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death metal
11-10-2006, 06:55 PM
edited graph

ryaan
11-10-2006, 07:02 PM
hows it bench

erwinz
11-10-2006, 07:21 PM
nice.. really looking forward for this.. :D hope you can post some OC results.. :D

red
11-10-2006, 08:45 PM
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=686996&starttime=0&endtime=0
:woot: BTW, is that a disabled Conroe or 'native' Allendale?

aiya
11-10-2006, 09:16 PM
its a native allendale ;)

so it should be cheaper to make and run cooler.

stark27
11-10-2006, 09:20 PM
What's the diff between this and an E6300?

metro.cl
11-10-2006, 09:48 PM
What's the diff between this and an E6300?

lower fsb higher multi

Noob-ftw
11-10-2006, 09:57 PM
Got a new box of goodies, one of them is this new baby.

1.80GHz/800MHz/2MB
Dual Core

CPU-Z Validation: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=137179
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/137179.png

Anyone else has it or got theirs already?

LOL? How do you get these ES chips?

Lestat
11-11-2006, 12:23 AM
ah but the question then becomes will we be faced with the same FSB issues we see with the celerons ? fsb puking out cuz of the lower bus speed.

like my DS3 absolutely hates the 2 775 celies i have tried in it. cant even do 200mhz fsb.
but thats 533 not 800.

Nanometer
11-11-2006, 12:43 AM
This might be a better chip because of the higher multi. I think that these chips overclocking wise will have better performance compared to a 6300

Quentin
11-11-2006, 01:43 AM
an idea of the price ?

Nanometer
11-11-2006, 02:04 AM
My guess would be less than $160.00

alpha0ne
11-11-2006, 02:14 AM
I wish we could get a firm release date, I really want one of these to play with (and torture :devil: :cord: :hammer: :hehe: ) :D

gundamit
11-11-2006, 02:20 AM
Wikpedia is reporting:

Model Number Frequency L2-Cache Front Side Bus Multiplier Voltage TDP Socket Release Date Part Number(s) Release Price (USD)
Core 2 Duo E4300 1800 MHz 2048 KiB 800 MT/s 9x --- 65 W LGA 775 Q1 2007 --- $163

Hmmm ... copy/paste didn't work all that well but you get the idea. :rolleyes:

So whats the down side for no support for "Intel Virtualization Technology"? No Intel vPro doesn't seem to be a problem, since its geared toward IT staff managing desktops. :confused:

Phosphate
11-11-2006, 02:51 AM
I definitely want one of these e4300s.

Memory DIMM quaility shouldn't be as much of an issue with this compared to e6300 on the DS3.

dinos22
11-11-2006, 04:44 AM
where's walter i want one of these :)

SKiLL3D
11-11-2006, 04:59 AM
Give FSB400 and own 6300/6400 :D

Dave DEF
11-11-2006, 05:15 AM
Got a new box of goodies, one of them is this new baby.

1.80GHz/800MHz/2MB
Dual Core

CPU-Z Validation: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=137179
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/137179.png

Anyone else has it or got theirs already?

overclock it please!:slobber:

Dax5
11-11-2006, 05:51 AM
wassup dm! yea!

Noob-ftw
11-11-2006, 05:53 AM
Give FSB400 and own 6300/6400 :D

I think this is a single core. You really can't compare the three.

LuckyNV
11-11-2006, 05:55 AM
I think this is a single core. You really can't compare the three.
the pics show 2 cores, its the first Allendale or native 2MB cache C2D

SKiLL3D
11-11-2006, 06:03 AM
the pics show 2 cores, its the first Allendale or native 2MB cache C2D
his nick(noob-ftw) is not for fun i guess :D

Its 100% a Allendale with lower FSB - the Questions is: Why would Intel produce lowFSB C2Ds? the 6300 and the SingleCores are cheap enough for BudgetOEM-Systems and we all know that Allendales DO like hiFSBs:p:

Only realistic Option is that Intel likes to be competitive with the upcoming X2-3600(and maybe new Semprons) in Performance AND Price AND HTPCcompatibility - or they just keep testing/developing

@death_metal: Whats the default Vcore? try Everest...

iLL

Frank M
11-11-2006, 07:58 AM
Darn, Q1 2007 is still a good bit away...

Very curious about it's performance :)

[LCN]Knowledge
11-11-2006, 04:46 PM
Ummm, what Board are you using?.. up that FSB to 450+ and see what happen :D

dinos22
11-11-2006, 04:54 PM
this is really bad form by the thread starter NOT replying after first post :stick:

dogsx2
11-11-2006, 07:02 PM
this is really bad form by the thread starter NOT replying after first post :stick:

Agreed, but it happens more then it should.:(

death metal
11-11-2006, 07:23 PM
No idea of price and release date. Anandtech/DailyTech has an "old" article up about this CPU: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3372


Believe it or not, there's still more "Conroe" madness

The official embargo for most things Conroe came and went, but it appears there is still one more card Intel hasn't played yet. The newest Intel roadmap has added a bin-5 Conroe processor, the Core 2 Duo E4300.

