EVGA 680i SLI board is killing ram.

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

I have 2 kits of G.Skill 6400HZ and i have lost 1 stick from each kit. 1 of the sticks that died has never been overvolted.

Here is some compaints and stories


Originally posted by Dayofpain
[br]heres a nice piece of ****.

4x DOMINATOR PC8888 FRIED
4X DOMINATOR PC8500 FRIED
2X OCZ TITIANIUM PC8000 FRIED.

Im going to return this pos to newegg. (the mobo)

First mobo.

http://www.evga.com/community/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21557&SearchTerms=dayofpain


Second mobo.

Installed last night.

Have to remove power and use cmos jumper to boot EVERY SINGLE TIME. beta bios flashed. Too bad everysingle resistor on the board needed to be straightened. 2 were bent all the way to the ram slots. gfg.

cant boot cant maintain voltage. and this is one that they handpicked for an advanced rma.

later evga. 2 strikes ur out.

2 thousand dollars in ram. Thanks.



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Originally posted by palese
[br]just lost a stick of Corsair 6400C3DF in black slot, the default volt for this ram is 2.4



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Originally posted by linflas

and I have 2 GB of Gskill sitting on my desk waiting for an RMA number because one stick I know for sure has gone to the ******per, and another that I do not trust now, back to corsair for me, as soon as I get new one's back from RMA the gskill goes on ebay, and I get some better corsair stuff


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I can tell you in my case no sticks work in the right slots, all sticks work in the left slots and when a stick is put in either right slot,I get C1 and a long beep.

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Absolutely no. :) I had the same C1 problem with one of my sticks. I first thought my stick was defective because I didn't have a problem booting with my other pair. (Both pairs are exact same model, same batch)

After playing a bit with the working pair, I used canned air to blow any dirt away from the sticks and the slots. I also configured the BIOS settings to what I wanted (including Vdimm). Shut down the machine and inserted the problematic sticks, then it worked flawlessly ever since.

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[sadcat1]

The board didn't kill my ram! It doesn't work in the right side slots. It works in the left side. I know this is difficult to believe. My personal opinion is these reference boards have so many different problems, they have no idea how to fix them.

[Babsy]

i just cancelled my order just by reading this.I hope i did the right thing :)

[Dumo]

Its a difficult mobo to overclock. Other conroe's board is too easy...Set all in bios, boot to window and use clockgen, but not this 680i board.

Remember those UTT fiasco? It turned out that Nf4 board not supply enough v to memory when it post. Change the ram's spd cured it all.
680i board just came out not even 3 weeks with 1 bios revision (1333 FSB conroes not even released yet).

I ran this board almost 24/7 in 12 days straight with phase @-40/-30ish evap. overclocked (mostly @4.2Ghz 1.6Vcore) and never give me a problem.....Knock on wood.
And I killed a bunch of 975X boards because condensation or some other problem.

Give it time and keep playin with it.

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

Report of my 2 bad sticks.
Stick-1 needs 2.2v to run at stock speed and timings
Stick-2 Tried 2.1v,2.2v,2.3v At stock speeds and stock timing and BSOD just before windows.

So i have a bad stick in each of my 2 kits tested.

It seems that the second blue slot is the 1 that damaged my rams.

[SKiLL3D]

OMAGAD! thats sound really bad. I knew something MUST be wrong about a 590 labeled as 680!

I hope Abit and the other Manufacturers who havent released their Board are now aware of the Problem!

iLL

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

OMAGAD! thats sound really bad. I knew something MUST be wrong about a 590 labeled as 680!

I hope Abit and the other Manufacturers who havent released their Board are now aware of the Problem!

iLLi hope they don't have the problem either.
I know that the asus striker has the sound problem just like the evga did.

[theteamaqua]

to all the 680i users out there:

do u think 680i is buggy now??

cuz i kinda wanna get 1 but after seeing these results ...

[theteamaqua]

man u hate this board dont u?

if this is how it goes. i might just get P5B DLX and prolly do single GPU...

[shawn1998]

It is buggy, yes. I do have a question, though. About how many of these motherboards have been sold and are being used right now? Quite a few. The op quoted 5 posts from other forums, 6 if you include himself. sadcat1 and lopri are not reporting that their 680i killed their ram, so scratch two of the six. So their are 4 people reporting dead ram. Does this make it a confrimed epidemic? Do the math and percentages. It does not. Let's say for argument's sake that only 500 EVGA 680i's were sold and being used. With four people reoprting ram failures, that would put it at .8%. Does that sound like a "confirmed" motherboard defect? Not yet.


I have 2 kits of G.Skill 6400HZ and i have lost 1 stick from each kit. 1 of the sticks that died has never been overvolted.

So 3 of the 4 that failed have been overvolted? What does that do for an RMA? You voided your warranty when you applied too much voltage to the ram sticks.


The board didn't kill my ram! It doesn't work in the right side slots. It works in the left side. I know this is difficult to believe. posted by sadcat

How many boards and chipsets have ram slots that don't work very well? DFI boards are famous for having to use the orange slots and not the yellow (I used the SLI-DR for a year, so I know this from experience). Does this make it a ram killer? No, even posted by sadcat, one of the persons you tried to use to bear witness to your EVGA 680i SLI board is killing ram. Confirmed!!!
doomsday thread topic.

As far as Dayofpain and his $2000 worth of ruined ram, I feel for him, because that's an aweful lot of money. But good lord, wouldn't you have stopped after maybe the second set of ram stopped working????? To me, it would have been very obvious after the second set of memory failed that their was an issue with the board, but to waste 2 sets of four and an additional set of two sticks is not very wise. Like I said, I really do feel bad for him, but man, common sense should have kicked in at some point, don't you think? As a side note to his particular situation, EVGA rep contacted him directly on Wed to get his mobo issue resolved. It's obvious that he got a very very bad motherboard. But again, does this confirm that all EVGA 680i's are ram killers? NO!!!!!!!!!

If you wanted to post how this board has sata issues, you would have a much stronger case, seeing as there are many, many more posts and complaints that support that claim, including EVGA responding that nVidia and EVGA are aware of the issue and are working on it.

Your "confirmed" claim has been confirmed by you and maybe 3 other people. Very shakey at best.

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

So 3 of the 4 that failed have been overvolted? What does that do for an RMA? You voided your warranty when you applied too much voltage to the ram sticks.
Only 1 stick that was overvolted failed but is working at stock speed and timings at 2.2v now. the dead stick wasn't overvolted at all. 2 of my sticks out of the 4 are fine and dandy.

Overvolting G.skill ram does not void your warranty.
From G.skill web site.


RMA Policy

All G.SKILL memory products are covered under Life time warranty.

RMA Process
Please contact us (by email or fax) for RMA request and please provide following information for RMA request.

1. Invoice Number

2. Invoice Date

3. Description or part number of product

4. Quantity

5. Failure Sympton

* RMA shipping instructions: RMA must be shipped freight prepaid and insured. Replacement items will be shipped back to customer freight prepaid as well.

* Product that proves defective by reason of improper workmanship or materials by G.SKILL is subject to repair or replacement without charge for parts and labor. Product returned within warranty period will be repaired or replaced upon verification and testing of the product.

Warranty Void
No express or implied warranty is made for product if following points meet:

1. Warranty sticker is removed

2. Physically damaged (e.g. racks, missing pins, nurnt contacts, or bent leads)

3. Any unathorized disassembly, repair or modification (includes heatsink)

4. Use thermal paste to make the memory chip print damaged as the photo below

[shawn1998]

* Product that proves defective by reason of improper workmanship or materials by G.SKILL is subject to repair or replacement without charge for parts and labor. Product returned within warranty period will be repaired or replaced upon verification and testing of the product.

So it's G-Skill's fault that you ran it out of spec? Does over-volting fall under the "improper workmanship" or "materials"? Just curious...

I wouldn't advertise the fact that you over-vloted some of the "failed" memory to G-Skill. I think you are reading something into the warranty that's not implied.

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

So it's G-Skill's fault that you ran it out of spec? Does over-volting fall under the "improper workmanship" or "materials"? Just curious...

I wouldn't advertise the fact that you over-vloted some of the "failed" memory to G-Skill. I think you are reading something into the warranty that's not implied.here is a quote from gskill help section.

It should not be right. If you need voltage for stock speeds that is beyond stock voltages, you should RMA them.
Often they are bad kits.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=76323

[dinos22]

did your sticks die in the same slot

[shawn1998]

You are completely missing the point. I've read your posts over on the EVGA forums and know a little of the background. You have memory that is rated at 4-4-4-12 2.0-2.1 volts. You ran them at 4-4-4-8 2.3-2.4 volts. Your reasoning wsa because they had the micron D9 chips on them, so you figured that you were well within the warranty to run them at those timings and voltages. I'm happy your DDR2 6400HZ's have micron D9 chips on them, but that doesn't change the fact that you RAN THEN OUT OF SPEC. Get it yet? It doesn't matter what they have on them, it matters what the manufacturer specifications rate them at. You ran them out of spec.


ok i think i might have found the problem.
I set voltage to 2.3v and 1 of the bad sticks seems to be working so far.
I am testing the stick with orthos blend test. which is using the whole 1GB. i will test for 20 minutes and then i will test the other stick. I think that there seems to be a problem with Vdimm in this P20 beta bios.

I am running the ram at stock speed 4-4-4-8 2.3v

EVGA 680i SLI M/B
C2D X6800
4GB G.Skill 6400HZ
SilverStone 850W ZEUS
8800GTS SLI
2 x 150GB WD Raptors
1 x 74GB WD Raptors
2 x 250GB WD Caviar SE16
2 x pioneer 111D
X-Fi Extreme Music
Logitech Z5500
G7 mouse
22" Proview HDCP

This is your qoute from the EVGA forums. Your ram is not rated to run at 4-4-4-8 and 2.3 volts. You ran it out of spec. This is a statement of fact taken from your own post.

[Rattle]

why would you run this ram stock speed 4-4-4-8 at 2.3v?

I have a pair i can run at 450 at 4-4-4-8 at 2.0

[icon57]

the only thing here is that YOUR mobo, and YOUR setting killed the ram...too many of us have the same mobo and ram with no probs.

[tam2]

So.............. X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE, shawn1998
Should we buy it or not?? Any advice??

-tam2-

[Think]

Maybe there should be a pinned posting:

WARNING 680 board defects, defuncts and out right lemonade problems!

I'm not kidding, there seems to be quit a few people having issues with this board - scary.:explode2:

[Rovtar]

If it's true than this is bad :(

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

did your sticks die in the same sloti think so.

[JohnMike]

You are completely missing the point. I've read your posts over on the EVGA forums and know a little of the background. You have memory that is rated at 4-4-4-12 2.0-2.1 volts. You ran them at 4-4-4-8 2.3-2.4 volts.

This is your qoute from the EVGA forums. Your ram is not rated to run at 4-4-4-8 and 2.3 volts. You ran it out of spec. This is a statement of fact taken from your own post.

4-4-4-8@2.3v shouldn't be a problem for this ram. I had the same kit running on my P5B-Dlx, same timings, 950mhz and 2.3v... And no problem at all, rock stable!

Well, but acidents appens... :rolleyes:

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

You are completely missing the point. I've read your posts over on the EVGA forums and know a little of the background. You have memory that is rated at 4-4-4-12 2.0-2.1 volts. You ran them at 4-4-4-8 2.3-2.4 volts. Your reasoning wsa because they had the micron D9 chips on them, so you figured that you were well within the warranty to run them at those timings and voltages. I'm happy your DDR2 6400HZ's have micron D9 chips on them, but that doesn't change the fact that you RAN THEN OUT OF SPEC. Get it yet? It doesn't matter what they have on them, it matters what the manufacturer specifications rate them at. You ran them out of spec.



This is your qoute from the EVGA forums. Your ram is not rated to run at 4-4-4-8 and 2.3 volts. You ran it out of spec. This is a statement of fact taken from your own post.g.skill say that overvolt does not void warranty.


So.............. X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE, shawn1998
Should we buy it or not?? Any advice??

-tam2-
wait for word from evga first.

[Omastar]

Now that Asus Striker Extremely Overpriced isn't looking so bad.

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

Now that Asus Striker Extremely Overpriced isn't looking so bad.
it has the sound problem as well.

[Think]

I don't think running those at 2.3 should kill the ram unless the board becomes destabilized at higher vdimm values.

However, Fugger doesn't seem to have a problem with this board frying ram - just sound issues and overclocking limitations ( that was enough for me to say NO to this board )

[Omastar]

it has the sound problem as well.

Sound problem?

[malachi1313]

That and the SATA issues they are having. I'm building a new C2D system and I went with a BadAxe 2. After spending $1600 on new equipment I really don't want a chance of ANYTHING going south.

[rjw]

FWIW

I have a 2 Ghz Gskill kit in my 680i. It's the 3-4-3-8 5400 kit.

History: I bought them a month or so ago, and my p5w dh wouldn't boot on occasion with these sticks.

During some ram testing on a P5B, I put them in before lowering the mem Voltage, and 1 stick died (or so it seemed)

Fast forward , I tried the one good stick in my 680i and it performed rather well. Put the dead stick in and it worked fine...go figure

I have not done EXTENSIVE testing, but so far between 2 sets of Dominator 8500, a set of team 3-3-3-8 and the 3-4-3-8 Gskills, the gskills run the best.

They were the easiest to get to boot to 481 x 9 or 4.3Ghz, on 2.2 volts.


I am however suspecting some voltage issues with this board, but in my case, it may be Vcore and here's why...

I have a test cpu that I have used in all my boards, to check things out. It is an E6600 A series, and it has run as high as 4.65Ghz, and up to 1.9 volts in attempts to get more speed.

At 1.65 to 1.7 volts, the vapochill normally shows around -41 C on the display. At lower voltages it shows -47 to - 51 and at 1.85 v and up, it shows -36 to -39.

These combos of speed/voltages can be repeated on all of my boards, excpet the 680i. As I type this, it is running at 480 x 9, 1.65v in the bios , but things don't add up.

My vapochill readout is at -50C , which lds me to believe that the cpu is NOT getting as much voltage as the bios reports.

BTW, at the moment, here my single card 3Dm06 score is at 13,778, which isn't too shabby.

[thephenom]

The EVGA board I had didn't kill my ram, but the one of the MOSFETS did blow up and started smoking up the room though....

[Grinch]

problems here to:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1846256&postcount=36

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1846399&postcount=38

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1849762&postcount=45

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1849812&postcount=47

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1849906&postcount=49

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1851577&postcount=51

this is my lil saga...:toast:

[Iceflight]

Well, my G skills HZ Pairs are running on this evga 680i board at 3 3 3 3 @ 2.1volts, 2t though. 1t couldn't pass memtest at any voltage or latency. Point is; to run at what I'm running now it takes 3 other mobos I have(975XBX, AW9D-max, P5B-e plus) at least 2.35vdimms. Heavily suspecting overvoltage on the vdimms on the board. Could be why it's killing the rams.

[SKiLL3D]

0,25V Overvoltage is very tough! Maybe someone can check it? I'd like to know if thats a problem of the ReferenceBoards only. Is ANY Manufacturer making his own Design? Till now i've seen only different Cooling solutions and AddonChips(1394,eSATA,blahblah)...

iLL

[The Asgard]

I have been running this board since release with a pair of Micron based GSkill HZ @ 2.0v and alot higher for benching without ANY issues.

Apart from the broken fan control I have found the board to be very stable and the Bios Solid. Currently running my 6600 at 3.6 with default voltage and its been 100% stable. Great board and IMHO up there with the P5W 64 Pro which was my last board.

[Think]

The EVGA board I had didn't kill my ram, but the one of the MOSFETS did blow up and started smoking up the room though....
:eek:

wtf!

[Think]

I have been running this board since release with a pair of Micron based GSkill HZ @ 2.0v and alot higher for benching without ANY issues.

Apart from the broken fan control I have found the board to be very stable and the Bios Solid. Currently running my 6600 at 3.6 with default voltage and its been 100% stable. Great board and IMHO up there with the P5W 64 Pro which was my last board.

Apparently, some of the issues are directly related to SLI - specifically the sound issue.

[The Asgard]

Apparently, some of the issues are directly related to SLI - specifically the sound issue.

I think thats been fixed with the latest Beta Bios.

http://www.evga.com/community/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21597

[Luis_GT]

I've been running my 680i for a week now. It's a BFG but I don't think that matters. I've pushed max voltage (2.5 to my Team Xtreem DDR667 kit in an attempt to run 1200mhz @ 4-4-4-8 and they are still running great, Currently running @ 1000mhz 4-4-4-8 with 2.1v.

The only issue I've had with this board is the Raid Falure message when I'm oc'ed to 3.6 ghz.

[thephenom]

:eek:

wtf!
Yep, good thing it didn't kill my X68 or my G80. Then I looked at the board after, one of the mosfets pretty much melted. Got a quick RMA from NCIX though.

