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Liquid3D
05-11-2003, 08:09 AM
No longer a VirGin! I know this is nothing for you experienced overclockers, sayaa, Hardass, TheDude, JCviggen, MrIcee, SysFailur, and the rest (whom inspired, and helped me) but for me, this is the highest "stable" overclock, I've ever experienced. Did it with Soltek SL-75FRN2-L, and $61.50 AXDA1700DUT3C 0302MPM. 1.75V 13x185FSB. Can't believe a $200 2400 couldn't run stable at this speed, no matter the voltage.

Now I'm putting my piggy 2400 AIUCB into the Prommie, and hope for the best. Freezing it may be the only way to get it to sing. And the vertical socket on the 8RDA really placed a lot of tension in the Prommie's capillary. So I'm going to try the 8K9A, it's horozontal socket, doens't place nearly as much tension on the micro-freezer. I thought the 8RDA was fried, but I think I misinterpreted the black screen, as the HDD simply needing to be reformatted. Anyhoo, I'm placing the "silly string" on the back-plate as I type.

Hardass
05-11-2003, 08:16 AM
Nice work!:toast:

CCW
05-11-2003, 08:22 AM
Those 1700s rock, well done!

Tweaked!
05-11-2003, 08:34 AM
It's a proud moment when you know you finally found the ability to run with the big boys;)

gobbo
05-11-2003, 08:36 AM
I think we owe a big thanx to AMD for this!
If it wasn't for them bringing out these amazing 1700+ chips

SupaMan
05-11-2003, 10:18 AM
looks nice. your 2400 must have been a crappy batch though. Mine runs stable at 2600 and posts at 2700...

Major
05-11-2003, 10:39 AM
Liquid3D way to go my friend !!

Just because you lost your cherry dosn't make you a whore, I'll still respect you !:)

Peckers
05-11-2003, 10:42 AM
lookin' good!
keep posting those results

EdgarBaba
05-11-2003, 10:45 AM
>>>great liquid...<<<

lol slaughter...

i'm about to send my first 1700+ to hell.. made 15 or 20 over 2300mhz but none of them my property :(

hope mine is a good one...

XtremepH
05-11-2003, 11:55 AM
hey Liquid i also had to replace my crappy xp2400+ w/ 1700+ B the 2400 wouldn't do anything past 2300mhz while my new chip does 2400mhz @ 1.8volts. i sold that 2400+ so fast

MrLavender
05-11-2003, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by SupaMan
looks nice. your 2400 must have been a crappy batch though. Mine runs stable at 2600 and posts at 2700... Yeah, a lot of the early AIUCB's were, I had one that required 1.8v just for 100% stability at 12.5x166. :rolleyes: Highest I ever got it in 3dMark was 2230MHz but that wasn't exactly stable. ;)

theonetheycall
05-11-2003, 02:57 PM
I feel you Liquid, I paid 200 + Tax from the Egg for my 2400+ a couple months ago and I can't go into windows @ anything in the range of 20Mhz off 2.4Ghz. :( But it will do High FSB's though :)

I have a 2400+ AIUGB 0245..

SupaMan
05-11-2003, 04:54 PM
ah, mines an AIUHB

Liquid3D
05-12-2003, 12:49 AM
Originally posted by Major Slaughter
Liquid3D way to go my friend !!

Just because you lost your cherry dosn't make you a whore, I'll still respect you !:) LOL Thank you! I was struggling over just that. Now if I can only get the "OCZ" tattoo graphed off my forehead.

Now I'm slowly working on the FSB bandwidth push. (I won't dare speculate on this being another "form" of deflowering).

kchip
05-12-2003, 08:45 AM
My last 1700 was a DUT 0302. I had to pump 2v into to get 2300 Mhz.

jdmcnudgent
05-12-2003, 09:27 AM
nice oc.:banana:

mike.elmes
05-12-2003, 09:38 AM
And the vertical socket on the 8RDA really placed a lot of tension in the Prommie's capillary[/QUOTE]

Gee... when I first rigged up the 2700+ in the prom, with the 8rda+ I had the retension clip on backwards which made the install way too tight. Are you sure that didn't happen to you?

Nice clockin,

mike

Liquid3D
05-13-2003, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by kchip
My last 1700 was a DUT 0302. I had to pump 2v into to get 2300 Mhz. Really, maybe I better not recommend this to too many people. Do you remember the last four letters in the code, i.e. WPMW. Mine ended with only three MPM, and I'm wondering what significance this may have, according to this guide; http://lowyat.isentral.com/guides/athlonxp/ and this guide which claims the letters (AXDC) preceeding the PR number, can indicate a remarked Barton, with half the cache(?); http://www.thetechboard.com/tutorials/athlon_xp.php
The author claims this is to fill TBred orders, yet I'm still somewhat puzzeled as to how AMD would "disable" the Barton's 512K cache? Their certainly not able to alter the physical architecture of the chip, once the lithograpic etching has affected the resist, so how then could this be? More importantly, if this is true how do we enable the full 512K cache? Can it be done via the bridges?

