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IFMU
01-30-2007, 12:57 PM
A couple of days ago I was trying to swap out parts on my PC.
After getting it back up and a fresh OS install my raid 0 array wasnt working. Again, after looking at it and inspecting the setup and all that I came to realize that 1 of the drives went bad. Nice... another fracking drive dead.
Great, fine whatever... start the machine, ANOTHER drive turns up dead...
140gigs worth of drive space in the time it takes to start a blasted PC.

Which, got me to thinking....

I have HORRID luck with drives. All brands, all kinds of sizes, IDE AND SCSI... but no sata, never owned one. I just seem to kill them somehow. Must be really hard on them or something because by a rough figure, I think I've killed off close to 75% of all of my drives. I dont treat them any worse than PCI/agp cards and I rarely kill those off.

So, I was curious if its just me, or if others have the same problem.
SO.. a POLL~! LoL

nn_step
01-30-2007, 01:00 PM
thus far I have only lost 3 drives and they were all Maxtor desktop series. (my Atlas drives just don't seem to want to die)

lionel57000
01-30-2007, 01:04 PM
on all my drives ( around 5 tb at house) , i lost 2 raptor 74 and 3 maxtor 250 in 3 years

ibby
01-30-2007, 01:29 PM
Ive lost the most Wester Digital drives.
I would count 10 atleast.

I stopped useing WD about 6 years ago.
I lost a Maxtor line 3 yesterday, with 1/2TB of data.

I have managed to get most of my data back. - I will help you data recovery ;)

IFMU
01-30-2007, 01:32 PM
Ive lost the most Wester Digital drives.
I would count 10 atleast.

I stopped useing WD about 6 years ago.
I lost a Maxtor line 3 yesterday, with 1/2TB of data.

I have managed to get most of my data back. - I will help you data recovery ;)
Thanks but not really needed. Most of the data wasnt really NEEDED data... just stuff that I would have liked to have not lost. Nothing MAJOR.. can get all back, just take a bit of time.
Frustrating more than anything, anything worth much has been backed up.

nn_step
01-30-2007, 01:33 PM
Thanks but not really needed. Most of the data wasnt really NEEDED data... just stuff that I would have liked to have not lost. Nothing MAJOR.. can get all back, just take a bit of time.
Frustrating more than anything, anything worth much has been backed up.
raid 6 with 4 drives, you'll have to lose 3/4 drives to actually lose the data on it ;)

ibby
01-30-2007, 01:41 PM
raid 6 with 4 drives, you'll have to lose 3/4 drives to actually lose the data on it ;)

Raid 6 is 3/4 Drives + Hostswaps.(2)

nn_step
01-30-2007, 01:49 PM
Raid 6 is 3/4 Drives + Hostswaps.(2)
no Raid 6 is Dual Distributed Parity stripped array. Which only requires 4 Drives
And you never need hotswaps, you can just add the replacements after it breaks.

syne_24
01-30-2007, 01:53 PM
Maybe I have all the luck in the world but I have never lost one drive. Even the oldest one since 1996, a western digital caviar 30gb still works. As for my raptors, I have been raiding them for 2 years and still going strong.

LuckyNV
01-30-2007, 05:30 PM
Oldest is 1997 1.7GB that still works, since then I've had about 13 drives, all still work, I tend to replace drives before they break I think, more the fact they are too small really (80GBs, 120GB and 160GB got replace) and I have a 500GB 7200.10 coming soon to replace my final 80GB drive

ibby
01-31-2007, 01:06 AM
no Raid 6 is Dual Distributed Parity stripped array. Which only requires 4 Drives
And you never need hotswaps, you can just add the replacements after it breaks.
But a hotswap is used useful if a drive fails over.

Dual Distributed parity stripped, has only one real advantage, it has the reduancy of two drives., so if one dies .. the array lives, 2nd one dies.. it still works.

HungryForHertz
01-31-2007, 05:45 AM
You forgot 0%.

I've had none fail on me.

Drag
01-31-2007, 05:52 AM
i had 0% to, but my friends dell had an broken hdd once and he got a new one from dell

xoqolatl
01-31-2007, 08:12 AM
I have never killed a drive in my life, except one that got it's PCB burnt in the service (one dumb guy plugged my rig into dead PSU and whole rig BURNT (well, the CPU and ram survived :) ), but i replaced the PCB and it worked fine; and except one 360MB drive that worked but I took it apart to see how drives are made :D

IFMU
01-31-2007, 09:37 AM
and except one 360MB drive that worked but I took it apart to see how drives are made :D
I am NOT counting the drives ive killed on purpose... lol, Ive trashed quite a few just because... most of those were under 500MEGS in size though.

