Project Grizzly inventor crafts real-world Halo suit for military use

[StyM]

source here (http://http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/15/project-grizzly-inventor-crafts-real-world-halo-suit-for-militar/)

[While it's not likely that you'll encounter the Arbiter on any given day, the slightly off-kilter Project Grizzly inventor has gone out of his way (and possibly his mind) to create what resembles a real-life Halo suit, sporting protection from gunfire and ensuring you an award at Covenant gatherings. Troy Hurtubise created the suit, dubbed Trojan, in hopes of protecting Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan and US soldiers in Iraq, and considering that it has withstood knives, bullets, light explosives, clubs, and even a round from an elephant gun, it sounds like quite the winner. Proclaimed to be the "first ballistic, full exoskeleton body suit of armor," Trojan is crafted from high-impact plastic lined with ceramic bullet protection over ballistic foam, and features nearly endless compartments, morphine / salt containers, knife and gun holsters, emergency lights, a built-in recording device, pepper spray, ingestible transponder for those "last resort" scenarios, and there's even a fresh air system powered by solar panels within the helmet. Mr. Hurtubise claims the 18 kilograms (40 pounds) suit is comfortable enough to make road trips in (yes, he tried it), and if any major military would take him up on it, they could reportedly be produced for "around $2,000 apiece." Now that's a bargain, folk


http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/01/1-14-07-trojansuit.jpg

[nn_step]

anyone wanna play halo? :rolleyes:

[w0mbat]

Haha, then US soldiers will look like a videogame and even a small boy can shoot them.

[yaddam205]

lol, that suit looks retarded.

[HungryForHertz]

Looks retarded... I want one.

[nn_step]

would anyone argue with a face like this?
http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/images/hs/hs1558762_2.jpg?GXHC_gx_session_id_=70e5bcf3d4a50c 45&


As he drove his black pickup in his black getup, other drivers gawked and honked. Just south of Huntsville, he was delighted to be pulled over and gave an apprehensive OPP officer a close-up look at the suit.

Once he established that he could see just fine in his helmet and that the guns attached to his magnetic holsters were just props, Hurtubise was free to continue his trip.
Dangling between the legs, that would be a clock.
lol

[lizardmech]

I wonder what type of rounds it can defeat, even light vehicles struggle with bigger rounds like .50 BMG. It would still be pretty impressive it was resistant to NATO 7.62mm rounds and anything below though.

[HungryForHertz]

I wonder what type of rounds it can defeat, even light vehicles struggle with bigger rounds like .50 BMG. It would still be pretty impressive it was resistant to NATO 7.62mm rounds and anything below though.

I don't know of much that can take a .50 and still look happy. For something truely resistant to .50 (and actually be wearable, so not several CM of steel) you'd be looking at some thing like condensed glass. Which is all very hush hush.

[freeloader]

I've seen this suit up close and personal. It's actually quite impressive.

Yaddam205...would you rather look retarded or look like a dead retard? :D

The suit was recently here in Hamilton, Ontario!

http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/media_archive/jan-11-2007_a.html

[exhausted mule]

Ive seen shows on this guy and although he seems pretty offbeat he has the tenacity that someone needs to be able to pull this stuff off.

with help and funding from the right ppl this guy's ideas could go far. This suit looks rediculous, need some refinement but its exactly what the ground guys need.

I wish all the luck to him and those who might eventually be using a form of this suit.

[Praxis1452]

the suit looks ok. However the helmet and shoes look like crap. Basically patent this off and then sell the patent to the military so they can refine it.

[Vincentvega18]

i'd like to see some kind of military demonstration with this, such as fire and manouvre, which i think would look like a game of pac-man. Nice idea though.

[Order]

That look will certainly gain trust with foreign civilians lol.

[m0da]

how did he sit down for the road trip!?

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

I've seen this suit up close and personal. It's actually quite impressive.

Yaddam205...would you rather look retarded or look like a dead retard? :D

The suit was recently here in Hamilton, Ontario!

http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/media_archive/jan-11-2007_a.html


hey, another guy from hamilton? i used to live there, now i just school there downtown.

[vitaminc]

can i be a pink power ranger?

[J-Mag]

I wonder what type of rounds it can defeat, even light vehicles struggle with bigger rounds like .50 BMG. It would still be pretty impressive it was resistant to NATO 7.62mm rounds and anything below though.