[GAR]

to all the 680i users out there:

do u think 680i is buggy now??

cuz i kinda wanna get 1 but after seeing these results ...

i LOVE my board its great, my ram does 600mhz @ 5-4-4-8 stable all day long.......i dont know how u guys have all these issues, i havnt ran into any issues so far.

[Johnny Bravo]

Your damn lucky it didn't kill your CPU mate, that was a 50/50 break there!

[Lestat]

no issues here.
1111mhz 5-4-4-12 @ 2.25v

if i set the vdimm to 2.4v the board will not boot.
so that there shows me that there is some sort of voltage issue.


but it was said before and i'll say it again.

after the first set, ok the ram maybe bad, after the 2nd set, ok something else is funky here.
but the third set wtf are you retarded, you just keep shoving more ram into the baord.

there isnt any issues with this baord killing ram, its you and maybe 1 or two people, and your overvolting or non overvolting is higher suspect.

now this has also been said many MANY times.
DO NOT INSERT OR REMOVE RAM WHILE THE PSU IS STILL POWERED UP

you MUST unplug or hit the power switch on the psu and then let all the power release from the mobo. easiest way to see this is when the lights on the mobo itself go off.
then you can swap ram.

whenever the psu is powered on, the mobo and all components are still being fed full bore voltages, whatever the bios is set for, event hough the pc isnt powered on the mobo is still juiced up and feeding voltage to the components.
and this WILL kill your ram, its random and doesnt happento everyone, but it can and does and continues to happen.

so think about that

[sierra_bound]

There seems to be a lot of fear and even hysteria in this thread. I have yet to kill any RAM with the eVGA board and I often run the memory voltage at 2.45-2.5v.

The board is a little quirky at times. Sometimes it won't post and will go into safe mode. Re-saving the bios settings often fixes that. Sometimes removing the supposedly defective sticks and booting with another pair, and then re-inserting the first pair, will solve the problem.

I think it is way too early to conclude this board will kill everybody's RAM. There are no guarantees when you overclock. You're always taking a risk. If you don't want to take risks, then don't overclock. Run everything at default.

[rick_fx]

There seems to be a lot of fear and even hysteria in this thread. I have yet to kill any RAM with the eVGA board and I often run the memory voltage at 2.45-2.5v.

The board is a little quirky at times. Sometimes it won't post and will go into safe mode. Re-saving the bios settings often fixes that. Sometimes removing the supposedly defective sticks and booting with another pair, and then re-inserting the first pair, will solve the problem.

I think it is way too early to conclude this board will kill everybody's RAM. There are no guarantees when you overclock. You're always taking a risk. If you don't want to take risks, then don't overclock. Run everything at default.

Agreed. :clap:

The only thing confirmed here is that the starter of this thread is jumping to conclusions way too fast.
It's not because some guy killed 10 sticks of ram (probably his fault anyway :fact:) that this motherboard is a ram killer.

I've ran my at 2.4-2.5V many times and have not killed any RAM with the EVGA 680i. I haven't had any problems at all with my 680i. The 680i is a very good motherboard even though the bios isn't mature yet.

[palese]

shawn what you need to look at is the number of people who own this board but never spend time on forums, and if they have the issue you will never know about it:fact: To you it may sound like a lot of drama, but you do the math on the total of spent ram. When a motherboard is released with a beta bios and followed up by yet another beta bios it should tell you this board was not ready for prime time:fact:

Just because you see some extreme OCing on this MB on this forum by the overclocking legends :fact: :clap: does not make this board good. Sure maybe some boards are good and trouble free but at the price of good ram its not a good way to gamble:fact:

Im at 1500 dollars in ram, two sets being Dominator type, hell thats enough for another computer, so if extreme Ice brings this to the attention of forum members or even a nvidia Rep if they bother to read this forum, then my hats off to him:clap:

So bottom line, if your happy with your 680i and your high end ram is doing well then you should move on shawn.








It is buggy, yes. I do have a question, though. About how many of these motherboards have been sold and are being used right now? Quite a few. The op quoted 5 posts from other forums, 6 if you include himself. sadcat1 and lopri are not reporting that their 680i killed their ram, so scratch two of the six. So their are 4 people reporting dead ram. Does this make it a confrimed epidemic? Do the math and percentages. It does not. Let's say for argument's sake that only 500 EVGA 680i's were sold and being used. With four people reoprting ram failures, that would put it at .8%. Does that sound like a "confirmed" motherboard defect? Not yet.



So 3 of the 4 that failed have been overvolted? What does that do for an RMA? You voided your warranty when you applied too much voltage to the ram sticks.

posted by sadcat

How many boards and chipsets have ram slots that don't work very well? DFI boards are famous for having to use the orange slots and not the yellow (I used the SLI-DR for a year, so I know this from experience). Does this make it a ram killer? No, even posted by sadcat, one of the persons you tried to use to bear witness to your EVGA 680i SLI board is killing ram. Confirmed!!!
doomsday thread topic.

As far as Dayofpain and his $2000 worth of ruined ram, I feel for him, because that's an aweful lot of money. But good lord, wouldn't you have stopped after maybe the second set of ram stopped working????? To me, it would have been very obvious after the second set of memory failed that their was an issue with the board, but to waste 2 sets of four and an additional set of two sticks is not very wise. Like I said, I really do feel bad for him, but man, common sense should have kicked in at some point, don't you think? As a side note to his particular situation, EVGA rep contacted him directly on Wed to get his mobo issue resolved. It's obvious that he got a very very bad motherboard. But again, does this confirm that all EVGA 680i's are ram killers? NO!!!!!!!!!

If you wanted to post how this board has sata issues, you would have a much stronger case, seeing as there are many, many more posts and complaints that support that claim, including EVGA responding that nVidia and EVGA are aware of the issue and are working on it.

Your "confirmed" claim has been confirmed by you and maybe 3 other people. Very shakey at best.

[palese]

Lestat -there isnt any issues with this baord killing ram, its you and maybe 1 or two people, and your overvolting or non overvolting is higher suspect

Im sure glad you cleared that up for us:rolleyes: :clap:


sierra_bound - Run everything at default.

Mine died at default :fact:

[boblemagnifique]

Not problem for me

Pi 1mo max 655Mhz (1311) 5/5/5/12 at 2.475v bios on 2x1go Patriot pc 8000 c4

4x512mo Pc 8500 Kingston max 640/650 c5 at 2.425v (not boot at 2.45v)

I test orthers mark soon :)

[sierra_bound]

sierra_bound - Run everything at default.

Mine died at default :fact:
Palese, please explain to all of us why many people are not having problems with RAM dying. I'm sorry you have not had much luck with this board. This is not a knock against you, but what really annoys me is when someone has an issue with a board and then generalizes that it must be a universal problem.

[FUGGER]

Changing ram with the system plugged in can/will destroy the ram, this could be the result of poor handling.

Never remove/install ram with LED's on, parts of the system board are still powered if LED's are on.

If it were possible to fry ram on this board I would have done it 10x over by now but you may have a defective board.

Monitoring ram voltages now, gimme a few days as I need to bench and reboot a bunch to watch for spikes.

Nvidia Monitor will display settings set in bios, not actual.

[Dumo]

Heres the basic rules:)
1. Always disabled C1 option in bios..
2. Wait untill all mobo leds off (turned off psu) then you can change
components.
3. Always use insert key when mobo booted back (and monitor stays blank)
after failed oc.

[shawn1998]

shawn what you need to look at is the number of people who own this board but never spend time on forums, and if they have the issue you will never know about it To you it may sound like a lot of drama, but you do the math on the total of spent ram. When a motherboard is released with a beta bios and followed up by yet another beta bios it should tell you this board was not ready for prime time

Just because you see some extreme OCing on this MB on this forum by the overclocking legends does not make this board good. Sure maybe some boards are good and trouble free but at the price of good ram its not a good way to gamble

Im at 1500 dollars in ram, two sets being Dominator type, hell thats enough for another computer, so if extreme Ice brings this to the attention of forum members or even a nvidia Rep if they bother to read this forum, then my hats off to him

So bottom line, if your happy with your 680i and your high end ram is doing well then you should move on shawn.

There is a difference between "bringing it to someone's attention" and declaring that the board is a ram killer. You are the one that wasted how many sticks of ram before realizing that your particular board might be bad? $1500 to figure out you might have a faultyl board? A fool and his money..., well, you know how it goes.
People that have issues are generally the ones posting. You prove the op wrong by even stating that. Their are hundreds upon hundreds of these boards in the wild, but only a few people here and there claiming the board killed their ram. I'm not the only person here saying this, read around. You have issues and I feel for you, but good lord, you should have figured out after the second set went. Common sense, that's all I'm saying.

As a side note, the EVGA rep stated over on the EVGA forums that they have not recieved complaints about ram being killed on this board, with the exception of the few people you have pointed out. So it HAS come to the attention of EVGA and it HAS been addressed. You should post his response here, wait, I'll do it for you:


No need to worry as this board does not fry memory modules.

This thread is the only report I have seen of this, from the many boards that have been sold. As you can see the 680i is quite a popular board.

As for the original poster, I suspect either bad ram, or a possibly faulty board, also keep in mind that I believe he was overvolting his ram, running his ram at memory voltages higher than what they were intended for.

We have many different types of memory, and run them at different voltages. We run them for days, in various stress tests and have not come across any dead modules either.

Also, my personal memory in my sig has been running great for weeks, at 2.4v.

However, we will continue to test more memory modules for compatibility.

Thanks,
As posted by EVGA tech JacobF over at EVGA.

Just saying.

[irev210]

i've tested about 10GB of ram in this board so far, ram is not an issue for me.

The ability to actually overclock ram is actually really great.


overclocking my kentfield on the other hand is a totally different story.

[»X$«êdên]

Hey what can I run to test my memory too. Im so wiped I had 2 BFG's 2 wouldn't boot the first had the capacitors/resistors all bent too. I asked my friend hey is this normal? should I even try to put it together, he said sure since I had it try so I did and my ram got melting hot too! It wouldn't boot etc. Got my second board from Cusa & noticed the similar resistor type but not so bad...so Ok I installed everything again & no go...then tech support (great by the waY bfg) said rma it but I am worried and wish to just get my MONEY back?? anyways sent it to ups today. Back on my p5b delux wifi pampered bios. After reading all those codes in the 680i handbook I can say that the asus is for a pampered princess for sure lol. It's like Lexus or TANK...well I wanted the power of the tank hmph.

ALSO I have photos of the second board and it has a missing Part number in comparison to the part numbers the EVGA boards had bleep bleep bleep?


Do any other 680 owners have missing part number next to the pcb number is blank!!!!! weird.

Anyway I am glad you did bring it to attention because I worried of my PSU & ram wondering why I couldn't get it to work.

Here is the story as I am too tired to write it over again will copy/paste
Exchanged the board tonight at CompUSA.. they allowed me to swap for another package.

booted with 2 sticks of memory.. and couldn't POST

took one out.. and booted with just 1 stick.. and got BIOS checksum error.

Since I'd seen that error before with the other board I was ready with a floppy disk to flash the BIOS .. I'd downloaded their flash program and new BIOS from bfgtech.com...

with that floppy in the A: drive.. when you get the BIOS checksum error.. it automagically goes to detect the a: drive and when it does tries to launch "AWDFLASH.EXE"

Which it can't find cause it isn't on that floppy I made.. the program on the floppy is NVFLSHSC.exe or something like that and it is called through a flash.bat file found at the bfg site.

So.. I called tech support at BFG.. and after getting the tech straight .. on why it wouldn't flash a new BIOS.. (trying to use AWDFLASH instead of the NVFLSHSC) he put me on hold for about 10-15 minutes... and came back and said RMA that sucker.

That is an error that we should not ever see.. He said it is like someone put a different BIOS on the chip because thier BIOS has an auto flash capability but doesn't use AWDFLASH. So the fact that it was looking for that program is just -wrong-. So he said to send it to him and he'll get me one back that -works-.

[Dumo]

Better go back to 975X/p65 board:D ...Easy oc and less headache.

[dinos22]

what with all the FREAKING out in this thread...........farking hell guys relax a tad.

it's funny to see Lestat on the NON-freaked out end hahahaha :D

hey Lestat is that the G.Skill HZ RAM that could not do DDR1000 before :)

looks like there a few n00bs about here that can't change components properly hehehehehehehe :p: :)

[dinos22]

Better go back to 975X/p65 board:D ...Easy oc and less headache.
LOL where's the challenge then hahah

[»X$«êdên]

I hope Jacob or others enlighten us with the best memory or compatible memory for the mb then as I haven't found that on the BFG site yet. OCZ Platinum Revision 2 2GB (PC2 6400) ;Rated @ 4-4-4-15;
OCZ OCZ2P800R22GK was what I used and I am curious if anyone got it to run with that I would be ecstatic! :D

OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI PSU Hopefully this psu is compatible too. ALthough I have read a review that the voltages aren't too stable but I don't have any tool to test this out yet.

[»X$«êdên]

LOL I haven't read all of the post but for sure I hope my 680i would be the i holy grail!

[Dumo]

LOL where's the challenge then hahahNot me:) I stay with N680i...Its fun.
Too many 975X boards for me, gotta change scenery..

[dinos22]

Not me:) I stay with N680i...Its fun.
Too many 975X boards for me, gotta change scenery..
just as i thought :)

[Dumo]

Run it with 1T is fun:D

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/3237/screenshot151bg7.jpg

[dinos22]

Run it with 1T is fun:D

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/3237/screenshot151bg7.jpg
surprised there are no benches in 5+GHz for W.R.

i'm sure with a bit of tweaking they will take it down no dramas .........and not to mention RAM seems to clock higher than 975X :)

[»X$«êdên]

Not to hijack this thread but....

I am just curious if everyones board has these two numbers in photo one, whereas mine did not have a sticker and was blank showed in the second photo.

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTE2MjE0Mjk3MEluMVRUWWIyczBfMl84X 2wuanBn

http://static.flickr.com/115/305391606_f1b157befd.jpg?v=0

and doesn't the 680 have the sweetest lil fan! lol

[xgman]

I was was of those "running fine here" guys , that is until today. What has been reported re: the ram is happening to me also now. Although I don't think the ram has been killed. I think the board ha gone wacked. Like one stick works, and one stick doesn't, then all of a suden the reverse, then both sticks work great, then none, all over the place. Once in windows it seems fine no matter what. But when you cold boot, here go the long beeps and have to re-save bios and try the black slots and on and on. voltage, overclocking etc, don't seem to come that much into play with all this crazy behavior. I think it's something on the board going wacky, but I couldn't begin to guess what exactly. I even tried a bios chip from a BFG board abd it behaved exactly the same way. I wonder if the striker has thi sort of flakeyness being reported?? I might give the asus a try to see if it will settle down at least. Thinng is, (and I was warned about this) all was well for a few weeks then bam! Oh well, it goes with the territory I guess. Expensive territory at that.

[Dumo]

Mines blank too.

[»X$«êdên]

If you have corsair you can check out compatibility the lazy/unenlightened/careful? way! not that this is a memory thread but....

http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/configurator_search.html
http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/configurator_search_results.html

and some expert here suggested http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/

or pester xs people

[palese]

There is a difference between "bringing it to someone's attention" and declaring that the board is a ram killer. You are the one that wasted how many sticks of ram before realizing that your particular board might be bad? $1500 to figure out you might have a faultyl board? A fool and his money..., well, you know how it goes.
People that have issues are generally the ones posting. You prove the op wrong by even stating that. Their are hundreds upon hundreds of these boards in the wild, but only a few people here and there claiming the board killed their ram. I'm not the only person here saying this, read around. You have issues and I feel for you, but good lord, you should have figured out after the second set went. Common sense, that's all I'm saying.

As a side note, the EVGA rep stated over on the EVGA forums that they have not recieved complaints about ram being killed on this board, with the exception of the few people you have pointed out. So it HAS come to the attention of EVGA and it HAS been addressed. You should post his response here, wait, I'll do it for you:


As posted by EVGA tech JacobF over at EVGA.

Just saying.

Well I guess you want to turn this into a mud slinging match:rolleyes: I never said I went through 1500 dollars worth of ram genius, I lost a stick of C3DF at default with no OC and yes the power was off and the plug pulled out, I am now using C5D until I get the replacement C3DF as I use my PC for work as well. I also own a set of Mushkin XP2 6400, its fine in other PC's just not this one.

So no I have not killed 1500 in ram and where the hell did I call this MB a ram killer?

Anyways I replaced the Evga tonight with another one and the only difference is that its branded BFG, my IDE does not see my DVD on this one :)

[Babsy]

too too many issues

[OBR]

This is the worst MoBo on the market ... i have tons of problems ... its time to P5W DH again!

[shawn1998]

Im at 1500 dollars in ram, two sets being Dominator type, hell thats enough for another computer,

I got it from your post, genius.

[The Asgard]

This is the worst MoBo on the market ... i have tons of problems ... its time to P5W DH again!

Perhaps its just broken?

Just a thought.

