OCZ Phase coverage: Anandtech will be first?

[mtl_hed]

So, i was looking over the Anandtech Pre-CES coverage after noticing this thread:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=125918


....And i noticed this on the second page of Anand's article:

Both of these water blocks are targeted at enthusiasts utilizing high end-dual and quad core CPUs. We will also look at their new Phase Change system in our next article.

They brushed over it so slightly that it only recieved 1 sentence?!?

So either this was a slip of the tounge, or we will be seeing a OCZ phase review/preview in the near future.


Another link to the Anand article if you missed it:
http://anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2883&p=1

[ether.real]

About dang time. Heard about this like a year ago and then it disappeared....

[exhausted mule]

that's interesting. glad to hear ocz is still persuing the project.

though... i'msure the targetted price will be far from its original expectation i'm sure it'll be competitive in that departement in comparison to the other availabe systems on the market currently.

[Omastar]

that's interesting. glad to hear ocz is still persuing the project.

though... i'msure the targetted price will be far from its original expectation i'm sure it'll be competitive in that departement in comparison to the other availabe systems on the market currently.

It better be cheaper than Vapochill Lightspeeds; because for the performance you get, those things are priced too damn high. OMG -8C UNDER LOAD WITH 1.55VCORE YAY! ;)

[exhausted mule]

It better be cheaper than Vapochill Lightspeeds; because for the performance you get, those things are priced too damn high. OMG -8C UNDER LOAD WITH 1.55VCORE YAY! ;)

yeah but the thing is vapochills will most likely last longer than ocz's counterpart.

and they can charge more as well since their only competition atm is the mach2. which sells for a bit more i think.

so as long as the general customer base continues to purchase at the price they'll sell.

personally i dont think it's too much for what you get.


but i'd still go for a custom unit since quality and performance is easier done on a small scale.

[metro.cl]

its already been reviewed in a couple of websites

hardwaresecret did a review long time ago

[mtl_hed]

its already been reviewed in a couple of websites

hardwaresecret did a review long time ago



You mean the damaged pre-production prototype that a brazilian site "reviewed" without OCZ's permission?

Yeah, the OCZ rep(i dont remember his alias) posted that info in the thread about it. I tried searching for that thread, its either closed(lots of flaming) or I missed it.

EDIT: This is the "review" -> http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/377

The very cold air produced by the equipment is blown to a copper block that is attached on top of the CPU.

Yeah, I'm gonna listen to that guy drop a knowledge bomb on thermodynamics... :rolleyes:

[Omastar]

You mean the damaged pre-production prototype that a brazilian site "reviewed" without OCZ's permission?

Yeah, the OCZ rep(i dont remember his alias) posted that info in the thread about it. I tried searching for that thread, its either closed(lots of flaming) or I missed it.

EDIT: This is the "review" -> http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/377



Yeah, I'm gonna listen to that guy drop a knowledge bomb on thermodynamics... :rolleyes:

XD I remember that review. So, so bad.

[ether.real]

That only looks like half of a review.....where is the rest of it?

[RyderOCZ]

yeah but the thing is vapochills will most likely last longer than ocz's counterpart.What would make you say that?

[RyderOCZ]

You mean the damaged pre-production prototype that a brazilian site "reviewed" without OCZ's permission?It had nothing to do with permission.
He was visiting California, came to OCZ and we let him take pictures, he didn't review anything, he simply got to see what was in the lab.
Yep it was the old Beta unit we had at CES last January, which had been recharged, but the case, etc did have some dings and dents.
Nobody did anything wrong and he had our permission to post the pictures.

[NapalmV5]

Ryder, so, when? my $ is ready :)

[EnJoY]

common sense

Well common sense tells me you have no idea what you're talking about which would explain your uneducated comments.

Do you know who Chilly1 is? And do you know who OCZ had design their upcoming phase-change unit? :rolleyes:

[EnJoY]

I do know yes.

And if i'm not mistaken opinions are not forbidden, so keep you comments about "Uneducated".

If you don't justify your comments, especially those as vague as saying "common sense" to something like that, you leave yourself open to flames and criticism. Now I have and had no intention of flaming you, and I hope you didn't take it that way. However, it appears to me that you must not know anything about the OCZ phase unit, or you would not have made that comment or had that "oppinion". But I shall leave you to it.

[nn_step]

RyderOCZ when do we finally get to play with OCZ phase?

[exhausted mule]

If you don't justify your comments, especially those as vague as saying "common sense" to something like that, you leave yourself open to flames and criticism. Now I have and had no intention of flaming you, and I hope you didn't take it that way. However, it appears to me that you must not know anything about the OCZ phase unit, or you would not have made that comment or had that "oppinion". But I shall leave you to it.

to clear it up a little bit enjoy...

i'm said that since the catch in this phase change originaly was the price.

when you build something in a marketing standpoint where price is the selling point. most often everything else comes in second.

its well known it takes money to produce good quality units that will last last. we see original mach2's and vapo's still running (and selling) today, with the advertised price ocz released with their first unit it tells me something had to be sacrificed in order to release such an affordable unit....

now wether that's performance, quality or reliability we'll eventually see (i hope)

that's what i think.

