F@H and their race

[[XC] hipno650]

i was lookin in the F@H section today and saw they are in aheated race for 10.5mill against TPR. i think that a bunch of guys for our team should go over and give them a boost in order to beat TPR. once that is done they could come back and resume our quest to beat easynews. some of us would stay here and hold down the fort and keep us over one mill in the dailies. so mabye someone should create a rooster (purely voluntary) for people to stay and people to go and help xs beat TPR.

i for one could go ether way (stay or go help) but i would only be able to put a bit more towards there effort because of the location of most of my rigs.

we need to act fast as they are running out of time.

[[XC] gomeler]

Currently helping QMC@H try to fend of Planet 3DNow! until this Friday when I'll be putting my rig back onto WCG, wish I had more cores to throw at the problem but too many projects and not enough computing power. Time to write a client for my TI-83.

[[XC] moddolicous]

I sent out a couple pms and got a few replies. We really do owe them for our D2OL push and Rosetta push. As of right now, they are the #41 producer in the world. I think we should make the push for top 10. I have all my rigs going on it currently (even a new AMD 4000 (single core) running only @ 2.5 because of ram :( ). This can only help us because when we have our race for 1 with Easynews, they will probably be willing to help us in return.

[[XC] 4X4N]

I put my conroe plus 2 dual core amd's on f@h. Hopefully we can get a few more to do the same.

[[XC] flat-four]

Switched over an opty and an old p4 rig.

[jspace]

Time to write a client for my TI-83.
If you did this, I would hijack everyones calculator.:bananal: I bet in a year or so a TI-83 would finish a F@H WU.:D

edit: f@h doesn't like slow comps does it? Damn I need to get that switch working. And ethernet cables :stick:

[SparkyJJO]

Hey guys nice to see some help coming our way :) Much appreciated :toast:

jspace, I have a P3 750MHz folding right now, so when you say "slow comps" how slow you talking? ;)

[[XC] hipno650]

if someone could point me to links on how to set up i could get it running on a few. mabye even my new 4200x2:D

[SparkyJJO]

Here ya go, just typed this out for someone else :) (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1885142&postcount=2)

[jspace]

Hey guys nice to see some help coming our way :) Much appreciated :toast:

jspace, I have a P3 750MHz folding right now, so when you say "slow comps" how slow you talking? ;)

I mean P3s. Slow is a subjective word, it depends on what is being compared. I s'pose I could put f@h on my Tualeron.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

I've put everyhting I have towards the Phoenix Rising Challenge. That is, my X1900XT, the other E6600 core (as the GPU client needs a dedicated CPU core), my 2.8 P4 laptop, a 3ghz Opty, and a 2.3ghz X2 using the Linux-64 SMP client. I'll be getting an E6400 running it this coming week, and then an X1650XT.

[[XC] hipno650]

i have got it running on my main p4 right now using 20% of my cpu while the other 80% is 2 faah wu's. all one one single core proc:D i will bump it up in abit and maybe put it on a p4 2.4ghz as well.

[[XC] moddolicous]

I've put everything I have towards the Phoenix Rising Challenge. That is, my X1900XT, the other E6600 core (as the GPU client needs a dedicated CPU core), my 2.8 P4 laptop, a 3ghz Opty, and a 2.3ghz X2 using the Linux-64 SMP client. I'll be getting an E6400 running it this coming week, and then an X1650XT.
Man, what an army Dragonotra. Currently, I got the following:
Amd XP 2200 @ 1950 (memtest said that was the highest that was stable)
Amd Sempron 2800 (754) @ 2.2ghz
New Amd 3800 (single core for now) @ 2.5 (haven't gotten around to ocing/ bad ram)
Look forward to getting one or two more crunchers up soon (older machines though).

[[XC] hipno650]

i am guna put f@h on my rig only but i will run it 100% until this push is over so no more wcg on this for a little while.

edit: how can i make it use 100% of my cpu with HT it says it's only using 50% right now and the slider in the configuration is at 100%. i am using the graphics client.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

Man, what an army Dragonotra. Currently, I got the following:
Amd XP 2200 @ 1950 (memtest said that was the highest that was stable)
Amd Sempron 2800 (754) @ 2.2ghz
New Amd 3800 (single core for now) @ 2.5 (haven't gotten around to ocing/ bad ram)
Look forward to getting one or two more crunchers up soon (older machines though).
You think this is an army, ShootStraight just barged right in, put the Mac-Intel SMP client on 5 of his Merom Mac Minis and blasted right by me! :cussing:

[[XC] DragonOrta]

i am guna put f@h on my rig only but i will run it 100% until this push is over so no more wcg on this for a little while.

edit: how can i make it use 100% of my cpu with HT it says it's only using 50% right now and the slider in the configuration is at 100%. i am using the graphics client.
I'm guessing that you'll have to use two clients in different folders, like you would with the console client.