Man.. I have even worse luck with drives than I thought... gawd :slapass:

Drag
01-31-2007, 12:03 PM
i'm planning on getting 11 drives in raid5 soon i'll let you know how fast they go bad i doubt they will ever die tough.

saaya
01-31-2007, 01:37 PM
i dont understand the poll... every hdd dies eventually...

i had 4 ibm deskstar hdds that died after around 1 year each
2 samsung hdd that died after 1.5 years each
and a seagate hdd that died after 2 years

IFMU
01-31-2007, 01:53 PM
Granted... Dunno... it might be I hold onto them for too long and they die off. lol

I just seem to have tons of drives die out on me... seems like a bit too soon on most.

nn_step
01-31-2007, 02:01 PM
Granted... Dunno... it might be I hold onto them for too long and they die off. lol

I just seem to have tons of drives die out on me... seems like a bit too soon on most.
the average expected life is just 3-5 years. Hence I strongly believe in backups, remote storage and raid. Things that I need, I keep atleast a dozen copies of just incase.

Tonucci
01-31-2007, 03:07 PM
Hmmm...I never had an drive die on me, the older one has around 10 years and still works. Maybe i dont stress them that much.

crazyea
01-31-2007, 03:21 PM
Never had a drive die on me either. --knock on wood---

SparkyJJO
01-31-2007, 08:08 PM
I've had a few drives die on me. Every one was a WD too :rolleyes:

crazyea
01-31-2007, 08:10 PM
Maybe because I only use Seagate? :)

Tonucci
02-01-2007, 07:21 AM
Maxtors and Samsungs here, never even bad clusters...

Athlonhead
02-01-2007, 08:50 AM
I am only on my second custom built computer and I havent had any problems with my two seagates---knock on wood----.
What I would like to know is-- are the computers with and without failures-- run 24-7 or are turned off.

rick_fx
02-01-2007, 11:22 AM
the average expected life is just 3-5 years. Hence I strongly believe in backups, remote storage and raid. Things that I need, I keep atleast a dozen copies of just incase.

Ain't a dozen copies a little overkill? :p:

OutSider
02-01-2007, 11:50 AM
before 3 days two of my hard drives die...80gb seagate and hitachi 250gb sata now i`m running XP on Fujitsu Siemens 10gb 5400rpm :D

Starscream
02-02-2007, 02:17 PM
only 1 HD died on me ever wich was in my parents PC.
a 40GB maxtor forgot wich model.

in my personel PCs i atm got some 6 HDs in total from WD, Maxtor, Samsung and Hitachi the oldest one of them are 2 years old i think.
often Sell my HDs when im able to replace m with much larger HDs for only a lil money. Sold a bunch of Samsung 160Gbs and WD 80GBs last year.

Stil got 2 old HDs laying around wich should still work flawlessly but havent been ina pc since a year or 3.
a Seagate 2.1GB ad a MAxtor thats around 9Gb i think.
Should put em in a PC and run hdtach :)

nn_step
02-02-2007, 02:28 PM
Ain't a dozen copies a little overkill? :p:
depends on exactly how much that data is worth to you. ;)
for example keeping a copy of home owners insurance outside of your house, isn't required but it certainly is worth its weight in gold if your house burns down. :fact:

jimmyz
02-02-2007, 02:34 PM
never had a drive i bought new die on me. i have replaced a dozen or so for freinds and funny thing is they were all wd drives old 3.2 - 10gig era so it was probably just old age. drives have been getting so cheap these days i seem to buy new ones before the old ones have a chance to die.

Martijn
02-02-2007, 02:46 PM
I have lost 2 Maxtors. 40GB DMax 6 (those suck)

Considering I have over 40 HDs in my house (~1.5TB total, lots of 30GB Quantums), it's not that bad. My Quantums have never wanted to die, though. Heck, I had 2 of them falling off my desk (3 feet) whilest they were running (:eek:) and they're still working like a charm. Never ever had a Quantum failing on me, although they make a d*mn noise :)

otogrim
02-03-2007, 07:35 AM
Hmmm... never really had a hd die on me... and that's why i've stuck with the same brands.. wd and seagate

Drag
02-04-2007, 08:43 AM
Hmmm...I never had an drive die on me, the older one has around 10 years and still works. Maybe i dont stress them that much.
my pc is 5 years old hd didn't die to

Kingcarcas
02-07-2007, 12:46 AM
Let's see
IBM Deskstar-lasted 5 years, replaced by a Seagate now in my backup system
Maxtor- lasted 3 months in my first build and took all my game saves with it.
WD- 4 months old and going strong on the new family pc.
Refurbished Maxtor- Replacement for my gaming rig and is still going, but i make sure to backup my game saves now(why i now have a "backup" system).