[cir108]

For those brainless enough to think that living is about talking politics, [i.e rationalising], here’s a lesson in truth. {And just because you see everybody, in and out of politics rationalising, doesn’t mean it is normal}. Truth is not about BS, debates, showing-off, comparing organ sizes, alwaying being right, etc. Truth is what it is. Did this mobo killed ram. Did it or didn’t it. Does it have to be a “full-time” ram killer to justify this fact for those experiencing the situation. If so, don’t learn to be a pimp just because you feel obliged, ingratiated or for whatever reason, the need to side with anyone. All people are after, is information. Of course, some might have other agendas but the fact is all it should be. Now, if a vested interest wants to “quieten-down” the situation because they feel that people are always in a state of perpetual panic, that is another matter for their PR people, latent pimps included. For others, who can decide from what is being presented, they can make up their minds – for themselves.

[xVeinx]

For those brainless enough to think that living is about talking politics, [i.e rationalising], here’s a lesson in truth. {And just because you see everybody, in and out of politics rationalising, doesn’t mean it is normal}. Truth is not about BS, debates, showing-off, comparing organ sizes, alwaying being right, etc. Truth is what it is. Did this mobo killed ram. Did it or didn’t it. Does it have to be a “full-time” ram killer to justify this fact for those experiencing the situation. If so, don’t learn to be a pimp just because you feel obliged, ingratiated or for whatever reason, the need to side with anyone. All people are after, is information. Of course, some might have other agendas but the fact is all it should be. Now, if a vested interest wants to “quieten-down” the situation because they feel that people are always in a state of perpetual panic, that is another matter for their PR people, latent pimps included. For others, who can decide from what is being presented, they can make up their minds – for themselves.

I think people are getting a little too uptight. Yes, there are problems with some boards, although we don't know how widespread. I don't think the philisophical ramifications of how certain posters have posted need be discussed in the thread :p:. I'm sure that this will be solved soon enough; nVidia will either fix this via a bios update or replace the board. There is way too much riding on these boards to let this fester. Besides, people having paid $400 for these boards are more likely to be banging on their backdoor pretty fast :D .

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

Ok 2 more sticks are going bad now making it a total of 4 sticks = $1100

The 2 sticks that are in my computer right now were running fine for about 24 hours with 2.1v, early yesterday i had to up it to 2.2v because windows was starting to freeze. This memory has never seen more than 2.1v until yesterday.

[sierra_bound]

Ok 2 more sticks are going bad now making it a total of 4 sticks = $1100

The 2 sticks that are in my computer right now were running fine for about 24 hours with 2.1v, early yesterday i had to up it to 2.2v because windows was starting to freeze. This memory has never seen more than 2.1v until yesterday.
Why do you keep putting RAM in a board that might be bad? That's not very smart.

[Babsy]

Why do you keep putting RAM in a board that might be bad? That's not very smart.
yeah if the board is so bad why do you keep using it?just go back to the one you were you before that gave you less problems for and wait for a better board like i'm doing.makes sense right?

[sierra_bound]

yeah if the board is so bad why do you keep using it?just go back to the one you were you before that gave you less problems for and wait for a better board like i'm doing.makes sense right?
My board is fine. Same is true with a lot of other people. If you've just come here to troll, you picked the wrong forum. And why do I think that you don't even own this board.

[Babsy]

My board is fine. Same is true with a lot of other people. If you've just come here to troll, you picked the wrong forum. And why do I think that you don't even own this board.
i oredered the board was following threads of people with it so when i found someone saying things about ram issue and on the evga forum i decided to go with asus deluxe with lesser problems so i still keep following threads with it till it's resolved does that make me a troll?

[sierra_bound]

Well first off, you misunderstood my comment to the thread starter. It always helps to comprehend a post before responding to it. I was suggesting that his board was bad. Does that make sense to you? If he suspected his board was killing his RAM, why would he put another set in? That's not very bright in my book. But hey, that's just me.

[ryaan]

my condolences go out to your wallet.

[pentium777]

Although most things are possible in this technology field it is fairly rare to see a mainboard "kill" ram, but don't get me wrong it is possible although I think quite unlikely. I think more likely a bad board or possibly maybe just very very unlucky ram modules? Regardless I would hope everyone is wise enough to run a new board a defaults with the ram at defaults with memtest for as long as they feel comfortable to test components.

While I am always anxious to test overclocks and see what my system will do I always test at defaults especially with ram and video cards, in fact I don't even plan to OC my 8800 GTX SLI cards for a while if at all and yes 2560x1600 4xAA, 16xAF, SupertransAA would benefit from some overclocking.

I wouldn't feel concerned for the wallet, Corsair and other top manufacturers WILL definately RMA and replace those defective modules and in my case I'd replace that board without even thinking twice about it.

[nn_step]

Noob + Overclocker Board = alot of dead parts

[pentium777]

i oredered the board was following threads of people with it so when i found someone saying things about ram issue and on the evga forum i decided to go with asus deluxe with lesser problems so i still keep following threads with it till it's resolved does that make me a troll?

Babsy we can't all be cowboy pioneers with new technology, I don't blame you for waiting but for me it is a feeling of excitement testing the latest and greatest. Sure I pay for it but I also don't go on expensive family vacations all over the country or world or spend my money at bars or clubs either. When I spend this money though I am comforted in my decisions and go with companies that I'm really sure will take care of my purchase, at the worst case scenario I'm out my time and efforts and return the products and use what I had before.

In fact I'm still working on my new build where I'm not even joined to my domain, no office 2003 installed and only stress test, benching apps and BF2142 installed. This way if I corrupt my OS or whatever happens my data is safely unchanged and on my backup drive.

[mdzcpa]

what really annoys me is when someone has an issue with a board and then generalizes that it must be a universal problem.

I couldn't agree more. And this hysteria happens time after time after time on just about every "hot" peice of hardware that comes along.

Once a product hits it big, everyone and their mother jumps onboard, a fractional percentage of those folks have the usual problems, and then threads about killer mobos start up.

Same circus, different clowns.

I'm sorry to see a few folks lose their ram. I really am. That's for sure. But that's about where I draw the line. I simply do not see enough reports to draw any type of generalized conclusion (unlike the sound and sata issues which were obvious by the number of reports, and fairly easy to reproduce as well).

Just FYI to add food for thought here, I took my gaming box and a new game server (both based on the evga 680i) to a LAN party yesterday. The server ran for 20 hours non stop loaded without a single reboot (e6700 @ 3.2ghz, 2g ram at 1000mhz @ 2.1v, 7800GTX). My gaming rig ran about the same amount of time, mostly under load as well (x6800 @ 3.8ghz, 2g ram at 1000 @ 2.1v, 2 8800GTS in SLI). Both systems were rock solid with fairly decent overclocks. Although I am aware 2 systems don't mean squat statiscally speaking, it is a testament to the stability of the board. For whatever that's worth.

[Dumo]

K8N Neo2, ATI RDX200, DFI Expert and now 680i:)....Always:toast:

[mdzcpa]

K8N Neo2, ATI RDX200, DFI Expert and now 680i

LOL....this is the same list of mobos I was thinking of :)

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

Why do you keep putting RAM in a board that might be bad? That's not very smart.
Well every one said that there is nothing wrong with the board!!!

I have removed the board from my system and replaced it with a DQ6 motherbard. and the 2 sticks that still work with 2.3v are working fine now in the DQ6 at 2.0v.

[Dumo]

Well every one said that there is nothing wrong with the board!!!

I have removed the board from my system and replaced it with a DQ6 motherbard. and the 2 sticks that still work with 2.3v are working fine now in the DQ6 at 2.0v.Good to hear that:toast:

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

Good to hear that:toast:My computer has now been running for over 3 hours without any hiccups, and 3dscores are almost the same.

still suxs that i have to RmA the 680i board and 2 kits of G.Skill 6400HZ

[alpha0ne]

Why would the 680i be any different to nearly ALL previous nVidia chipsets/boards soon after launch, if you buy the first revision with a beta bios and things start to die then you should'nt whinge too much about it

Just notify others of your loss and accept thats what can possibly happen with most new release high end boards the last couple of years, even Intels 975X boards had some problems

Maybe thats not the way it should be in an ideal world but if they (intel/nvidia etc) waited until the boards/bios were certified as being perfect we would still be waiting for the 975X to be released

[linflas]

Happy for you as well, I hope your rma goes well, and you get a decent board, and maybe it will take long enough for nvidia to get off their collective asses and give us a decent bios, and drivers for our 8800's

[Blacklash]

I was really going to try an Evga 680i board and since I am not using SLi it seemed kinda pointless. I almost did anyway and I am not crazy about Foxconn or the caps on the back of the board. I know I could pad that area and I'd still be paranoid about crushing them with the Tuniq's back support plate.

My ram is actually capable of 1150 on a 1333 strap and that's not an option on this Abit board. I miss that.

[palese]

I was really going to try an Evga 680i board and since I am not using SLi it seemed kinda pointless. I almost did anyway and I am not crazy about Foxconn or the caps on the back of the board. I know I could pad that area and I'd still be paranoid about crushing them with the Tuniq's back support plate.

My ram is actually capable of 1150 on a 1333 strap and that's not an option on this Abit board. I miss that.

Well with all the trouble I have had with 680i, I am now on my second one :) I can say the Tuniq's back support plate fits just fine:fact: But I do understand the concern.

[Ic3man]

Good on ya for reporting that the 680i is killing ram ExtremeIce but maybe you should consider changing the title to My EVGA 680i is killing MY ram rather than announcing a false statement.

Many here (inc myself) have had no such problems, dare I say the vast majority of people havn't had the problems you suggest. As previously stated why keep throwing good money after bad. It could be the 680 thats killing your ram, it could be a faulty voltage regulator on your board it could be a number of things but the first port of call would be to RMA the board imo rather than posting a misleading thread.

[cir108]

For those who are mere chickens when it comes to talking straight, say what you mean and not learn to use or hide behind words like philosphical, religions, etc. This is what the mass media has slyly taught people, to talk bent as if their playing with words is so hip or worshipfully great. There are no shades of grey, only in the minds of chickens or budding ones. That is called politics. The fact is not how problems will be solved in the future [talking like a politician] but what are the problems now such that these problems can then be tracked and SEEN to be monitored. Ever heard of a place called Iraq or Greed….

Fashion is [usually] selling rubbish for fashion is about elevating perceived values to the heights that the dumbed-down can tolerate but usually gives little but dreams in return. Ever heard the politicos talking about this fact? No? So, even the dumb ones have some sense left, inspite of talking [or learning to talk] like a politician. For those defiant bent talkers, know that stealing is taking others property and giving little or nothing in return. This is called black or white not black & white for the latter uses fashion [whaterever the fashion may be] to cloud issues and all the science of gymnastic talking will not change anything other than exposing those who talk bent. Just because this is a techie forum [really?] doesn’t mean common sense should be abandoned or latent pimps be allowed to roam free.

When you buy something, there is no need to worship or praise for when the product satisfies, it has merely fulfilled it's asking price. Fashion is about worshipping, not common sense. If you chose to abaondon yours, don't drag others into it. Like those halleluja boys & gals. Drumming up support for madness [which mobo cost is spiraling towards] is manipulating idiots to convert the undecided masses. Comprehend fully that just because 99 patrons do not have a fly in their soup doesn't mean the one who had should be undermined. Especially when the soup is the Great Golden Variety and cost accordingly.

[sadcat1]

I'm confused. Am I an itiot or undecided?

[The Asgard]

For those who are mere chickens when it comes to talking straight, say what you mean and not learn to use or hide behind words like philosphical, religions, etc. This is what the mass media has slyly taught people, to talk bent as if their playing with words is so hip or worshipfully great. There are no shades of grey, only in the minds of chickens or budding ones. That is called politics. The fact is not how problems will be solved in the future [talking like a politician] but what are the problems now such that these problems can then be tracked and SEEN to be monitored. Ever heard of a place called Iraq or Greed….

Fashion is [usually] selling rubbish for fashion is about elevating perceived values to the heights that the dumbed-down can tolerate but usually gives little but dreams in return. Ever heard the politicos talking about this fact? No? So, even the dumb ones have some sense left, inspite of talking [or learning to talk] like a politician. For those defiant bent talkers, know that stealing is taking others property and giving little or nothing in return. This is called black or white not black & white for the latter uses fashion [whaterever the fashion may be] to cloud issues and all the science of gymnastic talking will not change anything other than exposing those who talk bent. Just because this is a techie forum [really?] doesn’t mean common sense should be abandoned or latent pimps be allowed to roam free.

When you buy something, there is no need to worship or praise for when the product satisfies, it has merely fulfilled it's asking price. Fashion is about worshipping, not common sense. If you chose to abaondon yours, don't drag others into it. Like those halleluja boys & gals. Drumming up support for madness [which mobo cost is spiraling towards] is manipulating idiots to convert the undecided masses. Comprehend fully that just because 99 patrons do not have a fly in their soup doesn't mean the one who had should be undermined. Especially when the soup is the Great Golden Variety and cost accordingly.

I think your in the wrong forum m8 :D

You have totally lost me, LOL.

[Super Nade]

I'm not sure if this was mentioned before, but one of the OCZ techs did mention that removing DDR2 modues from the slots with the power to the mainboard ON, MAY kill it. Probably the OP did this a number of times to swing the probabilities towards death.

[mongoled]

For those who are mere chickens when it comes to talking straight, say what you mean and not learn to use or hide behind words like philosphical, religions, etc. This is what the mass media has slyly taught people, to talk bent as if their playing with words is so hip or worshipfully great. There are no shades of grey, only in the minds of chickens or budding ones. That is called politics. The fact is not how problems will be solved in the future [talking like a politician] but what are the problems now such that these problems can then be tracked and SEEN to be monitored. Ever heard of a place called Iraq or Greed….

Fashion is [usually] selling rubbish for fashion is about elevating perceived values to the heights that the dumbed-down can tolerate but usually gives little but dreams in return. Ever heard the politicos talking about this fact? No? So, even the dumb ones have some sense left, inspite of talking [or learning to talk] like a politician. For those defiant bent talkers, know that stealing is taking others property and giving little or nothing in return. This is called black or white not black & white for the latter uses fashion [whaterever the fashion may be] to cloud issues and all the science of gymnastic talking will not change anything other than exposing those who talk bent. Just because this is a techie forum [really?] doesn’t mean common sense should be abandoned or latent pimps be allowed to roam free.

When you buy something, there is no need to worship or praise for when the product satisfies, it has merely fulfilled it's asking price. Fashion is about worshipping, not common sense. If you chose to abaondon yours, don't drag others into it. Like those halleluja boys & gals. Drumming up support for madness [which mobo cost is spiraling towards] is manipulating idiots to convert the undecided masses. Comprehend fully that just because 99 patrons do not have a fly in their soup doesn't mean the one who had should be undermined. Especially when the soup is the Great Golden Variety and cost accordingly.
Aw man, I havnt posted in yada, but what is your post abt? Think u should be posting somewhere else, I aint reading these forums to find solutions to the ills of society and i dont think anybody else is :)

Sorry for off topic, i will shut up now and crawl back to the dark

[dinos22]

I think your in the wrong forum m8 :D

You have totally lost me, LOL.
hey take it easy on that dude

he's from

Location: the no BS zone:D

[Ic3man]

For those who are mere chickens when it comes to talking straight, say what you mean and not learn to use or hide behind words like philosphical, religions, etc. This is what the mass media has slyly taught people, to talk bent as if their playing with words is so hip or worshipfully great. There are no shades of grey, only in the minds of chickens or budding ones. That is called politics. The fact is not how problems will be solved in the future [talking like a politician] but what are the problems now such that these problems can then be tracked and SEEN to be monitored. Ever heard of a place called Iraq or Greed….

Fashion is [usually] selling rubbish for fashion is about elevating perceived values to the heights that the dumbed-down can tolerate but usually gives little but dreams in return. Ever heard the politicos talking about this fact? No? So, even the dumb ones have some sense left, inspite of talking [or learning to talk] like a politician. For those defiant bent talkers, know that stealing is taking others property and giving little or nothing in return. This is called black or white not black & white for the latter uses fashion [whaterever the fashion may be] to cloud issues and all the science of gymnastic talking will not change anything other than exposing those who talk bent. Just because this is a techie forum [really?] doesn’t mean common sense should be abandoned or latent pimps be allowed to roam free.

When you buy something, there is no need to worship or praise for when the product satisfies, it has merely fulfilled it's asking price. Fashion is about worshipping, not common sense. If you chose to abaondon yours, don't drag others into it. Like those halleluja boys & gals. Drumming up support for madness [which mobo cost is spiraling towards] is manipulating idiots to convert the undecided masses. Comprehend fully that just because 99 patrons do not have a fly in their soup doesn't mean the one who had should be undermined. Especially when the soup is the Great Golden Variety and cost accordingly.

Put simply I think he means that ExtremeIce shouldn't be lampooned for what he has found.

It isn't the fact that he stated the mobo is killing ram its the fact he is generalising a rather serious and potentially slanderous comment referring to the EVGA 680i boards as a whole rather than a few. I'm inclined to agree with a few others here that it was either user error or a dodgy board but I certainly feel for anyone who has hardware problems...had enough of them myself to know.