E4300 is clocked at 1.8GHz and has two megabytes of L2 cache. Unfortunately, the processor lacks VT and vPro extensions, and also runs at an 800MHz front-side bus. Intel has not revealed pricing for the new processor yet since it is not to be announced until Q1'07, but considering the fact that the 1.86GHz E6300 is slated for $183, the E4300 may be one of the greatest bargains yet.

Intel's addition of a bin-5 processor is not totally surprising, as virtually every Intel processor architecture before has had at least five bins. However, with the news of a 2x256KB L2 Athlon 64 X2 3600+, a low-bin Conroe makes even more sense than ever before. The Athlon 64 X2 3600+ is slated to become an OEM component only, but the E4300 appears to be a retail-ready processor, meaning we should see it in store shelves come Q1'07.

The article is a bit dated so you may want to Google more for any changes or leaked info on the net.

Phosphate
11-12-2006, 01:25 AM
Death metal, Can you overclock this for us?

I'm thinking despite the 9x multiplier it may not do as well as a e6400 or even a e6300.

However I am very interested because with this CPU the possibility exists for me to get a 100% overclock with even a bargain bin DDR2 2 GB kit.

dinos22
11-12-2006, 01:50 AM
Agreed, but it happens more then it should.:(
yeah you know it man.......i'll just start putting people on ignore lists i think

I)ickie
11-12-2006, 02:17 AM
where's walter i want one of these :)
Yeah i was thinking the same thing. Might give him a pm

LuckyNV
11-12-2006, 04:12 AM
he might have blown up his computer Ocing it:D

then again, not as if there are a shortage of internet computers in the world :stick:

CaNNibaL
11-12-2006, 05:02 AM
What's the diff between this and an E6300?

One difference @ least is the bus Speed 800 (E4300) vs 1066 (E6300)

dinos22
11-12-2006, 05:24 AM
One difference @ least is the bus Speed 800 (E4300) vs 1066 (E6300)
that will mean bugger all

Phosphate
11-12-2006, 05:30 AM
that will mean bugger all

What does that mean? Are you saying that the Bus of 800 won't really affect OCs that much?

I wonder if these chips being lower binned means they just won't do as well as higher binned allendales? Then again something tells me they will kick as anyway.

dinos22
11-12-2006, 05:34 AM
What does that mean? Are you saying that the Bus of 800 won't really affect OCs that much?

I wonder if these chips being lower binned means they just won't do as well as higher binned allendales? Then again something tells me they will kick as anyway.
i'm saying there will be noticable performance difference between 1.8GHz allendale CPUs with 800/1066 bus (9*200 or 7*257)

yeah binning is what we'd all like to see but OP is just leading us on and i hate this thread because of it........if you have something to say say it if you don't keep it to yourself.......that's how i see it........if NDA is in order well just tell us you cannot answer the damn questions rather than avoid answering all together..........that's how :banana::banana::banana::banana: started with s7.....it's just confusing for lots of people on the forum so there need to be some kind of rules or understanding between us :)

Phosphate
11-12-2006, 05:38 AM
i'm saying there will be noticable performance difference between 1.8GHz allendale CPUs with 800/1066 bus (9*200 or 7*257)

So basically max memory speed will be down I'm sure right? But maybe CPU clocks will still be good.

You know what I am saying? I would expect that a e4300 at say 3.4 GHz (assuming it can get to 3.4 Ghz) won't b e able to hit the same max memory speed as a e6300 at 3.4 Ghz. But heck I'm pretty noob so I could be wrong.

Phosphate
11-12-2006, 05:42 AM
yeah binning is what we'd all like to see but OP is just leading us on and i hate this thread because of it........if you have something to say say it if you don't keep it to yourself.......that's how i see it........if NDA is in order well just tell us you cannot answer the damn questions rather than avoid answering all together..........that's how :banana::banana::banana::banana: started with s7.....it's just confusing for lots of people on the forum so there need to be some kind of rules or understanding between us :)

Yeah I hate how he teases us but then doesn't show results:nono:

Haha, this extreme systems because of overclocking and we wants to know what these chips can do with the overclock:p: Not stock speed? This isn't Xtreme Dell Systems forums:mad:

dinos22
11-12-2006, 05:51 AM
well i've contacted my guy for ES chips so if one pops up next week i'll do a full report no doubt :)

erwinz
11-12-2006, 06:34 AM
well i've contacted my guy for ES chips so if one pops up next week i'll do a full report no doubt :)


nice one mate.. :D how us an OC E4300 :)

looking forward to it..:woot:

thunderstruck!
11-12-2006, 09:27 AM
this is really bad form by the thread starter NOT replying after first post :stick:
We already knew everything cpuz reported. OP just wants to brag, didn't provide anything useful at all.

couppi
11-12-2006, 09:53 AM
This is xtremesystems, not tomshardware.

Please, just tell us how it overclocks.

bri1
11-12-2006, 10:08 AM
Umm I just now saw this and am already wanting results. I came in here and read 2x pages of people begging for results. :(

Come on man just give them up its not like we are Terrorists planning to kill people who Oc processors.

Phosphate
11-12-2006, 10:33 AM
We already knew everything cpuz reported. OP just wants to brag, didn't provide anything useful at all.