[[XC] hipno650]

i can't seem to get two running at once as it says that i already have one running. can someone tell me how to make this work thanks.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

I'd suggest switching to the console client, as it's not really harder at all to run, and it's what most on the team run, so it will be easier to find answers to questions.

I know that you need to have two clients, and have them in separate directories. I usually make a Folding folder, and then fah1 and fah2 folders inside the Folding folder, where I put the clients.

[SparkyJJO]

i can't seem to get two running at once as it says that i already have one running. can someone tell me how to make this work thanks.
I don't know about getting multiple GUI clients running, sorry :( I've only used the console myself, I've heard it is a little faster since it isn't also rendering the graphics.

[eXa]

u cant run multiple GUI clients. Just use console versions, They will be slightly faster than GUI too...

[[XC] hipno650]

do you think i could get one gui and one console version running at the same time?

[SparkyJJO]

I don't know, never tried...

[STEvil]

rename one of the exe's?

[jimwah]

Thanks for the help on the TPR race, I really appreciate the efforts being made from you guys, the daily scores from XS FAH team are rising higher than I've seen before; it's a tough challenge ahead with little time left to turn the tables...I will repay my debt to WCG when called upon :up:

On HT processors 1x folding client will only report as 50% usage, but usage is actually 100%. This is windows thinkin HT is another CPU when it isn't. But you can run 2x clients on HT rigs if you really want (the general view is that you should get a small points boost, but obviously the units take longer to complete)

1x GUI and 1x console should run ok, when you configure the console client it will ask you if you want to configure advanced options answer yes and accept the defaults on the options it presents, apart from Machine ID, set this to 2 or any number apart from 1. Hopefully then they will both run happily :) I'm not a GUI user either so it's a shot in the dark. hth,

jimwah :toast:

[[XC] hipno650]

i will just keep the one client running then. :woot: 1wu so far and 130 points:D but the next wu has 20000 frames:( guna be a while for this one.

[[XC] moddolicous]

Well, it looks bleak now, but if we can get some more crunchers (40+) then we will be able to beat TPR to 10.5mil.

[[XC] moddolicous]

Well, we need more crunchers!!! Come'on guys. This is only for a couple more weeks (3 at most). Lets give the F@H team a nice Christmas present. I'm going 110% on this right now and will switch back over when the race is over.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

Exactly. The F@H team is also one of the DC teams at XS. It shouldn't be XS WCG-Vault projects on one big team with F@H off in their corner, as it so often seems to be.

This is an XS-DC competition. And we aren't going to be able to win it without alot more firepower.

Do you want XS to lose a competition? I know I sure as h3ll dont!

If I wasn't having to save my money for x-mas, I'd be ordering Kents and x1900xts as long as my bank account would let me.

[[XC]thewildblue]

Moved a few over yesterday, DX with 3 instances, an x2 3800+ and my main rig which isnt on 24/7 unfortunately.

[jimwah]

:toast: Nice one twb & thanks to everyone that has answered the call so far.

[angra]

The biggest hope for the F@H group is if we tap the immense GPU power on XS. By my count if 50 or so people with ATI GPU jumped in, we'd have a pretty good shot.

I'm throwing ~85 CPU and a GPU at it :)

[Hassan]

The GPU client is not running stable on my Kent with an x1900 with Boinc on it... The client keeps saying early termination of WU within a few secs of running the WU.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

What drivers are you running?

[Hassan]

catalyst 6.8

[SparkyJJO]

Hi Hassan,
That is your problem. You need to use either the 6.5's or the 6.10's, the others don't work for whatever reason. If one doesn't work well then switch to the other, I had trouble with the 6.10's and went to the 6.5's but others have had trouble with the 6.5's and went to the 6.10's. Just use either of those that work :)

[heater918]

We have a long battle ahead of us in WCG so lets throw some weight over to F@H for awhile :cool: The machine has 6 cores and i'm going to run my other opty after tonight.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

Hassan, the 6.11 cats also work with F@H. That's what I use on my x1900xt.

[Jose]

Diablo is in!!! I hope that I enetered the correct team number (te he te he) I joined under a sub-team ( I hope I am being counted) I know it is folding I can see the molecule.... :)

[SparkyJJO]

as long as you put the team number 36362 in then you are all set :toast:

[[XC]thewildblue]

Im having probs with the gpu client as well. Im running the latest CATs, maybe thats the problem.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

6.11s have been working great for my x1900xt, and the 6.12s are working for my x1650xt. If I could install the 6.11s on my x1650xt, I would, but they don't recognize it, so to the 6.12s I went. I read on the Standford Folding forums that the 6.12s are totally hit or miss when it comes to whether they will work with the F@H GPU client, so I'd stick to the 6.11s if you can.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

Good to hear that Diablo is running with us, Jose!