Dragon Skin will take multiple 7.62 rounds and hold up. Plus it is flexible.

http://www.pinnaclearmor.com/body-armor/dragon-skin.php

Some of these security guys in Iraq have field tested it with multiple impacts from AKs
http://www.pinnaclearmor.com/dragon-skin-survivors.php

[vudoodoodoo]

I think the suit in Batman Returns might be more feasible. IMO a light weight, flexible bullet proof suit can be done. Soldiers need something that feels like "second skin", so they can more freely, etc.

[J-Mag]

IMO a light weight, flexible bullet proof suit can be done. Soldiers need something that feels like "second skin", so they can more freely, etc.

It has been done, look at my link above.

Only problem is the cermaic body armor isn't light weight. This version I linked to is made up of a bunch of cermic discs interwoven like scales in layers of kevlar.

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It has been done, look at my link above.

Only problem is the cermaic body armor isn't light weight. This version I linked to is made up of a bunch of cermic discs interwoven like scales in layers of kevlar.
lets be honest here, every solder wants a something as thin as a handkerchief that stops a howitzer

[Cobalt]

The problem with dragon skin is that it isn't omni directional in its defence. Low angle shots can get between the disks easily so unless you only intend to face fire from directly in front of you is isn't much use, unlike ceramic plates which are actually more effective at extreme angles.

[J-Mag]

The problem with dragon skin is that it isn't omni directional in its defence. Low angle shots can get between the disks easily so unless you only intend to face fire from directly in front of you is isn't much use, unlike ceramic plates which are actually more effective at extreme angles.

Thats a good point but you aren't fighting midgets at point blank range, either...

I am willing to bet most hits are perpendicular. Sure there may be occasions where you are firing from a roof down on an enemy, but then you have the building protecting the low angles.

[P_1]

This technology would probably be better(once they can mass produce nanomaterials like this for cheap...): http://www.physorg.com/news8947.html
"The material withstood the shock pressures generated by the impacts of up to 250 tons per square centimeter. This is approximately equivalent to dropping four diesel locomotives onto an area the size of one’s fingernail. During the test the material proved to be so strong that after the impact the samples remained essentially identical compared to the original material."

[aintz]

i can defeat him with a bazooka

[Revv23]

Thats a good point but you aren't fighting midgets at point blank range, either...

I am willing to bet most hits are perpendicular. Sure there may be occasions where you are firing from a roof down on an enemy, but then you have the building protecting the low angles.


what about when prone?


anyways, this stuff looks pretty cool... would be nice if it could save some lives.

[eXceededgoku]

anyone think it looks more like Gears of War armor??

[Cobalt]

Its not just from below that the problems occurred. Thats why it was rejected from US army testing. Pinnacle made a big hooha about the tests being unfair but the reality was that overall ceramic plates are more effective.

There were some suggestions that this armour could be improved with the use of ballistic liquids (nanotech) that has been recently developed, although that would push the cost up somewhat. The current model of the armour leave the joints unprotected for ease of movement.

[jbizzler]

Do you need to go through insane surgeries to get the reflexes, strength, and intellect to use this? And does it include an AI hypertransport link to your cerebrix?

[Scimitar]

I wonder what type of rounds it can defeat, even light vehicles struggle with bigger rounds like .50 BMG. It would still be pretty impressive it was resistant to NATO 7.62mm rounds and anything below though.

Most body armor that consists of ceramic plate reinforced Kevlar layers can defeat standard AK47 7.62mm or M16 5.56mm rounds, even at point blank range. There are certain types of armor piercing rounds that use non mushrooming penetrators that have had success against this body armor though. I seriously doubt that it can stop a .50BMG round from a sniper rifle, even at range. Another good test would be armor piercing rifle rounds like fired from a .223, .243, or 30-06, or eq.

It would be interesting to see how this plastic reinforced with ceramic does compared to Kevlar reinforced with ceramic. I'm going to be a skeptic and say it does worse until it's proven better. Just my gut instinct.

[J-Mag]

Its not just from below that the problems occurred. Thats why it was rejected from US army testing. Pinnacle made a big hooha about the tests being unfair but the reality was that overall ceramic plates are more effective.

There were some suggestions that this armour could be improved with the use of ballistic liquids (nanotech) that has been recently developed, although that would push the cost up somewhat. The current model of the armour leave the joints unprotected for ease of movement.

Do you have any links for results of the US military testing?

Ceramic plates don't protect the same area usually only the front and back torso and even then only partially. Also, I thought plates can't take multiple hits because they fracture (the discs should fracture too, but there are more of them)...