(cudos to you ocz if you can pull a good balance of all three and beat out the current contenders)

AT least make em think about their future products.

:)


P.S. enjoy, i hope your a top engineer at OCZ otherwise your really looking like an idiot right now....

[Noob-ftw]

Might want to look at this boys:

:D

http://vr-zone.com/?i=4359&s=2

[exhausted mule]

anxious to see what compressor its using......

[mtl_hed]

rotary ofcourse :D

I hope that was a joke. As VR says:
Exact refrigerant and specs of compressor not known now, but it is probably a blend of R507.

But, from the pictures, its probably not a rotary. Its recip.

[mtl_hed]

Kinda like SONY vs Microsoft, sony still handles the cepter...



Ummm... so did Sega hand the sceptre to Sony in '95?

Your logic is flawed.

[jonnyGURU]

Ummm... so did Sega hand the sceptre to Sony in '95?


Considering Sega's effort of the time was the "Saturn" for $100 more than a Playstation and that Sega was still recovering from two failed Genesis hardware expansions (Sega CD and Sega 32X), yeah... you could say that.

But don't look at me... I still have a ColecoVision and a TurboGrafx 16.

[EnJoY]

P.S. enjoy, i hope your a top engineer at OCZ otherwise your really looking like an idiot right now....

I don't have to be an OCZ engineer to know a lot that you don't know about the product. But hey, I'm just an idiot. ;)

[Praxis1452]

Why exactly would OCZ's last longer? PallMall?

Perhaps you should explain. Either put up or shut up. It's as simple as that. Making single statements and then pretending that's just "dandy" is crap. Either say something about price and quality or just don't post.

[DilTech]

Ummm... so did Sega hand the sceptre to Sony in '95?

Your logic is flawed.


Actually, Nintendo was the champion there before sony, not sega.

The Sega Genesis sold 30.75 million units, the Snes sold 49.10 million...

With al due respect no matter how big a company is, then cannot just step and become "the product"

Kinda like SONY vs Microsoft, sony still handles the cepter...

That's what i meant with common sense, being realistic about the competition.

I'm sure OCZ is aware of that ;)

Going by the same logic you are.

Atari handed over to nintendo, with the nintendo being a first run for the company in the console.

Nintendo handed up to sony, with sony being a first run company in the console market.

Upstarts actually do manage to topple the competition from time to time.

[thunderstruck!]

RyderOCZ when do we finally get to play with OCZ phase?
Don't expect to have this answered anytime soon. As far as I'm concerned, it's vapourware.

[ahmad]

I hope it is not... I don't feel like shelling $1k just to cool my CPU.

[Tony]

Don't expect to have this answered anytime soon. As far as I'm concerned, it's vapourware.

LOL, wait till you see Fugger review it ;)

[Tony]

MSRP we are hoping is 400US although this may change

[ahmad]

MSRP we are hoping is 400US although this may change

Higher or lower?

[Praxis1452]

phase change at $400... hmm if it launches before febuary I might have to change the plans on my air cooled tec. bleh choices :(

[arisythila]

Why exactly would OCZ's last longer? PallMall?

Perhaps you should explain. Either put up or shut up. It's as simple as that. Making single statements and then pretending that's just "dandy" is crap. Either say something about price and quality or just don't post.


He probably just bought a Vapochill for 900 dollars from newegg... HAHAHA

Anything better/cheaper right now damn well better not last as long... ;-)

~Mike

[OCFX]

400US although this may change

please..don´t :D

[Timmay]

That only looks like half of a review.....where is the rest of it?

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/377

??

nope sorry my bad.

[JuanFlaiter]

RyderOCZ when do we finally get to play with OCZ phase?

CES: OCZ Overclockerfest? :banana:

[NapalmV5]

MSRP we are hoping is 400US although this may change

can it handle QX6700 @ 4GHz?

[dinos22]

phase change at $400... hmm if it launches before febuary I might have to change the plans on my air cooled tec. bleh choices :(
LOOOOOOL!

[EnJoY]

can it handle QX6700 @ 4GHz?

Can a VapoChill?

[NapalmV5]

Can a VapoChill?

ok, we have approx. of $ and cooling

now, at least a time frame, when?

[iddqd]

This could be a stepping stone. Replace a couple parts, use a different refrigerant blend and you can sell a higher end unit for $500, based off the already mass produced $400 unit.

Still cheaper than getting a custom build unit, unless you buid it yourself.

[Revv23]

not only that, depending on what hardware is used the custom builders could sell these to people modded at $100-200 more...

That is if the base stuff is good.

[mtl_hed]

http://anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2887&p=2

Although this unit has been discussed for the past year, OCZ assures us the unit is now in the final stages of design work and will be introduced early next year at a street price of around $400.

From the pic, its looks to be the same case as the prototype shown on hardware secrets. Probably re-worked guts though, the suction line looks shorter than the pics on HS, and the mounting bracket looks different too.

[ahmad]

Certainly doesn't look mass produced, but it is a start.

[punisher69]

OMG, that insulation idea of using silicon on the motherboard looks horrible. :mad: Should have used Black liquid electrical tape, or clear nail polish, along with some neoprene. ;)