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

Put simply I think he means that ExtremeIce shouldn't be lampooned for what he has found.

It isn't the fact that he stated the mobo is killing ram its the fact he is generalising a rather serious and potentially slanderous comment referring to the EVGA 680i boards as a whole rather than a few. I'm inclined to agree with a few others here that it was either user error or a dodgy board but I certainly feel for anyone who has hardware problems...had enough of them myself to know.slander is when you lie about the truth. well i have not lied, lets see how many more reports come in about this.


I'm not sure if this was mentioned before, but one of the OCZ techs did mention that removing DDR2 modues from the slots with the power to the mainboard ON, MAY kill it. Probably the OP did this a number of times to swing the probabilities towards death.I have never done that at all. i have psu unplugged before i do any hardware changes.



Good on ya for reporting that the 680i is killing ram ExtremeIce but maybe you should consider changing the title to My EVGA 680i is killing MY ram rather than announcing a false statement.

Many here (inc myself) have had no such problems, dare I say the vast majority of people havn't had the problems you suggest. As previously stated why keep throwing good money after bad. It could be the 680 thats killing your ram, it could be a faulty voltage regulator on your board it could be a number of things but the first port of call would be to RMA the board imo rather than posting a misleading thread.This thread is not miss leading at all. It is the truth and nothing but the truth. I notice about 2 reports every day about ram dieing or getting damaged by the 680i chipset, if that is only %5 of report! do the math.

[Daemono]

Just wanted to throw my 2c in and say I had 0 problems with this board. I've been a lurker here forever, and made an account just to say how much I love this mobo. It didnt eat my RAM, it was fun to OC, and aside from the PS2 keyboard being buggy as hell, it works perfectly. I'd honestly recommend it to my friends.

[shawn1998]

Here's a good one for you guys here. This is what he posted over at the EVGA forums. Enjoy his math!!!


out of all the people that report problems would equate to about %5 of people. so if 2 people that report their ram getting damaged,killed,fried. so 2 x 20 = upto 40 people per day getting their ram killed. There is a possibility that the caps on the back of the boards are the problem.

According to xtreme ice, we supposedly now have up to 40 people per day reporting that the EVGA 680i has "killed" their ram. Man, it's worse that I thought...(can you taste the sarcasm?)

Shawn

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

Here's a good one for you guys here. This is what he posted over at the EVGA forums. Enjoy his math!!!



According to xtreme ice, we supposedly now have up to 40 people per day reporting that the EVGA 680i has "killed" their ram. Man, it's worse that I thought...(can you taste the sarcasm?)

Shawnwell as you know that can't be confirmed, but i would say only about %5 of people would report it as they don't all know where to report errors other than there local Computer shop.


I haven't seen any reports today. so all i have heard of is about 10-15 people so far.

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

Here's a good one for you guys here. This is what he posted over at the EVGA forums. Enjoy his math!!!



According to xtreme ice, we supposedly now have up to 40 people per day reporting that the EVGA 680i has "killed" their ram. Man, it's worse that I thought...(can you taste the sarcasm?)

ShawnI did not say there is 40 people per day reporting bad ram. please get your facts straight next time.

[Luis_GT]

I really feel sorry for you Xtreme Ice, but to say the truth, the only problem I have with this mobo is the Raid access failure whenever I'm overclocked to 3.6 or above. I'm even currently running my Ram @ 1300mhz and still havn't killed my ram. Maybe you got a dodgy board... but would'nt you have stopped after the second pair of Ram was killed?

[Dumo]

Its 5 pages long with rams killed lol:D...Its getting old.
I really can feel the pain of losing hardware either from user error or hardware nalfunction.....

So what is the solution?
Heres...dump this board if its killing your ram or any components then buy a different board. Easy:)

[theteamaqua]

man 680i sounds scary lol

kunauk killed his board by falshing bios the right way, people's RAM got killed ...

i am gonna wait, maybe i will get RD600 with R600 and not 8800 GTS SLI with 680i boards

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

man 680i sounds scary lol

kunauk killed his board by falshing bios the right way, people's RAM got killed ...

i am gonna wait, maybe i will get RD600 with R600 and not 8800 GTS SLI with 680i boardsEvga will just say user error.

[theteamaqua]

i am gonan wait it out, again maybe ill get R600 + RD600 instead of GTS SLI

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

i am gonan wait it out, again maybe ill get R600 + RD600 instead of GTS SLII will give the 680i a second chance when my refund comes back i might get the Striker or the BFG, striker sounds like a better idea.

[DjLeco]

Nvidia must fabricate ONLY videocard chipsets no motherboard chipsets...:slapass:
Let the chipsets on INTEL manufacturers do produce it.
Again troubles with nvidia chipsets, (like always)...:mad:

[theteamaqua]

I will give the 680i a second chance when my refund comes back i might get the Striker or the BFG, striker sounds like a better idea.
cuz if i get GTS SLI i have to get 680i boards...

btw how s P5N32-E SLI?? another 680i board from Asus? is taht one good besides flashing bios kills board??

[shawn1998]

I did not say there is 40 people per day reporting bad ram. please get your facts straight next time.

Umm, here is your post that I quoted:

so 2 x 20 = upto 40 people per day getting their ram killed.

I do have my facts stright. I think it's you who needs to get your facts straight. Don't post complete BS if you don't want to be called on it.

Just saying...

Shawn

[The Asgard]

I'm 99.9% sure this problem is associated with a faulty board/s. I also heard a similiar thing about the Badaxe eating memory again I never had any issues and I played with 4 Badaxes and currently still use one in my MCE Box. Over the pond on the OcUK forums I have not heard of any such problem.

Lets face it if the board did eat ram then it would be BIG news.

theteamaqua your missing out on a great board.

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

Umm, here is your post that I quoted:


I do have my facts stright. I think it's you who needs to get your facts straight. Don't post complete BS if you don't want to be called on it.

Just saying...

ShawnI didn't say 40 people per day reporting, i said.
''upto 40 people per day getting their ram killed'' I didn't say that was how many reported i said that is how many there might be!!!!!!

[dinos22]

Nvidia must fabricate ONLY videocard chipsets no motherboard chipsets...:slapass:
Let the chipsets on INTEL manufacturers do produce it.
Again troubles with nvidia chipsets, (like always)...:mad:
LOL if it was so bad people wouldn't buy them...............BUT they are that good and people are buying for that reason

[shawn1998]

I didn't say 40 people per day reporting, i said.
''upto 40 people per day getting their ram killed'' I didn't say that was how many reported i said that is how many there might be!!!!!!

Might be? Don't post complete BS like that, it's mis-leading and straight out wrong. Since your post is based on your own crack-cooked theory, maybe it should be labeled as such. I "might" win the lottery. I "might" be a brain surgeon. I "might" be John Holmes himself (not really).

Get it yet?

[Think]

Well, as far as I am concerned I would rather purchase the striker over this board.

Still going to wait for a better non nvidia solution when ATI/AMD releases the RD600 as well.

[The Asgard]

Well, as far as I am concerned I would rather purchase the striker over this board.

Why?
The Asus is overated and VERY overpriced.

[linflas]

and where are these 15 people, I frequent the evga forums, and I have counted only 2 people blaming the board for bad ram, where are the other 13, and why have they not posted on evga's forums to complain about their problem?

The 2 people mojom@n a.k.a. x.t.r.e.m.e. i.c.e.
and dayofpain

no one else in that thread you posted their, INCLUDING me has blamed the board for damaging their ram.

You misunderstood me when I posted there, I lost my gskill on a p5wdg2 ws pro mobo, and I posted that I attempted to use it on the 680i to see if my other board was faulty, but it did not work in either. So the ram was bad, and needs an rma.

you stated you had a gskill problem and all I did was say I had a problem with some same model gskill as well.

this thread has gotten out of hand, I don't think bashing the board on forums is going to help you in getting your products replaced, which they should be anyway through an rma. It sucks you lost your ram, but I think you are blowing it way out of proportion, I have no doubt your board is probably faulty, and you got screwed because of it. This happens, bad boards are shipped, and as many of us saw, the quality of manufacture of this board is not what i would call top notch, foxconn is just pumping them out willy nilly, so there are bound to be a few bad boards, you just got unlucky.

[Reinvented]

lol...wow... BS i say! :)

It's the DFI Expert crap all over again. :-P

[Think]

Why?
The Asus is overated and VERY overpriced.

I don't trust this board Asgard. Be it as it may, neither board satisfies what I would like to see in a board anyway so I'll just wait for awhile.

[mustang9621]

lol...wow... BS i say! :)

It's the DFI Expert crap all over again. :-P

I couldn't agree more, The expert killed three cpu's on me and since then I will not be the first to try any new Tech. The 680i boards on the market today are all reference boards and the top tier board makers are just getting ready to release their designs. The early adopters are the beta testers at their own risk, the manufactures will remain mute and the fan boys will insist that it is always the users fault. Welcome to high tech

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

Here are the ram related reports, and that is only from 2 forums all reports woere within 48 hours of each other i think.








1. mojom@n

I have 2 kits of G.Skill 6400HZ and i have lost 1 stick from each kit. 1 of the sticks that died has never been overvolted.

2. Dayofpain

Originally posted by Dayofpain
[br]heres a nice piece of ****.

4x DOMINATOR PC8888 FRIED
4X DOMINATOR PC8500 FRIED
2X OCZ TITIANIUM PC8000 FRIED.

Im going to return this pos to newegg. (the mobo)

First mobo.

http://www.evga.com/community/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21557&SearchTerms=dayofpain


Second mobo.

Installed last night.

Have to remove power and use cmos jumper to boot EVERY SINGLE TIME. beta bios flashed. Too bad everysingle resistor on the board needed to be straightened. 2 were bent all the way to the ram slots. gfg.

cant boot cant maintain voltage. and this is one that they handpicked for an advanced rma.

later evga. 2 strikes ur out.

2 thousand dollars in ram. Thanks.


3. palese

Originally posted by palese
[br]just lost a stick of Corsair 6400C3DF in black slot, the default volt for this ram is 2.4



4. linflas

Originally posted by linflas

and I have 2 GB of Gskill sitting on my desk waiting for an RMA number because one stick I know for sure has gone to the ******per, and another that I do not trust now, back to corsair for me, as soon as I get new one's back from RMA the gskill goes on ebay, and I get some better corsair stuff


5. sadcat1*

I can tell you in my case no sticks work in the right slots, all sticks work in the left slots and when a stick is put in either right slot,I get C1 and a long beep.

6. lopri*

Absolutely no. :) I had the same C1 problem with one of my sticks. I first thought my stick was defective because I didn't have a problem booting with my other pair. (Both pairs are exact same model, same batch)

After playing a bit with the working pair, I used canned air to blow any dirt away from the sticks and the slots. I also configured the BIOS settings to what I wanted (including Vdimm). Shut down the machine and inserted the problematic sticks, then it worked flawlessly ever since.

7. Grinch

well it seems like my mobo don't like my HZ's anymore...now no matter what voltage I set all I get is a looooooooooooooooooong beep then a pause and then again a long beep...maybe memory went bad dunno but have to get this $hit figured out fast...

8. Futuremark2

Originally posted by Futuremark2
[br]my ram wont even run stable at 1.9 even tho thats what its rated at... try 2.025V

[tam2]

just a plain simple good luck..........and bad luck

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

I have washed the pins on my dead stick just like Grinch, here hoping that my dead stick actually works. I have never had to wash my ram sticks before.

[sierra_bound]

Here are the ram related reports, and that is only from 2 forums all reports woere within 48 hours of each other i think.
There is a big difference between people who have had modules that died, and those who are having trouble getting their RAM to run stable. Lumping them all together does not prove anything. Do you know how many boards have had memory-related issues over the past several years? Lots.

[shawn1998]

Originally Posted by lopri
Absolutely no. I had the same C1 problem with one of my sticks. I first thought my stick was defective because I didn't have a problem booting with my other pair. (Both pairs are exact same model, same batch)

After playing a bit with the working pair, I used canned air to blow any dirt away from the sticks and the slots. I also configured the BIOS settings to what I wanted (including Vdimm). Shut down the machine and inserted the problematic sticks, then it worked flawlessly ever since.

His ram didn't die. You need to learn how to read. Next...


Originally Posted by sadcat1
I can tell you in my case no sticks work in the right slots, all sticks work in the left slots and when a stick is put in either right slot,I get C1 and a long beep.

Again, his ram didn't die. Again, learn how to read. Next...


Originally posted by linflas

and I have 2 GB of Gskill sitting on my desk waiting for an RMA number because one stick I know for sure has gone to the ******per, and another that I do not trust now, back to corsair for me, as soon as I get new one's back from RMA the gskill goes on ebay, and I get some better corsair stuff

He posted in post #122 of this very thread that you misunderstood him! For the third time, RIF!!!! (In case you can't read acronyms, it stands for Reading is Fundamental) Next...


Originally posted by Futuremark2
[br]my ram wont even run stable at 1.9 even tho thats what its rated at... try 2.025V

His ram hasn't died either. RIF.

Should I count all of the Gigabyte DS3 motherboard threads and posts from the first two months of that boards release? Maybe try make a case that the board is a "ram killer" just because it took a few bios releases for it to initially boot from ram that was rated above 1.8volts? According to you line of thinking, that board is a "ram killer" too, simply because there was ram-related posts about it and believe this, there were more posts about it than there are about the 680i (and there is absolutely nothing wrong with the DS3).

RIF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pinto]

i killed one stick of corsair 6400 C3 one week ago i decided to put my P5W64 back and no, the stick didn't work anymore! I change to 8500 C5D on the p5W64 and now i really afraid to give the nf680i another try...

[safan80]

now i really afraid to give the nf680i another try...

is your board the Evga one also?

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

His ram didn't die. You need to learn how to read. Next...



Again, his ram didn't die. Again, learn how to read. Next...



He posted in post #122 of this very thread that you misunderstood him! For the third time, RIF!!!! (In case you can't read acronyms, it stands for Reading is Fundamental) Next...



His ram hasn't died either. RIF.

Should I count all of the Gigabyte DS3 motherboard threads and posts from the first two months of that boards release? Maybe try make a case that the board is a "ram killer" just because it took a few bios releases for it to initially boot from ram that was rated above 1.8volts? According to you line of thinking, that board is a "ram killer" too, simply because there was ram-related posts about it and believe this, there were more posts about it than there are about the 680i (and there is absolutely nothing wrong with the DS3).

RIF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Mate are you blind i didn't say all of the above people had dead ram:slapass: :slapass: I suggest you stop trolling.

Here i will quote myself LOL

Here are the ram related reports, and that is only from 2 forums all reports woere within 48 hours of each other i think.



Update:
I cleaned the dead stick and no worky.


Here is what i have found so far

1 dead stick
1 stick needs 2.3v to run stable at stock speeds.
4 sticks need 2.2v to run stable at stock speeds.

So 4 sticks are bad, I am using my third kit now but in my DQ6 i bought 2 days ago.

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

i killed one stick of corsair 6400 C3 one week ago i decided to put my P5W64 back and no, the stick didn't work anymore! I change to 8500 C5D on the p5W64 and now i really afraid to give the nf680i another try...so you lost a stick of ram to the 680i? as people here say it is your fault not 680i.

[pinto]

yes my board is an evga. the fact is that the stick is dead and i think not to be a noob in overclocking...

[shawn1998]

You are actually telling me to stop trolling? I think you need to rethink your posts. You are trying to create panick about a board because you had some ram go bad. At this point, boohoo to you, RMA it and move on. EVGA has already addressed this issue to you, as well as many many people here, but you just can't see beyond your own nose.

Nobody here said it was your fault, or would say it was pinto's fault his ram went bad. Get a clue and move on. If you think your board made your go bad, then RMA it, get a different one, move on and quit posting BS.

My posts are not trolling, they are simply an attempt to counteract your constant BS, mis-information and false assumptioms.

edit - I see you finally went to another motherboard. I'm suprised by your choice, since the DS3 and DS6's had some ram issues when they first came out. Oh lord, RUN! It might kill your ram!!! There were a bunch of posts about!!! (awhile ago)


Disclaimer - I own a Gigabyte DS3 and use it in my second rig. I like it and am not talking bad about it. After a few bios releases, the ram issues went away.
End of disclaimer.

[pinto]

my post is just a statment.

[shawn1998]

I understand that, pinto. My post was in no way directed at you.

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

You are actually telling me to stop trolling? I think you need to rethink your posts. You are trying to create panick about a board because you had some ram go bad. At this point, boohoo to you, RMA it and move on. EVGA has already addressed this issue to you, as well as many many people here, but you just can't see beyond your own nose.

Nobody here said it was your fault, or would say it was pinto's fault his ram went bad. Get a clue and move on. If you think your board made your go bad, then RMA it, get a different one, move on and quit posting BS.

