Overclocking AMD's Quad FX Platform - Hit or Miss? [Archive]

biohead

12-06-2006, 12:01 PM

seems to me that the mobo is the limiting factor. also.. stock heatsinks? come on :stick:

he didn't try low multi/high htt and he didn't try >16x multi. yea, overclocking review.

VulgarHandle

12-06-2006, 12:11 PM

Ron 61

12-06-2006, 12:22 PM

AMD will have to do more price slashing than that if they expext to sell any. Quad FX = few pros and lots and lots of cons.

Kanavit

12-06-2006, 12:25 PM

Lightman

12-06-2006, 12:30 PM

Very tempting!! But I will hold on until RD580 boards will be available! Till that time Altair might be on market, so :D

[XC] Teroedni

12-06-2006, 01:19 PM

well, according to theInq, price cuts already

FX70 $599--->$499
FX72 $799--->$699
FX74 $999--->$899

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36194

no links or quotes of course... "they heard this"

Hmm if you get the Fx70 which probably can be clocked easyily to 3ghz for $499, i might reconsider.
Thats half the price of an Intel quad system , thought the Intel does indeed clock better:)

But This is probably more Inquirer Bs

MaSell

12-06-2006, 01:37 PM

there is just something sexy about having two sockets on 1 board.

Yeeees, and two phase's, double price and 2x more time spent at selecting good cpus :D

xenolith

12-06-2006, 02:56 PM

Don't forget, you have to take into account the cost of a high quality 1KW PSU too... especially if you plan to overclock it (or should I say them?) And you may need even more watts if you want SLI/CF... does anyone even make a 1200 watt PSU yet? The biggest I know of is the Tagan TG1100-U95 1100W unit.

And I wouldn't want your monthly electric bill with one of these monsters... at least it'll help keep your room warm. :D

mr_knowitall15

12-06-2006, 03:01 PM

I hope AMD has something better in the works. Given the cost for a setup like this, taking the CPUS, mobo, and PSU required (also, am i crazy or do i remember reading that each cpu gets its own memory?) if so an extra set of RAM would be needed... Given all that i think youd be way better off with just about any mobo youd like, be it 965, 975 or 680i and a kentsfield for the money. Given the Core 2s OC potential, i dunno if this platform cant beat it... especially when you take price into consideration.. [my 2 cents]

[XC] hipno650

12-06-2006, 03:57 PM

the only thing i would consider is the fx70's if they could be oced to 3ghz. because it would make one heck of a cruncher for the world community grid. but how much will it be cad? and how much will they kenstfield 6400 be? and when will both be released? so many questions.

perkam

12-06-2006, 06:09 PM

K8L will be a double edged sword for AMD.

Yes, at one end dual K8Ls in 4x4 will mean octa core for the enthusiast market. But on the other end, one K8L quadcore will be considerably faster than a traditional K8 4x4 solution.

Perkam

nn_step

12-06-2006, 06:21 PM

Survey says "Overclocking 2P board is harder"

xlink

12-06-2006, 06:25 PM

in the past overclocking a 2P board was about impossible...

atleast on the opteron side.

nn_step

12-06-2006, 06:28 PM

in the past overclocking a 2P board was about impossible...

atleast on the opteron side.
If you think overclocking an Opteron is hard, you should try a Xeon those buggers can't even downclock

duploxxx

12-07-2006, 12:51 AM

AMD will have to do more price slashing than that if they expext to sell any. Quad FX = few pros and lots and lots of cons.

yeah right 2x 2,6 unlocked for 499 is a real bargain... the problem is the nvidia chipset, we'll just have to wait for the real ati chipset.

in the past overclocking a 2P board was about impossible...

atleast on the opteron side.

yeah sure whatever you say... tested a lot of those?

my sun u40 dual 280 hits 2,7 on stock vcore, only problem is i can't raise the vcore in bios and i would have to mod.... and you think they are hard to oc? it just took me maybe 20-30mins to set it all up and then check for stability....

awdrifter

12-07-2006, 01:16 AM

Does the multi unlock up on these Quad FX CPU's? If they do, the FX-70 might not be a bad deal after the price cut.