You joined under a sub-team? I wonder which one that might be.:idea:

We have a long battle ahead of us in WCG so lets throw some weight over to F@H for awhile :cool: The machine has 6 cores and i'm going to run my other opty after tonight.
Heater, when is The Machine going to start chasing me down? I've been trying to chase ShootStraight, but his Mini Army is too much for me. :D :slobber:

[[XC] riptide]

I have a 50000 one on one core of a E6600. These things take a time and a half!!!! Anyways after this one is done I'll move to console client. This 'normal' graphical is crap. if i pause the work, I loose the stupid tray icon. I also think the damn thing stalled on me. Maybe thats just my imagination but.... I refused to put it onto any more machines. But I might if the console client works better for me.

[SparkyJJO]

yes the console client is definitely better. The GUI one just isn't as good, I used it for a short time and soon switched over to the console, it was more tweakable as well :D

[heater918]

Heater, when is The Machine going to start chasing me down? I've been trying to chase ShootStraight, but his Mini Army is too much for me. :D :slobber:
My room is heating up nicely, thank you or thanks to you :D
I thought we would of been producing more points, i know i got the 36362 right.:p:

[[XC] DragonOrta]

LOL. I think that I have my parents considering turning the heat off with all of my computers running full speed. :D

[pythagoras]

Cat 5 or 10 ,11. 12 has bugs.

Regards

John.

[Movieman]

Just added my DX3600 to F@H till Christmas. Yes, it was a tough decision but I guess in the final this is about people and I can't say no to them.
Lot of good people on F@H and thats the deciding factor.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

Cat 5 or 10 ,11. 12 has bugs.

Regards

John.
Pythagoras, do you know if 6.12 are the only cats to support the x1650xt? I tried installing the 6.11s on it, but they didn't recognize the card. Gave the error message that's something along the lines of "Setup could not find a card that is supported by this driver. Try installing a Standard video driver first."

[pythagoras]

Its the client that should recognise the x1600's try 6.10 and the latest gpu client.

Regards

John.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

No, I tried installing the 6.11 cats, but they wouldn't because it said it didn't recognize a supported card.

[heater918]

I think were building up some steam here :cool:

[KaptainBlaZzed]

what would get me more points?

2 cpu clients on my 6400 or

1 cpu client on the 6400 and 1 gpu client on my 1950xtx

[[XC] DragonOrta]

1 CPU and 1 x1950xtx by far. :slobber:

What are the clocks on the x1950xtx?

[KaptainBlaZzed]

got 1 core of the e6400 @ 3.3 and my 1950xtx at stock 3D speeds up and running.

what name do i use to add my points to my free-dc rig.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

You'll use "KaptainBlazedxtremesystems.org" varying the capitalization to match how you wrote it. Thanks for hopping aboard and helping us out, Kaptain :toast:

[KaptainBlaZzed]

You'll use "KaptainBlazedxtremesystems.org" varying the capitalization to match how you wrote it. Thanks for hopping aboard and helping us out, Kaptain :toast:


no problem

how do i find my average frame rate?
where do i get my stats?

[[XC] DragonOrta]

Are you using the GUI or the Console version?

[[XC]thewildblue]

Yep Im 6.12 for my x1600xt. I will look at changing. Again a question is will I be better off with 2 x instances on opty@2.7 or 1 cpu and 1 gpu ?

[[XC] DragonOrta]

Yep Im 6.12 for my x1600xt. I will look at changing. Again a question is will I be better off with 2 x instances on opty@2.7 or 1 cpu and 1 gpu ?
It's hard to say for an X1600XT. How long is it taking to complete 1% of a WU in the FAHlog.txt file? If it's taking over 14 minutes or so, that'd be about one WU a day, which would be a guaranteed 330 points, as opposed to the regular client WUs, which span from ~150 points to 600 points, and can take up to 2 days to complete.

Just post up the time that you're getting in the FAHlog.txt file, and we'll go from there. :D

[[XC]thewildblue]

Will do when I get the chance and roll back some drivers.

[jimwah]

no problem

how do i find my average frame rate?
where do i get my stats?

EOC Stats Page 1 (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_list.php?s=&p=1) we're orange & in #95 currently. Click on the team name for a summary, then on Team User List on the left of that page for a full list. And some free-DC stats here (http://stats.free-dc.org/new/teamstats.php?proj=fah&team=xtremesystems.org) if you feel the need for pie :) Thanks for helping out KB :toast:

ps There's a program called FAHmon which you can use to monitor progress of WU but I don't think it will recognise GPU units currently.

[KaptainBlaZzed]

Are you using the GUI or the Console version?