My posts are not trolling, they are simply an attempt to counteract your constant BS, mis-information and false assumptioms.

edit - I see you finally went to another motherboard. I'm suprised by your choice, since the DS3 and DS6's had some ram issues when they first came out. Oh lord, RUN! It might kill your ram!!! There were a bunch of posts about!!! (awhile ago)


Disclaimer - I own a Gigabyte DS3 and use it in my second rig. I like it and am not talking bad about it. After a few bios releases, the ram issues went away.
End of disclaimer.
what do you call this pointless post you just did.


I am just making it clear to the public that it is quite possible that there ram is getting damaged by the evga motherboard. DQ6 is a great mother board i had 1 before i went to p5B dlx. I am good at overclocking and have been doing it for almost 10 years now. I have never had ram die from running at stock volts before. You just like to argue with people for no reason at all.


! question for any 1.

The Kit i have to RMA should i take it back to the shop or send it ti G.Skill?

[lopri]

I figured it's worth mentioning my findings here. While it may not be enough to kill sticks, this board heavily overvolts memory. (more than any other board I've personally experienced) I've measured vCore, vSPP, and vDIMM with a DMM today and below is my finding:

vCore: 0.40~0.60V undervolted
vSPP: 0.07~0.08V overvolted (but @1.55V the board undervolted it by 0.09V, resulting vSPP 1.46V)
vDIMM: 0.05~0.06V overvolted under milde voltage selected (in the BIOS), 0.08~0.10V overvolted at high voltage selected

Setting 2.325V in the BIOS gave a DMM reading of 2.420V. :eek:

Again, none of my DIMMs died because of this board, but I would suggest anyone to measure their own if possible.

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

I figured it's worth mentioning my findings here. While it may not be enough to kill sticks, this board heavily overvolts memory. (more than any other board I've personally experienced) I've measured vCore, vSPP, and vDIMM with a DMM today and below is my finding:

vCore: 0.40~0.60V undervolted
vSPP: 0.07~0.08V overvolted (but @1.55V the board undervolted it by 0.09V, resulting vSPP 1.46V)
vDIMM: 0.05~0.06V overvolted under milde voltage selected (in the BIOS), 0.08~0.10V overvolted at high voltage selected

Setting 2.325V in the BIOS gave a DMM reading of 2.420V. :eek:

Again, none of my DIMMs died because of this board, but I would suggest anyone to measure their own if possible.
That would explain why some of my memory is voltage hungry now LOL. I think if that is true to every board then you are looking at 2.632v instead of the 2.5V setting. there uis no way i would ever pump that much volts through my ram willingly. when i get my 680i replacement i will check voltages to see if i have that problem.

[shawn1998]

That would explain why some of my memory is voltage hungry now LOL. I think if that is true to every board then you are looking at 2.65v instead of the 2.5V setting. there uis no way i would ever pump that much volts through my ram willingly. when i get my 680i replacement i will check voltages to see if i have that problem.

Man, you REALLY need to work on your math skills. By his post, if a person has a board with the exact same voltage issues, then if said user set the vDimm to 2.5, it could possibly be as high as 2.60, not 2.65. You really need to stop exagerating in your posts to try and make claims that the 680i is killing ram. Besides, all these people with said "killed ram" were supposedly not overclocking at all, which means the vDimm was maybe .05 to .06 volts higher than stock? This could not even possibly have the type of catastophic failures you suggest "might" be happening.

As another side note, the Corsair memory rep on their forums has stated that they have seen zero issues with the 680i in their testing.

Quote from the Corsair rep (aka Ram Guy)


We did not have any issues with the EVGA motherboard.

Link to the thread: http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55136

Again, not trolling, but calling you out on yet even MORE mis-information. The data that lopri posted is a good data point and something to look at, but in no way could that cause ram instabilities or failures of people are running everything at stock when their ram failed.

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

Man, you REALLY need to work on your math skills. By his post, if a person has a board with the exact same voltage issues, then if said user set the vDimm to 2.5, it could possibly be as high as 2.60, not 2.65. You really need to stop exagerating in your posts to try and make claims that the 680i is killing ram. Besides, all these people with said "killed ram" were supposedly not overclocking at all, which means the vDimm was maybe .05 to .06 volts higher than stock? This could not even possibly have the type of catastophic failures you suggest "might" be happening.

As another side note, the Corsair memory rep on their forums has stated that they have seen zero issues with the 680i in their testing.

Quote from the Corsair rep (aka Ram Guy)


Link to the thread: http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55136

Again, not trolling, but calling you out on yet even MORE mis-information. The data that lopri posted is a good data point and something to look at, but in no way could that cause ram instabilities or failures of people are running everything at stock when their ram failed.that was a guess not calculated, Troll somewhere else please.

[linflas]

ugggh, please stop quoting me

4. linflas

Quote:
Originally posted by linflas

and I have 2 GB of Gskill sitting on my desk waiting for an RMA number because one stick I know for sure has gone to the ******per, and another that I do not trust now, back to corsair for me, as soon as I get new one's back from RMA the gskill goes on ebay, and I get some better corsair stuff


I have said this before, it was not the 680i that killed the ram, it died on a p5wdg2 ws pro mobo, the ram died, nothing else, was commenting on your gskill kits, and that I had some gskill go bad also, it had nothing to do with the 680i.

sheesh, how many times do I have to post that.

[mdzcpa]

I remained quiet on this topic the last few days to see what shakes out. After sitting back and skimming numerous hardware forums (including the evga site) for the last few days I have to conclude there is absolutely nothing out there that supports the theory that the mobo is killing any ram.

I'm with the other guys on this thread that only count 2 reports so far. ExtremeIce and that total bonehead dayofpain on the evga site that has ruined just about every peice of hardware he has touched.

Sorry, but there is just no credibility to this theory at all now. Simply not enough reports of dead ram. I see reports on lots of other issues (some ram compatibility stuff and other various issues) but not dead ram. The trend is clear at this point.

I'm off this thread permanently as there is no longer any value to it.

ExtremeIce, I simply suggest you RMA the components you feel comfortable RMAing, get another mobo, and get yourself squared away. Good luck.


EDIT - And, by the way everyone else, cut the bickering. No need for it here. Stay on topic and be civil. Thanks.

[Tony]

Do you guys remember i told you about how easy it is to kill DDR2 if you do not power off the board when removing it...especially on NV chipset boards ?

2 cases is not grounds for a full on panic saying the boards are killing memory...fact is users kill more ram than boards do and especially with DDR2.

I have contacts at NV, I will allert them to a "possible" issue here and have them take a look, for now please except 2 cases out of hundreds of boards is not grounds to say do not buy a product.

T

[Lestat]

Do you guys remember i told you about how easy it is to kill DDR2 if you do not power off the board when removing it...especially on NV chipset boards ?

2 cases is not grounds for a full on panic saying the boards are killing memory...fact is users kill more ram than boards do and especially with DDR2.

I have contacts at NV, I will allert them to a "possible" issue here and have them take a look, for now please except 2 cases out of hundreds of boards is not grounds to say do not buy a product.

T


i told these yahoo's this earlier, but once again does anyone listen to me ?

im gunna start spouting and toating a sign for who i work for then maybe people will listen.


4x DOMINATOR PC8888 FRIED
4X DOMINATOR PC8500 FRIED
2X OCZ TITIANIUM PC8000 FRIED.


this is the most retarded kid i have ever seen, how many thousands of dollars is that and he just kept pumping freakin ram into it ? wtf kinda retard does that. omfg!

regardless if the ram isnt technically dead who the !@#%#%^ keeps pumping that ooober expensive ram into a baord that might be killing the ram.
who the hell does that.. who i ask..

if half these guys paid attention to how the baord treats voltages and ram they would notice that many ram's take less voltage to run at higher clocks, now is that ram overvolting ? maybe maybe not, i havent seen where to check for ram voltage yet so i can t say for 100% certian its overvolting but all i know is all it takes is 2.25v to run 1150mhz 5-4-4-12 on my board and 2.4v to run 1200 5-5-5-15.

if i were doing any type of testing i would be finding out what the motherboard is doing with votlages above 2.2v to see if its voltage control is suspect.

i am truly amazed at what those people do to test ram,, truly amazed and not until they waste thousands to they blame the baord when after the 2nd stick died they should have been rma'ing the baord.

[linflas]

and where are these 15 people, I frequent the evga forums, and I have counted only 2 people blaming the board for bad ram, where are the other 13, and why have they not posted on evga's forums to complain about their problem?

The 2 people mojom@n a.k.a. x.t.r.e.m.e. i.c.e.
and dayofpain

no one else in that thread you posted their, INCLUDING me has blamed the board for damaging their ram.

You misunderstood me when I posted there, I lost my gskill on a p5wdg2 ws pro mobo, and I posted that I attempted to use it on the 680i to see if my other board was faulty, but it did not work in either. So the ram was bad, and needs an rma.

you stated you had a gskill problem and all I did was say I had a problem with some same model gskill as well.

this thread has gotten out of hand, I don't think bashing the board on forums is going to help you in getting your products replaced, which they should be anyway through an rma. It sucks you lost your ram, but I think you are blowing it way out of proportion, I have no doubt your board is probably faulty, and you got screwed because of it. This happens, bad boards are shipped, and as many of us saw, the quality of manufacture of this board is not what i would call top notch, foxconn is just pumping them out willy nilly, so there are bound to be a few bad boards, you just got unlucky.


Yeah same thing I found mdzcpa and posted earlier, but he still insists, dunno

[Tony]

4x DOMINATOR PC8888 FRIED
4X DOMINATOR PC8500 FRIED
2X OCZ TITIANIUM PC8000 FRIED.

If the same board killed all these dimms then the end user is pretty inexperienced. By the second kit the board here would have been in a box ready for shipping back to the manufacturer.

Micron again hit an all time price high a short while ago, im just glad we only probably stood the cost on 1 kit and not corsairs 4 kits.

Guys as overclockers you need to get used to monitoring voltages accurately on the boards you are testing, don't trust what you see in bios as its often a mile off.

T

[zeebedee]

2cents worth,thought u lot might be interested

i found the following info here

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=124709

"I don't know why, but none of the other sites on the web have had ANY issues with the EVGA board. It's getting rave reviews and our experiences have been quite the opposite. I've had three different EVGA nForce 680i SLI boards from three different batches and I'm still waiting for one that works as advertised.

The boards have munched their way through about £1500 hardware thus far - three video cards are dead/dying and worked perfectly fine before plugging them into the EVGA board(s), along with some Corsair Dominator 9136C5D that's now dead too.

In the three boards I've had, I've used ten different pairs of DDR2 DIMMs, five different LGA775 CPUs, at least ten different video cards, four power supplies, and three different hard drives and the boards are so far from stable that I wouldn't even consider using them as doorstops, nevermind in a PC designed for an enthusiast.

I've also had one of the three boards hard-lock in AwdFLASH (i.e. in DOS) during a BIOS flash. I had to hotflash the corrupt BIOS to get the board to work again after that. Both myself and Rich have spent countless hours trying to get one of our three boards stable enough to use and I've even had an NVIDIA employee try and get one of the boards stable (in a random selection process).

Thankfully, I don't have to pay for the hardware that the boards have killed... many end users do, though. Don't get me wrong, things just die occasionally, but for two 7950 GX2s (one being practically new, and the other having over 200 hours of 3D use) to now be unusable in games, as a result of being in the same board at different times is a bit of a coincidence. There's also a bit of a weird thing going on if NVIDIA can't pick a board for me that's tested as working (that's what happened with the third board).

I'm not the only person having issues either, a good friend of mine has another two boards that he paid money for and he says it's quite possibly the worst "early adoption" he's ever done. I wouldn't put my own hardware anywhere near EVGA's board; in fact, I'd stay well away from it for the time being..."

[The Asgard]

2cents worth,thought u lot might be interested

i found the following info here

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=124709

"I don't know why, but none of the other sites on the web have had ANY issues with the EVGA board. It's getting rave reviews and our experiences have been quite the opposite. I've had three different EVGA nForce 680i SLI boards from three different batches and I'm still waiting for one that works as advertised.

The boards have munched their way through about £1500 hardware thus far - three video cards are dead/dying and worked perfectly fine before plugging them into the EVGA board(s), along with some Corsair Dominator 9136C5D that's now dead too.

In the three boards I've had, I've used ten different pairs of DDR2 DIMMs, five different LGA775 CPUs, at least ten different video cards, four power supplies, and three different hard drives and the boards are so far from stable that I wouldn't even consider using them as doorstops, nevermind in a PC designed for an enthusiast.

I've also had one of the three boards hard-lock in AwdFLASH (i.e. in DOS) during a BIOS flash. I had to hotflash the corrupt BIOS to get the board to work again after that. Both myself and Rich have spent countless hours trying to get one of our three boards stable enough to use and I've even had an NVIDIA employee try and get one of the boards stable (in a random selection process).

Thankfully, I don't have to pay for the hardware that the boards have killed... many end users do, though. Don't get me wrong, things just die occasionally, but for two 7950 GX2s (one being practically new, and the other having over 200 hours of 3D use) to now be unusable in games, as a result of being in the same board at different times is a bit of a coincidence. There's also a bit of a weird thing going on if NVIDIA can't pick a board for me that's tested as working (that's what happened with the third board).

I'm not the only person having issues either, a good friend of mine has another two boards that he paid money for and he says it's quite possibly the worst "early adoption" he's ever done. I wouldn't put my own hardware anywhere near EVGA's board; in fact, I'd stay well away from it for the time being..."

LOL. Sounds BS to me.

[hardware1197]

I'm RMA ing the RAM but I really don't want to go through this excersize again. I guess I should have bought ASUS, as was my instincts.

Has anyone sucessfully gotten their Corsair Dominator 9136C5D sticks to work in an eVGA 680i board? I also bought two 8800GTX watercooled, and from what I'm reading now I'm afraid to install them too.

[FUGGER]

I played with the 9136C5D in the 680i quite a bit and did not have any problems making to do whatever I wanted at or below its rated speed.

It should work fine.

[bachus_anonym]

Guys, those cases when one stick suddenly goes supposedly bad on eVGA 680i have to be ALWAYS investigated on a different motherboard.

I had one of those situations just last night. I wanted to load a saved profile, hit F10 and next thing I know, C1 on LCD diagnostic module and long annoying beep. Clearing CMOS, pulling battery, changing slots, hotflash BIOS, nothing. One stick would be fine, take it out, try the other, and C1 error again. So, I took RAM (8888C4DF) out and put a different pair, SuperTalent. Of course, boots like a charm!

Next, I took those 8888C4DF and put them in my AM2 system - booted fine and all well. So, took them out, did some switching around and plugged them into my P5B Deluxe. Result, boot and fine!

So, took them out P5B, put up my 680i rig again and replaced those SuperTalents. Result, no boot, same C1! WTF, right? What did I do? Well, took an hour break and shut the 680i down...

Guess, what? I fired it up after that one hour and it freaking booted!!! What happened and why it worked after that break, I have no idea but it's fine and dandy now :)

That's my story! Thanks for reading :D

[dinos22]

it's safe to say this thread is obsolete

pretty much like the other poster said....DFI Expert BS all over again

[gr8golf]

it's safe to say this thread is obsolete

pretty much like the other poster said....DFI Expert BS all over again

QFT

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

so the evga seems to be overvolting and causing the ram to die. Tony has said that 2.5v is border line safe any higher will kill your ram in 1 week.

If you want to view the problems go to EVGA forums and you will read all the bad news starting to show up.


All i can say to the flamers is i told you so.

[T07N]

hardocp article on 680i (http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTI0NCwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==)

"We have been holding off a week or so on addressing this in hopes that we would have some solutions or answers for you, but those have not come forth. Some of the nForce 680i motherboards have some serious storage issues that can render a system build useless. Not all nForce 680i boards exhibit this problem. The problem does not seem to be confined to certain system configurations as some motherboards will work with a specific configuration while others will not. The problem also seems to spread across all 680i motherboards regardless of brand judging from feedback across Internet forums.

I hate to say this as my personal 680i experiences have been solid and left me with a good impression of the product, but I cannot suggest you buy a 680i board till this problem has been ironed out. If you have a 680i board now and are having data corruption problems, return it if you can and get your money back. If you have already purchased a board and it has issues, I suggest you RMA it and hope you get a motherboard that does not show the same issues."

[mdzcpa]

so the evga seems to be overvolting and causing the ram to die. Tony has said that 2.5v is border line safe any higher will kill your ram in 1 week.

If you want to view the problems go to EVGA forums and you will read all the bad news starting to show up.


All i can say to the flamers is i told you so.


Ummmmm...I still don't see much in the way of "bad news starting to show up." All I see is the same 2 or 3 isolated reports. I scanned 3 days worth of posts and found 3 threads. :shrug:

[dinos22]

Ummmmm...I still don't see much in the way of "bad news starting to show up." All I see is the same 2 or 3 isolated reports. I scanned 3 days worth of posts and found 3 threads. :shrug:
hey mdzcpa i reckon he just never frequented manufacturer based forums such as DFI street or ABIT USA to see how many people have problems with hardware in general

most of it user error i'm sure

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

Here is some info.



Well I had a little spare time and I thought I'd check out a couple of sites where the 680i is being used by a representative sample of their membeship and see what they had to say.

