$85 barebones system for AMD setups :p

[STEvil]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856121015

Good buy if you've got a spare cpu sitting around probably :D

[Martijn]

That is cheap... bummer I live in Europe. Well, not too bad actually, I need to buy myself a videocard :D

[mad mikee]

looks to be a simple mod. :hehe:

Too bad I have now room, etc for yet another computer (YAC) :(

[[XC] gomeler]

Hrm.. wonder how well the 6100 series boards overclock, if I could get an X2 up to 2.8 GHz and just toss this in a closet.. cheap $300 cruncher. Then again I could buy a cheap C2D system for $450 and get much better clocks and results :-\

[2fink]

6100 clocks like nforce4 :) really good chipset and normally good boards!

[nn_step]

no proc
no memory
no hard drive
just case, mobo and PSU.
Fortunately soon you will not need a hard drive anymore.
USB flash drives will become the new source of power

[STEvil]

$25 for 512mb flash drives here. Love 'em :D

[Movieman]

looks to be a simple mod. :hehe:

Too bad I have now room, etc for yet another computer (YAC) :(
LOL, I assume you meant "no" room..Otherwise Mike ol buddy ol pal, you might want to think on a woodcrest or clover setup..Pure monsters pal!:fact:

[Fr3ak]

the 6100 for S939 is actually not a good overclocker. The 410/6100 for S754 is the best S754 chipset out. The AM2 version is also quite good, but the S939 is often limited at around 270mhz FSB where the S754 can do 350+.

[[XC] gomeler]

Meh, 270 FSB is so 2004 :p:

[p0tter]

Ive personally worked w/ 2 Biostar 6100 Tforces that did 300HTT.

[rcofell]

Ive personally worked w/ 2 Biostar 6100 Tforces that did 300HTT.
Btw, what could you get out of your RS482? Most I can seem to get is ~315HTT, which sounds in line with the norm from what I've seen.

[nn_step]

I vote we create the Crunching per Dollar project.
We just need to calculate the best Combo Mobo and Proc, crunching Power Per Dollar

[STEvil]

wow... prices went down on the flash drives around here!!

$20 for 512MB, $90 for 4GB!!

[nn_step]

what if it was possible to buy Computers for $97? (in 1,000 quanity )

[[XC] Jaco]

only 97 bucks :slobber:

what computer do you get for that price?

[[XC] hipno650]

I vote we create the Crunching per Dollar project.
We just need to calculate the best Combo Mobo and Proc, crunching Power Per Dollar
i vote for this project!!!!!!! i have been looking into the best cheap cruncher and have settled on a 3800x2 (opty 165 for 939 as ddr is cheaper than ddr2) or e6300

[[XC] gomeler]

Well if we are using used parts then I'd believe a s939 dual-core with 1 gig of DDR would probably win out as it would be dirt cheap. If using only new parts, an E63 along with a sub-$100 board and cheap DDR2-667 would offer some intense performance/price ratios.

[nn_step]

Alright after doing some research I have found a way to get $100 computers(minus drives and monitor/keyboard/mouse)
http://www.norhtec.com/products/mcjr/index.html
in 1,000+ quantities, the cost is just $99 Shipped ($97 shipped to me and $2 to ship it anywhere in the US)
And doing some studies on the Performance/Dollar I am going to need some information. Conroe Stock and Overclocked to 3Ghz Scores. Any other scores such as Single cores or X2 scores at various speeds. Will be helpful. But it is kind of hard to do some math without them.
thank you

[[XC] hipno650]

the best i can do is a 3800x2 set up because you can get a onbaord video mobo that ocs well (according to Fr3ak) and 3800x2 is cheaper than the e6300. but it's about $300 cad for a 3800x2 and an onboard vid mobo (asus) and 1gb of ok ram (mushkin em) which is abit much to buy in bulk without psu's cases, and hdds. even tho some of those things are not needed.

and the only type of wu's those little boxes could do would be the new gnome wu's that need 60mb and a 160mhz proc. but i think a $300 amd box at 2.6 or more could school 3 of those mini things. but a good idea nn_step.

[[XC] gomeler]

Hmm x86 compatible processor.. no moving parts.. sounds like we are talking about a sub-500MHz processor that may not even be as efficiet as the ULV mobile procs. While having a 1000 of them would be pretty powerful, for ~3 times the price you can get a ~2.8Ghz conroe. Would be interesting to see how those perform though, have you ordered any and if so have you performed any benchies on them? Even a super pi 1M and 32M would be helpful. Once I remove my optimized client from crunching QMC@H I'll supply some BOINC benchies at stock and overclocked speeds w/ an E64.

edit: would be nice to crack one open and see if there is any room for improvements. Another route for cheap sff crunchers would be used intel mac mini's running windows, I've looked into just the core duo based minis and they pack quite a punch for their size and power consumption. Only problem is Mac hardware tends to stay artificially inflated in price so it may be hard to find them in large quantities at low prices.

[nn_step]

I'll be getting one in the next week, then I'll do some tests and see what they are really worth :toast:

[meshmesh]

I'll be getting one in the next week, then I'll do some tests and see what they are really worth :toast:

As per the details (http://www.norhtec.com/products/mcjr/details.html) page, these are SiS550 (http://www.sis.com/products/sis55xfamily.htm) 200Mhz SoC (System-On-Chip), x86 compatible, CPUs. Three integer units, one floating point arithmatic unit and PC133 RAM. So, I really don't know if it would be able to finish a faah WU in a reasonable time running at 200 MHz. In comparison my AMD X2 takes 4-5 hours per WU running at 2600 Mhz. So this PC running 13 times slower will take maybe three days per WU.

For $900 an E6400 @ 3.2 may crunch 36 faah WUs in those same three day, so this micro PC is very expensive, especially that it comes without a HD (the cheepest would be $35 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822152047) shipped). On a price performance ratio, it is worth $25 max IMO.

this machine however will do a great POS / dump terminal, but no more.

[nn_step]

Alright basic setups
X2 3800+ $135
BIOSTAR NF61VM2 $60.12
subtotal:195.12


E6300 $181
Intel BLKD946GZISSL $90.63
subtotal:271.63

Both are dual cores and both are on good chipsets with integrated graphics.
The question is what scores would they get?

[[XC] hipno650]

that intel board can't oc i don't think so that makes it totally usless. and we should look into a good 1GB ram kit (dual channel of course) that can oc both of them for a good price.

heres something for us Canadians:
- http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10360BD3363
- http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530BD8502

for $278 cad

and you might need on of these to:
- http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10450AC6654

and maybe some of this stuff to:
- http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=13000BD0352

for a grand total of 433.90 (free shipping)

a bit much but a fine cruncher

[meshmesh]

I look at it a bit differently:
AMD: X2 3800+ setup: MB + CPU + RAM = 357 USD
Intel E6400 setup: P5B deluxe + E6400 + Corsiar 6400C4 + Cheep VGA = $600

Common to both setups: HS + Case + PSU + HD + fans = $200 (assume linux OS)

So total cost of system: AMD $557, C2D $800

The question then becomes a price performance ratio. I think this C2D E6400 setup would produce 6500 points per day. Don't know about AMD though.
Will the AMD system produce more or less than 70% of the C2D production? If more then it is better, if less then the C2D wins.