Asus 680i, P5N32-E Sli Results.

[Kunaak]

got it today.

things to note...

1. the voltages are insane for the Vdimm.
all the way to 3.425 volt... or 3.5 if you enable the extra ram voltage.
it does work, and I can confirm it with a pic. :D

2. Chipset go all the way to 2.75 volts... but will not boot past 1.6 volts, under any condition.

3. 1.6 volts from bios max... but with a horrible under rating for the voltage. 1.6 volts gets you 1.47 volts tops. Vcore Mod is needed badly.

4. seems to perfer D9 ram. my cheaper sets of ram do worse on this board then on my P5B Deluxe.

5. when breaking 500 FSB, CPU VT voltage is most important.

7. extremely easy board to make not boot... but it will recover about 2/3rds of the time from a failed OC... thats 2/3rds more then my P5B Deluxe will ever do, haha...

8. 1200 mhz is extremely easy with this board.

[Kunaak]

ok, this is the last shot for a few hours, I gotta go meet my grandma, she's sick today and been waiting a few hours for me already.
just got this board today an day early... and I got the next 2 days off.
I love that.

by the way. 500 FSB... first try.
I know what the CPU can do (E6300 tops out just under 3.9 ghz on air)
so I just went into bios first boot and set it to 500.
didnt really wanna bother dinking around with the low stuff.... :D

anyways, heres 3.5 volts right from bios.

you guys better appreciate the shot too, cause I killed a $40 stick of ram to do this, hahaha....

[Knight]

Sorry about your loss.:p: Nice FSB result even if it not stable. :woot:

[Kunaak]

I dont know if I can get 525 stable.
its really weird. sometimes it's 100% stable.
sometimes it wont load windows.

but 500 is verrrrry stable.
priming it now.

also, 525 might not be stable simply cause of the cooling, I am just testing for now, so it's got the stock intel heatsink and idles at 48C.

as soon as I get home though, no more prime, back to the fun stuff.

[CCC]

is this the "stryker" board??

[ineedaname]

No this is not the striker.

[ineedaname]

what is the max vcore on this mobo?
Show us some more bios screens :D

[erwinz]

is this the highest fsb on out of the box board? anyone tested an E6400 on this board.. :D

[skootyloops]

Wow, 500mhz fsb first boot :) Thats pretty mad

[charlie]

looks terrific except for the Vcore... what were they thinking?? 3.50 Vdimm, lol... luckily you put in the $40 stick instead of the $450 set.

[Lestat]

you gotta be kidding me,, how could they put this baord out with a 1.6v vcore and yet it only gives 1.47v and yet 3.5v vdimm which will instantaneously kill any kit of ram you do that too.
and chipset voltages that dont even work past 1.6v yet the bios has way higher.

kunnak i hope this is just a sample that you didnt pay for

[Kunaak]

yes I bought this board.

More Notes.

running 1T with this board is exceptionally easy.
I can run 1T up to 900 mhz without much effort, and do it very stable.
I am sure one could do a 1T 1Ghz shot with this board, unstable atleast.

TRC is a nice fast way to increase your Super Pi Score with this board.

AI Boost, does not work for this board...

Ntune does not work for this board either, since this board uses a non Nvidia standard bios, and instead uses the usual "Asus" looking bios.

nothing I know of, will show cas, or ram MHZ... or dividers.

Currently playing around at...

Cas 4-4-3-8-1T, TRC-3, TREF 1. all others at Auto.

take Tref to Auto, and TRC to Auto, and this is stable.
well, as stable as one can call something after 2-3 hours of testing.

This Board severly needs 2 mods.

Vcore, and Vchip.

if your really extreme and searching for alot of FSB, then find a way to do a "CPU VTT" Mod... if you can figure that out.
for me, that was the most drastic way to increase stability past 500.

will post pics and such later, including all the fun BIOS Shots.
still waiting for camera battery to recharge.

[-n7-]

3.5V for RAM but low vcore is indeed retarded...

500 FSB off the bat is damn nice though :)

[Kunaak]

Bios Pics.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52917&stc=1&d=1163578362

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52918&stc=1&d=1163578362

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52919&stc=1&d=1163578362

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52920&stc=1&d=1163578362

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52921&stc=1&d=1163578362

[Kunaak]

more pics.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52922&stc=1&d=1163578534

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52923&stc=1&d=1163578534

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52924&stc=1&d=1163578534

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52925&stc=1&d=1163578534

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52926&stc=1&d=1163578534

[Kunaak]

last one... max Vcore....

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52927&stc=1&d=1163578663

[Ibinco]

Omg thats what i call filthy marketing. 1.6vcore :mad:
Asus bad asus :slapass:

[cambrian]

yeah WTH, that's messed up.

But this is a problem that can be easily fixed with bios update, no?

[C3]

I'm still looking for that motherboard, where did you get it,Kunaak?

[ewitte]

I just ordered one from someone with 3 off ebay for $250.

[argonmtt]

Bravo .. can summarize all the bugs of this Mb within 1 page in single thread. BTW the Vcore drop is horrible .. :(

[basco]

Thank you very much for sharing your impressions!

[msgclb]

I have found a couple of online store that say they have the P5N32-E SLI in stock and I'm about 24 hours away from hitting the "Buy" button.

I'd hate to fry my cpu and memory let alone a new motherboard. I have only what I would call an uneducated guess for the max voltages. I know that I sure could use some advice on that subject.

[situman]

Wow massive vdroop, typical asus. Sounds to me like its poorly regulated. I'll wait for the abit or RD600 (not from Asus though).

[ewitte]

I highly doubt that is vdroop being that much of a difference. It has to be some type of bug.

[charlie]

hmmmmm... wonder how much of this is fixable with a BIOS update?

[situman]

I highly doubt that is vdroop being that much of a difference. It has to be some type of bug.

for 300 bucks, it better be only a bug.

[ewitte]

for 300 bucks, it better be only a bug.

You might want to specifiy that as a BIOS bug ;) Because they could have screwed something up witht he design too.

[charlie]

What's up with these $300-$400 top drawer boards?? The Stryker is on pre-order at $400 at zzf.

A couple years ago... Abit's top shelf 875p was the IC7-MAX3, the IC7-G and the IC7...

The vanilla IC7 was around $120 with the MAX3 around $175.

Have capacitors, plastic and pcb DOUBLED in price in the last 3 years?? We certainly know the BIOS programmers are no better than they were 3 years ago...

[ineedaname]

\Have capacitors, plastic and pcb DOUBLED in price in the last 3 years?? We certainly know the BIOS programmers are no better than they were 3 years ago...

Well as a side note the striker uses a cap-less design.

It looks like the P5N32-E needs a bios update or a new revision. That "Droop" problem is pretty serious. I agree that it has to be some kinda bug.

[Kunaak]

I think Vcore Aside... people should be looking at the actual overclocking results of this board so far...

1. hits well above 500, with some trial and error. (still testing)
2. runs 1T exceptionally well, easily into 900 mhz, for my cheap ram.
3. runs 1200 mhz extremely easily. ram thats always been "Kinda" stable at 1200 on my P5B-Deluxe, easily does 1200 stable on this board.

only real problem with overclocking on this board so far... I have no way of showing results from ram overclocking.

CPUZ, CPUID, Sisoftsandra, Everest, NTune, crystalmark, AI Boost...

nothing works with this board to show ram speed, or cas, cause this boards not using the standard Nvidia Reference bios, so even Nvidias own programs dont work on this board.

thats my biggest problem so far.

[pentium777]

I can run 390x9 for 3.5G on my E6600, would I benefit much doing 439x8 instead? Or even lowering to 7x multi?

Not interested in very small benching scores but if I can make a fairly decent difference in 3dm06 or real world gaming then I'd be interested.

This is on a BFG 680i BTW.

Thanks

[Kunaak]

What's up with these $300-$400 top drawer boards?? The Stryker is on pre-order at $400 at zzf.

A couple years ago... Abit's top shelf 875p was the IC7-MAX3, the IC7-G and the IC7...

The vanilla IC7 was around $120 with the MAX3 around $175.

Have capacitors, plastic and pcb DOUBLED in price in the last 3 years?? We certainly know the BIOS programmers are no better than they were 3 years ago...

not that I am advocating these boards prices, I certainly dont think they should be in the $300-400 range.
I got it, cause I am just ready for Anything other then another 975 or 965 board.
the lack of a working 4:5 divider for my P5B deluxe, and the complete and total lack of any ability to recover from a failed overclock, without having to completly clear the CMOS, is really really annoying.
but the P5B Deluxe, is still a damn solid board and a damn fine competitor for this board, so its hard to say 1 of these is better then the other.
the P5B Deluxe will reach 550+ Easier then the 680i will.
but the Intel chipsets are really really limited in thier ram divider options, which the 680i definatly has no problems in this area.

anyways, I am losing track here...

the IC7 days were the best for back then.
but boards these days have definatly greatly increased in complexity and design, like heat transfering PCB, three 16x PCIE lanes, digital PWM's.

like I said, I am not condoning the price of these boards, but I can definatly see why they cost more, cause the complexity of these new high end boards is far higher then boards a few years ago...

[Senater_Cache]

Well as a side note the striker uses a cap-less design.

It looks like the P5N32-E needs a bios update or a new revision. That "Droop" problem is pretty serious. I agree that it has to be some kinda bug.

actually the stryker is littered with caps all over the board.

although they are solid-caps, they should not drive the price up THAT high.


BTW, th stryker does not have Digital PWM AFAIK. It looks like it still has mosfets and coils and all. are they using single inductors vs DFI's and ABIT's 5 stage chips?
can anyone confirm?

[lowfat]

What's up with these $300-$400 top drawer boards?? The Stryker is on pre-order at $400 at zzf.

A couple years ago... Abit's top shelf 875p was the IC7-MAX3, the IC7-G and the IC7...



you americans are getting ripped. :p: The p5n32-e is for sale for $280 canadian :)

[Millyons]

kunnak can you compare cpu OC at same voltage between the p5bdlx and this one......thanks

[ToXqc]

I bought mine yesterday for 299$ canadien

[Kunaak]

kunnak can you compare cpu OC at same voltage between the p5bdlx and this one......thanks

theres no difference.

it took me 1.35 volts (real volts, not whats set in bios) with the P5B Deluxe to get 7x500 stable.
its the same on the 680i, so theres no real difference for that for me.

but I have found one hell of a new.... well... not sure what you could call it...



on my P5B Deluxe, I use to need 2.8 volts to run 1200 mhz stable with my Mushkin PC6400, cas 5-4-4-12.

on the Asus 680i, I am doing the same thing... at 2.45 volts now.
I dont know why...
I was getting weird results, cause I was bumping the volts to 2.65 volts and it was almost stable, then 2.75 and it became even more unstable... then 2.8 and it got even worse.

so I, for the hell of went the opposite way... and just set 2.4 volts in bios (which cause of the overvolt, gets 2.45 volts real)

and now its stable...
I will have a pic of this soon.

so far, this board has a huge learning curve, but the results are very good.

[Millyons]

wow thats really interesting

[Kunaak]

oh my god...

you guys arent gonna believe this.
its now running 1300 mhz cas 5-4-4-12, TRC 6, at 2.45 volts.
32M is now running.

(my Test PC has the 680i, my Main PC, this one, is my P5B Deluxe... since I still use Crossfire X1950's)

aaaahhhhhhhh.... 1300 mhz....

why isnt there anything that will work with this board like CPUZ or Everest....... damn it, damn it, damn it...

[althes]

Hopefully a couple people can get the board and we can see what happens to others.

[DeToNaToR.cl]

This board is based on the nvidia reference desing or it has other desing by asus?