Apparently some of these boards are experiencing some rather major memory problems and I'm not talking being picky about the brands either. There are several people who report these boards (by several different manufacturers) killing some high $$$ RAM ... I'm talking Corsair Dominator and other RAM of this quality level.

These individuals say that they were not overclocking or overvolting their RAM when it happened either. Apparently the initial claims were written off as being isolated incidents until some of those that were writing them off had the same thing happen.

I'm hoping this is maybe an isolated issue that is secondary to some components in some of the boards effected not being up to par and maybe causing a power spike through the memory circuitry...One poor guy reportedly lost more than one set of RAM because he thought the RAM was bad and replaced it only to have it happen again.

Hopefully the issues will be ironed out soon and this board will be realize its potential, until then and before you purchase you might want to do your homework.

There are other issues with the board, but none that are any different from any newly released product of this type.




I saw a post on here recently talking about how the evga 680i might be killing ram. Unfortunatley, it seems that I am the next victim of this theory. I have the HZ's, and I have had the board for about 3 weeks. Every thing worked fine, so I didn't put too much thought into this issue, but I paid close attention to other user's feedback. Last night during a round of BF2, I start getting these odd freezes. At first I thought maybe it was my 8800 GTX, or the the MCP overheating. After hours of trouble shooting, it seems that one of my G.Skills is dead. It's not stable at stock speeds any more, and needs at least 2.3v to run at stock. I am getting random lockups with anything over stock. I'm even getting freezes in the bios (at stock). I'm going to RMA my GSkills as soon as their RMA department respond to my email. But the thing is now, I am nervous about putting my rma replacement back in this motherboard. Should I also seek an RMA for my 680i from EVGA? This is my first experience with this type of problem. I can't afford to have a board that is potentially frying $300 kits of ram.


And for the record, the RAM was a gem before I started having this problem. They ran at 1200 5-5-5-15 with just 2.35v, and 1000 4-4-4-12 with 2.3v.


Interesting that the second slot is what killed off your sticks. I've noticed that my second slot is usually 3-4 degrees hotter than the 1 in the first slot.

I haven't paid enuff attention to the actual voltages on each DIMM to see if that is the reason why it runs hotter. If the voltage is indeed higher on the 2nd DIMM slot, it'd pretty much confirm what mojom is stating about voltage spikes. I'll double check on this and report back. I'll also swap the sticks and see if the temp remains the same on the second slot to make sure it's not just the memory module in that slot that's running hotter..

At any rate, 60 degrees is freaking hot! I'd think about some active cooling on my memory modules if I was encountering the problems you guys are having. For the record I'm running my sticks at 2.2V. I wonder what the heat tolerance of those sticks of RAM you have are.

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

Ummmmm...I still don't see much in the way of "bad news starting to show up." All I see is the same 2 or 3 isolated reports. I scanned 3 days worth of posts and found 3 threads. :shrug:I find it weird that i have been waiting 4 weeks now for a reponse to this issue. I asked EVGA to help and they have yet to respond. It seems that the second blue slot is the trouble as it over volts. that is what fried my ram i think. I am starting to think that maybe the 15 or so people that had there ram fried might just be from a bad batch of motherboards.

[damnnit]

I'm pretty sure this is not user error, it is just several unlucky boards. I bought my evga board the first day it went on sale at the egg and it was pretty troublesome. Less than a week later my gskill died, it was stable at 500fsb for a short while then soon it started dropping until it wouldnt even work at 533mhz anymore. Refunded and tried some teamgroup and it worked so it was probably ram died. Eventually I just RMAed the board and new one has no issues. MCP ran pretty hot so I tried old board again and not many freezing issues not seen on new board. My fsb is dropping quick and i fear for my memory.

[palese]

I just did my third RMA on this board today with Newegg so no one can say I did not give it my best shot, my big problem on the 680i has been BSOD's and having to boot twice to get into windows. I did loose Dominator 6400C3DF on the first board but I do not know if it was DOA or the boards fault.

Aside from the Ram issues and if the 680i has any at all the 680i is a poor effort on Nvidia's part.

I think X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE needs to let it go and move on and put this board behind him as I will now.

It looks like there are some trouble free boards out there and some not so trouble free. I hit three bad ones in a row myself, hell I wanted it to work as I invested in an SLI solution.

From the story over on HardOCP it now looks like Nvidia is looking into the problems with the 680i now.

mdzcpa what a lame response, if your board had this issue and you loss ram you would be all up Nvidia's ass just as dinos22 is up yours.

Well I will get a new EVGA back from Newegg as they will not refund them anymore (I wonder why) so I will sell it brand new for 160.00 dollars, now lets see how fast everyone lines up for this MB:fact:

[T07N]

hmmm, I wouldn't wanna touch these boards if it's killing my memory.

[boblemagnifique]

I killed 1x1go Adata Pc 8500 EPP after 3 hours of test :mad: (i test 7 kits others marks for the article)

[Daemono]

I could say the same type of witch hunt things about 2 certain MSI boards and how they cost me scads of components, but it seemed I was in the minority, much like Xtreme Ice is here.

This 680i is working like a champ for me. It seems to be working great for the vast majority. This board has done just fine for 2 types of RAM I have used. Im not really clear on how this is such a bad board Ice, when the reports are so few.


If someone says their RAM fried, and they say they weren't overvolting, 9 times out of 10 I'd call BS.

[dmross]

Bump, and first post here. Nice forum, lots of great info! I'm happy to be a member.

I don't know what the whole "DFI expert issue" was, and I can see how experienced overclockers could write this off as "n00bs blowing up their equipment" but EVGA has finally acknowledged that they are looking into this issue.

http://evga.com/community/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26392

It appears to be happening with high-voltage spec'd memory. The best guesses are that the board is overvolting RAM but reporting lower voltages.

I lost my 8888 dominators to this board. They were running 1200 DDR2 at 2.4volts - the recommended and SPD/EPP/SLI programmed voltage spec. Was rock solid for 15 days, Orthos stable, no problems. I was absolutely loving the board and my new setup. I never changed the RAM voltage, only the CPU (1.45v, actual reported was 1.42v) and was running 3600 on an X6800 (B2). Then out of nowhere, it fried my RAM.

Either way, I am going to RMA the board in a few months when the problems are fixed. I should have stuck with an Asus board in the first place, as I have always done. I picked up a Commando and as soon as my new sticks arrive I won't be looking back at EVGA/680i for a long time.

[dinos22]

it's been a few months and i can tell you right now that this IS just a n00b issue......you have to power down the mobo pull the plug and wait for at least a minute until all residual power has cleared before you do anything with the mobo :toast:

[linflas]

well dinos22, thanks for the wonderful take on the subject. I have had 3 EVGA boards, the third is in a box under my desk collecting dust. I lost a kit of ram when each board died.

Yes I tested the kits on my HTPC, and in each case one stick was done for, and would not even post to memtest.

Seeing how I lost both kits at about 3 weeks into use with the board, and had not been inside my rig since I put it together, my noobness must have flown from my noob fingers into my case and killed my RAM.

Look, I am sure some of the bad kits were fine and people did not trouble shoot, and I am also sure a few kits were lost from people not handling the system appropriately.

However, I have to say, my ram was at stock voltage, and was never touched from install date. 1.9V on the corsair PC6400C5, and 2.1V on my crucial PC8000.

I am by no means the most experienced guy around, but I do know how to handle electronics and electricity. So take your noob comment and shove it where the sun don't shine.

[dinos22]

well dinos22, thanks for the wonderful take on the subject. I have had 3 EVGA boards, the third is in a box under my desk collecting dust. I lost a kit of ram when each board died.

Yes I tested the kits on my HTPC, and in each case one stick was done for, and would not even post to memtest.

Seeing how I lost both kits at about 3 weeks into use with the board, and had not been inside my rig since I put it together, my noobness must have flown from my noob fingers into my case and killed my RAM.

Look, I am sure some of the bad kits were fine and people did not trouble shoot, and I am also sure a few kits were lost from people not handling the system appropriately.

However, I have to say, my ram was at stock voltage, and was never touched from install date. 1.9V on the corsair PC6400C5, and 2.1V on my crucial PC8000.

I am by no means the most experienced guy around, but I do know how to handle electronics and electricity. So take your noob comment and shove it where the sun don't shine.
you killed 3 different boards and RAM eek (bad luck mate).........could it be something else that is contributing to it :confused:

thanks for the encouraging words in the last paragraph :) i love you too

[Speederlander]

well dinos22, thanks for the wonderful take on the subject. I have had 3 EVGA boards, the third is in a box under my desk collecting dust. I lost a kit of ram when each board died.

Yes I tested the kits on my HTPC, and in each case one stick was done for, and would not even post to memtest.

Seeing how I lost both kits at about 3 weeks into use with the board, and had not been inside my rig since I put it together, my noobness must have flown from my noob fingers into my case and killed my RAM.

Look, I am sure some of the bad kits were fine and people did not trouble shoot, and I am also sure a few kits were lost from people not handling the system appropriately.

However, I have to say, my ram was at stock voltage, and was never touched from install date. 1.9V on the corsair PC6400C5, and 2.1V on my crucial PC8000.

I am by no means the most experienced guy around, but I do know how to handle electronics and electricity. So take your noob comment and shove it where the sun don't shine.

So....why did you keep getting new evga boards? Glutton for punishment?

I burned through 23 P5WDG2 WS Pro boards myself. Figured I would just keep going because it was fun to spend the money. :horse:

[linflas]

RMA boards, it was out of my 14 day return window, the first was "--" post that would not recover through any method. Tried the whole pull power for 3 days thing, nothing.

Second board worked great for 3 weeks also, then DIMM slot 4 died and took a stick with it. Nothing would post in that slot, value ram, bargain basement ram, nothing would post in it. So RMA

Yes I thought the same thing, that something else may be amiss, so I swapped out power supplies on the second board, went with a PCP&C 1KW, just in case something in the old one was causing it. Nope still lost the board at 3 weeks.

My first board was a launch day board, second was 3 weeks into launch. So they were early, and EVGA has had foxconn clean up a few things in the manufacturing, removed some caps from the back of the board, and a few other things.

I assumed I just got unlucky, I also think the foxconn manufacturing played a part in it. I have the abit IN9 now, and am very happy so far, no squeel under load from the caps, this happened on both boards, with 2 different power supplies.

I agree with you guys, some of this was operator error, some however, I do not think was. I may have gotten unlucky is all.

I had an ASUS P5W DH that showed up with a dead sata controller at the launch of conroe, that was an OK board, I really liked my P5WDGS Pro, that lasted me until I decided on finally going dual graphics, and chose nvidia.

That is what brought me to the EVGA, I had never owned a reference board before, and seemed like a good idea at the time, a mistake I do not plan to ever make again.

I did not mean to be an ass, but the whole "it IS just a noob issue" ticked me off.

[dinos22]

yeah i sounded harsh there i guess

my board wasn't from the first batch so i don't know....could be that i just have the "fixed" one i don't know.......it's good to know nvidia was late delivering me one of these boards then hahahahah :D

[Piper]

Guys, I know this isn't really current, but I thought I would put it up anyway.



Here is the important line from the P24 BIOS description;


Correct CPU temp and voltage system monitor displays in BIOS


Now they don't specificly say if the BIOS was reporting voltages high or low, low of course being worst case and sounds correct. They also don't say exactly which voltages were being incorrectly reported in BIOS.

But, most here know that if you plan to push RAM hard then you need to find an accurate method to monitor the Vdim and not trust the BIOS.

My EVGA CLK-122-AR runs flawlessly with a minor 3Gig CPU OC. I am just not into pushing it these days.

Some of you are tremendous guys, Frugger comes to mind, and really know what you are doing.

Some of you are not the true technicians and follow along and essentially trusting in other's successes while doing your best to replicate them. There is nothing wrong with this, but by not actually testing methodically as guys like Frugger do, your successes are hit and miss.

And there are some who don't even have a clue what guys like Frugger and others go through while OC'ing a system. Some of you are really out there walking in the dark with no batterys in your flashlight. I don't mean this as an insult, I mean it as a wake up call.

There are too many people who come here thinking that overclocking is a simple, straightforward, trick, like entering a cheat code in a consol game so they can execute the hidden fatality move. Well, a simple OC like mine is sorta that easy, just a bump to the clock. But as soon as you start playing with the voltage then you are entering the dangerous zone and you should really know what you are doing. Yes, most guys can get away with small bumps to the voltages, but when you take a new and unproven motherboard and ramp up the voltages based on component specs and BIOS readings you are just begging for disaster.

In the end, it's your gear, your wallet, and your choice. I have learned alot about what makes computers work during my years of overclocking experience. I am NOT one of the overclocking gods. But I do know that they are running at a whole different level than I am willing to go to, and I see alot of guys in these and other forums who do not have this perception. They simply don't realize how little they really know and how carelessly they treat there equipment and I feel sorry for them.

I feel sorry for them because not only do they not have batterys in their flashlights. They don't even know the lights are out :eek:

[Wolfsburg18]

I just want to know if these memory problems I have been reading about are still around? Has anyone figured out anything that is causing them?

I just purchased an EVGA 680I, along with 2 evga 7600gt vid cards for SLI along with a OCZ 680w psu sli certified. I will be using my e6600 from my p5b deluxe mb...

[Piper]

The P24 BIOS is supposed to have fixed the probelm so that the BIOS reads the voltages correctly, but that still doesn't mean that individual boards won't be a little out of spec.

That means if you are going to overvolt your RAM close to the limits, you better know how to test the voltage with a multimeter and your multimeter better not be a cheapy tool. Multimeters just like all measuring equipment have tolerances for accuracy some better then others. A cheap multimeter could be off by as much a .5V easily.

[theteamaqua]

sorry to bump this age old thread, but it happened to me about 4 days ago .. right now im back to my old 975XBX ....

and luckily OCZ did replace my RAM for me ... also the board is dead , too

and no i was running at 2.1v .... 24/7 my OCZ 8500 SLI .. again thanks a lot OCZ for replacing it .. OCZ has the best warranty service ever .. certainly better than EVGA

@ linflas

yeah i am on the same boat as u .. at first i thought EVGA was good choice

true EVGA 680i A1 is the only 680 board that can get ketnsfield over 400fsb like P5B DLX,

right now i dont think i am gonna get their board ever again .. ill wait for DFI 680i LP i guess .. .

[GAR]

My board just killed my OCZ 8500SLI memory as well.

[gundamit]

GAR did you also lose your memory running at low voltage like and the latest bios like theteamaqua?

[fhpchris]

My board just killed my OCZ 8500SLI memory as well.

No, the EVGA 680i does not kill ram, but what you set in bios isnt really accurate...

[vladimir]

I didn't see this info in the thread, but according to the evga forums (http://www.evga.com/community/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=31115) there is an issue.

"NVIDIA has investigated end user reports of high performance DIMM failures on the NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI-based platforms. During this process we have been in close contact with DIMM manufacturers and the DRAM manufacturers they rely on to understand the failure scenario. By working with our community, we believe that the observed failure is a breakdown of the silicon in the DRAM caused by the prolonged application of 2.4V on the voltage rails of the DIMMs.

NVIDIA’s own internal testing has observed this failure on multiple motherboards using different chipsets (both NVIDIA and non-NVIDIA chipsets). This issue is not directly related to motherboards using the NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI MCP or other chipsets.

If you are using this type of memory and are experiencing this issue, NVIDIA recommends contacting your memory manufacturer or system manufacturer for additional information and warranty information."

[GAR]

I was using 2.43 volts....back to my good old g.skill.

[theteamaqua]

yeah it has some voltage prolbem .. and yes it killed my OCZ RAM as well

[Ace-a-Rue]

No, the EVGA 680i does not kill ram, but what you set in bios isnt really accurate...


how long have you had your board and what vmem are you running your ram at?

what slots are you using?

[fhpchris]

how long have you had your board and what vmem are you running your ram at?

what slots are you using?

all slots, 2.35-2.5v

[TouGe]

I lost 2x1GB sticks of Patriot PC8500 RAM running at spec 2.3V on my EVGA 680i motherboard just a couple of days ago. I'm happy that Patriot has a lifetime warranty on their memory sticks. They approved my RMA and for now I am using my old Corsair xms2 PC6400.
I also RMA'd my board for the the A1 revision and will probably keep my voltages down to 2.1V when I get my RAM back.

I had ran this RAM in this board for a couple of weeks and had also used it in my DFI board at the same voltages. I'm wondering how much of the blame should fall on the shoulders of the RAM manufacturers. It just seems odd that the majority of the issues are comming from people running at higher voltages. I have used my Corsair PC6400's @ 2V off and on for a long time in two different EVGA boards and they are perfectly fine. I dunno.

[Ace-a-Rue]

it sounds like you need high voltage ram modules just to be sure the board doesn't kill it....hmmmmmm

[TouGe]

it sounds like you need high voltage ram modules just to be sure the board doesn't kill it....hmmmmmm

I don't think its the board at all. I think its the DIMMs themselves not able to handle high voltages for long periods of time. I'm sure there are DIMMs that are better than others and they have survived the high voltages just fine but not every DIMM can be perfect.