Lightman

12-07-2006, 03:18 AM

Does the multi unlock up on these Quad FX CPU's? If they do, the FX-70 might not be a bad deal after the price cut.

They are unlocked, that's why we call them FX!! :p:

awdrifter

12-07-2006, 03:35 AM

I thought they might lock the multi of the lower end Quad FX. If they are all unlocked, what's the point of getting an FX-74? Why not just get the FX-70 and up the multi, and since all FX are the best chips, they should all oc around the same right? $500 (after price cut) for 3ghz and 4 cores doesn't sound too bad.

gOJDO

12-07-2006, 04:34 AM

$500 (after price cut) for 3ghz and 4 cores doesn't sound too bad.
What price cut?:rolleyes:
AMD pricing list was updated two days ago. The MSRP for quanty over 1000 paris of FX-70 is $599. For end users on the market, expect this price to be higher, $700-$900
AMD Processor Pricing
Effective 5th December 2006

Prices below are subject to change without notice. This listing reflects pricing for direct AMD customers in 1000-unit tray quantities, except when designated as PIB quantities.The below prices do not include VAT and any other local taxes, if applicable.
Athlon 64 FX-70 (64-bit, 2.6GHz, Dedicated 2MB L2 cache, 2000MHz HyperTransport bus, Socket 1207FX) $599/pair
http://www.amd.com/gb-uk/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_609,00.html

@Vulgarhandle
Better not to use the_INQ as any source of technical information or fact. It is credible as much as Sharikou's blog.
Is it logical that AMD will change their prices a day after they have published their offcial price list?

VulgarHandle

12-07-2006, 07:00 AM

@Vulgarhandle
Better not to use the_INQ as any source of technical information or fact. It is credible as much as Sharikou's blog.
Is it logical that AMD will change their prices a day after they have published their offcial price list?
the problem is that you assume I think what they write is from AMD's mouth, which if you read my post, i interjected my own doubt....

And to you I also say, better not use AMD as any source of technical information or fact. They change what they will do often.(see how pointless that is)

I do however find theInq more right than wrong, and really, there's no need to get into the reliability of a source here, you can open a thread about the credibility of theInq. I just relayed the word.

MaxxxRacer

12-07-2006, 07:30 PM

StealthyFish

12-26-2006, 09:06 PM

these Quad Fx's are actually Opterons, but if they can hit 3.2ghz and run at 40-47c, then these new Quad FX's should give C2D a run for the money. there is just something sexy about having two sockets on 1 board.

I hope you realize that the Kentsfield has already proven itself to run at 3.66ghz with a jump of 1x multiplier from 9x to 10x... that's pretty good. that FX may struggle and finally reach 3.2ghz, but with the kentsfield at 3.66, the FX-74 at 3.2 will be demolished by the kentsfield.

cronic

12-26-2006, 10:09 PM

reminds me of the old abit bp6 days..........ah the memories

MrDeeds

12-26-2006, 10:18 PM

I hope you realize that the Kentsfield has already proven itself to run at 3.66ghz with a jump of 1x multiplier from 9x to 10x... that's pretty good. that FX may struggle and finally reach 3.2ghz, but with the kentsfield at 3.66, the FX-74 at 3.2 will be demolished by the kentsfield.

Conventional wisdom doesnt apply when your dealing with amd extremists. They're on a jihad war against intel.

grimREEFER

12-26-2006, 10:28 PM

wow, idk whats more shocking, the fact that someone has amd quad fx system or that someone has a thermaltake armor case. jk, the case isnt that bad lol.

biohead

12-27-2006, 12:29 AM

Conventional wisdom doesnt apply when your dealing with amd extremists. They're on a jihad war against intel.
They aren't attacking Intel, they're just defending their own pride. From a buy-what's-best point of view, fanboyism is utterly rediculous, but as Intel fanboys seem to be crapping AMD threads over and over again, I think AMD 'fanboys' have the right to 'defend' (or whatever to call it) in a way, after all those A64/P4 years. I can't remember AMD users striking on Intel threads and crapping the Intel section all the time.

