E6600 CPU-Z@5134MHz Spi1M@9.985s & Spi32M@10m24.672s under BEFORE's cascade

[before]

[System]

E6600 L627B156 OEM
Biostar P965 TForce Deluxe bios 914 Rebels Heaven mod (Vcore, Vdroop, Vdimm mods)
Super Talent PC2-5300 2*512MB
Windows 2k3 Server (tweaked)
Western Digital IDE 80Gb
2-Stager @ -100C unloaded

That's the second time I've got the opportunity of cascading a chip from watercooling.fr. The first E6600 (same stepping as the actual one) clocked up to 4926MHz suicide with only a single core enable.

At that time, I was using a Team Xtreem memory kit and after today's results I think the matter was there. In fact, previous chip was expected to be a better clocker thanks to its excellent performance under watercooling... Nevermind! :rolleyes:

So guys, look at that FSB... The Biostar TForce P965 is without doubt an incredible motherboard. :slobber:

[Suicide CPU-Z]

Vcore = 1.92V
Vdimm = 2.53V
Vmch / ich = 1.82V

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8043/e6600cpuz5229mhzwcfrhv4.png

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=155620


Super Pi 1M @5051MHz

Vcore = 1.92V
Vdimm = 2.53V
Vmch / ich = 1.82V

http://beforeoverclock.com/images/E6600SPI1M@9,985.png


Super Pi 2M @5030MHz

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6430/e6600spi2m25016rc4.png


Super Pi 16M @4974MHz

Vdimm = 2.53V

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9767/e6600spi16m4m43109smc3.png


Super Pi 32M @4901MHz

Vdimm = 2.53V

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/371/e6600spi32m10m21797sbq8.png

Too bad that MBM5 fails to report the temperature while running that cold (also note the CPU clock isn't updated).

I would like to thank Quent for the board and watercooling.fr for the chip.

Thx for reading.

:toast:

[quent]

Lol, sounds like this mobo was an pretty good investment :toast:

[Misko]

Great result! Do u know Superpi temps of cpu? And one thing is strange to me s shot is much greater than spi shot, so I'm thinking the power unit is not so good on Biostar or I'm wrong? :toast:

[Delex]

Yeaaah !!! Very good job! Nice CPU :) :woot:

Congrats!

[hey]

its very good for c1 revision Biostar P965 ..:toast:

[before]

Thx guys! :toast:

@Misko82: I don't know the Spi temps of the CPU, but evap temp was -90C idle to -87C load during Spi. Speedfan temp is generous :D

The difference between Suicide and Spi isn't that significant here because RAM timings aren't the same and I didn't really looked for the max benchable.

[Viss]

Very nice again Before :toast: I cannot get mbm with the 2 core readings working under 0 at any temp i tried. The data file in the link only shows 1 core but at least temp is same as with speedfan for me. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1804941&postcount=1

[Gautam]

Lol, sounds like this mobo was an pretty good investment :toast:
No kidding, you must have a lucky touch. :D

Actually, I think that 200MHz between max pi and suicide shot is about normal.

Fast as always my friend. :D

[T07N]

The biostar is better than its foxconn competition. I have no idea why people recommend foxconn over the biostar.

[Patriote]

Woaw! Bravo! :toast:

Incroyable! :slobber:

[dinos22]

Woaw! Bravo! :toast:

Incroyable! :slobber:
i don't know what that means but ditto :D

i love your cooling rigs before.... not to mention results you get with them.....you're a legend man :toast:

[before]

Thx mates! ;)

@Gautam: :) actually; I think the time could be improved a little because I've forgotten to kill MBM5 (that's why CPU clock isn't updated on dashboard) and some timings might be tightened. Did you received the PM? I think more than ever now an ad-oc scheme would be great based on what I've shared with you.

@T07N: yea you're right!

@dinos22: that's too much for me buddy... Thank you! But I'm not a legend... :)

[dinos22]

Thx mates! ;)

@Gautam: :) actually; I think the time could be improved a little because I've forgotten to kill MBM5 (that's why CPU clock isn't updated on dashboard) and some timings might be tightened. Did you received the PM? I think more than ever now an ad-oc scheme would be great based on what I've shared with you.

@T07N: yea you're right!

@dinos22: that's too much for me buddy... Thank you! But I'm not a legend... :)
in Australia you have to die first to become a true legend lol :) j/k

[Blknoel]

On par with (if not better than) even some X6800 with unlocked multis, your 6600 is a very nice chip.

And the modded Biostar is indeed a star. ^^

[ncsa]

Once again a very nice result .. well done. :D

[[cTx]Philosophy]

very nice indead, next try push for sub 10 spi times :)

[anarinsk]

Really amazing chip you have. To sub 10 1M superpi! :)

[Misko]

Actually, I think that 200MHz between max pi and suicide shot is about normal.


