power supplys that come with cases

[jacob9]

im really digging this new case because its big,has lots of space inside and looks good


case1 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144004)


do u think the PSU can support a
e6300(eventrually OC'ed)
2 hds in raid 0
1 7950gt ko hdcp
asus p5b
a sound blaster xfi or whatever lol :)
and a e6300 fan type (costs 50 bucks)
eventaully i want to add another 500 gig HD
:)

thanks fellas

[BobMaximus]

I don't doubt that it'll support it, but usually power supplies that come with the cases aren't of very good quality, and good quality is important when you consider what a PSU could do to your other components if it died/blew out. So i'd recommend buying a separate PSU or trying to find that case without the PSU included.

[Ashraf]

If I were you, I wouldn't buy a computer case that comes with a power supply. Why? What BobMaximus said. ;)

[Quest_7F]

and the case doesn't look good at all

[apt403]

Bundled psu's are rarely any good, and Apevia psu's are about the worst that you can get. So yeah, that psu might support your system, but ill bet anything that the thing will die in less then a month, and when it does its going to take your pc with it. The power it'll provide will probably be unstable as hell to. My advice to you, get a quality psu, it'll cost more, but i think it would be better to spend $100 now then lose $1000 later.

here are a couple psu's that are fairly cheap, but still reliable and powerful.

Enermax Liberty 500w - $105 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817194003)
Antec NeoHE 550w - $115 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103941) (theres a $30 mail in rebate, so its really $85.)
Antec TruePower Trio 550w -$100 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817371002)

[nn_step]

umm a Chinese power supply. umm I would advise against that

[[TAG]Imp]

umm a Chinese power supply. umm I would advise against that
RACIST! :p:

[jacob9]

what case would u recommend for the 130 US$ price point?

i already know of a good PSU

a
xclio greatpower sli certified


but i thought the case was good :(

but really what case would be good for lots of airflow and llots of room for like 100-130?

[jacob9]

i found a nice looking OCZ gamestream 700watt for 150 with free shipping

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817341002

[mike047]

umm a Chinese power supply. umm I would advise against that


I have 45 "chinese" PSUs in my crunchers:D
I have had psu failures but have never "lost" a box:)
Up until 2 weeks ago, I never paid more than $39 for one and have used the psu that come with Rosewill case for about 35 boxes.

If you have a good computer get a GOOD name brand power supply:)

[mike047]

i found a nice looking OCZ gamestream 700watt for 150 with free shipping

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817341002


This a good one;

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817703005

[jacob9]

free shipping :)
and its 150 down from 170 and if it didnt have free shipping it would be 185
and its got liek 500 reviews are 80% are 5/5
:)

[[XC] hipno650]

that ocz one you found is absolutely beautiful!!!! i have one and love it!!! and for the price:slobber: very good highly recommended. that pc and power cooling one is nice as well but 90watts off the pace:D

[nn_step]

I have 45 "chinese" PSUs in my crunchers:D
I have had psu failures but have never "lost" a box:)
Up until 2 weeks ago, I never paid more than $39 for one and have used the psu that come with Rosewill case for about 35 boxes.

If you have a good computer get a GOOD name brand power supply:)
true but at the same time you can get a very good brand with sufficient wattage for a Cruncher even cheaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104951
it will not run an X1950XTX or a 8800GTX but it'll power just about any Mobo/CPU combination

[mike047]

true but at the same time you can get a very good brand with sufficient wattage for a Cruncher even cheaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104951
it will not run an X1950XTX or a 8800GTX but it'll power just about any Mobo/CPU combination


http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.asp?Image=17%2D104%2D951%2D07%2Ejpg%2C17 %2D104%2D951%2D01%2Ejpg%2C17%2D104%2D951%2D02%2Ejp g%2C17%2D104%2D951%2D03%2Ejpg%2C17%2D104%2D951%2D0 4%2Ejpg%2C17%2D104%2D951%2D05%2Ejpg%2C17%2D104%2D9 51%2D06%2Ejpg&CurImage=17%2D104%2D951%2D02%2Ejpg&Description=FSP+Group+%28Fortron+Source%29+ATX300% 2DPA+version+2%2E0%2C+SATA%2C%0D%0A300W+Power+Supp ly+%2D+OEM

made in china:D

little gold sticker:D

[JPeitzman]

The OCZ is a decent PSU, here are some others though to consider:

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=270&products_id=20798
*don't worry that it is 50watt less than the OCZ, it will give you much more stable and clean power*
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=160&products_id=3864
*Extremely strong and stable high quality single rail PSU*
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=160&products_id=4447
*Extremely strong and stable high quality PSU that can handle almost anything, although it is $30 more than the OCZ*

Than PCP&C is also a very good PSU, the internals are made by Seasonic. Don't always go by what the "reviewers" on Newegg say, they don't always know what they are talking about.

Avoid cases with PSU's built in, most of the time they are low quality crap. All the previous posts are right, it would power it, but it would fail, and it might take components with it.

As for cases:

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=104&products_id=2708
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=114&products_id=3489
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=114&products_id=4443
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=162&products_id=20817
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=162&products_id=3182

You could also look into the Cooler Master Stacker or the Lian Li G80. I didn't list these because they are around $50 more than your $130 price point. Both of these cases though are awesome. They have tons of room and are very high quality. I am referring to the older style Stacker, not the Stacker 830, it is about $250, much more than the older ones. If you get a nice high quality case and PSU it will last you a quite a while and many a build. So remember, it might hurt now to get say a $150+ case and a almost $200 PSU, but you won't have to buy a new one for a while.

