OCZ Graphics Cards

[StyM]

source here (http://www.vr-zone.com/index.php?i=4351)


http://resources.vr-zone.com/Shamino/oczshow/8.jpg

below is a liquid cooled memory module...
http://resources.vr-zone.com/Shamino/oczshow/4.jpg

[alexio]

That was unexpected indeed! Hope they will have voltage adjustment options.

[nn_step]

strangely enough I like that

[turbox997]

Wonder if Mushkin will follow the trend too...

[GrimReaper]

:rolleyes: what will be next? BFG and EVGA MEMORY sticks? :rolleyes:

[Nedjo]

“The Way It’s Meant To Be Sold”

Today anyone with enough money and marketing respectability could sign a deal with NVIDIA, and could start selling VGA’s. Point is that all the big e-retail names like BFG, EVGA, and now OCZ, do not manufacture cards! NVIDA sells them full cards in cooperation with manufacturing partners. There’s not much of them, and who they are is held as business secret.

Same business NVIDIA is trying to pull of with the 680i motherboards. eVGA was the first, but ECS was unexpectedly showed it self with the same mobo reviling who the manufacturing partner is.

[zakelwe]

Very interesting news indeed. I wonder how much from the norm their cards will differ ? Hopefully it will not just be a different sticker like the majority of 8800's.

Regards

Andy

[Ibinco]

Very interesting news indeed. I wonder how much from the norm their cards will differ ? Hopefully it will not just be a different sticker like the majority of 8800's.

Regards

Andy

Im afraid this is the case 99% of the time. All reference...some with different coolers and slightly higher clocks.

[k0nsl]

Very interesting news indeed. I wonder how much from the norm their cards will differ ? Hopefully it will not just be a different sticker like the majority of 8800's.

Regards

Andy

My guess is they will be a different sticker and a custom cooler...

-k0nsl

[BenchZowner]

My guess is they will be a different sticker and a custom cooler...

-k0nsl

True ( will have to confirm that though :D )
But, there's RMA Services aswell :)
And OCZ is quite good at it

[gundamit]

I wonder if OCZ has enough "juice" and projected sales volume to get Nvidia give them a custom cooler and a unique PCB color from Nvidia's manufacturing partner? OCZ may have enough brand identity to secure a portion of the market, but do they have something up their sleeve that will make them a leader in the video card market?

[BenchZowner]

I wonder if OCZ has enough "juice" and projected sales volume to get Nvidia give them a custom cooler and a unique PCB color from Nvidia's manufacturing partner? OCZ may have enough brand identity to secure a portion of the market, but do they have something up their sleeve that will make them a leader in the video card market?

Well, as a consumer I wouldn't mind the PCB color.
Standard let it be [ though I'd like a black one :D ].
Custom cooler from nVIDIA ? Don't think so ( and it's def. not money related )
Custom cooler from Arctic Cooling ? Easy :D [ Hint "Avoid Accelero-like designs, preffer DHES ] { DHES = Direct Heat Exhaust System }

Warranty period, RMA Service, Tech Support, and maybe speed-binning would help a lot, and give OCZ an "edge".

[Johnny Bravo]

Ah the joys of branding, thing is how many manufacturers are actually making their own designs anymore?

[LowRun]

Hope they won't go with their trend to sometimes favor bling-bling over efficiency.

[ANP !!!]

woah... some good news :D

[Celcius]

That was totally unexpected...hopefully these will be some good cards.

[p0tter]

8800gxtc anyone ?

[Yoxxy]

8800 GTX Gold, Platinum, then TI Version 2 weeks later.

[thephenom]

It's not that surprising, I mean Crucial did it before with some ATI cards.

[metro.cl]

Wonder if Mushkin will follow the trend too...

dont think so, mushkin said no to cpu coolers a while back. they are focused in getting the big comp manufacturers to buy mushkin ram

[arisythila]

YES! They back again!

[onewingedangel]

Hopefully they will be more than just a sticker on a reference card.

[Vapor]

Oh man, this is some sweet news....and I also hope that it'll be more than a sticker, but if a sticker is what nV wants, a sticker is what nV gets.

EDIT:
:hrhr: :wasntme:
WOOOO!!!!

[RyderOCZ]

Warranty period, RMA Service, Tech Support, and maybe speed-binning would help a lot, and give OCZ an "edge".:hrhr: :wasntme:

[alexio]

:hrhr: :wasntme:
That's what I'm talking about :cool:

[BenchZowner]

:hrhr: :wasntme:
Heh, where's Joey when I need him :D
Officially confirmed then, can't wait can't wait!

[ether.real]

The main thing with brand is support. Therefore I fully support this. OCZ rocks!