[[XC] gomeler]

What sticks are you using to hit these amazing speeds? It sounds like the 680i just needs to have a few bugs worked out and it'll be an amazing chipset, hopefully the prices will drop to somewhat acceptable levels also. It really needs more than 1.47 volts to be competitive in the xtreme section, my crappy DS3 laughs at the pathetic 1.6 bios volt.

[cpulloverclock]

I bought mine yesterday for 299$ canadien
ncix the best :D

[msgclb]

why isnt there anything that will work with this board like CPUZ or Everest....... damn it, damn it, damn it...
My suggestion is that you contact the developers for these tools and see if you can find out if they are going to support the 680i. Your experiences and needs might get the ball rolling.

[Millyons]

oh my god...

you guys arent gonna believe this.
its now running 1300 mhz cas 5-4-4-12, TRC 6, at 2.45 volts.
32M is now running.

(my Test PC has the 680i, my Main PC, this one, is my P5B Deluxe... since I still use Crossfire X1950's)

aaaahhhhhhhh.... 1300 mhz....

why isnt there anything that will work with this board like CPUZ or Everest....... damn it, damn it, damn it...


man hopefully its not kicking in some devider and running the ram at less than what you think, its pretty strange for ram to need that much voltage less than on another board

[Kunaak]

man hopefully its not kicking in some devider and running the ram at less than what you think, its pretty strange for ram to need that much voltage less than on another board

Bios and Ntune match up.
what I set in bios, is what Ntune shows.

Ntune doesnt show much... like voltages or cas.
but it does show MHz.
and the speeds match what I set in bios, and the results are linear.
1300 is faster then 1200 and such. I've already confirmed it.
getting pics ready for a post about it...

by the way...

1333 mhz is the top I got.
unstable.
cas 5-4-4-12, 2.45 volts.
gonna try cas 5-5-5-15 see if 1333 mhz can get stabilized.

[shogan191]

Kunaak is the main difference between this boad and the Stryker just the LEDs and switches?

[charlie]

So let me get this straight...

Years ago I wished for a motherboard that allowed independant FSB/Memory OC'ing... if your 6600 tops out at 3.6gHZ (9 x 400) and your D9 tops out at 557 you can set the FSB and mhz independantly??

And no I'm not talking about dividers, but separate PLL's to adjust both? hmmm....

:slobber:

[Kunaak]

So let me get this straight...

Years ago I wished for a motherboard that allowed independant FSB/Memory OC'ing... if your 6600 tops out at 3.6gHZ (9 x 400) and your D9 tops out at 557 you can set the FSB and mhz independantly??

And no I'm not talking about dividers, but separate PLL's to adjust both? hmmm....

:slobber:

yes, you can.

you just select "Unlinked" then you have a whole range of new dividers to use.

you set in any ram speed you want, reguardless of the FSB, and it will set the closest divider possible.

it's usually really really close to the speed you want.

even numbers are always perfect.
strange numbers, always results in "Close enough".

like set 1224 mhz, and you might get 1233 mhz, or 1214 mhz.

really odd mhz, results in not exact MHz, but its alot more useful then the usual 3-4 dividers available.
which, are still there if you want to use those too.
those are the dividers you can set manually.
the truely odd dividers, that come from the use of "unlinked" those aren't selectable, and are determined by the ram speed you try to use.
which works just fine for me, cause all I want is ram speeds that are close to the speed I ask for.

right now, I set a 500 FSB, and I can select any range of ram speeds from 667, to 1300 mhz, and it all works perfectly in Unlinked mode, and I dont have to make any changes to the FSB to get the speeds I want. :D

by the way, the multiplier on these boards seems to have zero effect on how well they OC.

like with a E6700... try setting 7 x 500 and your running over 2980 mhz on the NBCC, which is garaunteed to fail on those boards (965/975).

on this board... doesnt seem to matter one bit.
any multiplier downward, just works.
so 7 x 500 on a E6700... should work on these boards just fine, without having to worry about the NBCC.

atleast... I think so, I mean, it works....
what speed the NBCC is on these boards... I have no idea.

I have no tool available that works for reading anything from these boards, other then voltage from Asus probe, and Ntune to read the actual ram MHz.... nothing else.

definatly need alot of work in the program support, before these boards can be used by reviewers and such.
with no way to show Cas, or MHz (other then Ntune) its just really hard to do much more then say what your results are....

[charlie]

great review, thx...

So to summarize, you like it more than 965/975x? How's performance clock for clock?

[84036980]

the Chipset is nF680i ?

[Kunaak]

great review, thx...

So to summarize, you like it more than 965/975x? How's performance clock for clock?

charlie...

hmm, to summarize.

P5B Deluxe Pros:

550+ FSB easy.

Great board for Cas and Mhz overclocks.

Voltages are nice, and works great out of the box.

very user friendly, and uncomplicated, learning curve is very small.

high stability.

P5B Deluxe Cons:

poorly working 4:5 divider, which is a huge drawback as that would be the second most useful divider if it worked...

Zero, Nada, Zilch... Never Happens.... No chance... This Board has Zero Chance at recovering from a Failed Overclock. After a Failed OC, your only option to boot again, is to clear the CMOS... and that gets real old, real fast, if your testing out new hardware, and pushing the limits.

Needs Vcore and Vdroop mod badly if you want real stable OC's.

Not Many Dividers to work with.

Asus 680i Pros: (non Striker board)

Great Vdimm option.

All voltages except Vcore Overvolt, so you get alittle more voltage when you need it, which is better then undervolting as far as I am concerned.
Great Memory Overclocking options and stability. Far Higher then the P5B Deluxe, and the P5WDH isnt even a comparison for this board when it comes to Memory Overclocks.

Certainly capable of 500+ FSB's.

Great Stability.

Great Ability to recover from a failed OC, about 90% of the time you can recover from a failed OC just by resetting and waiting a few seconds.
sometimes you can recover by powering down and powering up.
rarely you will still have to clear the CMOS though.

Cas Latencies all go as low as 1, so theres no limit on how much you can tweak your latency.

1T is very OC friendly on this board.

1200 mhz is very easy with this board.



Asus 680i Cons:

Horrible Vcore options. 1.6 max from bios gets you 1.47 volts tops. Needs a Vcore Mod Real badly.

Chipset voltages go all the way to 2.75 volts, but nothing above 1.6 volts will boot.

high learning curve will definatly get alot of people posting "my board cant do 500 FSB"... not cause the board can't, but cause they dont take the time to figure out the board. it's definatly a board for the advanced types.

runs VERY HOT. Fans are a must. chipset seriously burned me when I touched it. not just warm, painful burned me. This board absolutly needs better cooling, and I now see why theres all them heatpipes on the striker extreme, 100% absolutly needs better cooling for the NB and PWM's.

Very High Price...



so whats better?
well, thats not real easy to say.
like I said... it really depends on the overclocker.
are you a ram tweaker?
do you perfer real high FSB's?
do you want a easy board with no learning curve, or a board with high potential, that has some learning curve?
are you willing to sell a kidney for a board, hahah... :p:

I have both boards... and I dont think I'd choose one over the other.
they are both great for different uses.

[charlie]

cool...

I think I'm going to buy the P5N32-E when it's back in stock @ ZZF for $300.

My logic is that I bought a P5W64 a while back so I've broken the expensive board barrier :D

Newegg also offers it at $300 but they charge shipping, too.

[Raja@ASUS]

Kunaak,

could you please be so kind as to run dual orthos blend test at the highest mhz/multiplier you can, for a couple of hours or more (if you have time)?

Just wanna see what the highest fsb/mhz combo is under some hard pressure, the board is quite expensive so just a little more testing may inspire some more confidence (on my part anyway). If you don't have time, no worries man!


TIA,
Raja

[Kunaak]

already did at 7 x 500 last night with no errors for about 9 hours, but that was just burn in time for me.
but I will redo it tonight when I sleep.

I havent botherd to go for more FSB then 525 yet.
I got so caught up in the Ram overclocking with this board, that 7 x 500 became my testing default.

[Raja@ASUS]

thx Kunnak, if it holds 500fsb in the blend test, that is indeed special..

regards
Raja

[bingo13]

cool...

I think I'm going to buy the P5N32-E when it's back in stock @ ZZF for $300.

My logic is that I bought a P5W64 a while back so I've broken the expensive board barrier :D

Newegg also offers it at $300 but they charge shipping, too.


The MSRP on this board is $249, designed to sell in the $230 range to compete with the reference boards and the Striker MSRP is now at $329 and was packaged to be right above $300 or so. ;)

[bingo13]

thx Kunnak, if it holds 500fsb in the blend test, that is indeed special..

regards
Raja

Raja,

I called and checked in on our sample (retail) and it has passed 26 hours at 7x514. :D

[Speederlander]

I have both boards... and I dont think I'd choose one over the other.
they are both great for different uses.

So which would you lean toward for raw 24/7 overclock performance (in apps, games, etc.)?

[Raja@ASUS]

Raja,

I called and checked in on our sample (retail) and it has passed 26 hours at 7x514. :D


niiice 514 in blend test for 26 hours, sheesh...:)

I wanna test that beast with phase, on an e6600, the vcore droop is a little disconcerting though...

It's a toss up betwen this and the striker....
Until the dfi's touch down that is..

regards
Raja

[Kunaak]

niiice 514 in blend test for 26 hours, sheesh...:)

I wanna test that beast with phase, on an e6600, the vcore droop is a little disconcerting though...

It's a toss up betwen this and the striker....
Until the dfi's touch down that is..

regards
Raja

while this isnt 26 hours, this is all night while I slept.

Speeds 6 x 500 for 3 ghz (stock cooling isnt effective at 3.5 ghz for dual prime all night, temps hit 80C)
ram speeds...... 1200 mhz :D

[Raja@ASUS]

THX Kunaak, I just ordered the striker extreme, I'm hoping for around 450-470on my e6600 on the 9x multi using phase..


regards
raja

[saboya]

Those 680i seems like the real deal atm... But WAAY too expensive, I'll stick to my $130 AB9 for now :D

[ewitte]

Any vdroop/volt mods for this board yet? I was just messing with penciling in vdroop on my P5W before I killed it with condensation.

[JoeBar]

P5B Deluxe Cons:

poorly working 4:5 divider, which is a huge drawback as that would be the second most useful divider if it worked...

Zero, Nada, Zilch... Never Happens.... No chance... This Board has Zero Chance at recovering from a Failed Overclock. After a Failed OC, your only option to boot again, is to clear the CMOS... and that gets real old, real fast, if your testing out new hardware, and pushing the limits.
Maybe that's the case with your P5B. Mine runs fine @ 430mmhz with 4/5 divider (mem @1075mhz). However there are quite a few reports about 4/5 divider probs so maybe something's wrong there.
On the other hand i never had to clear cmos in P5B. In fact i don't remeber how long have i had to clear cmos in an asus board. Just unplug power cord, hit power button, plug it again and hit it. The worst scenario is if u have to do it twice. But never clear cmos. Moreover there arn't any reports about this prob, so i belive that your P5B was a little erratic.
Lastly u forgot to mention the biggest P5B bug. The 1x pci-e issue.

[Kunaak]

I dont think 1300 mhz is a fluke...

I now have a second set of ram here, doing 1333 mhz...
I've tested every inch of this board that I could to find any bug I could, and the results are predictable, repeatable, and stable.

1300 + appears to be really really easy with this board, if you have some high quality ram for it.

I think its the independent ICS for the ram that makes this possible.

[Phil The Greek]

And now the the most importand question(for me at least):how is performance in spi compared with 965?
I have the EVGA 680i and spi performance compared to my ABIT AW9D-MAX(975)is very poor.