Personally I would get the Lian Li PC-7 (the first link I posted) and the 650watt Seasonic S12, that is about $250. I like to figure about $300 for the PSU and case, at least, when I build, but that is just me. Plus I also say that once you go Lian Li or SilverStone (Quality wise) you will never look at cases the same again.

[INFRNL]

cases that come with PSU's already are usually crap. I have bought a couple of cases for people in the past; 1 PSU was DOA, and the other died after a couple of weeks. I would highly recommend getting a good quality PSU and sell the one that comes with it

INFRNL

[sierra_bound]

umm a Chinese power supply. umm I would advise against that
I believe most PSU's are manufactured in China now, even those with well-known brand names.

[mike047]

I believe most PSU's are manufactured in China now, even those with well-known brand names.


This is/was my thoughts, also.

There are good and bad ones, just do the homework and find the one that suits your use. There are several indepth threads on the net that will help in correct choice of psu. Here is one;

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=136602

A blanket statements, xxxx is crap or psu made in xxxx are not correct or helpful.

[Movieman]

A guy I know is an importer. We were talking about PSU's one day and he tells me that on a trip to China where he has 2 plants that make parts for him( non PC related) he was approached and told that he could buy PSU's at $5.25 each with whatever sticker he wanted on them..300 watt..350 watt,,400 watt..didn't matter..This was maybe a year ago and opened my eyes to that end of the business.

[sierra_bound]

Another thing worth pointing out is that many PSU's are not actually made by the company whose name is on the box. For example:

- PC Power & Cooling Silencers are actually made by Seasonic

- Channel Well makes PSU's for Antec & Thermaltake

- FSP Group makes PSU's for OCZ, Sparkle and Zalman

- Topower makes PSU's for OCZ, Tagan and Mushkin

- Lite-on makes the Ablecom PSU's used by Supermicro

[Movieman]

Another thing worth pointing out is that many PSU's are not actually made by the company whose name is on the box. For example:

- PC Power & Cooling Silencers are actually made by Seasonic

- Channel Well makes PSU's for Antec & Thermaltake

- FSP Group makes PSU's for OCZ, Sparkle and Zalman

- Topower makes PSU's for OCZ, Tagan and Mushkin

- Lite-on makes the Ablecom PSU's used by Supermicro
I wasn't aware of this. I have the PCP+C,Sparkle, and Ablecom and they all work excellent!

[sierra_bound]

I wasn't aware of this. I have the PCP+C,Sparkle, and Ablecom and they all work excellent!
The number of companies actually manufacturing PSU's is much smaller than the number of companies selling them.;)

[nn_step]

The number of companies actually manufacturing PSU's is much smaller than the number of companies selling them.;)
of course given the high cost of Factories and the need to streamline costs

[[XC] moddolicous]

Umm, new OCZ's are made by 3y Power (according to hear:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=42)
Who makes silverstones?

[sierra_bound]

Who makes silverstones?
I believe Silverstones are manufactured by a company called Enhance Electronics.

[nn_step]

I believe Silverstones are manufactured by a company called Enhance Electronics.
Enhance doesn't make them Andyson makes them.
Enhance is just a relabeled Andyson if I remember correctly

[sierra_bound]

Enhance doesn't make them Andyson makes them.
Enhance is just a relabeled Andyson if I remember correctly
http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=43

"The ST75F is the next model up in the Strider line from the 600W ST60F unit. Like the ST60F, the ST75F is manufactured for SilverStone by Enhance Electronics."

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/atx-psu6_9.html

"The 750W and 850W models are very similar, so I will discuss them both together. According to the certificate number (UL# E166947), the actual manufacturer of the PSU is Enhance Electronics."

http://www.enhanceusa.com/corp_overview.htm

"Enhance Electronics is a leading manufacturer of Switching Power Supplies since 1986."

[JPeitzman]

The Strider's, Elements, and old Zeus's (the 650watt one) are made by Enhance. The newer Zeus's...ie the 560, 750, and 850watt ones are made by Etasis. The newest one, the Olympia 1KWatt is made by SevenTeam.

I don't think that Andyson and Enhance are the same. Andyson makes the guts for Hyper, Ultra, Sunbeamtech, and Aerocool.

[sierra_bound]

The UL number will always tell you who made a particular PSU. If you go to the UL website, you just enter the file number under the certifications directory and the manufacturer's name will pop up.

The 750W Silverstone apparently had the wrong UL number on it.

[jacob9]

off topic though
im looking @ the asus p5b deluxe mobo right and for memory on the 965 chipset it says

only jdec complaint 1.8volt and 5-5-5 or 6-6-6 ram will work on the intel 965 express chipset

does that mean i cant use them on it @ all?

cuz i can only find el cheapo ram thats 5-5-5 and 1.8volt

[Bbq]

ALL power supplies are made in China/taiwan. ALL of them.

[Oklahoma Wolf]

Enhance and Andyson are two different companies. Sparkle, and Powertek (not to be confused with PowerTekPro) are subsidiaries of FSP. FSP also owns controlling interest in 3Y.

There are actually two Silverstone Zeus models not made by Etasis - they are the ST65ZF and what used to be the only Zeus model, the ST52F. These are both Enhance.