[RyderOCZ]

Officially confirmed then, can't wait can't wait!:eek: There was nothing official about that statement....you can't hold me to any of that...it would be against the rules. ;) ;) ;) :D

[BenchZowner]

:eek: There was nothing official about that statement....you can't hold me to any of that...it would be against the rules. :rolleyes: ;) :D

I'm not talking about speed-binning.
I meant that it's confirmed that OCZ will release VGAs :)

[Nedjo]

Warranty period, RMA Service, Tech Support, and maybe speed-binning would help a lot, and give OCZ an "edge".
OCZ can’t bin memory, nor the GPU! NVIDIA is selling them whole card!

Don’t know what exactly can they bring new with RMA, and tech support, that hasn’t been already offered by some other e-tailers?

[BenchZowner]

OCZ can’t bin memory, nor the GPU! NVIDIA is selling them whole card!

Don’t know what exactly can they bring new with RMA, and tech support, that hasn’t been already offered by some other e-tailers?

1) Think again what I said about OCZ speed-binning the VGAs.
"Pre-tested" cards, categorized, resulting in higher average OC

2) OCZ RMA is what I'd call real fast ( ok, after Plextor's RMA though :D ).
1 week total RMA average.

3) Extended warranty ? [ maybe ]

p.s. at first most of the nV GF8800 cards were manuf. by Asus :)

[[XC] leviathan18]

if ocz makes mobo i know i can buy the whole thing from ocz psu ram mobo and gpu without thinking it twice i love ocz

[MaxxxRacer]

Ryder, are you guys going to do anything special with the pcb design or will it be reference standard? and how about the coolers?

[Nedjo]

You simply don’t get it! OCZ, or any other e-tailer, can’t do a thing with reference design! They don’t have expertise, or any other way to influence REAL manufacturer!

It’s all about marketing, not technology. It’s the way the NVIDIA is doing the business.

Don’t get me wrong I think its’ good to have another NVIDIA reseller on the market, but don’t have false expectations. All that OCZ can do is to change sticker on the cooler!

I would love them to surprise me, but I will not hold my breath.

[Tiesto]

You simply don’t get it! OCZ, or any other e-tailer, can’t do a thing with reference design! They don’t have expertise, or any other way to influence REAL manufacturer!

It’s all about marketing, not technology. It’s the way the NVIDIA is doing the business.

Don’t get me wrong I think its’ good to have another NVIDIA reseller on the market, but don’t have false expectations. All that OCZ can do is to change sticker on the cooler!

I would love them to surprise me, but I will not hold my breath.

Maybe they could do what Gainward and MSI have done in the past and design a custom PCB.....

[biohead]

Maybe they could do what Gainward and MSI have done in the past and design a custom PCB.....
design... maybe. but would have to let someone else manufacture it.

[XSAlliN]

Hope they don't repeat the same mistake, like they did whit PSU - looking nice but not that reliable as others for the same price (Enermax,etc), since memory is their domain we might see some good ram on their VGA ;)

[Nedjo]

Use common sense! They’re not produces of memory chips you can find on graphics card. They can’t bin those chips! They’re buying complete cards!

[BenchZowner]

ou simply don’t get it! OCZ, or any other e-tailer, can’t do a thing with reference design! They don’t have expertise, or any other way to influence REAL manufacturer!

It’s all about marketing, not technology. It’s the way the NVIDIA is doing the business.

Don’t get me wrong I think its’ good to have another NVIDIA reseller on the market, but don’t have false expectations. All that OCZ can do is to change sticker on the cooler!

Ok, before I start hitting my head against the wall, I'll try making it easier to understand...once.


1) They can pre-test the GPUs and split them in two "categories", "platinum" [ more overclocking potential than "average Joe GPUs" and "gold" [ "normal" GPUs, less than the platinum ones oc potential ]

2) They can easily do the same on the VRAM...they can also have the "platinum" editions equipped with the best OC potential ICs [ still the same ICs like every single GF8800, but "binned" ]

Use common sense! They’re not produces of memory chips you can find on graphics card.

Nobody said that.

They’re buying complete cards!

You sound so sure.
Perhaps you got a source in OCZ ?
If not, then keep your ears & eyes open, and don't make such statements [ or at least say that they're just your speculations ]

friendly ( no offense )
BZ

[Nedjo]

friendly ( no offense )
BZ

o'corse, we’re just arguing. I don't have contacts in OCZ, but do have in NVIDIA, and some Taiwanese mobo/vga manufacturers…

Like I wrote, I would like to be surprised by OCZ, but if BFG, XFX, and eVGA, which are much closer to NVIDIA haven’t pulled out noting so far it’s hard do expect that OCZ will make some change in their favor.

OCZ can’t pretest GPU’s. NVIDIA could, but it would raise price per GPU, and that’s why they don’t want to do that for time being.

Since GDDR3 is not sold separately from the GPU (for the fact, majority of the popular brands are buying COMPLETE cards), OCZ can’t bin memory also.

[RyderOCZ]

Nedjo,

Without going into a lot of detail (NDA's, etc) it can be done to a certain extent, not quite on the same level as binning IC's for ram, but similar.