I am using the console.

it takes about 6.18 minutes to complete a step on the 1950xtx i think. I have not checked the log so i am just guessing.

7 hours of run time to complete 68 steps last night. is that good?

[SparkyJJO]

That is about 9.7 minutes per step, 16.2 hours per WU... hmm. My X1900XT at stock 2D speeds got about 14 hours per WU, and now with the core at XTX 3D speeds is about 11 hours per WU, so something is amiss.

You said you have it at 3D speeds right? Do you have a whole core of your CPU dedicated to the GPU (no other clients using it)?

[KaptainBlaZzed]

That is about 9.7 minutes per step, 16.2 hours per WU... hmm. My X1900XT at stock 2D speeds got about 14 hours per WU, and now with the core at XTX 3D speeds is about 11 hours per WU, so something is amiss.

You said you have it at 3D speeds right? Do you have a whole core of your CPU dedicated to the GPU (no other clients using it)?

unless i am crazy

7 hours * 60 minutes per hour = 420 minutes

420 minutes / 68 steps = 6.18 minutes per step

so that is 618 minutes to complete a WU or 10.3 hours.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

That's pretty good, although the client flies when you get the core close to 800mhz. :D :toast:

[SparkyJJO]

.... sorry bad math :slap: me
I wasn't awake when I did that :rolleyes:

[mad mikee]

Heard small 'squish' going over 'DragonOrtaConroe' yesterday I think :D
Speaking of which where are those chips for 'upgrading' :D

And a note to ALL XSTM members:

ALL you have to do is put XS_THE_MACHINE for member name and 36362 for the team when you start up.

Setting up for another 1100+ PPD next week I hope here.

Heater YHPM RE: Sat Afternoon.

Jose is Good Guy :D

Good to hear that Diablo is running with us, Jose!

You joined under a sub-team? I wonder which one that might be.:idea:

Heater, when is The Machine going to start chasing me down? I've been trying to chase ShootStraight, but his Mini Army is too much for me. :D :slobber:

[heater918]

This race is winnable :fact: XS DC community needs a little more help on F@H, if you could throw a box on it would help. :toast: XS DCers do not like loosing a challenge :fact:

[pythagoras]

Thats why we are the best:fact: . Proud of you guys, AND IT WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN:toast:

Regards

John.

Wow, just realised that could be misinterpreted, when I said we are the best, I of course meant XS dc'ers as a whole.

[[XC] moddolicous]

Thats why we are the best:fact: . Proud of you guys, AND IT WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN:toast:

Regards

John.

Wow, just realised that could be misinterpreted, when I said we are the best, I of course meant XS dc'ers as a whole.
Hey long time no see Pythagoras. Well, we really do owe it to you guys for D2OL and Rosetta. This is just us repaying our debts. One hand washes the other.

[pythagoras]

TPR will hit their target in 8 days, at our current rate we will do that at 17 days. So anything you can spare for 8 days would be greatly appreciated. Lets show them what XS can do in a week:D

Regards

John.

[[XC] gomeler]

Gah, I'm convinced, when I get home tomorrow night I'll throw my 8GHz at F@H although I can't guarantee anything as the power at home has been flaky and I won't be home to turn stuff back on if it goes out :(

[DDTUNG]

TPR will hit their target in 8 days, at our current rate we will do that at 17 days. So anything you can spare for 8 days would be greatly appreciated. Lets show them what XS can do in a week:D

Regards

John.

John,

If I hadn't sworn never to return to F@H I would be bringing my entire farm to help. Anyway I wish you and the F@H team the best, and Happy Holidays.:toast:

DDTUNG:cool:

[pythagoras]

John,

If I hadn't sworn never to return to F@H I would be bringing my entire farm to help. Anyway I wish you and the F@H team the best, and Happy Holidays.:toast:

DDTUNG:cool:

I understand Victor and I have zero problems with that;) Wishing you the best.

Regards

John.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

Mikee, I think it's time for us to get ShootStraight in our sights. :D

I've now got an X1900GT coming from Newegg that I'll pop into another machine the minute it gets here. I just have to figure out what machine that will be.

On a side note, I'm going to have to hold off on sending you those chips, they're just putting up too many points when they're needed right now.

[heater918]

@ Dragon Are you going to wave as you pass yourself by :D

[[XC] DragonOrta]

@ Dragon Are you going to wave as you pass yourself by :D

It looks like it will be a few days until I have to do that. :D

Was it your opty that was giving us that mass of WUs I asked everyone about earlier? It looks like Mikee is going to have a line for his core "upgrade services." :D

[heater918]

Here is what they are saying about us. I don't like it.

I've got to hand it to you guys , you don't give up easily - but I still recon you're going to take a beating :slapass: you need to average at least 130k for the next 7 days and I don't think your other teams have it in them to help you that much ;)