[P_1]

Guys take a look at this....

http://www.physorg.com/news8947.html

[nn_step]

actually the deal with Kevlar isn't that it can't stop the bullets. It has more to do with "blunt trauma" from the gun shots, that actually causes death. (even though it doesn't even go through the armor)

[J-Mag]

actually the deal with Kevlar isn't that it can't stop the bullets. It has more to do with "blunt trauma" from the gun shots, that actually causes death. (even though it doesn't even go through the armor)

Maybe when you are refering to pistol cartridges. I don't think there are kevlar only body armors that stop 5.56 or 7.62 rifle rounds.

Guys take a look at this....

http://www.physorg.com/news8947.html

That is pretty awesome, but looks cost prohibitive.

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http://science.howstuffworks.com/body-armor2.htm
umm yeah..

the deal with flexible Armor is that you have to worry about blunt trauma and the associated injuries and death.
The main problem with solid armor is the lack of mobility and difficulty of movement

[J-Mag]

http://science.howstuffworks.com/body-armor2.htm
umm yeah..

the deal with flexible Armor is that you have to worry about blunt trauma and the associated injuries and death.
The main problem with solid armor is the lack of mobility and difficulty of movement


umm no..

That link doesn't prove that kevlar only body armor can stop rifle penetration.

[nn_step]

umm no..

That link doesn't prove that kevlar only body armor can stop rifle penetration.
enough tissue paper can stop a Nuke :stick:
It is just a matter of layers :fact:

[J-Mag]

enough tissue paper can stop a Nuke :stick:
It is just a matter of layers :fact:

What a retarded comment. Going hypothetical because you are wrong?

Here is a test where they fired a .223 round at THREE vests put over each other:
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot24_4.htm

The .223 rifle round went through all three vests when not hitting the shockplate section.

[XS Janus]

Do I need Vista and DX10 to run in this suit?

[w0mbat]

enough tissue paper can stop a Nuke :stick:
It is just a matter of layers :fact:

Even a single layer of paper can stop the worst radiation from a nuke.

[Bergo]

Even a single layer of paper can stop the worst radiation from a nuke.

umm... no

try a couple feet of lead....

[topaimz]

Just carry around one of those Kevlar Textbooks some
political dude in the US proposed :D

[Timmay]

Make a gearbox out of that stuff... Could do burnouts all damn day.

[[XC] leviathan18]

just put a soldier inside an abraham problem solved he can move and he is protected from rifle fire

[أشرف]

Hmm, that's new version of the suit. The suit used to made for the TV show - RoboCop.

[Vice]

It's not a matter of if the suit looks retarded or not, its a matter of if it can withstand the force of bullets and such.

Its like, I would be wearing a hot dog suit that could stop a .50 caliber bullet, but I look like a hot dog..

So you choose the skimpy kevlar vest because it looks "cooler", and you get blown to bits.

Good job.

[arisythila]

http://rvb.roosterteeth.com/home.php

all I got to say.

~Mike

[Poodle]

These suits might be good for soldiers who might get hit by suicide bombers. For special ops and Navy Seals, A biological suits constructed from a coctail of DNA would be great but is probably 50 years away. Imagine a 100% self suficent suit with geels and a squid type of camoflage with the armour of a Tiger shark. Just add water and sunshine like you would for a plant.

[LOE]

creating a 100% safe suit would make it very heavy, probably about 200 kilos

this is a weight very few people can lift, and no one can really be mobile with

so the suit must also assist movement, something I don't think will be possible the next 10 years

anyway this suit looks creepy :) to me, a person that uset to play alot of games and watch sci fi movies.

I bet an average Afgani person could :banana::banana::banana::banana: himself easily by the look of this thing. I have another idea for this baby - make a voice changing device, so people who wear it sound like Orcs.

[mrlobber]

I have another idea for this baby - make a voice changing device, so people who wear it sound like Orcs.

:banana: :lol:

I personally find such "Robocop suits" as well as the overall trend of the military forces trying to improve the weapons and combat vehicles to the level that eventually they'd be fighting only with remotely controlled robots (how tragicomic actually does that sound - "war without sacrifices"?) kinda funny... I mean, resembling "toys" used by children to play wargames, in this case just played by adult idiots on real battlefields...

[Kingcarcas]

I'm just curious what war it will be used in..