antipop
05-13-2003, 01:47 AM
Congrat

Liquid3D
05-13-2003, 02:12 AM
Originally posted by mike.elmes
...Gee... when I first rigged up the 2700+ in the prom, with the 8rda+ I had the retension clip on backwards which made the install way too tight. Are you sure that didn't happen to you?...mike I'm almost positive, because there's really only one way in which the clamp will center over the AMD core. Yet, in every review I've read, I seem to be the only one who feels this tension, when mounting the microfreezer? I don't know if my particular unit just had a stiff capillary, or what. But there's a lot of "side" tension when mounting it, as if it prefers to mounted vertically. Anyway, here's a pic of it now mounted on the 8K9A. Tell me what you think?
Edit: looking at this photo, you can see at the corners of the clamp's cut-out for the core, the protective pads on the CPU. Could these be lifting the clamp?
Nix that, I just tried to see if the microfreezer could be turned around the opposte way, there's only one way this clamp, can mount and fit into the microfreezer screw holes.

mike.elmes
05-13-2003, 08:33 AM
Did you try to rotate the plastic piece 180 degrees. Beacause then the metal can also be rotated...hmmmmm?

Susquehannock
05-25-2003, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by Liquid3D
No longer a VirGin! I know this is nothing for you experienced overclockers, sayaa, Hardass, TheDude, JCviggen, MrIcee, SysFailur, and the rest (whom inspired, and helped me) but for me, this is the highest "stable" overclock, I've ever experienced. Did it with Soltek SL-75FRN2-L, and $61.50 AXDA1700DUT3C 0302MPM. 1.75V 13x185FSB. Can't believe a $200 2400 couldn't run stable at this speed, no matter the voltage.




Nice job Liquid! :toast:
That;s a great speed from that 1.6v 1700.

Still an OC virgin here as well.
Gonna use a Soltek to bust my cherry too.:D

Already have the "special" 1700, just need NewEgg
to restock so I can order an SL-75FRN2-RL. They
look to be great boards. Some are getting incredible
speeds from them at stock voltage, right out of the box.
And it's the cheapest nForce2 board too.

All this time helping my buds get their rigs together, it's going to
be fun building my own "play rig". The red 9500np card
should be here soon. Boy I hope it mods to a 9700pro OK:hehe:

ryanpgroovy
05-25-2003, 08:30 PM
go go

saaya
05-26-2003, 04:29 AM
looks very nice! :) congrats!

you really cant stop thinking about it beeing a thorton can you :p
if it really is, then you should be able to see it since the barton cores are longer then tbred cores. why do you put the worse overclocker of your chips in the prommie? i bet the 1700 can reach 2.8+ on ice :D

Liquid3D
05-26-2003, 09:18 AM
Thank you guys! I've done even better thanx to OCZ, PCPower&Cooling and AMD;

antipop
05-26-2003, 09:30 AM
That's some nice number you have there Congrat

Peen
05-26-2003, 09:53 AM
Man u guys are lucky. I had the FRN2-RL but sending back to newegg today cause i messed up the bios. On my asus i can only get my 1700 to 2.2ghz 2.2volts. Kinda sucks and my Soltek could barely hit 2.05ghz with 1.75 volts all with extreme air cooling and a JUIHB DUT3C week 0312. If getting a CPU avoid those, all from newegg

CCW
05-26-2003, 12:14 PM
Thats some nice bandwidth Liquid3D! :D

Liquid3D
05-27-2003, 05:19 AM
Thank's but poeple are getting 3600MB/s and 3800MB/s, I tried to lower the multiplier and up the FSB, but just like the review said 228-229FSB seems to be the limit on this board. Thank you. I need a Canterwood!

antipop
05-27-2003, 06:07 AM
try some tigher settings for the ram, maybe you'll get better score

CCW
05-27-2003, 06:51 AM
Yeah, do what antipop said, your still getting more bandwit=dth than me, Canterwoods rule! :D

Liquid3D
05-27-2003, 10:19 AM
That's the first thing I tried. The higher the FSB and clock speed the lower the latencies must be, and the lowewr the bandwidth. So I tried lowering the multiplier, thinking a low multi will allow high FSB, and tighter timings. Which it did, but when I ran the Sandra Memory benchmark again, although the FSB was higher, the bandwidth was lower as the clock-speed was lower.

antipop
05-28-2003, 01:08 AM
Ijn an amd system, it's better to have less fsb but better timing. If you're score start to fall, try to add a bit of voltage or back down a little

Liquid3D
05-28-2003, 11:53 AM
Could it just be given the parameters I can't surpass 3405MB/s? I think your right, though. what's holding me back from 2.6GHGz is I'm maxed out at 2480MHz at 1.85V which is highest Vcore on the Soltek? Let me ask you, does it make sense to give enthusiastrs an adjustable VDD to 1.8V, and limit the Vcore to 1.85V?

antipop
05-28-2003, 01:10 PM
Nope even though chip don't need as much voltage as before, they should at least put it at 1.95V