[Ace-a-Rue]

boy, what a gamble to take with this board and some high priced memory.

[Severance]

it sounds like you need high voltage ram modules just to be sure the board doesn't kill it....hmmmmmm

There is no such thing as high voltage ddr2 memory. I killed 3 different setts of ram on 3 different motherboards. OCZ flex xlc pc9200 on a p5wdh stick that was in slot 3. OCZ alpha titanium pc 8000 on a intel BX2 mb slot3. Corsair pc 8500 c5 on a commando mb in slot3 also. And would u like to know how i managed this? By running the sticks over 2.2v for any length of time. Its funny when i here people say that they have to pull one stick out to boot. if i install any pair of high end d9 chips that are brand new into a motherboard It will boot everytime at stock voltage of 1.8v. BuT if i run that same memory over 2.2v for any length of time Those sticks will never boot again at 1.8v. I realize some memory specs say 2.3-2.4v But take it from a guy who learned the expensive way., Keep them under 2.2v.

[Ace-a-Rue]

There is no such thing as high voltage ddr2 memory.


REALLY!:confused: i looked at newegg and found at least one 2.4v module...so...never say, there is no such thing!:rolleyes:

[Blacklash]

Maybe nVidia will ditch Foxconn and get someone else to make their boards and graphics cards.

[dinos22]

Maybe nVidia will ditch Foxconn and get someone else to make their boards and graphics cards.

why
these boards are pretty good

the fact that some people killed RAM and think everyone else will doesn't make it a bad board. We see this all the time. People going all hysterical about a problem they have..........if these boards are killing RAM we would have confirmation from many experienced guys and motherboard testers to get it fixed.....as things stand right now these boards are not killing more in more than average amount of cases

[djagentorange]

I just lost a stick of OCZ 8500 SLI RAM as well. I didn't even overclock it, ran on SPD timings and voltages since I got it, just less than a month ago. One is still working fine, though (knock on wood).

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

I am glad i got rid of this 680i i had. I haven't had 1 stick die on any of my boards since.

[TouGe]

I am glad i got rid of this 680i i had. I haven't had 1 stick die on any of my boards since.


It is not the freaking board frying the RAM! It is the DIMMs inability to last at high voltages for long periods of time.

[nealh]

There is no such thing as high voltage ddr2 memory. I killed 3 different setts of ram on 3 different motherboards. OCZ flex xlc pc9200 on a p5wdh stick that was in slot 3. OCZ alpha titanium pc 8000 on a intel BX2 mb slot3. Corsair pc 8500 c5 on a commando mb in slot3 also. And would u like to know how i managed this? By running the sticks over 2.2v for any length of time. Its funny when i here people say that they have to pull one stick out to boot. if i install any pair of high end d9 chips that are brand new into a motherboard It will boot everytime at stock voltage of 1.8v. BuT if i run that same memory over 2.2v for any length of time Those sticks will never boot again at 1.8v. I realize some memory specs say 2.3-2.4v But take it from a guy who learned the expensive way., Keep them under 2.2v.

Interesting...crucial claims there 10th anniv and many ballistix are made to run at 2.2v.....so 2.2v even sounds boardline on these chips
Unfortunately, many of these boards will overvolt if you set 2.2v.....:slapass:

[Think]

It is not the freaking board frying the RAM! It is the DIMMs inability to last at high voltages for long periods of time.


You're wrong - it's the board no matter what EVGA claims. I've had my OCZ 8500 dims damaged by the board - got rid of it and bought the Asus P5B deluxe, put in the OCZ replaced ram and am running them at 2.4 without a hiccup - the board sucks.

[dinos22]

It is not the freaking board frying the RAM! It is the DIMMs inability to last at high voltages for long periods of time.

how long is long because i've certainly tested so many different kits without a hiccup

[Think]

how long is long because i've certainly tested so many different kits without a hiccup

It depends on usage - I had my folding 24/7 and lasted a month.

[TouGe]

You're wrong - it's the board no matter what EVGA claims. I've had my OCZ 8500 dims damaged by the board - got rid of it and bought the Asus P5B deluxe, put in the OCZ replaced ram and am running them at 2.4 without a hiccup - the board sucks.

Uhm, can I introduce you to him


There is no such thing as high voltage ddr2 memory. I killed 3 different setts of ram on 3 different motherboards. OCZ flex xlc pc9200 on a p5wdh stick that was in slot 3. OCZ alpha titanium pc 8000 on a intel BX2 mb slot3. Corsair pc 8500 c5 on a commando mb in slot3 also. And would u like to know how i managed this? By running the sticks over 2.2v for any length of time. Its funny when i here people say that they have to pull one stick out to boot. if i install any pair of high end d9 chips that are brand new into a motherboard It will boot everytime at stock voltage of 1.8v. BuT if i run that same memory over 2.2v for any length of time Those sticks will never boot again at 1.8v. I realize some memory specs say 2.3-2.4v But take it from a guy who learned the expensive way., Keep them under 2.2v.

I've seen it on other forums as well. There are people losing DDR2 to voltages over 2.3V after a month or two on other non Nvidia reference boards. There are also those that are running Dominators at 2.4V on Nvidia boards since November with no problems still. It has got to do with the variances in how these RAM manufacturers are binning their chips. Micron chips are not manufactured to run at 1066MHz and beyond, that's just a stupid marketing ploy that many of us fell for and are now paying for in RMA shipping. Just my opinion.....

[mouawad]

You're wrong - it's the board no matter what EVGA claims. I've had my OCZ 8500 dims damaged by the board - got rid of it and bought the Asus P5B deluxe, put in the OCZ replaced ram and am running them at 2.4 without a hiccup - the board sucks.

your just wrong buddy, DDR2 is a gamble over 2.2v 24/7 no matter what board used just like alot of respected XS members have said eons ago.

fact remains a hell of a lot of ppl who have bought the evga 680i boards are complete noobs and have no idea what the hell they're doing when overclocking ....spend 10mins on evga forums and you'll get my drift. so the apparent result is it's the board killing the dimms.....it's not the board it's ppl killing the ram.

don't be surprised if your new RAM also dies with your non 680i board in the near future.

[Think]

your just wrong buddy, DDR2 is a gamble over 2.2v 24/7 no matter what board used just like alot of respected XS members have said eons ago.

fact remains a hell of a lot of ppl who have bought the evga 680i boards are complete noobs and have no idea what the hell they're doing when overclocking ....spend 10mins on evga forums and you'll get my drift. so the apparent result is it's the board killing the dimms.....it's not the board it's ppl killing the ram.

don't be surprised if your new RAM also dies with your non 680i board in the near future.

It's definitely a gamble, I do agree - it's XTREME;)

[dinos22]

your just wrong buddy, DDR2 is a gamble over 2.2v 24/7 no matter what board used just like alot of respected XS members have said eons ago.\

that's right...........if you choose to run DDR2 no matter what ICs over that vdimm for 24/7 you are going to kill the RAM eventually regardless of the motherboards used.................my RAM works at 2.0v for 24/7......why is it necessary to run the RAM at 2.4v eek

[dinos22]

It's definitely a gamble, I do agree - it's XTREME;)

it's extreme because we bench at extreme not because we run 24/7 systems at absolute extreme....that's just unnecessary really

unless you think you are going to open pages quicker if you run 4GHz on CPU instead of 3GHz :D hehehe

folding....well it will improve but why not just buy a PS3 and be done with it heheheh :D

[Think]

it's extreme because we bench at extreme not because we run 24/7 systems at absolute extreme....that's just unnecessary really

unless you think you are going to open pages quicker if you run 4GHz on CPU instead of 3GHz :D hehehe

folding....well it will improve but why not just buy a PS3 and be done with it heheheh :D

Now that you mentioned it, I actually toned down my PC over a month ago and just picked up a PS3 on a trade - incredible folding power - running 24/7:)

[dinos22]

Now that you mentioned it, I actually toned down my PC over a month ago and just picked up a PS3 on a trade - incredible folding power - running 24/7:)

:woot:

[nealh]

Ok..are you saying the rated 2.2v is going to kill the ram or anything over 2.2v...ie 2.25v, 2.3v.....

Hmm..what the symptoms of dying ram....never had any die and wonder if my issues are related to my ram

[dinos22]

Ok..are you saying the rated 2.2v is going to kill the ram or anything over 2.2v...ie 2.25v, 2.3v.....

Hmm..what the symptoms of dying ram....never had any die and wonder if my issues are related to my ram

there is no fine line here but we know the close you get to severe electron migration the higher the chances of RAM dying.....Tony from OCZ is saying 2.5v is the start of the severe level so you need to know if you run your RAM which are designed originally to operate at 1.8v from Micron for example and binned higher (meaning manufacturers just overclock these to sell them for more money) you are increasing your chances of RAM dying.

i don't see the point of running RAM past 2.2v IN 24/7 SYSTEMS (benching is a different story :D).....i would stick to that max which is a value i personally think is high enough...i can't tell you whether that is the limit where RAM has a much higher percentage chance of staying alive or not though.....

here is the source thread where Tony talks about this

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=124399


and only a week later they release that watercooled RAM with warranty protection at 2.5v ROFL hahahah

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

It is not the freaking board frying the RAM! It is the DIMMs inability to last at high voltages for long periods of time.why is the 680 the only board that has killed ram of mine even at stock volts. Nvidia have confirmed that in some cases that 2.3 vdimm sometimes spikes. In the last 3 years i have had atleast 20 motherboards(a big mix of brands and models) and only the 680i is the one i lost ram with(4 sticks 2 at stock voltage and 2 at 2.5v benching for only a few minutes at a time). some was at stock volts and some was at 2.5v

[theystolemyname]

I think my evga 680i killed my 8500c5d as well. I was running them at spec (ddr2-1066, 5-5-5-15-2T, 2.2v). Now they fail memtest in that board (obviously) as well as fail memtest in a DFI icfx3200-T2R. If setting the memory options in the 680i bios in accordance with corsair's specifications makes me a hardware killing noob, then I guess I should just get rid of all of this and play with legos.

[mouawad]

I think my evga 680i killed my 8500c5d as well. I was running them at spec (ddr2-1066, 5-5-5-15-2T, 2.2v). Now they fail memtest in that board (obviously) as well as fail memtest in a DFI icfx3200-T2R. If setting the memory options in the 680i bios in accordance with corsair's specifications makes me a hardware killing noob, then I guess I should just get rid of all of this and play with legos.

you got airflow on those sticks @ 2.2v?

my crucial anniversarys run pretty hot under stress even at 1.9-2.0v but i have my radiator fans putting some nice air over them so it's ok but i wouldn't like to leave them unattended with 2.2v 24/7 thats for sure.

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

It is not the freaking board frying the RAM! It is the DIMMs inability to last at high voltages for long periods of time.

Your correct it was my fault because i paid for the board how on earth could it be the boards fault. next time i will make sure to ask for a board that doesn't kill ram if i ever buy from EVGA ever again.

[GAR]

i think its a mixture of both........i have had two 680i boards kill my ram, one a P5N32-E SLI and the other is my evga 680i......its not evga its the 680i chipset, on the ASUS motherboard there is a sticker wich says board is only covered under warranty with memory on the supported list because of the 680i chipset, so im sure ASUS is aware of this issue.

[darckcrystal]

http://www.evga.com/articles/350.asp

:slapass:

[dinos22]

http://www.evga.com/articles/350.asp

:slapass:


Important message regarding memory and the EVGA 680i motherboard

NVIDIA has investigated end user reports of high performance DIMM failures on the NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI-based platforms. During this process we have been in close contact with DIMM manufacturers and the DRAM manufacturers they rely on to understand the failure scenario. By working with our community, we believe that the observed failure is a breakdown of the silicon in the DRAM caused by the prolonged application of 2.4V on the voltage rails of the DIMMs.

NVIDIA’s own internal testing has observed this failure on multiple motherboards using different chipsets (both NVIDIA and non-NVIDIA chipsets). This issue is not directly related to motherboards using the NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI MCP or other chipsets.

If you are using this type of memory and are experiencing this issue, NVIDIA recommends contacting your memory manufacturer or system manufacturer for additional information and warranty information.

THIS IS BASICALLY SAYING YES PEOPLE ARE KILLING RAM

AND THAT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE SIMPLY RUNNING TOO HIGH A VDIMM ON OUR AND OTHER CHIPSET MOTHERBOARDS

[phelan1777]

hehehe and I just got a 680I.

[dinos22]

hehehe and I just got a 680I.

oh boy which part of that statement are you guys not reading right

they tested other chipsets......................so we can assume they would have had P965/975/RD600 since they are competing ones and found the RAM is dying the same way

so if you got any motherboard or chipset popular today you would have made the same statement

no?

[phelan1777]

oh boy which part of that statement are you guys not reading right

they tested other chipsets......................so we can assume they would have had P965/975/RD600 since they are competing ones and found the RAM is dying the same way

so if you got any motherboard or chipset popular today you would have made the same statement

no?

I understand what is being said as, that it seems its the RAM and over volting, not the boards.

[dinos22]

I understand what is being said as, that it seems its the RAM and over volting, not the boards.

yeah i guess your post can be interpreted a few different ways

[pumbertot]

i always actively cool my RAM and ive never had a set die on me for a long time, not since I ran 3.6V into a set of ballistix ddr. :p:
ive now been running up to 2.5V on this board into my various sticks and they are all fine. this board is great. :D

[alpha0ne]

And if the 680i was responsible, even in a small part, do you think nvidia would hold up their hand ??? :rolleyes:

I'm pretty damn sure they would not :fact: :slapass:

[dinos22]

And if the 680i was responsible, even in a small part, do you think nvidia would hold up their hand ??? :rolleyes:

I'm pretty damn sure they would not :fact: :slapass:

why do you say that

[theteamaqua]

and yeah just to add another casualty count .. i was setting 2.2v in bios ... for 24/7 speed ... funny how i was able to achieve 1200 5-4-4-10 with jsut 2.2v ...

[Solarfall]

i have no problems with 2.4v like many of you gues have reported that this is the lethal voltage... guess i'm one of the lucky ones. then again my memory is kind of rare outside Finland.

[Hard H20]

why do you say that

Perhaps because it would end up costing them a TON of money? Dinos if you believe the nVidia & eVGA PR/Cover Our A$$ departments findings, I've some oceanfront property in Afghanistan for sale if youd like a few acres.

I never ran my 8500C5D above 2.2v, ever because of all the problems that had been reported on the eVGA board killing modules. My 2 seperate eVGA 680i boards ate 2 sets in less than 1 month. On a related note my XBX2 has a set of 8500C5D running fine now @ the same voltage (2.2v) for a couple months. I have 2 new 680i boards and 1 new set of 8500C5D and 1 set of 6400C4 to install this weekend. They fail again, I think I will just join theystolemyname and play with legos it would by far be cheaper.

Now hindsights 20/20 if we all had our voltage @ 2.4v and over I would chalk it up to electron migration and call it a day. But, it can't be the 680i that's eating the modules like tictacs. Right! :rolleyes:

Let me go find my Nomex coveralls because I know the nVidia fanbois will be along shortly with flamethrowers engaged.

[alpha0ne]

Perhaps because it would end up costing them a TON of money? Dinos if you believe the nVidia & eVGA PR/Cover Our A$$ departments findings, I've some oceanfront property in Afghanistan for sale if youd like a few acres.


Funny that I also have a few acres too that are not needed any more, you want some dinos ??? :banana:

Hey H20 I want your case :fact:

[theteamaqua]

i have no problems with 2.4v like many of you gues have reported that this is the lethal voltage... guess i'm one of the lucky ones. then again my memory is kind of rare outside Finland.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2114691&postcount=107

this guys said his 3r board jsut died ... lol no offense .. but u dont sale a mobo until u actually do thorough testing

asus, gigabyte maybe dont have taht customer service compare to EVGA, or vdroop a lot. but at least they tested . so taht there is no need for customer service

honestly i think most of us who bought the 680i AR revision board paid EVGA to be a beta tester

i have never seen any board have such a huge problem by any of the companies

[fhpchris]

I wish I had one of these lucky overvolting boards.

2.5v is weaksauce.

[theteamaqua]

well just to show u how overvolt it was

i set 2.2v in bios for 24/7 use ... i was able to get 5-4-4-10 auto rest @ 1200 with my OCZ 8500 SLI ...

[Crimsonite]

I couldn't agree more, The expert killed three cpu's on me and since then I will not be the first to try any new Tech. The 680i boards on the market today are all reference boards and the top tier board makers are just getting ready to release their designs. The early adopters are the beta testers at their own risk, the manufactures will remain mute and the fan boys will insist that it is always the users fault. Welcome to high tech


That is so true. Samething happened with Honda and their crappy tranny. They denied the failing tranny on all accounts and was later faced a class-action law suit. Not long after that they announced a major recall on 657,000 units of V6 cars for faulty tranny that will fail and come to a complete stop. The best part is they're giving rebuilt-trannies even in brand new cars...lol...