[LOE]

if robots fight instead of people I see pro gaming as a very nice profession

the best soldiers would be kids with fat glasses and nerdy looking faces :)

Russian PRO QUAKERS that are controlled form satelite by China starcrafters

spooky

[KoHaN69]

hey guys, what's a ingestible transponder :confused: ?

[nn_step]

hey guys, what's a ingestible transponder :confused: ?
it is a homing beacon that you consume, thus someone can track you much easier.

[DTU_XaVier]

I say, put this, or something similar (improved) into production right away, save some lives, and at all costs keep it off the black market... If it gets there, we're back to square one...

Putting this suit into production might be cheaper for the UN-countries than keeping sending troops to Iraq/Afghanistan... Get 100,000 of these suits to Iraq, and the death-rate for UN-soldiers will drop dramatically...

Best Regards :toast:

[Movieman]

Perfect for driving in Massachusetts...or Florida!:D

[Vincentvega18]

I say, put this, or something similar (improved) into production right away, save some lives, and at all costs keep it off the black market... If it gets there, we're back to square one...

Putting this suit into production might be cheaper for the UN-countries than keeping sending troops to Iraq/Afghanistan... Get 100,000 of these suits to Iraq, and the death-rate for UN-soldiers will drop dramatically...

Best Regards :toast:
That would be if UN troops were there ;)
Look at the most common cause of deaths in iraq at the moment, its ied's and rpg fire, small arms fire accounts for a lot of casualties, but deaths much less.

[szukalski]

I say deck out whole squads with these and make their voices uniform.
Our stormtroopers will be faceless, nameless, and blameless.

"Yes miss, what did the soldier look like who ravaged your family?"
"Oh yes, the one who looks like them all... don't worry, we'll find him.."

[HungryForHertz]

Even a single layer of paper can stop the worst radiation from a nuke.

lmfao. Reaction in a nuke is the same reaction that happens in a reactor at a nuclear power plant and they are surrounded with a fair few foot of concrete and lead (I would know, I've been to a plant). The radiation kills more people than the explosion + shockwave. People in Japan today are still suffering the after effects of the fall out.

Gamma radiation is NOT your friend.

[nn_step]

lmfao. Reaction in a nuke is the same reaction that happens in a reactor at a nuclear power plant and they are surrounded with a fair few foot of concrete and lead (I would know, I've been to a plant). The radiation kills more people than the explosion + shockwave. People in Japan today are still suffering the after effects of the fall out.

Gamma radiation is NOT your friend.
the most destructive radiation is Alpha radiation ;)

[w0mbat]

umm... no

try a couple feet of lead....

Of cause it can. Think again :slap:

[DTU_XaVier]

That would be if UN troops were there ;)
Look at the most common cause of deaths in iraq at the moment, its ied's and rpg fire, small arms fire accounts for a lot of casualties, but deaths much less.
Well, coalition forces then...
I'm on to you... you want me to get a ban... shhhhh!

Best Regards :toast:

[phelan1777]

Elementals from Battletech and the REAL Starship Troopers Suits.

Now that is some serious Suits, POWER ARMOR BABY!

http://www.armorcast.com/battletech/picture/2670S.jpg

http://www.armorcast.com/battletech/picture/spiritmgl.jpg

[DTU_XaVier]

I'm impressed nobody mentioned Warhammer 40k yet :p:
http://www.nuklearpower.com/images/space_marine.jpg
:D

Best Regards :toast:

[pitata]

lmfao. Reaction in a nuke is the same reaction that happens in a reactor at a nuclear power plant and they are surrounded with a fair few foot of concrete and lead (I would know, I've been to a plant). The radiation kills more people than the explosion + shockwave. People in Japan today are still suffering the after effects of the fall out.

Gamma radiation is NOT your friend.

You've been to a nuclear plant so you should know that they use uranium, unless its a MOX reactor where you mix in a small percentage of plutonim. They are still not very common.

In nuclear weapons plutonium (or in some cases uranium) is used. They both give of gamma-radiation. But the main concern is the fallout as it consists mostly of alfa particles which are very harmfull if it comes inside the body with water or food. There are ways to increase the fallout by "salting" the bomb by surrounding it with cobalt or gold.

There are a couple of other ionizing radiation from a A/H-bomb such as induced radiation caused by neutron radiation causing random materials surrounding the explosion to become radioactive for a short while.

Gamma radiation is electromagnetic so it's "instant".

Sorry bout the rant but the the hour is late and i should be sleeping. :P