btw.. Useless thread revival anyone? :rolleyes:

gn0s1s

12-27-2006, 04:31 AM

Hmm if you get the Fx70 which probably can be clocked easyily to 3ghz for $499, i might reconsider.
Thats half the price of an Intel quad system , thought the Intel does indeed clock better:)

But This is probably more Inquirer Bs

fx 70 is apparently 380$ now :) http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/12/22/price_performance_analysis_12_22_2006/page2.html

informal

12-27-2006, 04:41 AM

wow, idk whats more shocking, the fact that someone has amd quad fx system or that someone has a thermaltake armor case. jk, the case isnt that bad lol.

:rolleyes:
Coming from a guy with a little furnace known as PentD,it's really an amusing comment.

nn_step

12-27-2006, 04:46 AM

fx 70 is apparently 380$ now :) http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/12/22/price_performance_analysis_12_22_2006/page2.html
God I love price wars

gOJDO

12-27-2006, 05:13 AM

fx 70 is apparently 380$ now :) http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/12/22/price_performance_analysis_12_22_2006/page2.html
Well, that is nice. I want to see more and cheaper 4x4 mainboards before I can start thinking about it.

informal

12-27-2006, 05:21 AM

Here's two shops where FX70 can be bought for 340 bucks (when in stock naturaly).
http://www.wiredzone.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=32004234&source=froogle

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ADAFX70DIBOX-AMD

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gOJDO

12-27-2006, 08:31 AM

Here's two shops where FX70 can be bought for 340 bucks (when in stock naturaly).haha?
BTW,
SPECIFICATIONS

Type / Form Factor : AMD Athlon 64 FX 70
Multi-Core Technology : Dual-Core
64-bit Computing : Yes
Processor Qty : 1 :rolleyes:
Clock Speed : 2.6 GHz
Compatible Processor Socket : Socket F (1207)
Core Voltage : 1.35 V/1.4 V
Manufacturing Process : 90 nm
Thermal Design Power : 125 W
Thermal Specification : 63 °C
Cache Memory : Installed Size: L2 cache - 2 MB ( 2 x 1 MB )
Compatible Slots : 1 x processor - Socket F
Included Accessories : Cooler (fansink)
Package Type : AMD Processor in a Box (PIB)
http://www.wiredzone.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=32004234&source=froogle

biohead

12-27-2006, 09:22 AM

Time for them to actually understand what the hell they're selling and putting down the right information on their website.

informal

12-27-2006, 09:55 AM

haha?

I just copy /pasted the info which said that it's 2xDual Core.
You quoted the specs for each chip(at least it looks that way to me)

http://www.wiredzone.com/viewcart.asp?CartId=13869971-ACCWARE-XOBLW30&m_ReturnValue=0+32004234
So basicly they say 1 box (for quantity) ,and we know the chips are sold within the box,don't we ?I mean,AMD sells them packed in pairs within boxes...
BTW this price fits in THG "price watch",since they rated FX70 at 380 bucks(probably at online stores).Or you think that the retailers unpack the boxes ,"play around" with the chips and then state that they sell them separatly just to confuse us?

gOJDO

12-27-2006, 10:49 AM

I think, they never had any FX-7x in stock. Pay attention on the MSRP price, it is 60 bucks higher than the price for the end user. WTF?

informal

12-27-2006, 11:00 AM

I think, they never had any FX-7x in stock. Pay attention on the MSRP price, it is 60 bucks higher than the price for the end user. WTF?

It's nothing new actualy(as for the unusual prices).

Check this out:
http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/11498

Processor

AMD price
ZZF price
Athlon 64 X2 3800+ $152.00 $130.50
Athlon 64 X2 4200+ $187.00 $163.50
Athlon 64 X2 4600+ $240.00 $201.80
Athlon 64 X2 5000+ $301.00 $261.00
Athlon 64 X2 5200+ $403.00 $278.80

So how do you explain those prices ??:rolleyes:

edit: More IN STOCK 5200+ for ridiculously low prices
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80962-8&prodlist=pricegrabber
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103759&ATT=19-103-759&CMP=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r
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