty 8800GTX actually performs under the highest end DX9 cards due in most part to BETA Drivers. I've actually got a friend and his buddy together, my friend had 2 7900 Overkill's and his buddy had (I'd like to say 2 in SLi, but I honestly don't remember, probably just one) an 8800GTX, and the only thing the 8800 outperformed the 7900s in was Microsoft Office. Plus, even with all the proper cooling, his computer needed to shutdown every now and again so the card could cool off. To me, I just don't see the point in DX10 right now,I'm not hopping on that wagon for another year or so, when Vista get's a service pack or two. I give DX10 and Vista a thumbs down right now.
Right now DX10 is :owned:
Yea... right :nono:
Anyway, I just see the 8800 as an entry into DX10 and the R600/8900 as the real DX10 high end performers
Slammin
02-09-2007, 02:57 PM
that has to be one of the funniest things ive ever read. saibot, are you sure the 8800GTX wasnt on a pentium 3 or something :)
everything you wrote there as been proven wrong in the countless G80 reviews on the net
I especially liked the part:
"I've actually got a friend and his buddy together, my friend had 2 7900 Overkill's and his buddy had (I'd like to say 2 in SLi, but I honestly don't remember, probably just one) an 8800GTX, and the only thing the 8800 outperformed the 7900s in was Microsoft Office."
Actually, not sure which part of that is funniest - the "I've actually got a friend and his buddy together", or the part where they played Microsoft Office! Not sure I'd want to be present during either of those events.
Then again, I don't think I've ever seen a 7900 Overkill anywhere either, so it is quite possible this could be some top secret answer to the R600. Hard to say....
shogo_ca
02-09-2007, 07:27 PM
I especially liked the part:
"I've actually got a friend and his buddy together, my friend had 2 7900 Overkill's and his buddy had (I'd like to say 2 in SLi, but I honestly don't remember, probably just one) an 8800GTX, and the only thing the 8800 outperformed the 7900s in was Microsoft Office."
Actually, not sure which part of that is funniest - the "I've actually got a friend and his buddy together", or the part where they played Microsoft Office! Not sure I'd want to be present during either of those events.
Then again, I don't think I've ever seen a 7900 Overkill anywhere either, so it is quite possible this could be some top secret answer to the R600. Hard to say....
Im not the kind of people that laught easily just by reading stuff on this forum but i had to tell you that this one made me laugh ahah
"Not sure I'd want to be present during either of those events."
mr_knowitall15
02-09-2007, 08:00 PM
I say wait and see, its what im doing. However R600 stacks up agaisnt the 8800, you can bet nvidia will release an 8900 series like they did with the 7xxx series. Either way, competition should lower prices.
squilliam
02-09-2007, 08:11 PM
Here's for hoping on a $350 GTX price. XD
Anemone
02-10-2007, 07:00 AM
I say wait and see, its what im doing. However R600 stacks up agaisnt the 8800, you can bet nvidia will release an 8900 series like they did with the 7xxx series. Either way, competition should lower prices.
Exactly. 8900 on 65nm with GDDR4 and things would be better. Competition will bring the pricing closer to sanity. To me that's worth waiting a month or two. That's not forever. We aren't talking waiting a year or whatnot. And moreover, if you don't want cutting edge 8900/600 the 88's will get mighty cheap when those two are competing head to head. I can't think of a game I "need" a 8800 for now, that I wouldn't be willing to wait 60 days to get that next gen card.
Of course people's thoughts will vary on this topic. And I'd agree if the wait were 8-10mo, there would be no point.
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