[Nedjo]

That’s good to hear. I guess you can demand from the contractor cards with the revision of the memory chips that you know are of better quality.
This thread has proven that you guys are bringing to NVIDIA even more of “good word echoing” ;) There’s no doubt that this is favorite tune to their ears :)

Keep up the good work!

[thephenom]

It would work selling "special edition" cards, but isn't NVIDIA bullying everyone not allowing them to sell pre-overclocked cards?

[BenchZowner]

It would work selling "special edition" cards, but isn't NVIDIA bullying everyone not allowing them to sell pre-overclocked cards?

We're talking about "binned" cards, not pre-overclocked.

[ notes: none of my posts are based on official OCZ info or so ]

[XSAlliN]

Use common sense! They’re not produces of memory chips you can find on graphics card. They can’t bin those chips! They’re buying complete cards!

Were do they say that? - if that would be case, then it's useless - I fought they could bring something new, and I still believe they can something like BFG whit a touch of OCZ ;)

[cantankerous]

Any idea when the first cards from OCZ are due to hit shops?

[BenchZowner]

We're talking about "binned" cards, not pre-overclocked.

[ notes: none of my posts are based on official OCZ info or so ]

Seems like somebody's been listening :P

Follow up article by XbitLabs [ claiming that their statements came through a close to OCZ source ]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20061208134640.html

[Tiesto]

Is OCZ only working with NVIDIA or are they going work with ATI aswell?

[BenchZowner]

Is OCZ only working with NVIDIA or are they going work with ATI aswell?

Good question.
I believe that they'll be doing both, but...can't tell for sure.
Perhaps somebody ( Ryder ? :P ) from the OCZ Crew here can answer this question ( if he's allowed to ofcourse )

[Tony]

We will be working with both as far as I know.

G80 is totally controlled by NV at this time, there are rules we all must follow. Don't get me wrong we will do our best to have the fastest cards available for our customers but we also MUST follow the rules.

[Vapor]

Heck, even BFG's watercooled card is stock clocks...nV is clearly very staunch with the G80 clocks. Will be interesting to see what OCZ can do with this, especially for those of us that don't use stock clocks (probably everyone reading this thread, heh) :)

[safan80]

Heck, even BFG's watercooled card is stock clocks...nV is clearly very staunch with the G80 clocks.

doesn't matter the user can't overclock it higher than on air cooling.

[iddqd]

Heck, even BFG's watercooled card is stock clocks...nV is clearly very staunch with the G80 clocks. Will be interesting to see what OCZ can do with this, especially for those of us that don't use stock clocks (probably everyone reading this thread, heh) :)
They can probably make a naming scheme similar to what G.Skill did with TCCD; 4400LA, LB, LG, LE, LF, FF - all the same speed rating, but all different max clocks.

[nn_step]

We will be working with both as far as I know.

G80 is totally controlled by NV at this time, there are rules we all must follow. Don't get me wrong we will do our best to have the fastest cards available for our customers but we also MUST follow the rules.
do what you can to stabilize the voltage as much as possible. the Extra money would be worth the better overclock :D

[Nanometer]

I'd like to see somthing other than a reference design. I don't want to see another generic card like MSI or PNY if you catch my drift.

[iddqd]

I'd like to see somthing other than a reference design. I don't want to see another generic card like MSI or PNY if you catch my drift.
Designing your own PCB is going to be expensive, and probably inferior to reference design anyway.

Abit proved this a couple yearso ago.

[nn_step]

Designing your own PCB is going to be expensive, and probably inferior to reference design anyway.

Abit proved this a couple yearso ago.
but you can still tweak stock PCB for more performance.
Such as better caps, tighter tolerances

[Revv23]

im excited for whatever they do.

I hope this works out well for the OCz guys! They certainly are spreading out latley, i hope that they remain active in the community.

[iddqd]

but you can still tweak stock PCB for more performance.
Such as better caps, tighter tolerances
There are no set standards AFAIK for any manufacturer nor maximum capacitance of capacitors used for power filtering for reference design.

Edit: since they are going to make their own PCB, they could probably get it shielded (like BP808 PCB). This is going to increase the complexity (+ layers) of the PCB, and probably improve stability a little.

[XSAlliN]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=126285 - first marketing words about the performance of this cards :)

[hipro5]

Were do they say that? - if that would be case, then it's useless - I fought they could bring something new, and I still believe they can something like BFG whit a touch of OCZ ;)

I just quoting you as an example and not because of you......:D

Maybe OCZ can't bin seperately the BGA's chips or the Core itshelf BUT it can "pre-test" the cards (we all know that a year or so now only one manufacturer produces cards as for NVIDIA AND for ATI and companies stic up their own stikers ;) ) and shell "normal" ones and "GOOD" ones.......NOBODY does this for us......EVEN IF they charge a bit more for the "good" ones, they worth it coz some employ/ies will spent their time and OCZ's time and money for paying them to do so, so as to give us those "good" / "better" ones......;)