[Kunaak]

did 14 minutes and 21 seconds in 32M with my E6300 at 7 x 500, 1300 mhz ram, cas 5-4-4-10.

how does that compare to your 32M at the same speed?
cause its far faster then I ever did with my P5B Deluxe.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52994&stc=1&d=1163709626

[Phil The Greek]

Looks pretty good.I havent tryed loosing my TRC.I will do some more testing at 3600Mhz to compare whith previous 975 times.

[Phil The Greek]

Man TRC makes the deference!!!It gave me 1 MIN LESS time than before @3600Mhz,witch means same or better times than 975!!!!

[argonmtt]

impressive FSB that can achieve with this MB. However, can someone post some results of this MB with E6600 chip .. :(

[Tony]

from what I saw of the EVGA the boards are very ram friendly, they relax timings as you clock up though.
The boards run hot, have ratio's i still have to work out yet also.

1T is where it is at, you can do 1300 but its a pure waste of time IMO and i have been pushing OCZ for 1T parts. 9001T is pretty nice and doable with reasonable voltage also. CAS3 is really hard to do with most dimms without stupid VDIMM, running 2.4 or higher is really not recommended and the level headed amongst you who like their memory to last longer than a few weeks will want to run around 2.2V or so. CAS5 is pretty slick and I was running 5-3-3-4 at 2.1V DDR900 1T for a long period while at the offfice, performance was stunning even with a slack CAS latency so please don't be put off by it.

The only isssue for me was P20 is buggy, I have no idea how the asus boards are but have requested them for test ASAP.

Edit..533 ram 1:1 with a 6400 3-3-2-4 1t 1.8V was as fast as 5-4-4-15 2T DDR800 1.8V

T

[lopri]

Has anyone figured out the mystery of dual/quad SP?


did 14 minutes and 21 seconds in 32M with my E6300 at 7 x 500, 1300 mhz ram, cas 5-4-4-10.

how does that compare to your 32M at the same speed?
cause its far faster then I ever did with my P5B Deluxe.
I'm not him but this board is slower than 975X in SP for me. Below is a test on P5W-DH. Unfortunately I got rid of the board so I can't run the test @3500MHz. There isn't any tweaking on 975X either because the board only allows limited number of timing options. (Big 4 only) Don't get me wrong. I like this 680i board alot and that's why I replaced the ASUS board, but there are a couple of things that I can't comprehend yet. For instance, single instance SP run is faster with Conroe, but dual instances is faster with Allendale.. What gives?

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1759/32m975xpj6.png (http://imageshack.us)

[newls1]

How do you think my G.skill 2x1GB ddr800 "HZ" ram will do with the 680i chipset? Currently with my DS3 im @ 462FSB using 4/4/4/12 timings @ 2.2v. But with the damn D9 bug i cant go any higher.... Im really interested in buying the EVGA version, but really need some input on how this ram might react with this motherboard. Thank you

[Kunaak]

lopri,

you cant compare Allendale to 4 meg conroe scores, they arent comparable regaurdless of the chipset used.

Tony,

you are 100% right.
900 mhz at 1T is definatly a new level to look into for ram manufacturers.

what about making them dual rated?
like PC8500 cas 4-4-4-12 at 2T, then 900, cas 4-4-3-8-1t?
that would be a interesting way to try to start getting 1T back into the market.

I have yet to actually do any game testing, but 1T in super pi is definatly fast. but running ram past 2.2 to 2.3 volts for long periods of time, is definatly not a smart thing, which I definatly agree with.

[nealh]

lopri,

you cant compare Allendale to 4 meg conroe scores, they arent comparable regaurdless of the chipset used.

Tony,

you are 100% right.
900 mhz at 1T is definatly a new level to look into for ram manufacturers.

what about making them dual rated?
like PC8500 cas 4-4-4-12 at 2T, then 900, cas 4-4-3-8-1t?
that would be a interesting way to try to start getting 1T back into the market.

I have yet to actually do any game testing, but 1T in super pi is definatly fast. but running ram past 2.2 to 2.3 volts for long periods of time, is definatly not a smart thing, which I definatly agree with.


Kunaak

do you think the P5N32-E SLI is a better 680i mobo vs EVGA board?

[lopri]

Like I said, I got rid of P5W-DH so I can't run any more test on it. I just picked up something close from my old pics. On this board (EVGA 680i) I get better dual SP with Allendale than with Conroe. Dual 32M with E6600 @3.6GHz = 19 min-ish, Dual 32M with E6400 @3.8GHz = 17 min-ish.

[saboya]

How high you can run voltage daily depends on the IC also... I doubt anyone is looking elsewhere but Micron chips today, and I think they're pretty resistant to high volts... I'm running mine 2.1v daily, but 2.3v-2.4v doesn't sound really bad if you can keep it cool.

[nealh]

How high you can run voltage daily depends on the IC also... I doubt anyone is looking elsewhere but Micron chips today, and I think they're pretty resistant to high volts... I'm running mine 2.1v daily, but 2.3v-2.4v doesn't sound really bad if you can keep it cool.

excellent question

Kunaak..one more question...do you have any sense to vcore flucuations on this mobo

[Turtle 1]

Like I said, I got rid of P5W-DH so I can't run any more test on it. I just picked up something close from my old pics. On this board (EVGA 680i) I get better dual SP with Allendale than with Conroe. Dual 32M with E6600 @3.6GHz = 19 min-ish, Dual 32M with E6400 @3.8GHz = 17 min-ish.

I found your thread at AT very interesting . AMD X2> C2d with G80gtx at high res. The offical review I seen of AMD X2 with G80gtx did not show those results.
Yet a C2D @ 3.6 got its ass handed to it by a 3.0ghz X2. Could you show those results here as many of us would be interested in seeing those results.

[Cooper]

Edit..533 ram 1:1 with a 6400 3-3-2-4 1t 1.8V was as fast as 5-4-4-15 2T DDR800 1.8V
T

Now that`s the most important thing I`ve been looking for.
Thanks Tony :toast:

IXBT in their review showed that this board doesn`t take performance hit with 533 ram and 1:1. Wonder how well it does with higher FSB ?

Kunaak
can you please compare memory bandwidth/latency with async/sync ratios and memory at 533/667 MHz ? :)

[Kunaak]

do you think the P5N32-E SLI is a better 680i mobo vs EVGA board?

yes and heres why.

BFG, EVGA, ECS, and other 2nd tier companies have only bought default reference Nvidia 680i boards from Nvidia, and simply slapped thier product name on the box.

Companies like MSI, Asus, Gigabyte and DFI are tier1 partners that are taking the reference 680i board, and making it thier own, redesigning it, and making it better to suit thier needs.
Anandtech had a interesting little article on this, in thier review of the 680i chipset if your interested in reading more.


Kunaak..one more question...do you have any sense to vcore flucuations on this mobo

Vcore Droop itself is bad, when at idle you can get 1.4 volts, to drop as low as 1.37 volts.
but thats still better then my P5B Deluxe was doing.
so yep, definatly another board badly in need of a Vdroop mod.

the Vcore itself, that too is horrible...
set 1.6 volts in bios, reboot, and you get 1.47 volts max.

so again, definatly a board in need of a Vcore mod.
this is the worst aspect of this board, the Vcore, is in serious need of some help as its really really bad on this board.

but... no worse then the usual Intel board.
never had a 775 board that didn't need a VDroop mod yet...


Kunaak
can you please compare memory bandwidth/latency with async/sync ratios and memory at 533/667 MHz ?

sure, just give me awhile to think of how to actually test that...

[lopri]

Kunaak,

Do you happen to have a 4MB CPU? I ran SP with E6400, and confirmed your finding. This board indeed is super fast. But there is a catch and I think it's got to do with L2 cache.

DDR2-1140 / 4-4-4
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5149/wtfgj5.png (http://imageshack.us)

With Xeon 3060 (E6600) @3.6GHz, single 32M barely makes it into 15 mins. Normally Allendale can't make up half the L2 cache, even with 200MHz clock speed advantage. But with this board, it's actually faster than Conroes?!

Unfortunately my board has FSB holes that prevent the E6400 from 3.5~3.7GHz, so I can't do an apple-to-apple comparison. If you have an access to 4MB CPUs, please run tests. I think we can get to the bottom of this.

[Kunaak]

I really... reaaaaaaally dont want to have to take my E6600 out of this P5B Deluxe to put it in the 680i....

thats a whole lot of insulation and time I had to put into the thing to get it nice and sealed up and air tight, which isnt easy with how little room there is around the CPU socket for sub zero cooling....

[lopri]

I tightened subtimings and got 13 mins 48 secs. :eek: I'm not sure what to make out of this because I could never be under 14 mins with Xeon 3060 on this board, at any frequency. I posted the result in the 680i overclocking thread.

[Kunaak]

maybe the problem is that the bios just doesnt recognize Xeons correctly....

[SLi_dog]

high learning curve will definatly get alot of people posting "my board cant do 500 FSB"... not cause the board can't, but cause they dont take the time to figure out the board. it's definatly a board for the advanced types.How 'bout some tips to point people in the right direction? :)

[argonmtt]

How 'bout some tips to point people in the right direction? :)

Think the user need to spend more time in fine tuning the memory timing to make the system stable. This is my impression to this Mb after going through this thread..

[Robilar]

Kunaak, I have a question as well. I've sold my EVGA board and am deciding between the P5N32-E and the striker extreme. I've also sold my ram and picked up a set of corsair c4 dominators pc 6400. In the specs listed on the asus site, the striker is listed in specs and directly supporting SLI memory (Which all the corsair c4 kits are) up to 1200mhz wheras the P5N32 lists it with an asterisk (at the bottom asterisk says specs subject to change).

Does the P5N32 support EPP profiles/sli ready ram? My understanding is that all the 680i boards do but the description on the asus site is ambiguous at best. I'd prefer to save $100 on the motherboard if the P5N will support the profiles.

Thanks

[ACE76]

My board arrived DOA today :(

Now I gotta re-assemble th P5B-Dlx...Newegg won't refund it either so I have to wait until it comes back into stock.

[msgclb]

My board arrived DOA today :(

Newegg won't refund it either so I have to wait until it comes back into stock.
Check the stock now!!!

[zakelwe]

If someone with an Allendale can post up 32M at 450x8 4-4-4 2T then I will do same for X6800. I think Lopri might have something here, my X6800 is minutes slower for 32M than it was on 975.....

Regards

Andy

[toddm27]

any chance this board would take the striker bios, to get the extra vcore options? from the looks, they're almost identical with the striker having the lcd and extra bling

[dinos22]

did 14 minutes and 21 seconds in 32M with my E6300 at 7 x 500, 1300 mhz ram, cas 5-4-4-10.

how does that compare to your 32M at the same speed?
cause its far faster then I ever did with my P5B Deluxe.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52994&stc=1&d=1163709626
Great thread man :toast:

that's a FAST time for sure >>> better than 965

my run with 475MHz 1:1 on RAM was just sub-14m ......i'll be testing the 680i for SPI performance and RAM tweaking...looking forward to it................

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/1339/3800mhz32msuperpi159v13m57187swmqn3.jpg (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3800mhz32msuperpi159v13m57187swmqn3.j pg)

[DCarez]

Can a Scythe Ninja Original be mounted on the P5N32-E (i.e. does it not have those annoying things on the backside that prevent a backplate-having HSF)

I was going to get the eVGA 680i, but after reading that+ the bugs, I'm glad I'm going for the Asus.

[Hey_Its_Cole]

I have got to stop reading these threads, they are making me more and more tempted to start a conroe build.

[msgclb]

Can a Scythe Ninja Original be mounted on the P5N32-E (i.e. does it not have those annoying things on the backside that prevent a backplate-having HSF)

I was going to get the eVGA 680i, but after reading that+ the bugs, I'm glad I'm going for the Asus.
By annoying things are you referring to caps? Go to this Newegg product page:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131073

One of the pics is the backside of the board but you'll just have to trust Newegg that is a true image of what it looks like. I don't think it's the backside but the heatpipes that might interfere with some hsf.

[alexankius]

Kunaak, nice results, any pointers for or against the Striker vs P5n32-e sli ?

[xVeinx]

Nice!

[Kunaak]

Kunaak, nice results, any pointers for or against the Striker vs P5n32-e sli ?

yeah, save yourself $100 and forget the striker... so far I seen nothing that shows me that boards any better then mine.

but in all fairness, both versions of the Asus 680i are still very rare, and so few people around here have it, so theres not much results floating around for me to compare to, so while the striker might be better... I havent seen it yet.

[ewitte]

Hey Kunaak. Did you compare the BIOS readings / BIOS setting with a multimeter? I'm wondering if the actual reading in BIOS/windows is the correct one or if its closer to what you set it to. If so I have a wonderful chip thats running almost stable 3.825Ghz at 1.30 actual volts load (orthos priority 10 blend... stopped about 40 minutes in).

Eric

[charlie]

yeah, save yourself $100 and forget the striker... so far I seen nothing that shows me that boards any better then mine.

but in all fairness, both versions of the Asus 680i are still very rare, and so few people around here have it, so theres not much results floating around for me to compare to, so while the striker might be better... I havent seen it yet.

Hi Eric,

Quite a complex board and BIOS. I've booted up fine at QDR1800 (450) at 1.43Vcore in BIOS and 1.45Vtt but failed QDR2000 (500) at 1.45Vcore in BIOS and 1.50Vtt.
There are SOOOOOO many options in BIOS and the manual doesn't describe the effect or benefit of the BIOS options, so I'm walking thru a dark room with lots of granite countertops, low coffee tables and roller skates on the floor... ya know?
Got tips?

[ewitte]

I'm not the person to ask. If someone doesn't come up with something for these boards soon its going to take me 2 months playing around with BIOS settings.

[principino1984]

it seems like a great mainboard! with a normal price, not like the striker that I think is something scandalous!

why is the nb voltage problem? I mean does it have a protection to disable or u think is just a temperature protection? did you try with higher voltage and better cooling? maybe the mainboard has some kind of temp protection... :stick:

Great "review" man..thanks a lot

Marco

[R @ P T O R]

i want buy a 680i sli mobo for my new pc.. but i see this mobo have a lot of problems... can i be trusted to buy it??

[charlie]

i want buy a 680i sli mobo for my new pc.. but i see this mobo have a lot of problems... can i be trusted to buy it??

I wouldn't say it has lots of problems... but not every board will run at 525.

[althes]

May get myself one next year or the rd600 board.

[Lood007]

I got my striker on the way... shipping from Canada... should be here by tuesday.

Setup is in my sig.

[R @ P T O R]

well, i have ordered this mobo (Asus P5N32-E SLI)... I hope not repent...i have a doubt for the cpu...X6800 or E6700 ??

[charlie]

This board has a STEEP learning curve... but I'm starting to catch on...

e6400, L632A, 1.47v Tuniq Tower 24C ambient P5N32-E SLI.

[Dumo]

This board has a STEEP learning curve... but I'm starting to catch on...

e6400, L632A, 1.47v Tuniq Tower 24C ambient P5N32-E SLI.Nice one Charlie:toast:

Coulf you run 491X7 and 429X8. It seems FSB <1650 is faster on N680 board.

[Kunaak]

the board definatly does have a steep learning curve, but from my experience, its real little things holding the board back.

the crazy heat of the NB makes it become unstable real fast if you dont care about your cooling for the chipset...

use your CPU HTT voltages, and NB Voltage.

I honestly would say, these boards arent good for the casual overclocker.
this isnt a board, you can just set your ram speed, then your CPU speed, and cas, then go...
its gonna take some finesse finding the sweet spots for this board and your hardware, and its gonna take some well placed fans to keep it stable too.

these boards do get ridiculously hot.

[Raja@ASUS]

same on striker Kunaak, you gotta keep the chipset cool for oc's past the 1800fsb barrier on the higher multi's. I'd love to stick a little tec on the chipset...


regards
Raja

[charlie]

the board definatly does have a steep learning curve, but from my experience, its real little things holding the board back.

the crazy heat of the NB makes it become unstable real fast if you dont care about your cooling for the chipset...

use your CPU HTT voltages, and NB Voltage.

I honestly would say, these boards arent good for the casual overclocker.
this isnt a board, you can just set your ram speed, then your CPU speed, and cas, then go...
its gonna take some finesse finding the sweet spots for this board and your hardware, and its gonna take some well placed fans to keep it stable too.

these boards do get ridiculously hot.

replaced the 80mm on the NB area with a 120mm and it helped, here's some 32M:

[ewitte]

While I don't have a lot of problems getting semi high FSB (I've got fans all over the place on the MB) at about 1700-1720 the memory latency becomes really horrible for some reason. I can go into Everest and show 10000MB/s and as soon as I get the FSB high it goes to about 8300 and the latency is about 76ns versus 46ns. At that point no settings help. I even have to turn the PC off for like 1 hour to get it to go back to normal. What this means is I get really good stable CPU clocks over 4Ghz on my E6600 but anything that heavily uses memory suffers a lot. I've tried slightly raised ht,vtt and NB clocks as well as pretty high settings about 1.5v-1.6v. All the HSFs are cool to the touch with all those fans.

To give you an example at 4Ghz AM3 gives me about 190K at the best but with the memory working fine around 3.75Ghz I get 197K. Also the scores for 3dmark2k3 are about the same.

[V2-G]

can someone help me with the bios. i'm stuck @ 400mhz fsb currently. anything higher, can't boot.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/V2-G/System/asus%20p5n32e-sli/pc056989.jpg

& yes, the NB is darn hot. now using a 40mm sanace server rack server fan on it.

the FSB was set to unlink for the cpu & ram, cos i believe my rams is holding me back when my pc keeps crashing @ 380. once i unlinked it, it's stable for all, cept can't push higher.

btw, can advise on the e6300 steppings that u folks are using.

[Ibinco]

Seeing as everyone says that the NB is damn hot. how are you guyz measuring the NB temperature??? My striker doesnt seem hotter than other boards ive had.

[V2-G]

Seeing as everyone says that the NB is damn hot. how are you guyz measuring the NB temperature??? My striker doesnt seem hotter than other boards ive had.

i've had couple of times system auto shutdown during benching. when i touch the NB, it's scorching hot to the touch. then use a temp probe to monitor it, & readings shot to 70 degrees during benching. got abit worried, & place a fan on it. things then start to get better with the fan.

btw, my room temp is around 33 degrees high, hot tropical island, i would say.

[ewitte]

I've got a 120mm fan right behind the CPU and other right over the memory. Everytime I touch the heatsinks it only feels slightly warmer than room temperature.

[CHRONiK]

the board definatly does have a steep learning curve...

This is my first post here, have been reading here for a while so please excuse any noobieness in what I say :-) BTW I think all you guys are completely insane (in the best way) :D

Kunaak, I see that you say this board is not recommended for the casual overclocker as it is generally tricky, and tricky to pass 500+.

I am considering this board amongst a few others for a new gaming system (my current system is 3yrs old with a 9800xt :mad: ). I am no computer noob by any means but this will be the first system I attempt to overclock. I have a high budget and do not plan to go past about 3.5ghz on an E6600 (air cooling). I realise I can do this on plenty of boards (ie. P5B etc), but I would like to have proper SLI option for future...

Do you believe its difficult to for a beginner to clock this board at the speeds I require?
What kind of stability can I expect? As this is essential for me.

Also, I plan on having a fat 120mm fan blowing on the chipset, or even upgrading standard heatsinks if required.

PS. Anyone free to comment on this.

[charlie]

This is my first post here, have been reading here for a while so please excuse any noobieness in what I say :-) BTW I think all you guys are completely insane (in the best way) :D

Kunaak, I see that you say this board is not recommended for the casual overclocker as it is generally tricky, and tricky to pass 500+.

I am considering this board amongst a few others for a new gaming system (my current system is 3yrs old with a 9800xt :mad: ). I am no computer noob by any means but this will be the first system I attempt to overclock. I have a high budget and do not plan to go past about 3.5ghz on an E6600 (air cooling). I realise I can do this on plenty of boards (ie. P5B etc), but I would like to have proper SLI option for future...

Do you believe its difficult to for a beginner to clock this board at the speeds I require?
What kind of stability can I expect? As this is essential for me.

Also, I plan on having a fat 120mm fan blowing on the chipset, or even upgrading standard heatsinks if required.

PS. Anyone free to comment on this.


buy a p5B Deluxe, SLI capable with special drivers...

[CHRONiK]

buy a p5B Deluxe, SLI capable with special drivers...

But its speed reduced (card bandwidth) unsupported SLI with potentially flakey drivers?

[larsen_casper]

Greetings!

Great thread, Kunaak, charlie and so on!

Any news on the effect of the new bios?

Asus homepage says:



2006/12/07 update
P5N32-E SLI Release BIOS version 0405
1.Improve performance for certain memory modules.
2.Fix CPU Voltage max option goes down to 1.60V error when 'Tri Chinese' , 'Sim Chinese' or 'Japanese' is selected in Multi-Language option.

Find the zip here: http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5N32-E%20SLI/0405.zip

[Ibinco]

I am puzzled guys. Ive followed many different threads going around...but no luck..getting this motherboard past 400SFB is a pain in the ass. I know my E6600 week 29B is a 3.8orthos stable on air. But check this... my CPu runs hotter on this motherboard compared to others(p5b/p5w64wspro/evga680i)

I cant figure out the voltages check this out:

On P5b Vcore 1.5125v bios ------>1.38v orthos 100% load 3.6ghz
on Striker Vcore 1.4375 bios ------->1.23v orthos 100% load 3.6ghz

now both speedfan and probe read these voltages on the striker.. i just cant imagine this being correct. It apparently needs less juice...but runs warmer!?

[adamsleath]

good work kunaak

[ewitte]

Well going off the strap adjustment after 425Mhz I'd not be to worried about getting 500Mhz stable anyway. Too much of a performance hit.

[Yoxxy]

My striker is crazy. It reads the same voltages regardless of what I change. It always say 1.37. Others have it say 1.47. Maybe yours only reads 1.27. It only happens with the newest bios though, going back one will give you better results.


I am puzzled guys. Ive followed many different threads going around...but no luck..getting this motherboard past 400SFB is a pain in the ass. I know my E6600 week 29B is a 3.8orthos stable on air. But check this... my CPu runs hotter on this motherboard compared to others(p5b/p5w64wspro/evga680i)

I cant figure out the voltages check this out:

On P5b Vcore 1.5125v bios ------>1.38v orthos 100% load 3.6ghz
on Striker Vcore 1.4375 bios ------->1.23v orthos 100% load 3.6ghz

now both speedfan and probe read these voltages on the striker.. i just cant imagine this being correct. It apparently needs less juice...but runs warmer!?

[ewitte]

For my P5N32-E I have to up vcore 3-4 levels the windows reading changes.

[Ibinco]

That is one lousy crappy voltage management on this motherboard. I doubt we will ever see this getting fixed on bios updates. Im going to write asus tech a email explaining to them that they are the biggest ripoff ever. Selling this and going for DFI. Sure ive booted to 500FSB but good luck getting that stable.:slapass: man im so angry right now i could throw this crapiola mobo out the window!

[ewitte]

I'm probably going to hold off until the next Intel performance chipset before getting another board. Hopefully its at least 6 months away because I want to put a Yorktown in it.

[Lood007]

I am having an issue with the Striker Extreme. Is anyone else's motherboard temp. sensor broken? Mine reads -55c in BIOS, 201c in windows.
I have used BIOS 0402 and 0505. Anyone else have this issue?

[wwwww]

I use the P5N32-E SLI and all my temps start at around 10-16C and keep going lower and lower to around -50C. Probes are screwed.

Also cannot get memory to run stable at 733MHz. Does 727MHz @ 3-2-2-1-1T no problems, 733MHz won't run stable at 5-4-4-12-2T. (D9DQW @ 2.5V)

[adamsleath]

any1 experienced heat problems with hp's in inverted cases??

[toddm27]

I'll probably set mine up inverted over the next week or so, I doubt it's gonna deal well with it as almost all asus hp's seem to have issue's being inverted, crossing my fingers though

[krislee]

I have some problem on P5n32-e sli with E6600 L628A370.
i can load windows @400X9, 3.6G, 1.575 Vcore using 0302 BIOS
but i cant even load same 1.5 Vcore using 0405 BIOS
when i using 0302 @ 1.575 Vcore shown 1.39 at PC Probe and Speedfan. but after i flash to 0405 @ 1.5 Vcore show 1.47 at PC Probe and Speedfan. i need at least 1.6 Vcore load windows and shown 1.57 at PC Probe and Speedfan. and i getting CRAZY hot temp . i'm using watercooling.

Kunaak i saw u using 0102 BIOS so may i request your 0102 or 0204 BIOS see can i fix my problem?

PS: sorry for my english i'm chinese hope u understand what i mean. :)

thank you very much

[adamsleath]

bring on the boards with better power;
Re: heatpipes inverted: I have now read several comments that have convinced me that inverted heatpipes will NOT function properly - indeed inverted heatpipes can produce +10 degrees c higher !!!!
well; i have this damn inverted lianli case and all these 680i boards with heatpipes :?
could put a/m sinks on nb and sb, but what about those "things" above & beside the cpu socket?:confused:
ahh; i see; i'll cut the pipes with a hacksaw and reuse the sinks around the cpu socket:rolleyes:
oh; voltage regulators are they?

[spookz]

you can get bios 0102 or was it 0101 on the ASUS P5N32-E SLI Driver CD.. AWDFLASH is also on the CD~
=)

[Supershanks]

@adamsleath
I have a lian-li v2000b+ & have been asking same questions:-
Abit: Do Heatpipes work with Mobo Inverted (http://forums.hexus.net/showthread.php?t=93837) I think reading between lines that any mobo including Abit AW9D-Max i975X or subsequent are ok.
EVGALian Li owners plz help post#6 (http://www.evga.com/community/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24005&SearchTerms=lian,li,heat,pipes)
Do Heatpipes work with Mobo Inverted (http://www.evga.com/community/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24042&SearchTerms=lian,li,heat,pipes)
Asus - Posted same question on asus forum, Do Heatpipes work with Mobo Inverted (http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20061214054435093&board_id=1&model=P5B+Deluxe%2fWiFi-AP&page=1&SLanguage=en-us)Asus fiorum is wonderful i now find i can't post there can't contact them or anything, typical. The official Asus view is no.

hope that helps:)

[adamsleath]

supershanks;
read abit thread; it was helpful; thanks.

[Kunaak]

question.

why do people keep asking me for 0102 bios?

[spookz]

Hey Kunaak,

Where did you get a 0102 bios? cause i've only got the 0101.. =S

[toddm27]

question.

why do people keep asking me for 0102 bios?
:confused:


Hey Kunaak,

Where did you get a 0102 bios? cause i've only got the 0101.. =S
:stick: rofl

[spookz]

LOL.. no really.. i've got a 0101 bios for P5N32-E SLI.. it came on my Driver CD along with AWDFLASH.. =S

I once had a issue with booting, it asked for support cd, so i placed it in, AWDFLASH automatically ran and flashed my board with 0101 bios.. =S

[rithina]

my P5N32E setting for vcore in setting 1.5-1.59XX will show 1.5v in bios volt monitoring menu..however when i set 1.6, it will show 1.56v...seems like 1.5-1.59xx dont seems to increase any volt at all..

using 0602 bios atm

anyone got the vcore reading point for me to confirm?

[spookz]

I find all bios's other then 0302, crap... only in 0302 am i able to control the cpu vcore.. though the droop is totally crap... its like 0.1V droop..HAHAHA

Other bios's seem to have their vcore locked at certain V after raising the FSB.. =S

Hope the next BIOS update can fix it.. and what's with the P5N32-E SLI PLUS... will asus allow us to RMA for a PLUS? LOL... seems to be major voltage issues with these P5N32-E SLI's...

[rithina]

I find all bios's other then 0302, crap... only in 0302 am i able to control the cpu vcore.. though the droop is totally crap... its like 0.1V droop..HAHAHA

Other bios's seem to have their vcore locked at certain V after raising the FSB.. =S

Hope the next BIOS update can fix it.. and what's with the P5N32-E SLI PLUS... will asus allow us to RMA for a PLUS? LOL... seems to be major voltage issues with these P5N32-E SLI's...

should i revert back to 0302? i am running fine above 500 fsb using 0602 thr. and 0302 can use AI booster to switch vcore on the fly :)

[Merc14]

So I am looking at jumping over to Core 2 even though my Opte 165 is a great chip. I really want to try overclocking the Core 2 Duo and see what all the fuss is about first hand.

I want to stick with Asus (I'm an admin on an Asus board plus I like their product) so I am ina qundary at the monet. The Striker is way overbuilt for my needs and way too expensive. The P5N-E SLI with the 650i chipset looks like a real bargain but has some severe voltage droops. I realize there are only 16 lanes of PCIe for graphics but that is fine for me as I won't do SLI with my planned 8800GTS for awhile.

The P5N32-E seems like a solid board but suffers from the same voltage droop as the $100 cheaper P5N-E SLI. The super hot chipsets are OK as well since I am planning a dual loop watercooling setup for this next go round.

Questions:
1. After two months would you all still recommend the P5N32-E or not?
2. Has there been any revisions that stabilized the Vcore?
3. Should I hole off a month or two and see what Asus comes out with as

Thanks for any advice and great info on this thread to date. In fact it is just about the only info out there.

[rithina]

So I am looking at jumping over to Core 2 even though my Opte 165 is a great chip. I really want to try overclocking the Core 2 Duo and see what all the fuss is about first hand.

I want to stick with Asus (I'm an admin on an Asus board plus I like their product) so I am ina qundary at the monet. The Striker is way overbuilt for my needs and way too expensive. The P5N-E SLI with the 650i chipset looks like a real bargain but has some severe voltage droops. I realize there are only 16 lanes of PCIe for graphics but that is fine for me as I won't do SLI with my planned 8800GTS for awhile.

The P5N32-E seems like a solid board but suffers from the same voltage droop as the $100 cheaper P5N-E SLI. The super hot chipsets are OK as well since I am planning a dual loop watercooling setup for this next go round.

Questions:
1. After two months would you all still recommend the P5N32-E or not?
2. Has there been any revisions that stabilized the Vcore?
3. Should I hole off a month or two and see what Asus comes out with as

Thanks for any advice and great info on this thread to date. In fact it is just about the only info out there.

A1. Yes, unless kentsfield dont do well
A2. not that i known of
A3. Get it if u need 1 now..

as for vdroop, it is the lowest i tested using DMM...i see vdrop is abt 0.01-0.02v only.. i dont understand why ppl mention it has high vdroop..

[Merc14]

.01-.02 is very good. In earlier posts I had read it was >.1v Kentsfield isn't a big concern for me I really want to put a 4300 in there, when they come out, and push it to 4000MHz if possible. That's a 443 FSB speed. It seems the P5N32-E is capable of that or am I mistaken?

[aceuk]

can some one tell me if this board is any good?Asus P5N32-E SLI PLUS C55

[Kunaak]

the P5N32-E SLI Plus, is the reason the regular P5N32-E SLI was discontinued.

apparantly, its a improved version of this board.
thats all I heard so far.
havent seen a pic, or even have a clue how the + version is better then this version, but thats why its no longer on the Asus website, it was discontinued and being updated.

[Merc14]

Where did you see that a P5N32-E SLI Plus is being released? Disregard, I'll google me ownself. :)

[aceuk]

Where did you see that a P5N32-E SLI Plus is being released? Disregard, I'll google me ownself. :)

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=531222

[Kunaak]

the Plus version has some upgraded caps so I can see...

I also hear, alittle of the PCB has been upgraded for better power... but I really dont know that for fact. just trying to remember the tiny bits of info I heard about this new version over the last few weeks.

[aceuk]

the Plus version has some upgraded caps so I can see...

I also hear, alittle of the PCB has been upgraded for better power... but I really dont know that for fact. just trying to remember the tiny bits of info I heard about this new version over the last few weeks.
just found this
The ASUS P5N32-E SLI is under going an update to the Plus version that features revised electrical components, BIOS changes, and new accessory items.

[spookz]

So if the P5N32-E SLI is discontinued.. what about the people who currently have one? ASUS hasnt released a proper unbuggy bios for the P5N32-SLI yet.. other 680i boards seem to be getting bios updates.. (eVGA, Striker)

And has anyone tried to flash the P5N32-E SLI PLUS bios onto the P5N32-SLI?

[aceuk]

the Plus version has some upgraded caps so I can see...

I also hear, alittle of the PCB has been upgraded for better power... but I really dont know that for fact. just trying to remember the tiny bits of info I heard about this new version over the last few weeks.

do u think this board would be a good overclocker?
i have a e6400 or should i go for the AsusP5N-E SLI NF650i SLi

[Merc14]

AsusP5N-E SLI NF650i SLI was getting 500MHz FSb speeds. The only real issue I have with it is the 4 phase voltage which leads to huge voltage droops. But, for $150 and a great overclocker it is the way to go on a budget. Pair it with the upcoming 4300 and you'll have a 3.6GHz C2D setup for under $300.

[Harshal]

SAD, ASUS really went down with Buggy BIOS for C2D boards!!
What about all of us now??
Need a Good BIOS atleast.

[spookz]

bios 0702 is out for P5N32-E SLI... =)

It still has Vcore issues =)

But it seems stable so far? =S

[adamsleath]

the Plus version has some upgraded caps so I can see...

I also hear, alittle of the PCB has been upgraded for better power... but I really dont know that for fact. just trying to remember the tiny bits of info I heard about this new version over the last few weeks.

so who's getting a hold of one of these plus things?...sounds hopeful

[Merc14]

They're not available yet.

[MavT]

I just cancelled my order for a P5N32-SLI, and ordered a P5N32-E SLI Plus. I hope it turns out good.

[TuKo]

0702 Changelog :

1. Enhance memory compatibility
2. Fixed power Fan can't work after S3.
3. Set DDR2 Termination Max default Votlage to 1.25V (Memory Voltage is 2.5V)
4. Add patch to support Creative X-FI sound Card
5. Speed up S3 resume time.
6. Change CopyRight year from 2006 to 2007.

[NiCKE^]

They're not available yet.

Yes they are. I'm going to get one next week and it's being shipped to the shop as we speak.

[adamsleath]

https://www.nintek.com.au/x/scripts/prodview.asp?idProduct=8922

aussieland preorder...remember computer stuff very expensive downunder...

[Robilar]

Where the heck is the 0702 bios available for download?

[msgclb]

https://www.nintek.com.au/x/scripts/prodview.asp?idProduct=8922

aussieland preorder...remember computer stuff very expensive downunder...
Did you notice the name used for the Plus board?

Asus P5N32-E PLUS SLI: nForce® 680i SLI™ Rev2

[Nilson]

Kunaak,

the Plus version has some upgraded caps so I can see...
one more thing - it's not just an "upgrade"... take a closer look near sata sockets - old caps removed and new added on NEW place.
Pics: http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2905&p=3

no electrolytic caps on PLUS version, only tantalum and conductive polymer.

So, I think if we will have more detail pics - we will be able to find more new electric stuff on this board.

Also - there are no Asus Striker hidden labels...

and the last thing: it's not C55XE (marked as C55-SLIX16N-A2 or NF680I-SLI-N-A2) as on non-Plus version. It's C55 which marked as C55-SLIX8N-A2.
http://strony.aster.pl/pmpcfg/ASUS_P5N32-E_SLI_PLUS/p5n32e-sli-plus3.jpg

So, C55XE only on Striker and P5N32-E non-PLUS.


guys... I bought P5N32-E SLI for 269$ from mwave.com... now PLUS version with downgrade chipset for 309$? is it joke? :slapass:

[spookz]

Where the heck is the 0702 bios available for download?

here you go mate!
ASUS's FTP Servers.. (ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5N32-E%20SLI)

wasn't listed on support website yet! =D

[spookz]

Kunaak,

one more thing - it's not just an "upgrade"... take a closer look near sata sockets - old caps removed and new added on NEW place.
Pics: http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2905&p=3

no electrolytic caps on PLUS version, only tantalum and conductive polymer.

So, I think if we will have more detail pics - we will be able to find more new electric stuff on this board.

Also - there are no Asus Striker hidden labels...

and the last thing: it's not C55XE (marked as C55-SLIX16N-A2 or NF680I-SLI-N-A2) as on non-Plus version. It's C55 which marked as C55-SLIX8N-A2.
http://strony.aster.pl/pmpcfg/ASUS_P5N32-E_SLI_PLUS/p5n32e-sli-plus3.jpg

So, C55XE only on Striker and P5N32-E non-PLUS.


guys... I bought P5N32-E SLI for 269$ from mwave.com... now PLUS version with downgrade chipset for 309$? is it joke? :slapass:

LOL Nice find! i was wondering why the P5N32-E PLUS was listed cheaper then the P5N32-E.. now i see why!~

i love my P5N32-E.. i just need ASUS to work on a bios that fixes the VCORE Locks and Strap issueS.. =D

[Nilson]

one has dual true 16x bandwidth for pci-ex16 and one has only 8x each.. =)
you know... PLUS version marked as 16x SLI... I'm sure it has at least two 16x...

finally found: manual from PLUS version says NVIDIA&#174; nForce&#174; Dual PCI-E x 16

Asus page is empty for this chipset now.
http://www.asus.com/products3.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=485&slname=NVIDIA%C2%AE%20nForce%C2%AE%20Dual%20PCI-E%20x%2016

[spookz]

LOL.. ok my bad.. just sort of sounded like it.. its too early in the morning here in Australia to think properly... HAHA

[adamsleath]

Kunaak,

one more thing - it's not just an "upgrade"... take a closer look near sata sockets - old caps removed and new added on NEW place.
Pics: http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2905&p=3

no electrolytic caps on PLUS version, only tantalum and conductive polymer.

So, I think if we will have more detail pics - we will be able to find more new electric stuff on this board.

Also - there are no Asus Striker hidden labels...

and the last thing: it's not C55XE (marked as C55-SLIX16N-A2 or NF680I-SLI-N-A2) as on non-Plus version. It's C55 which marked as C55-SLIX8N-A2.
http://strony.aster.pl/pmpcfg/ASUS_P5N32-E_SLI_PLUS/p5n32e-sli-plus3.jpg

So, C55XE only on Striker and P5N32-E non-PLUS.


guys... I bought P5N32-E SLI for 269$ from mwave.com... now PLUS version with downgrade chipset for 309$? is it joke? :slapass:


309 AUD ..not USD...prices for first p5n32-e here are 350-400 AUD

[Nilson]

309 AUD ..not USD...prices for first p5n32-e here are 350-400 AUD
:confused:

http://www.hardwaretycoon.de/Home/mode=article/art_nr=A_1327375
221 euro.

http://www.excaliberpc.com/Asus_P5N32-E_SLI_Plus_LGA_775_NVIDIA/P5N32-E_SLI_Plus/partinfo-id-574111.html
299$ + 6$ shipping.
"SKU:
P5N32-E SLI Plus
Soft ETA : 2-3 Weeks

This item will replace Asus P5N32-E SLI"

:eek: :slobber: as I said on Asus forum about 2 weeks ago - P5N32-E SLI canceled?

[adamsleath]

i'm not in europe or north america...i visit these forums because australia is so far behind in getting new stuff..and i like to see wots in the pipeline

[Robilar]

I'm curious to see what the 0702 bios will do. I'm a little leery of installing it as I read on the Asus forums that several users couldn't reboot their computers after flashing to the new bios.

[spookz]

I'm curious to see what the 0702 bios will do. I'm a little leery of installing it as I read on the Asus forums that several users couldn't reboot their computers after flashing to the new bios.

I'm currently on the 0702 Bios. I had no rebooting issues after updating!

I updated via the standard dos n floppy disk way using AWDFLASH 1.19.. =)

It still has Vcore Locking issues.. =)

[sdumper]

I'm curious to see what the 0702 bios will do. I'm a little leery of installing it as I read on the Asus forums that several users couldn't reboot their computers after flashing to the new bios.

0402 is better imo

[Robilar]

0402 is better imo


To my knowledge, there never has been an 0402 for the P5N32-E.

[spookz]

LOL, i think he means 0405.. or has he got some kind of unreleased beta bios (0402?)..

[spookz]

Or he's talking about 0402 for the P5N32-E SLI PLUS.. But according to the log files.. 0702 (P5N32-E SLI) updates the same things as 0402 (P5N32-E SLI PLUS)

[Robilar]

OK, the bios 0702 was a huge mistake. I flashed the bios up to the new version. It flashed successfully but upon reboot the system would not post. I ran through the usual steps, cmos flash, removing battery for hours etc. Nothing worked. Called asus and they said they could sell me a bios eprom chip and courier it to Canada (Argh!) or I could rma the board. For the heck of it I switched out the ram and cpu ( I have an old celeron chip and a 512 stick of kingston ddr2 I use for testing) and lo and behold it booted! I flashed the bios back to 0602 and re-installed my hardware and its all running fine and stable again.

Be very careful with this bios and C2D chips. It definitely has issues. I checked the asus forum afterwards and there were a number of people that had the same problem (Fortunately someone tried a cpu change to an older model and then posted their success).

[G.Foyle]

I'm haven't posted yet but i'm closely watching this topic from the beginning.
I have flashed 0702 (from 0302, used EZ Flash & USB drive) and have no problems. I haven't tested OC yet but it seems to be far more stable than 0302 (no rebooting or random crashes), and the sound is finally clear (i had some strange noise on 0302). But it's not perfect - the crashes are less frequent but still present. First i thought it was because of my GeIL memory (2x 1GB PC2-6400) - it's not on QVL - but it seems taht mem is OK and tyhe issue is not related to it.

By the way, when I set FSB other than stock (266) ASUS Probe shows an alert about DDR2 Termination Voltage - it's ~0.95V on stock FSB and ~1.10V on any other FSB. When i try to set mem timings to what the specs say (4-4-4-12) mem gets very hot and is unstable, is that because of too high termination voltage? Could anyone tell me what's 'DDR2 Termination Voltage' ??

regards

[Lood007]

Termination voltage is half of vDIMM.

[G.Foyle]

But what does it do? I know vdimm is the basic voltage on all transistors, the higher it is the faster they can switch, the greater the current, the hotter they get. But why does it change on different FSB?

[Robilar]

I'm haven't posted yet but i'm closely watching this topic from the beginning.
I have flashed 0702 (from 0302, used EZ Flash & USB drive) and have no problems. I haven't tested OC yet but it seems to be far more stable than 0302 (no rebooting or random crashes), and the sound is finally clear (i had some strange noise on 0302). But it's not perfect - the crashes are less frequent but still present. First i thought it was because of my GeIL memory (2x 1GB PC2-6400) - it's not on QVL - but it seems taht mem is OK and tyhe issue is not related to it.

By the way, when I set FSB other than stock (266) ASUS Probe shows an alert about DDR2 Termination Voltage - it's ~0.95V on stock FSB and ~1.10V on any other FSB. When i try to set mem timings to what the specs say (4-4-4-12) mem gets very hot and is unstable, is that because of too high termination voltage? Could anyone tell me what's 'DDR2 Termination Voltage' ??

regards


Its weird. I've never had a single lock up or crash on this board (other than when messing with overclocks). The 0602 bios has been very stable (as was the 0302 before it). I went ot 0702 because it would possibly allow greater voltage control and ended up with a huge mess.

Its strange that the board booted no problem with a non-c2d chip and allowed me to reflash back to 0602. I think I'll wait until there is a non-beta update. Now that they are listing it in the regular asus downloads we'll see how many people have issues.

[G H Z]

FSB is not a problem with this board, here's couple of PI 1M results showing roughly the performance between 10/11 multi. Both of these are untweaked aside from Maxmem - more testing is required for 1M. 32M testing reveals slower performance vs. 975 even with careful system tweaking.

487 FSB 1:1
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/canny/487-FSB.png

442 FSB 1:1
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/canny/10-4061M.png

[Phil The Greek]

FSB is not a problem with this board, here's couple of PI 1M results showing roughly the performance between 10/11 multi. Both of these are untweaked aside from Maxmem - more testing is required for 1M. 32M testing reveals slower performance vs. 975 even with careful system tweaking.

487 FSB 1:1
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/canny/487-FSB.png

442 FSB 1:1
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/canny/10-4061M.png
Can you post some resaults booted with lower than 424fsb?

[G H Z]

Hi Phil,

The faster result is 424 boot, then Clockgen. 487mhz was booted 460 (1840 quad) if I remember right. I need to try 424 boot 10 multi & CG to 487 for a better compare ;)

[Phil The Greek]

Hi Phil,

The faster result is 424 boot, then Clockgen. 487mhz was booted 460 (1840 quad) if I remember right. I need to try 424 boot 10 multi & CG to 487 for a better compare ;)
Hi G H Z,
yes I beleave the resaults would be interesting.I am doing some tests @3700Mhz with 32Mspi where you can see the real deference.So far theese are my resaults:
10X370(booted 370-mem unlinked@904Mhz4-4-3-9-1T =13m26s703ms
9X411(booted 411-mem unlinked@896Mhz4-4-3-9-1T =13m23s984ms
8X463(booted 463-mem unlinked@~900Mhz4-4-3-9-1T=13m54s938ms:slapass:
8X462(booted 424-mem linked/sync@924Mhz4-4-3-9-1T =13m31s640ms

[Nilson]

guys, you can't boot on 420MHz then ClockGen increase.... not so easy...

i.e: boot on 420, set 430/440/450/460 and so on -> freeze or unstable.

please use 32M for testing - better delta than 0.0xxs stuff...

[Phil The Greek]

guys, you can't boot on 420MHz then ClockGen increase.... not so easy...

i.e: boot on 420, set 430/440/450/460 and so on -> freeze or unstable.

please use 32M for testing - better delta than 0.0xxs stuff...
What do you mean we can't?I did(at least till 462fsb).

[G H Z]

Mine gets unstable around 470 on 10 multi booting 424mhz 4-4-4-5. I can't figure out how to make this board perform in 32M, it's (so far) quite a bit slower than 975, 1M is no problem however.

[Phil The Greek]

Mine gets unstable around 470 on 10 multi booting 424mhz 4-4-4-5. I can't figure out how to make this board perform in 32M, it's (so far) quite a bit slower than 975, 1M is no problem however.
I beleave it's a lot to ask from the chipset on the 1066strap.And it could be also the ram thats already too high.I haven't tried with 2T and/or looser timmings,but althogh it would work,probably would kill the score.

[adamsleath]

any1 heard any more about the PLUS version of this board?..i've heard it's a cut down version of striker extreme..whatever that means


re below: yikes dont want that! thx for the info. Nilson...but how come its still being advertised as 680i????????

[Nilson]

adamsleath, it's 650i... http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mobo9or.jpg

Phil The Greek, it's unstable. I mean if you boot on 424MHz and set 462MHz. Try to play games, Mark03 and so on... I can pass 1M, 32M but nothing else...

[Phil The Greek]

adamsleath, it's 650i... http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mobo9or.jpg

Phil The Greek, it's unstable. I mean if you boot on 424MHz and set 462MHz. Try to play games, Mark03 and so on... I can pass 1M, 32M but nothing else...
Yes you are right.Althogh I managed this with the above settings,I got a restart,just trying to run a AquaMark3:(

[inzer890]

it's 650i... http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mobo9or.jpg
1. is that the final info on plus version? or the mistake from CPU-Z? or smbd's evil joke? If true - how can we explain all those info from different online shops, offering P5N32-E SLI Plus on NForce 680i chipset? http://www.excaliberpc.com/Asus_P5N32-E_SLI_Plus_LGA_775_NVIDIA/P5N32-E_SLI_Plus/partinfo-id-574111.html - for example? Actually, if the chips marked C55-SLIX8N-A2,- it's obviously, that the link bandwidth is twice-cut in comparison with C55-SLIX16N-A2. If it really is 650i-why has the name P5N32-E SLI Plus appeared. What a mess from Asus :confused:
2. I'm much upset with core Vdroop problem; as it seems 2 me, 1,47v for Conroe water-cooled at least-cannot be called even poor voltage. And ASUS' position for this board is gaming/OC. What the факинг OC with such a voltage value? I only hope that this problem can be fixed in the next releases of BIOS.
Guys, how do you think-is it possible, that the problem is really in hardware? If so-I'll go and kill myself-for I have payed the subj today morning :eek:

[MavT]

adamsleath, it's 650i... http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mobo9or.jpg

Phil The Greek, it's unstable. I mean if you boot on 424MHz and set 462MHz. Try to play games, Mark03 and so on... I can pass 1M, 32M but nothing else...

Hmm thats weird. I just bought this board. But havent gotten the CPU, RAM and GFX yet. But this is what the box says.

http://www.kronic.dk/upload/files/P5N32-EPlus3.JPG
Check the red label

That would be a bit of a blow if it turns out to be 650i.....

[VoRtAn_MaDgE]

Using 0602 bios.
reported 680i in cpu-z

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/5166/p5n32esli680i0ul.jpg

Excellent board btw :toast: ...results soon

[VoRtAn_MaDgE]

edit...

warm up test...

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/746/3500p5n32esli0ux.jpg

stock cooler, stock board chipset coolers, factory lousy thermal grease.

Time to squeeze it really hard...

This mobo is absolutely great :woot:

[MavT]

VoRtAn_MaDgE is that the Plus version?

Either way, great results. I cant wait for my remaining hardware to arrive.

[VoRtAn_MaDgE]

VoRtAn_MaDgE is that the Plus version?

Either way, great results. I cant wait for my remaining hardware to arrive.

No MavT...p5n32e sli :)

changed the multi to 7... booted at 475 (dqr1900:eek: ) no problem at all
tried 7x500 ... corrupted s.o files

mobo stock and cpu cooler too...

It would be fun with my modded prommy from blaster on it :D

[Robilar]

Try this mod on the board

Vortan, would you mind listing your bios settings for the OC. Also where can you alter the FSB ratio on the ram to 1:1?

[VoRtAn_MaDgE]

Try this mod on the board

Mb cooling arriving tomorrow Robilar ;)

Just need a solution for southbridge...hard to find that thermaltake cooler in stock in Portugal :(

btw wich oc tool are you guys using for the 680i in windows?
Ntune?

So far all the overclock is straight from bios in my case

[Robilar]

I had a heck of a time in Canada too. got them for $20 apiece Cdn. dropped temps by 5-6C idle, still working on load.

Can I trouble you for your bios settings? I'm formerly an AMD guy and this bios has me mystified. I would like to hit 3500 (either 8x as you showed or other multi)

Thanks

[adamsleath]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=128267&highlight=p5n32-e
some tests on PLUS have started in this plus thread...

[Absinthe]

Thanks for write up Kunaak, nice photos btw, and to everyone else who has added to this thread. Just received a P5N32-E and already running into bizzarre issues. Out of numerous attempts to boot, I was able to load into windows once (crashed to reboot less than 60 secs). While just perusing the bios, I would randomly lock up, frozen on whatever bios page I was on. Successfully flashed to 0702 with no change. Im operating out of the box, on the bench with a e6300 (stock cooling), 74gb Raptor, 1 gb stick of ballistix 1000 (all slots attempted to no avail) and a 7900GS. It appears that I may just have a defunct board but my knowleadge is very limited and thought this would be one of the best places to inquire. I have no idea as to what is causing these issues and any help would be greatly appriciated.


Thanks

[inzer890]

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showpost.php?p=1401542&postcount=40
all the owners of the non-plus version may breathe with relief for some time: Plus mobo is not the same improved-at least with it's set of chips ;)
Waiting for the full review

[Tony]

Some issues with the P5N 32-E i found while testing at OCZ.

1 If your ram is EPP from a cmos clear the board boots with 1t at 800 and 1.8V...even if you don't enable SLI ram. Remove the EPP profile from SPD and the board boots with 2T.

2 Board seems to have a quiet turbo mode at stock CPU speed, i found it best to force a small overclock to get stock ram stable.

3 Vcore is a mile off....you already know this.

4 warm boot issues, cold boot is needed while overclocking even going back and forth from memtest.

Issue 1 is quite serious, we found a work around but bios does need fixing for this.

[inzer890]

Have already read about Vdroop (CPU) on Plus-ver? By now-a single example from ElixXx: Max selectable voltage in bios are 1.9v, But it dosent matter wat i set it to. over 1.4v that is. Selecting 1.55, still gets me max 1.42, setting 1.6v gives mi 1.42. I dont want to select any more if the boards decide to actually change the voltage to the setting i select.
1.42v - if it is for all the Pluses-the situation is even worse, than for non-Plus

[inzer890]

Thanks for write up Kunaak, nice photos btw, and to everyone else who has added to this thread. Just received a P5N32-E and already running into bizzarre issues. Out of numerous attempts to boot, I was able to load into windows once (crashed to reboot less than 60 secs). While just perusing the bios, I would randomly lock up, frozen on whatever bios page I was on. Successfully flashed to 0702 with no change. Im operating out of the box, on the bench with a e6300 (stock cooling), 74gb Raptor, 1 gb stick of ballistix 1000 (all slots attempted to no avail) and a 7900GS. It appears that I may just have a defunct board but my knowleadge is very limited and thought this would be one of the best places to inquire. I have no idea as to what is causing these issues and any help would be greatly appriciated.
Thanks

Nilson was one of the first owners of the subj, and his mobo didn't want to work with Corsair 6400C4 in dual-only in single; after changing to GSkill-the situation didn't change. As it appeared, the board was really defunct-for Nilson expirienced: if to put smth under the northbridge-it worked stable.
Maybe You have such a trouble-maybe due to ingentle transportation, or (what is more possible)-it's manufacturer's flaw. Suppose, it's better to exchange Your sample.
P.S. try another RAM stick, if possible

[G H Z]

Also where can you alter the FSB ratio on the ram to 1:1?

This is where you set 1:1. With FSB - Memory Ratio settings choose Sync - not 1:1. Yeah it's real intuitive on Asus part ;)
This is kunaak's pic so disregard the settings he has open here, this is the place to change the ratios as you can plainly see however.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52920&stc=1&d=1163578362

[G H Z]

Here's my 32M on this board, not the best results for the mhz. I tried several different configs and this was the fastest I could come up with.

BIOS 602
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/canny/11m1s-32M.png

[principino1984]

Some issues with the P5N 32-E i found while testing at OCZ.

1 If your ram is EPP from a cmos clear the board boots with 1t at 800 and 1.8V...even if you don't enable SLI ram. Remove the EPP profile from SPD and the board boots with 2T.

2 Board seems to have a quiet turbo mode at stock CPU speed, i found it best to force a small overclock to get stock ram stable.

3 Vcore is a mile off....you already know this.

4 warm boot issues, cold boot is needed while overclocking even going back and forth from memtest.

Issue 1 is quite serious, we found a work around but bios does need fixing for this.

damn you serious man?

stupid question... you think evey kit of EPP equipped memories will have the same problem?

It's kinda dangerous to work on the SPD ... what u just said is not that good for asus mainboard!!!



Anyway.. how abt the vdrop, still that high? or they solved with new bios?

[Absinthe]

... As it appeared, the board was really defunct-for Nilson expirienced: if to put smth under the northbridge-it worked stable.
Maybe You have such a trouble-maybe due to ingentle transportation...


Thanks for the info!

*Update - Upon closer inspection (for shipping damages, thx inzer890), the plastic pin w/ spring tensioner on the SB was broken, hence limited contact being made with the heatsink. Just the tip was broken off so it looked like it was secure, but in actuality, was applying zero tension. After resolving the contact issue, everything seemed stable until I began "adjusting" my slightly modded fastener and now no post. lol

Could damage to the SB occured as a result from the limited contact with the heatsink?

Also, how delicate is the SB to both temp and physical pressure? It was late and I was a bit rambunctious while adjusting the tension on my mod, so I assume I could have introduced a new problem to my equation. :slapass:

Btw, board seemed completely stable while running it for a few hours before my little setback.

[VoRtAn_MaDgE]

As Kunnak said few posts behind...
6700, multi 7, 500fsb...

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=161632

Mem's way to relaxed, just to make sure they don't limit the oc...

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/874/7x500yr9.jpg

[Agent Smith]

what are the diffrencies between p5n32e and the plus revision??are there more differencies in overclocking from the striker?
thanks

[inzer890]

what are the diffrencies between p5n32e and the plus revision??are there more differencies in overclocking from the striker?
thanks
all is here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=128267&highlight=p5n32-e
P.S. have anyone set 1.625v or higher for CP core? Does it work properly and mobo provides us with true voltage value? Or just another rumor?

[Martin.v.r]

sorry the "Eng"
i flash to bios 0702
there is a big bug,from 1,495v to 1,6v :slapass:
1,6=1,55v

if i set all volt to AUTO,i got this :banana:

Bundkort: ASUS P5N32-E SLI 680I Bios 0702
FSB Normal: 266 MHz
FSB Overclocked: 412 MHz (+55%)
CPU: P4 E6600 L632A600
CPU normal: 2400 MHz
CPU Overclocked: 3712 MHz (+55%)
CPU VCore: 1,49 V /AUTO volt
CPU k&#248;ler: Watercooling XSPC kitt + dual
CPU Temperatur: Load: 48 &#176;C (Idle: 40 &#176;C)
M&#229;lemetode (temp): Core temp
Grafikkort (GFX): MSI 7900GTO
GFX Core Normal: 650 MHz
GFX Core OC: 722 MHz (+11%)
GFX Ram Normal: 1320 MHz
GFX Ram OC: 1600 MHz (+21%)
Grafikkort k&#248;ling: org
Ram (system): CELL SHOCK PC8000 cl 4 2.2v
Ram Normal: 500 Mhz
RAM Overclocked: 550 MHz (+10%)
Ram sp&#230;nding: 2,3 V not AUTO
Harddiske: Maxtor 160GB

low cas: is best 3-3-3-9 :banana:

[rogue_elefant]

using bios 702, i can only get a max vcore of 1.56v.
anyone get any more than 1.56v on another bios version?

does this board use the same bios as the striker?

cheers

[Kristoferr]

Seems this board has same vcore problems with any bios. My board does not do over 1,6 also.
1,6V was actually 1,59 with multimeter, on my board.
I Didnt found any VDroop mod to this board.
Did Vcore mode like its shown in this forum, in motherboard Vmods thread.
I used ordinary 20K ohm resistor (0,25W) and got now voltiges up to 1,68V if i set 1,6V in bios.
So now my board is now overvolting CPU about 0,07V-0,08V
In future i need voltages up to 1,8. So probably need to replace 20Kohm with 10Kohm resistor. Need huge voltage to test Celeron D 347
i really dont want to do this 10Kohm vmod, affraid to brake my motherboard. I hope they can fix this vcore problem with new bios soon!!!

[inzer890]

Guys, any1 uses GEIL GX22GB6400UDC mem. sticks? The closer moment of my mobo delivery-the more is my worrying about compatibility with the subj. CellShock PC8000 is available, but seems 2 expensive, even for me. (2Gb CellShock=4GbGeil :))

[G.Foyle]

I use exactly the same sticks. They are compatible with this board, BUT:
- don't use rated volts.
- they are crap, they barely make rated timings @ rated freq @ rated volts - at 2.1 V they would burn a hole in my desk. It has been impossible for me to run them at 4-4-4-12 @ 2.1 V stable.They run 4-4-4-12 stable at 2.0 V, but hot like hell, i was really afraid about them... get yourself a fan or better buy some G.Skill (IIRC they are about the same price).

[Pyr0]

new 0802 bios available:
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5N32-E%20SLI/0802.zip

[Kristoferr]

0902 is out and its adventully the bios that fixes Vcore above 1,6V.
Now i Can get also 1,65V and its real! :D

This ASUS board isnt so bad after all :cool:

I might even say, that im very pleased with my board.
Specially with memory timings on my board.
D9DQW can not do stable 3-3-3 840mhz 1T on every board you know. :banana:
Awesome memory board indeed.Also 500FSB with E6300 is not bad :p:

[Martin.v.r]

:banana:

http://www.overclocking.dk/billedbrowser.asp?id=53891&pic=5 :clap:

http://www.overclocking.dk/community.asp?mode=info&id=53891

[GAR]

just got this board, and so far im lovin it, using 0902 bios.

[ibnz]

Does 0902 really have such a big drop in voltage? My E6600 runs 3600MHz at 1.35v according to Speedfan & Everest, 1.43v set in BIOS. It'd probably be fine at 1.43v but 1.33-1.35 is awfully low.
Also, I ran 3200 (400x8) at 1.2v according to Speedfan & EvU fully stable (Orthos, prime, you name it). Again it feels weird.
Temperatures indicate a stronger voltage than 0602 at 1.3v (never even tried 1.2v with it) being total 10-13 degrees celsius higher now than before.

[Merc14]

All users of P5N32-E SLI and P5N32-E SLI Plus as well as Striker Extreme, who use Everest Ultimate, need to be aware that there is a fault in monitoring Vcore. I worked with Fiery at Lavalys and he has a beta version that fixes this issue. It is available here http://www.lavalys.com/beta/everestultimat...sdpf4mzx0gd.zip

The full thread is here http://www.lavalys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2204

Be aware that CPUz does not report the Vcore acurately either.m Read the thread for more info. Hope this helps.

[inzer890]

Guys, plz, give the link 2 download 0902 bios. My mobo arrives on the next Tuesday from Swiss. So tired with this waiting :(

[Leeghoofd]

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5N32-E%20SLI/0902.zip

[MJE]

on asus website if you look into the specifications tab the + plus series board is a 650 chipset...not a 680 and thats coming directly from Asus themselves.

[G.Foyle]

I just hade some serious bios flashing issues with this board:

First the board would not post after putting my new mem sticks (Patriot 800 CL4 llk 2x1GB), so i shut it down, on again... and it said "BIOS checksum bad" and prompt to insert ASUS support CD to recover the bios... After some experiments, several bad flashes and borrowing a BIOS programmator from a firend of mine I hav found out that:
- ASUS support CD contains bios 0101 (shipped version is 0302, newest is 0902); 0101 is probably not compatible with this board. I tried several times to flash it and it always stops at byte 0xFFFF8. Probably a CD can be made from ASUS original CD that contains whatever bios you want, or probably you could name some newer bios "0101.bin" to get emergency flashing to work.
- If a message apperas saying "BIOS checksum bad" you should NOT use ASUS support CD, try removing the battery and putting CLRTC jumper on and leaving the board for several hours, sometimes it would boot.

[toddm27]

I just hade some serious bios flashing issues with this board:

First the board would not post after putting my new mem sticks (Patriot 800 CL4 llk 2x1GB), so i shut it down, on again... and it said "BIOS checksum bad" and prompt to insert ASUS support CD to recover the bios... After some experiments, several bad flashes and borrowing a BIOS programmator from a firend of mine I hav found out that:
- ASUS support CD contains bios 0101 (shipped version is 0302, newest is 0902); 0101 is probably not compatible with this board. I tried several times to flash it and it always stops at byte 0xFFFF8. Probably a CD can be made from ASUS original CD that contains whatever bios you want, or probably you could name some newer bios "0101.bin" to get emergency flashing to work.
- If a message apperas saying "BIOS checksum bad" you should NOT use ASUS support CD, try removing the battery and putting CLRTC jumper on and leaving the board for several hours, sometimes it would boot.
are you running the plus version of the board? I've seen a bunch of guys recover from the cd however

[hydkrash]

Has any one noticed voltage spikes with the 0902 bios?
I was on it for about 2 days and then I saw it. For about 12 secs Asus Probe showed voltage spikes on my NB, the SB adn the rams....image how it felt when you suddenly see 4.03V on your DIMM V

[Lood007]

ASUS probe is crap.
Don't believe it.

[G.Foyle]

are you running the plus version of the board? I've seen a bunch of guys recover from the cd however

Non-plus.
Maybe they have a new revision of CD... after I gave the flash programmator back to that friend I tried to flash 0101 from a floppy... the board does not post. I RMAed, welcome to 14 work days without a computer... :( I'm considering buying some cheap board and selling it when I get my P5N32-E back form RMA.

[spookz]

Guys, 0903 bios is now on ASUS's FTP server~

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5N32-E%20SLI/0903.zip

[Robilar]

0902 is running great. how about you try the 0903 and get back to us :)

[spookz]

I'm running 0903 right now and all seems fine.

With my previous oc, i can run it with less voltage then before.

Orthos blend is running as i type (2hrs n counting).

though i don't know exactly what had been fixed in this bios release, i only know that i can run the exact same OC from 0902 with less Vcore in 0903 =)


eg.

E6600 @ 3.2GHz (400x8):



[0902]
vcore - set 1.4125v (shows as 1.39 in BIOS n Probe, less is supplied to cpu (-0.08)
only 1.31v is supplied to cpu


[0903]
vcore - set 1.4000v (shows as 1.38 in BIOS and Probe, less is supplied to cpu again (-0.08)
so only 1.30V is supplied to cpu

the issue about the recent asus 680i bios's adding 0.08 to their sensor values for VCORE were discovered by Fiery, over at the Lavalys forums.

So that means actual vcore is about 0.1 less then what is displayed in Probe or Hardware Monitor or EVEREST Ultimate Beta 0915+.

Everest Ultimate Beta 883 will display the ACTUAL SUPPLIED vcore values.

LOL, i dont even know if i'm making any sense anymore..

Point was, 0903 seems to be able to get my same OC from 0902 with less Vcore, i havent tested with even lower vcore values yet, but i will get to that.. =)

[JohnnyV]

I'm having a bit of an issue here.
I have my watercooling set running (CPU+NB+GPU) and idle I'm doing about 30degrees on 1,4v in BIOS. That's ok I guess but when running Orthos it's slowly increasing to about 51 degrees. over 20 degrees difference between idle and stressed is too much for my comfort. What would be the most plausible cause for this?
- waterblock not tight enough?
- not 100&#37; flat IHS?
- max. capacity reached for radiator (dual 120mm Black ICE)
- Bad flow?

I'm having a "B" type chip so they tend to get a bit warmer but this difference is not ok.

I'm thinking of lapping the IHS and re-applying the blocks but your thoughts on this are appreciated.

P.S. I should prolly (also) post this in the liquid cooling section.

[Resshin]

I'm having the same problem, with a 6600 L632B. I used to have a E6600 L629B, and with watercooling w/o any overclock I had 22&#186;/25&#186;(core0/core1) in idle and 33&#186;/35&#186; in full load. My problem with the new L632B is that even with undervoltage, about 1,1v on vcore, it gets to 33/36 in idle without any overclock. It's about the same my old one but in full load!!! :slap:
What in the world is going on? I already checked the waterblock twice, and that isn't the problem. Any thoughts? :(

[hydkrash]

Anyone has any prob running D9 fat bodies on this board? I've got a pair of Corsair 8000UL rated at 1000Mhz 5-4-4-9 but simply won't run at 1000Mhz no matter what settings I use 1T, 2T, 5-5-5-15...nothing works

it runs rock stable with 2.2V 900Mhz 4-3-3-7 1T though

[Kristoferr]

Anyone has any prob running D9 fat bodies on this board? I've got a pair of Corsair 8000UL rated at 1000Mhz 5-4-4-9 but simply won't run at 1000Mhz no matter what settings I use 1T, 2T, 5-5-5-15...nothing works

it runs rock stable with 2.2V 900Mhz 4-3-3-7 1T though

I got 1000mhz with my D9Dqw, but timings were 5-5-5-15-22-2T and they ran with high voltage. So its not good.

Fatbodys are better to run with 800-900 and very tight timings.
I can run 800-900mhz 3-3-3-7-9-1T with only increasing voltage a little from everyday settings.

Best i have done is 840mhz 3-2-2-1T :p: In games and Spi it is better then 1200mhz with 5-4-4-2T :toast:

So run fatties with tight timings instead running high frequences!

[hydkrash]

I got 1000mhz with my D9Dqw, but timings were 5-5-5-15-22-2T and they ran with high voltage. So its not good.

Fatbodys are better to run with 800-900 and very tight timings.
I can run 800-900mhz 3-3-3-7-9-1T with only increasing voltage a little from everyday settings.

Best i have done is 840mhz 3-2-2-1T :p: In games and Spi it is better then 1200mhz with 5-4-4-2T :toast:

So run fatties with tight timings instead running high frequences!

Thanks for the tip. What voltages were you running at when u ran 900Mhz 3-3-3 and at 840Mhz?

[JohnnyV]

I have 0903 Bios as well but my Gskill D9's run fine at 1000mhz 4-4-4-12 @2,1v

I might try the 3-3-3-x timings and see what the difference is.

[malik22]

Hi guys what board is better for gaming the ASUS P5N32-E SLI ,Asus P5N32-E SLI PLUS or the Asus P5W DH deluxe?