Not for me, max ss http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=145862
max Spi
http://www.benchmark.co.yu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18705&d=1166094197

Biostar C2, all on air.

[before]

Thx guys! :)

This motherboard is great but really strange... may be there is a matter of strap behind that history.

- I can boot at 570FSB*9 (5130MHz) but it won't post, at 560FSB*9 (5040MHz) but windows gets bugged (I mean I can't start a single program instead of task manager), at 550FSB*9 (4950MHz) but windows is very unstable.

- I can boot at 537FSB*9 (4833MHz) but it won't post... and 500FSB*9 (4500MHz) isn't bootable at all... WTF?

:)

[DaCoSa]

Congrats Before!!
Nice 6600! I interested.
regards master:banana:

[Cupcake]

Thx guys! :)

This motherboard is great but really strange... may be there is a matter of strap behind that history.

- I can boot at 570FSB*9 (5130MHz) but it won't post, at 560FSB*9 (5040MHz) but windows gets bugged (I mean I can't start a single program instead of task manager), at 550FSB*9 (4950MHz) but windows is very unstable.

- I can boot at 537FSB*9 (4833MHz) but it won't post... and 500FSB*9 (4500MHz) isn't bootable at all... WTF?

:)

wow thats really odd:confused:

I may just have to get one of those boards and test it out myself :woot:

[Boble76]

Nice CPU you have, once again Man!! :slobber:
may be there really is a matter of strap behind that history... I think. :confused:

[skirms_fr]

Thx guys! :)

This motherboard is great but really strange... may be there is a matter of strap behind that history.

- I can boot at 570FSB*9 (5130MHz) but it won't post, at 560FSB*9 (5040MHz) but windows gets bugged (I mean I can't start a single program instead of task manager), at 550FSB*9 (4950MHz) but windows is very unstable.

- I can boot at 537FSB*9 (4833MHz) but it won't post... and 500FSB*9 (4500MHz) isn't bootable at all... WTF?

:)

very strange

maybe a ram problem ? your super tulipe is faded :D

dont think it s temperature's problem
and not the cpu too

[before]

@DaCoSa: I've recieved your PM buddy, I'll reply ASAP. ;)

@boble76: Thank you mate! (but once again, it isn't my CPU... :D )

@skirms: May be? I don't know, actually it looks like a matter of compatibility between memory and motherboard. I mean it seems me the problem isn't that significant while setting only CAS4 into the bios and leaving the remaining to Auto. The motherboard is making the memory booting with 4-6-6-16 which is very odd...

It doesn't matter; but sub-10s looks one more time really difficult to achieve because of unstability within the 5050-5100MHz range... :(

[Misko]

Thx guys! :)

This motherboard is great but really strange... may be there is a matter of strap behind that history.

- I can boot at 570FSB*9 (5130MHz) but it won't post, at 560FSB*9 (5040MHz) but windows gets bugged (I mean I can't start a single program instead of task manager), at 550FSB*9 (4950MHz) but windows is very unstable.

- I can boot at 537FSB*9 (4833MHz) but it won't post... and 500FSB*9 (4500MHz) isn't bootable at all... WTF?

:)

Welcome to the Biostar world :), for me it is best to boot with 480, and then oc via clckgen, when I lower multi in bios I can't go as much on max multi wtf? Also board is working very very strange with ram dividers, only 1:1 is working ok for me (memory is micron d9 gmh, team xtreem) and one more thing I notice last BIOS is not user friendly when u oc pci frq, i set in bios 125 and no more hdd, with 914 i could set 200mhz in bios for pci-e, of course using pci old matrox 4mb card, so new bios doesn't lock pci bus. And I almost forgot, sata is better to overclock then ide, ide is on some via based chip, so I thought maybe it would act like pci card, but no sata is better (more fsb until it hangs) i try to disable via ide in bios but then I have no boot? :) board is crazy

[Misko]

it looks like a matter of compatibility between memory and motherboard.

or maybe when set on auto board just set something to low, gskill represents this for Gigabyte (ga) DS3 and 1000mhz memory. Albatron 965/ga ds3 965/ ga s3 965/ Biostar 965 is prety much the same board, even Albatron bios work on Biostar.

http://www.gskillusa.com/motherboard/ds3/ds3_2gbhzoc_00.jpg

more info:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=113994

[boblemagnifique]

Good Overclocking my friend :)

[before]

Thank you bob! :toast:

@Misko82: So I think I've fixed this issue... I've flashed back the bios to 914 instead of 103 (which is supposed to provide with better memory support and overclocking capacity) and it doesn't boot anymore with weird timings and strange issues appear to have gone away.

Let me share this nice Super Pi 32M done with only 1.71Vcore...

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2720/e6600spi32m10m47172svg5.png

... and this very slightly improved 1M... It crashed shortly after the screenshot was taken :D

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3891/e6600spi1m10235hs5.png

I've made several other runs, and I'll post them ASAP

[Hystrix^]

Great chip before

And pallmall when are you going to test your chip :p

[skirms_fr]

lol :(

your no luck :/ for sub10

[before]

I already have a Super PI 32M @4.86GHz...10m 25s :)

I didn't succeed in finishing one @4.9GHz, but I'll try to get closer.

[Misko]

@before where do u measure vcore? Do u read via win/bios, or dmm?

[Revage]

550 mhz fsb from biostar , NICE !!

[before]

@Misko82: I don't measure actual Vcore; just look at monitoring.

Improvement again...

Super Pi 1M @5003MHz

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6596/e6600spi1m10109yw2.png

Super Pi 32M @4891MHz

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/3593/e6600spi32m10m24672set9.png

I've already benched @5050MHz with 1.90Vcore; I guess sub-10s will be done this time... Stay tunned :D

[blind_ripper]

very nice befor , i would say join the club :p

[T07N]

That's a good cpu you got there. Mine wouldn't go over 530fsb.

[Viss]

I think you wil get into 9 sec with this one. Good luck.


That's a good cpu you got there. Mine wouldn't go over 530fsb.

Cascade helps :D

[before]

Thank you guys :toast:

yea, loc.o is right; cascade helps in order to get a high FSB; the PCB is often very cold around the CPU socket and so is the chipset which is close.

[KingDingeling]

congratulation pour un overclock magnifique!
Nice chip there, good luck on below 10s superPI 1M!

[OB-one]

Nice work bro.. :clap:

[DaCoSa]

Before@ Incredible 6600!!!:woot:

regards

[before]

Thx guys :D

So; sub-10s is done!

http://beforeoverclock.com/images/E6600SPI1M@9,985.png

I was afraid to start MBM5... :)

[Gautam]

Congrats! :YIPPIE:

Looong time coming. Lowest speed ever for the sub-10 as well, of course. :p:

[blind_ripper]

congratz befor , u have done it , and nice time for those speeds !

[Misko]

bravo! Maybe some more info, cpu vcore, temps, :toast:

[Stapler]

Congrats Before, you really deserve this after all your tweaking.

[dinos22]

Thx guys :D

So; sub-10s is done!

http://beforeoverclock.com/images/E6600SPI1M@9,985

I was afraid to start MBM5... :)
LOL at MBM5 comment

if you managed to start up all those other ones i reckon you've got a few more MHz to go with 1M benches :D

[before]

Thank you all! :toast:

@dinos: I think it's the best time I can do at that clocks (CPU + RAM)... all CPU-Z instances and the remaining stuff were started after the Spi run. :)

I've recieved today a brand new 25L dewar and faxed shortly after an order for 25L of LN²... I hope sunday to be a LN² benching day! :D

[dinos22]

Thank you all! :toast:

@dinos: I think it's the best time I can do at that clocks (CPU + RAM)... all CPU-Z instances and the remaining stuff where started after the Spi run. :)

I've recieved today a brand new 25L dewar and faxed shortly after an order for 25L of LN²... I hope sunday to be a LN² benching day! :D
i was thinking you may get an extra MHz FSB there :)

[Erdemliol]

Nice board and scores:clap:

[before]

Thx!

580FSB passed :p:

5229MHz @1.92V

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8043/e6600cpuz5229mhzwcfrhv4.png

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=155620

And a nice Spi 16M

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9767/e6600spi16m4m43109smc3.png

[prosk8]

nice man

[T07N]

damn that biostar board is some good stuff

[KingDingeling]

mhh, seeing these results, Gigabyte DS3 or thie Biostar? They both look good, but just check out these results! omg!

[T07N]

biostar! not all boards are the same and maybe you won't get as lucky as BEFORE but most people are hitting 500fsb+ on those biostar.

[KingDingeling]

thats very interesting @ t07n! Except for here on XS I have heard of noone who says their Biostar is that good...
I'll look further into it with reviews and the like

[T07N]

It depends on what setup you have as well. Sometimes there are other limiting factors other than the motherboard such as memory or cpu.

[before]

mhh, seeing these results, Gigabyte DS3 or thie Biostar? They both look good, but just check out these results! omg!

Biostar is great! ;)

[Blknoel]

Gratz on sub 10 1M, 580FSB is sweet.

[skirms_fr]

hope you will win some precious MHz under LN² (hope this week end :p)

so good job for the sub10 :p

i want the same :p

[before]

Good luck skirms! :)

I've slightly improved my sub 10s to 9.953s but didn't take a screenie as I felt it didn't worth it.

Same thing for the Spi 32M which has been acheived @4.9GHz instead of 4891MHz. I'm thinking of playing with timings now prior to go under LN².

[Boble76]

Thx guys :D

So; sub-10s is done! :)

:toast: Congrats Before!

What are we going to see next? :hrhr:

[DeDaL]

Great CPU
Great MoBo
Great OC'er :)

Pics of the Rig ?

[before]

Thx you both! :D

So next; after taking the lowest clock ever in order to achieve a sub-10s @Spi1M, I'm aiming at taking the lowest clock ever in order to achieve a sub-10mins @Spi32M. I guess, not so much more speed is needed ; about 5050MHz should be ok with a E6600. Here's what should happen (I might be wrong hehe).

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/8766/32myn1.png

Boble76, what about Team Skootterit? Are you considering making some benchies in the next future?

You know I don't have the muscles to play with those X6800s within the 5.4GHz - 5.5GHz range ; but tweaks help peeps like me whom run 'only' E6600 on P965 C1 rev board.

And now, I'm coming to the LN² side... :D

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3325/dewar1jb0.jpg

http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/9216/dewar2bk1.jpg

[dinos22]

oh goodie

franticly hitting F5 :D

[Boble76]

Boble76, what about Team Skootterit? Are you considering making some benchies in the next future?

Surely in the future, maybe 10th or 17th on March if all Team Skootterit members have time and money. (Some drinks too :toast: ) . We're planning that weekend.
LN2 maybe for us too,hmm... :nono:

Good luck for you!

[Dani]

Yep, but we must have those half-solid copper containers till benchmark weekend.
The we will have LN2, but if no half-solid so then we must run with DI again :(

[d4n13l]

Very well tweaked Win 2k3, congrats!

[skirms_fr]

Yep, but we must have those half-solid copper containers till benchmark weekend.
The we will have LN2, but if no half-solid so then we must run with DI again :(

a copper/alu is enough and not so expensive to buy / make :)

[Dani]

What I meant is that those containers (two) are under construction :D

[before]

LN² was a bad miss :( The Biostar becomes crazy while running extremely cold temps. I need another mobo.

I've made more few runs under cascade but nothing like LN² stuff...

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6430/e6600spi2m25016rc4.png

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/371/e6600spi32m10m21797sbq8.png

[Misko]

:( too bad before, maybe Biostar starts to corrupt u take a hell out of it :).

[blind_ripper]

at what temps dos it start to freak befor ?
are u sure not coldbug :( , would be :banana::banana::banana::banana: if u have to throw away that nice LN2:banana:

[before]

Yep of course it's cold-bug; but not CPU related. I mean, the system won't even post < -140C and that looks like CPU bug, but < -90C the mobo starts to become silly.

I've got some problems under cascade but I always managed to solve them with patience. BTW these problems are too strong under LN&#178;... :(

[Misko]

BTW these problems are too strong under LN²... :(

:( the board is very very fast and it would be a pleasure to see how many more expensive boards stay behind biostar. But seams like Asus is still the best solution for intel.

[before]

May be... ;)

Interesting thing to note, the Biostar seems to search a strap in order to boot within the very high FSB range, let's say 530 to 600.

For instance, I've booted @600FSB*9, the post screen monitored 5.4GHz but actual clock was 3XXFSB*9 under windows. Then, it was required to boot @401FSB*9, and do it again @540FSB*9 in order to recover the real setting.

[LittleDevil]

Great results, finally sub 10 but with E6600 ;) :toast:

regards

[before]

Thank you buddy! :toast:

Next aim now, getting the lowest clock ever in order to achieve sub-10mins @Spi32M.

[before]

I'll recieve tomorrow morning a P5B Dlx from San Jose, CA. It'll be a 1.03G... I've asked for a 1.04G which is known to be built with C2 rev of P965 but they don't have this version.

Don't know if it'll be a FSB gem like the Biostar but I'll try it under cascade first and use LN&#178; if results are good. :)

[before]

So, the board is arrived... I've quickly tested it under cascade and result is very very good! :D

605FSB *8 with 1.70Vmch DMM (Vcore = 1.85V DMM, Vdimm = 2.45V bios)

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9118/p5b605fsbsf7.png

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=158088

Increasing Vmch up to 1.73V gave me 8FSB more.

[C3]

Incredible results,bro :D !!!

[LittleDevil]

Great speed, how did you cool NB? Which bios do you have on P5B?

regards

[before]

Thx mates :)

@LittleDevil: Aparts from the stock heatsink, NB is cooled with 2 fans (the one over the other). Bios is the 614 (original one) ;)

[Gautam]

How about swapping that out for an E6400 WR since you already got the FSB to handle it? :p:

[before]

hehe, I'll give it a try next Monday :D

[hey]

hehe, I'll give it a try next Monday :D

good board before..;)

[runmc]

amazing overclocks on the e6600 - I love the biostar..:D

[before]

Thx mates! :)