[pumbertot]

That is so true. Samething happened with Honda and their crappy tranny. They denied the failing tranny on all accounts and was later faced a class-action law suit. Not long after that they announced a major recall on 657,000 units of V6 cars for faulty tranny that will fail and come to a complete stop. The best part is they're giving rebuilt-trannies even in brand new cars...lol...


what, they bundled a transexual with their cars? thats just sick dude. :p:

back OT well still running happily @ 2.5V now for past week, im determined to kill this RAM so I can justify the n00bs. lol. nah like some said I just think you get lucky with your DIMMS, some can handle being run well over spec(1.8V) some just cant regardless of what voltage and speed the companies are binning them at.

[dinos22]

well just to show u how overvolt it was

i set 2.2v in bios for 24/7 use ... i was able to get 5-4-4-10 auto rest @ 1200 with my OCZ 8500 SLI ...

common man use a freaking DMM

[sdumper]

Has anybody actual tried to measure the voltage to see what the problem was or are we just assuming because we can hit high speeds that the board must be overvolting?

I'm not being sarcastic I'm just curious.

[TouGe]

Has anybody actual tried to measure the voltage to see what the problem was or are we just assuming because we can hit high speeds that the board must be overvolting?

I'm not being sarcastic I'm just curious.

There was someone over at the EVGA forum that monitored the voltage and found no over-volting or voltage spikes on any of the slots he was using.

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

Hi. I now have a Gigabyte 680i board rev.2 i think, and i have no dead ram so far (5 weeks)the over voltage problem has been fixed by nvidia now i think.

[Malmedahl]

I was was of those "running fine here" guys , that is until today. What has been reported re: the ram is happening to me also now. Although I don't think the ram has been killed. I think the board ha gone wacked. Like one stick works, and one stick doesn't, then all of a suden the reverse, then both sticks work great, then none, all over the place. Once in windows it seems fine no matter what. But when you cold boot, here go the long beeps and have to re-save bios and try the black slots and on and on. voltage, overclocking etc, don't seem to come that much into play with all this crazy behavior. I think it's something on the board going wacky, but I couldn't begin to guess what exactly. I even tried a bios chip from a BFG board abd it behaved exactly the same way. I wonder if the striker has thi sort of flakeyness being reported?? I might give the asus a try to see if it will settle down at least. Thinng is, (and I was warned about this) all was well for a few weeks then bam! Oh well, it goes with the territory I guess. Expensive territory at that.

Sorry for the OT.


I was just reading trhough this thread when i saw this problem of yours, it matched exactly mine i had on SS and DFI SLI-DR.
My thing was that im using the board "up side down" BTX its maybe called and then the DIMMs end up horizontal underneath the CPU and the evap mount.
There were a very thin little gap venting in air into the evap and socket area, thus creating condensation that stealth sneaked into the bottom of my first DIMM beneath the CPU.

You couldnt see it until after a few days of problems and the copper on the sticks and inside the DIMM´s had tiny small corroded spots wich i saw by coinsidence when using a little LED pocket light.

[Kin Hell]

Considering all the cr4p I had with another platform, my EVGA 680i A2 has been fine untill recently. I thought I gotten over the problems by flashing back to P27 from the P28. P28 let me get an E6600 ES CPU all the way to 3.9GHz & benching with 3DMark06. Most impressed...for about 2 days & then things started falling over. Right now, Im having trouble running a 1GB single stick of Geil PC2 4300 with 1.9Volts up its 4ss! If I put a single stick of OCZ SLI 8500 in the board, I have to use 2.3volts & get random BSOD's revolving around NVNRM.SYS codes.
Personally, I am thinking the mobos Memory Voltage Regulator is shafted or/and it burnt my Ram. The 2GB OCZ 8500 kit never gave C1 Error codes at 1.9volts. No matter how many times I reset CMOS or flash this board back to P27, I get a C1 Error code unless I ramp up the boards VDIMM. Now its got so bad, using the Geil @ 266Mhz intead of the OCZ @ 400, I'm still having to ramp up the boards default voltages but when all this was new, never a C1 error ever!
Just checking the supplier, they are right out of stock! :shrug: :rolleyes:
Ya gotta laugh............

[bench261]

i remember when the thread 1st started and everybody pretty much blamed the guy. but yeah this board is frying ram. my 10th anniversary sticks needed more and more juice as time went buy to boot up. one d9 stick needed 2.3 just to boot at ddr 6400 speeds. problem is, it gets hot and becomes unstable in the super long run.

if i shut down the comp, it would not boot unless i removed one stick, and then i would need to set it at 2.3 volts and reset all my settings, and then i need to reset the comp and lower it back to 2.1 volts. it will operate at 2.1 volts but wont boot up without 2.3 for 1 stick. so i bought a cheap set of d9's and sending my current one to RMA, if it happens again then its definatly the board.

evga said it was the ram that degrades with too much voltage, like 2.4, except i always had it at 2.0

[Leeghoofd]

well you set 2 volts in the bios but how much volts or spikes does it put out ?, my Striker board also overvolts, if I set 2.2 volts I get about 2.3. Okay that ain't much, but my OCZ don't like too much voltage or I get weird erratic behaviour... so I set 2.125 to get 2.2...and have some flow over the dimms that will never hurt...

Too bad Nvidia ever released this crappy chipset upon us ... too many issues...

[dinos22]

i remember when the thread 1st started and everybody pretty much blamed the guy. but yeah this board is frying ram. my 10th anniversary sticks needed more and more juice as time went buy to boot up. one d9 stick needed 2.3 just to boot at ddr 6400 speeds. problem is, it gets hot and becomes unstable in the super long run.

if i shut down the comp, it would not boot unless i removed one stick, and then i would need to set it at 2.3 volts and reset all my settings, and then i need to reset the comp and lower it back to 2.1 volts. it will operate at 2.1 volts but wont boot up without 2.3 for 1 stick. so i bought a cheap set of d9's and sending my current one to RMA, if it happens again then its definatly the board.

evga said it was the ram that degrades with too much voltage, like 2.4, except i always had it at 2.0

nothing has changed buddy

680i does not kill more on average than other chipsets.........the numbers are just not there to cause any concern...........have you got any idea how many 680i chipset motherboards are floating around

and have you ever really read his post.........he's a n00b and fried his RAM because he most likely did not power off the system properly while changing sticks

[Leeghoofd]

Be carefull Dinos if DerekT sees your reply !!!

[bench261]

nothing has changed buddy

680i does not kill more on average than other chipsets.........the numbers are just not there to cause any concern...........have you got any idea how many 680i chipset motherboards are floating around

and have you ever really read his post.........he's a n00b and fried his RAM because he most likely did not power off the system properly while changing sticks

i dunno about that, i never heard much consistency about 965 or 975 boards killing ram, but the evga site has a thread where all sorts of ppl have this issue, and nvidia is blaming the ram. to say this guy is a noob, is calling all those guys noobs, and most of them are running the ram within spec. 3 months after i received an rma'd board for that p25 bricking bios, one d9 ram got "degraded" at 2.0 volts.

believe me, ive read the threads over there including the ones where people dont know whats wrong with the comp, when its really a "degraded" stick. cuz i was blaming the mobo directly for the vid card for having no display and having all sorts of error messages on the bootup screen, when it was on a halfway working ram.

its easy to call ppl noobs or think they're a moron until it happens to u, cuz thats exactly how i used to think. the reference board just had too many problems being rushed out until all the revisions were done, and even then they don't like to acknowledge a problem that makes them liable to something, or finally acknowledges it when a fix is made, or just secretly fixes it. there is certainly an issue though, and it's either the old reference board or d9 ram or the combination of both. i guess i'll find out in 3 months. between the makers of d9 ram and a board that has had fsb walls, x-fi crackling, hd corruption, poor early OC on quad cores, bricking bios, coil buzzing, i wouldn't believe what nvidia says cuz it just screams poor testing or QC

[bench261]

well you set 2 volts in the bios but how much volts or spikes does it put out ?, my Striker board also overvolts, if I set 2.2 volts I get about 2.3. Okay that ain't much, but my OCZ don't like too much voltage or I get weird erratic behaviour... so I set 2.125 to get 2.2...and have some flow over the dimms that will never hurt...

Too bad Nvidia ever released this crappy chipset upon us ... too many issues...

i dont know, cuz it took forever for nvidia just to fix the correct temp readings through bios fixes, so i wouldnt trust what the bios says anyway, and for all i know it could be the minor changes within the updated bios that caused a spike...if it existed. i mean some bios caused cpu temp to go up. is it cuz its actually hotter from more voltage even though its at the "same" setting, or is the temp reading just off? like the ram voltage...who friggin knows

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

he's a n00b and fried his RAM because he most likely did not power off the system properly while changing sticksI wouldn't call 8 years of over clocking making me a noob, and i have been playing with computers for 13 years now. EVGA 680i board to this day(13 years) is still the only board that has fried any my ram and i have had a few 680i boards.
Please state all the other boards that are frying ram?Some links would be great? thanks.

[Kin Hell]

I wouldn't call 8 years of over clocking making me a noob, and i have been playing with computers for 13 years now. EVGA 680i board to this day(13 years) is still the only board that has fried any my ram and i have had a few 680i boards.
Please state all the other boards that are frying ram?Some links would be great? thanks.

I can provide verbal proof that a DFI RD600 board fried 1 stick of Geil 4300. There's a link somewhere on XS about some of the fun/bs back then!
Funny thing was, it was RD600 board #4 that killed the ram, just before it killed itself. All the previous boards had C1 Errors out of the box & anyone associated with Support was telling me it was the RAM SPD that was prolly causing the C1 Error. Another funny thing was that RD600 board #4 NEVER had a C1 error untill is killed one of Geil 4300 Sticks. SO who was talking 4rse where? :rolleyes:

I changed to EVGA 680i, got to 3.9Ghz (435fsb) on the P28 Bios & managed to run 3DMark06 up there. 2 days later, I was getting SB Audigy2 Pops & bangs across the bus but felt it was the chipset amplifying its pain via the sound card. Since all this happened around 12 weeks ago, it's been a slippery slope since, to the point where I was still getting BSOD's with 1 stick of OCZ 8500 SLI using 2.4v which it is rated at. My supplier told me those kind of volts were required by the Ram! - Not true, as the board did post with 2 x 8500's installed with default of 1.9v @ 800Mhz.
My board was an "A2" according to CPUz & is suppose to be free from being capable of frying Ram. Will be interesting to see what Rev I get back from RMA. As far as I am concerned, I RMA'd one dead board & 2 x 1GB sticks of dead OCZ 8500 SLI RAM. Crikey, the Ram had that "toasty-burnt-out" smell about it. :shakes:

Since my first Overclock took place on an Amiga 4000/040 back in 1992, it's taken all these years for me to fry anything & the common denominator for me are the Memory Controllers. They just don't appear to be handling the Frequencies/Voltages demanded & the Digital PWM's, now appearing as standard, may also have some influence on failure as well.
I got so pi$$ed of at my supplier saying it's your "PSU" all the time, I Emailed PC P&C in the USA, opened my wallet (whilst bending over) & prised £319.55 out of it to import a 1KW Quad SLI affair with its own Tester. :eek:
This PSU has been Daddy to 4x RD600 Boards & 1x 680i board & has lived on a UK 250v Mains loop with it's own dedicated "Electrical Filter". The home I live in was totally re-wired only back in 2004. (Home Cinema & Hi-Fi nut here)

I don't think the boards are being assembled with adequate parts. Inferior & cheaper components lead to failures. 4x RD600 boards & 1x 680i (eventually) kinda says, sh1t loads. :mad:

With regard to bench261 saying:


if i shut down the comp, it would not boot unless i removed one stick, and then i would need to set it at 2.3 volts and reset all my settings, and then i need to reset the comp and lower it back to 2.1 volts. it will operate at 2.1 volts but wont boot up without 2.3 for 1 stick.

This is exactly what I saw over the last week prior to RMA.......Shutting it down & then getting a C1 Error just for turning it back on is just pathetic! :rofl:

Meanwhile, I'm back on my Amiga 4000T - so nice to be "Bill-Free" again! :D

[Leeghoofd]

Please state all the other boards that are frying ram?Some links would be great? thanks.

One users claims his P5K dlx is a ram eater too becasue 3 peeps had death rams this week... :shrug:

Speederlander already replied to my response saying probably heat killed one of his 2gb stick, also the other user ran his Gskills at over 900mhz at 4-4-4-12( in relation to his earlier posted SuperPI times ) so he must have used also more than 2.1 stock volts to get there, in case you overclock things can break :rolleyes:

It's a risk we are all glad to take otherwise run everything at stock, if it kills ram then then you can call it a ram eater !!! Heat and electrical components don't go together over 2.2 volts I would recommend a fan over the ram...


On a second note it's nice to have ram at 1200mhz but I wouldn't run those settings 24/7...some users are a bit blinded by some posts of our magic overclocking friends who turn anything into gold... don't try it at home folks unless you are perfectly aware what you are doing :up:

[Brother Esau]

I can provide verbal proof that a DFI RD600 board fried 1 stick of Geil 4300. There's a link somewhere on XS about some of the fun/bs back then!
Funny thing was, it was RD600 board #4 that killed the ram, just before it killed itself. All the previous boards had C1 Errors out of the box & anyone associated with Support was telling me it was the RAM SPD that was prolly causing the C1 Error. Another funny thing was that RD600 board #4 NEVER had a C1 error untill is killed one of Geil 4300 Sticks. SO who was talking 4rse where? :rolleyes:

I changed to EVGA 680i, got to 3.9Ghz (435fsb) on the P28 Bios & managed to run 3DMark06 up there. 2 days later, I was getting SB Audigy2 Pops & bangs across the bus but felt it was the chipset amplifying its pain via the sound card. Since all this happened around 12 weeks ago, it's been a slippery slope since, to the point where I was still getting BSOD's with 1 stick of OCZ 8500 SLI using 2.4v which it is rated at. My supplier told me those kind of volts were required by the Ram! - Not true, as the board did post with 2 x 8500's installed with default of 1.9v @ 800Mhz.
My board was an "A2" according to CPUz & is suppose to be free from being capable of frying Ram. Will be interesting to see what Rev I get back from RMA. As far as I am concerned, I RMA'd one dead board & 2 x 1GB sticks of dead OCZ 8500 SLI RAM. Crikey, the Ram had that "toasty-burnt-out" smell about it. :shakes:

Since my first Overclock took place on an Amiga 4000/040 back in 1992, it's taken all these years for me to fry anything & the common denominator for me are the Memory Controllers. They just don't appear to be handling the Frequencies/Voltages demanded & the Digital PWM's, now appearing as standard, may also have some influence on failure as well.
I got so pi$$ed of at my supplier saying it's your "PSU" all the time, I Emailed PC P&C in the USA, opened my wallet (whilst bending over) & prised £319.55 out of it to import a 1KW Quad SLI affair with its own Tester. :eek:
This PSU has been Daddy to 4x RD600 Boards & 1x 680i board & has lived on a UK 250v Mains loop with it's own dedicated "Electrical Filter". The home I live in was totally re-wired only back in 2004. (Home Cinema & Hi-Fi nut here)

I don't think the boards are being assembled with adequate parts. Inferior & cheaper components lead to failures. 4x RD600 boards & 1x 680i (eventually) kinda says, sh1t loads. :mad:

With regard to bench261 saying:



This is exactly what I saw over the last week prior to RMA.......Shutting it down & then getting a C1 Error just for turning it back on is just pathetic! :rofl:

Meanwhile, I'm back on my Amiga 4000T - so nice to be "Bill-Free" again! :D



My observation is also that the Memory controller is the culprit, reason being I can run 3325mhz @475FSB 8 hrs Prime no sweat but the memory controller I am thinking cannot maintain at those high frequencies because I get really bad Lan NIC performance even though I am on a dedicated Server PCI-E NIC but when I scale back down to 450FSB NO MORE ISSUES!

We need to petition EVGA to get D.F.I to start making their Motherboards!

[Kin Hell]

My observation is also that the Memory controller is the culprit, reason being I can run 3325mhz @475FSB 8 hrs Prime no sweat but the memory controller I am thinking cannot maintain at those high frequencies because I get really bad Lan NIC performance even though I am on a dedicated Server PCI-E NIC but when I scale back down to 450FSB NO MORE ISSUES!
We need to petition EVGA to get D.F.I to start making their Motherboards!

nVidia chose to use the same Memory controller for 680i as they did on the nForce4 Chipset which controlled DDR ram. I'm convinced it's this area causing the burnouts. I also recall a similar issue back on the Rambus days. The memory controller could be upgraded to achieve better overclocks without burn-outs. The replacement controllers were of a better grade but cost more to purchase. It might be worthwhile checking out the assembly plants in Ninja land; - Cr4p parts help to keep costs down.

With regard to getting DFI to make boards, don't they already do a 680i LT board? Going by my past experience with DFI, if your petition was started, Im afraid I'd be a dead man, if my life depended on signing it! :p: