Intel chip ?

[[cTx]SGT.Viper]

What chip should i get? I am poor and need a good Intel chip that wants to run like a supper machine. Now that Intel is the best processor. Please help me choose the right processor for my new build? Thanks,
[cTx]SGT.Viper

[SaFrOuT]

which cpu are u planning to buy and i am sure this thread better be moved to the Intel support section

[[cTx]SGT.Viper]

No i was trying to get feedback from fellow Gamers.
Thanks,
[cTx]SGT.Viper

[SaFrOuT]

and u don't want to get that feedback anymore ?

[mr_knowitall15]

why dont you just answer his question and get it done with, instead of posting crap about it being the wrong forum?
To answer the question, the lower end Core 2s should fit your bill quite nicely. The E6300 or 6400 should be right up your alley. The OC like hell if you want to squeeze more out of it. Asus P5B Deluxe is the obvious choice for purely OCing, but as a gamer im sure you arent going to be OCing to the max, and that dual video card capability may be a concern. Given that id reccomend a decent 680i board, or wait until the cheaper, pretty much equally performing 650i comes out. Also if you can wait a little more, Core 2 prices are supposed to fall, meaning you can either get a better chip for a similar price, of get the same lower end chip for even cheaper.
The way i see it, if you were to order something now, you could get a 6300 or 6400 for $192 or $221 respectivly, plus the good (from what ive seen already) Asus p5n-e 650i board for $150 bucks. You can get some decent ddr2 2 gig sets for around 200 bucks nowadays, as long as you stay away from higher end stuff. (which you may as well if your not gonna be doing serious OCin. Still, i would not get value ram either)

[SaFrOuT]

why dont you just answer his question and get it done with, instead of posting crap about it being the wrong forum?
To answer the question, the lower end Core 2s should fit your bill quite nicely. The E6300 or 6400 should be right up your alley. The OC like hell if you want to squeeze more out of it. Asus P5B Deluxe is the obvious choice for purely OCing, but as a gamer im sure you arent going to be OCing to the max, and that dual video card capability may be a concern. Given that id reccomend a decent 680i board, or wait until the cheaper, pretty much equally performing 650i comes out. Also if you can wait a little more, Core 2 prices are supposed to fall, meaning you can either get a better chip for a similar price, of get the same lower end chip for even cheaper.
The way i see it, if you were to order something now, you could get a 6300 or 6400 for $192 or $221 respectivly, plus the good (from what ive seen already) Asus p5n-e 650i board for $150 bucks. You can get some decent ddr2 2 gig sets for around 200 bucks nowadays, as long as you stay away from higher end stuff. (which you may as well if your not gonna be doing serious OCin. Still, i would not get value ram either)

didn't mean to say crap

and i think it is not a nice way to say it, beside i asked him for more info so we can tell him the best chip for his budget

or the best answer will be getting a QX6700 with a P5B Deluxe since the 680i and 650i is not a good overclockers at all

again sorry for the thread owner i just wanted him to get mroe help instead of the ZERO replies he got beside mine

and again I don't like ur waying of talking mr_knowitall15 and i think u need ot behave more, since i and i am sure no one else won't accept such a comment on his trial to help a member

[[cTx]SGT.Viper]

No overclocking i just want this machine to go. I hit on button and i want to go and go smooth and run fast with aw some graphics and no lag from machine. The board is 680i. Thanks for your help and please be nice to each other. Once again thanks for all your help
Thanks,
[cTx]SGT.Viper

[SaFrOuT]

how much are u willing to pay

IMHO wait for the E4300 will be a good choice for ur mobo since it doesn't need very high fsb to overclock and will be cheap
but also since u have a very expensive mobo i think u can afford a higher cpu, in this case i think the E6600 is a very good deal with its 9x mutli

[mr_knowitall15]

didn't mean to say crap

and i think it is not a nice way to say it, beside i asked him for more info so we can tell him the best chip for his budget

or the best answer will be getting a QX6700 with a P5B Deluxe since the 680i and 650i is not a good overclockers at all

again sorry for the thread owner i just wanted him to get mroe help instead of the ZERO replies he got beside mine

and again I don't like ur waying of talking mr_knowitall15 and i think u need ot behave more, since i and i am sure no one else won't accept such a comment on his trial to help a member
whoa dude, dont take it so personally. I just get sick of people on these forums that tell the person to search, or use google, or post in the 'right' sub forum, rather than helping him out, thats all.
Back on track...
he said he was poor, so i assume he wants a budget chip. that alone eliminates the Q6700. Ad the fact that games hardly take advantage of dual core, and the only software that currently benefit from quad core besides benches are things like 3d rendering, and maybe video editing.
As for since the 680i and 650i is not a good overclockers at all tell that to my 50% on air OC, and some people like these
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=122339
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=130184
Just the facts my friend.
Seeing as how the P5N-E and P5B-Dlx are really closely priced, id say the deciding factor should be whether you want SLI capability or not.

[SaFrOuT]

my friend the 680i is a good mobo for cpu with large multi like E6700 or more and only if u r planning to do SLI , other than that, the P5B DEluxe has proven to be the best mobo for getting the maximum fsb out of ur cpu which is the best and must be the first choice for members planning to get cheap C2D cpu with low multi


cause it is very hard to get 400fsb or pass it with this chipset so with a cheap cpu like a E6300 or E6400 with low multi that 400fsb wall ( if he can even reach it ) is not a good idea

also how is he poor and he got the most expensive mobo between the C2D mobo

this means that his choice was not the best in the first place

also he said help me choosing the best system for my new build so my repl started with asking about the specs of his system cause i thought he meant by chip the mobo

and then i suggestted in a very POLIT way to move his thread to teh place where he will get the best help
as u can see no one is replying to his thread now cause it is in the WRONG section and that is why sections was created in the first place

and u can't compare rude replies like search google or search the forum to my suggestion to follow the forum RULES for only ONE reason which is " HE WILL GET BETTER HELP IN THE CORRECT SECTION )

so again saying that my advise was crap just that i am trying to following the forum rules is still a very rude thing to do and u should expect me taking it so personally

[mr_knowitall15]

oh well. I think all he needed was advise on a cheaper Intel chip, whcih he got. He said no OCing, so i assume he chose on SLI alone. Its a great board, but expensive. Im sure youll be really happy with this new setup :woot:

[[cTx]Philosophy]

If I remember Viper has 7800GTX SLI, for this he would need the 680i, and a nice cheap quad qould hold him over for a good while..

Newegg has the 6600 quad but the prices are a bit inflated at the moment, prices are expected to come down in the next few months, So if your looking for a good investment that will last you a while id say 680i and a nice kents, the 6600 should suffice since you plan not to overclock it, im sure once you get it and see the potential it has your mind will change though..


That was on the expensive side, you alternatively do what I did, get a DS3 or what Im looking for now P5B dlx and a 6300 or 6400 Id recomend the 6400 because of the 8 multi, clocks balls out and costs aroud 400ish.. No support for SLI with this setup though

[Movieman]

SGT.Viper']No overclocking i just want this machine to go. I hit on button and i want to go and go smooth and run fast with aw some graphics and no lag from machine. The board is 680i. Thanks for your help and please be nice to each other. Once again thanks for all your help
Thanks,
[cTx]SGT.Viper
easiest way to make these decisions is first to decide what you want to spend.
Then what do you need to but that you can't scrounge from somewhere
Do you have a case,psu,dvdrw,hard drives etc that you can put into this build?
Give us that info and then we can bash each other silly telling you what each of us would build..:D

[[XC] mysticmerlin]

Philosophy I am all with you on the setup but I have the Biostar Tforce mobo and Gskill HZ ram. Same video card and cpu. Same clocks. I would not hesitate recommending the same set up to anyone not on SLI. Either with a DS3 or Tforce and just wait out the kentsfield price drops to upgrade.
Plays BF2 at max smooth as silk :D

[[XC] mysticmerlin]

easiest way to make these decisions is first to decide what you want to spend.
Then what do you need to but that you can't scrounge from somewhere
Do you have a case,psu,dvdrw,hard drives etc that you can put into this build?
Give us that info and then we can bash each other silly telling you what each of us would build..:D

Hey what are you doing in the game section old man :stick: sry had too. :slapass:

[[cTx]SGT.Viper]

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[Movieman]

SGT.Viper']You guys should visit us more hear!
We may have some ideas to share..Not me but these guys really got their stuff together..
I'll design you rock solid stable, they'll make you a rocketship that will need hawsers to hold it down!:D

[-Acid-]

you forgot the snow they produce too dave

everyone loves the snow :P

[[cTx]Philosophy]

When you get a chance Viper post some of the hardware your using that might be handed over to this rig, unless your planning on totally starting over fresh, and the amount of cash your looking to spend, then it will be easier to accurately give hardware tips..

[nn_step]

well assuming limited to ZERO overclocking and the ideal to get the most of a limited budget, an AMD setup would be a far better value. unless you just love playing games at 640*480

[[cTx]SGT.Viper]

I plan to build from scratch. I am getting the 680I given to me. Not sure exactly what card i am getting for free. It will probably be something newer then my 7800 gtx 256 meg cards. Not sure if i will be given dual cards or not but plan to upgrade to sli any way when I get the money.

Thanks,
[cTx]SGT.Viper

[IFMU]

Come on guys, lets keep it clean here aight?

And hurry up and upgrade Viper, I need an upgrade! LoL

[HeadShotWI]

Hey Vip if you are planning on getting SLI at some point and overclocking is out of the question then make sure you plunk down at least enough money to get a good enough chip so that you are not bottlenecked on the processor end.

We can't really make any recommendations unless you can confirm what graphics card solution you are going with. And if we say get an e6700 and then you pull 2 x 8800GTs your going to be bottlenecked on the CPU side.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

Come on Viper. No overclocking? These C2D chips are so easy to OC.

I'd say get an E6400 and OC to 3ghz, as that could probably be done on or near stock volts.

And why does Buster keep on editing your posts. lol

[[cTx]SGT.Viper]

Buster is my Chief Editor. As for card, I do not no what I am getting.

[[cTx]Philosophy]

I take it this is an EVGA hookup?

[serialk11r]

double 8800gtx bottlenecked by e6700? Really? I never knew it was that bad. I'm a wimp at overclocking but I still got 500MHz lol:D with a sh*t board. I keep thinking my mobo/processor is gonna explode when I overclock, but I still got 2.66GHz, and it wasn't bad at all! Well now my NB is f***ed so it won't make 300FSB even. I think the C2Ds are so fast bottlenecking isn't that big of an issue really.

[mr_knowitall15]

well assuming limited to ZERO overclocking and the ideal to get the most of a limited budget, an AMD setup would be a far better value. unless you just love playing games at 640*480
how do you figure? I mean you could save a bit of money on a Processor maybe, but you have less performance for sure, its been proven here.
Not being a fanboy, just stating a fact.:fact:

[nn_step]

how do you figure? I mean you could save a bit of money on a Processor maybe, but you have less performance for sure, its been proven here.
Not being a fanboy, just stating a fact.:fact:
lets see, you can get an AMD SLi or Crossfire board for under $100
(you can't do that with intel)
Processors matter far less than GPUs as screen size and graphics details are added.
Oh and you can build an AMD base for under $115 ($165 for dual core)
Right now any AM2 processor can support 8GB of Ram, though the same can't be said for all Intel boards

[agenda2005]

lets see, you can get an AMD SLi or Crossfire board for under $100
(you can't do that with intel)
Processors matter far less than GPUs as screen size and graphics details are added.
Oh and you can build an AMD base for under $115 ($165 for dual core)
Right now any AM2 processor can support 8GB of Ram, though the same can't be said for all Intel boards

The title says INTEL CHIP.

I don't know why you are bringing AMD alternative into this thread.

It's not your bussiness if he can get an AMD chip for zero dollar. Stay on topic and don't pollute the whole disscussion.

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

because he raises the very important fact for the budget-minded shopper, which states that at stock clocks, a 3800x2 versus an e6300 will split fairly evenly down the line, making the more affordable 3800x2 rig much more sensible. The only big difference is that 3800x2s cant all hit 3.5 ghz+ easily.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

But he's getting a free 680i mobo, so that really takes AMD out of the equation

[serialk11r]

e6300/6400, is best value. They really aren't that slow, at stock speeds. When gaming driving up the clocks doesn't do much unless you have some super sh*tty processor. But with a 680i board all he has to do is go to FSB and type in "1600" and enter then it'll have leet speed lol. Well not as leet as many people here would like, but leet enough, that he won't get any bottlenecks. 400fsb is all I would ever go anyways (i'm chicken):D