What are you talking about? He let us know there is this new allendale called the "e4300" with a 800 FSB with a stock speed of 1.8 GHz. I don't know about you but I've never gotten tired about hearing "stock speed specs" on this CPU since oh let think ......July.

Phosphate
11-12-2006, 10:35 AM
well i've contacted my guy for ES chips so if one pops up next week i'll do a full report no doubt :)

You are the man I want to see deliver the OC. I know you will come home with the goods if you are able to get your hands on one of these babies.

Dave DEF
11-12-2006, 10:46 AM
stop the hating!

dinos22
11-12-2006, 02:19 PM
stop the hating!
not hating >>> persuasion heheheh

Sneaky
11-13-2006, 09:43 PM
I think I'll be getting one of these for my SFF rig in the making - E4400 = 10x multi (mATX board has a wall just over 300... so easy 3ghz :))


just wish they'd be out sooner than Q1/07

erwinz
11-13-2006, 09:58 PM
not hating >>> persuasion heheheh

hey man any news.. :D

Phosphate
11-13-2006, 10:05 PM
I think I'll be getting one of these for my SFF rig in the making - E4400 = 10x multi (mATX board has a wall just over 300... so easy 3ghz :))


just wish they'd be out sooner than Q1/07

There is going to be a E4400 too?

Yeah the benchmarks between the e4300 vs e6300 will be interesting to see alonh with the prices on these e4400 vs other allendales.

alpha0ne
11-13-2006, 11:10 PM
A banning may be in order unless some OC information is forthcoming :stick: :slap:

Cappie
11-14-2006, 12:37 AM
he's a faker and the screenshot is faked, noone has a E4300, only Intel has so far and unless he's leaking secret intel stuff I don't think we'll get another reply from him.

Dave DEF
11-14-2006, 01:26 AM
he's a faker and the screenshot is faked, noone has a E4300, only Intel has so far and unless he's leaking secret intel stuff I don't think we'll get another reply from him.

ever thought about visiting a psychiatrist? :stick:

dinos22
11-14-2006, 01:46 AM
hey man any news.. :D
no news on supply from my guy :(

ferds
11-14-2006, 01:56 AM
hi guys,

i think its best that we give DM some time.

heres what he said today on the other forum (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=77276)




Heya guys, I'll try to post updates, maybe OC updates, but just CPU-Z screenie.

Too busy lately, no time to play...

Phosphate
11-14-2006, 02:01 AM
hi guys,

i think its best that we give DM some time.

heres what he said today on the other forum (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=77276)

The guy makes a good point in that thread though. If for some reason you had a c2D compatible 945 mobo then this e4300 would be the ideal match-up for it.

Dave DEF
11-14-2006, 03:55 AM
The guy makes a good point in that thread though. If for some reason you had a c2D compatible 945 mobo then this e4300 would be the ideal match-up for it.

truth.com! That way you could even reach 2,7 GHz on Asrock ConroeXfire.:)

Cappie
11-14-2006, 07:04 AM
ever thought about visiting a psychiatrist? :stick:


As everyone may already know 1333MHz FSB Intel Core 2 Duo (including E6850, E6750 and E6650) will be releasing in Q3 2007, Intel just announced more choices to customers. Besides the 3 models mentioned above, Intel will also release Core 2 Duo E6390 in Q3 2007, E4200 and E4400 in Q2 2007. Core 2 Duo E6390 targets to the market of E6300 and E6400, and the two members from Core 2 Duo E4000 family are designed to replace Netburst Pentium D.

When compared with the specification, we may find that Core 2 Duo E6390 actually is a value version of Core 2 Duo E6300 and E6400. With the same speed of Core 2 Duo E6400 at 2.13GHz, and also 2MB L2 Cache and 1066MHz FSB, everything is the same in Core 2 Duo E6390, but the availability of Intel Virtualization Technology (VT) and vPRO Technology. These functions are disabled in Core 2 Duo E6390.

On the other side, the two members from Core 2 Duo E4000 family to be released in Q2 2007 include E4200 and E4400. These are running at 1.6GHz and 2GHz respectively, and same as the most of Core 2 Duo, these models contain 2MB L2 Cache and support 1066MHz FSB. Together with E4300 which will be released on 21 Jan 2007, Core 2 Duo E4000 family aim to replace Netburst Pentium D.

However, ironically, at the time we are still waiting for Intel Core 2 Duo E4300, Intel has announced the out-of-production schedule to manufacturers. The last order of Core 2 Duo E4300 will be in Q4 2004 (should be 2007), production terminates in Q1 2008 and last shipment is Q3 2008.

Maybe its you that needs to go see the psych, I heard it can do wonders for gullable fools such as yourself:LOL: I too have a new chip, its called the Optakron Retardikus 5000 and it clocks really well, will have results for you real soon.

Phosphate
11-14-2006, 07:31 AM
1333 FSB C2D's. So basically were are talking 333 FSB out of the box. Will this be accompanied by DDR3 memory introduction?

With DDR3, overclocking that 333 FSB could be interesting.

Dave DEF
11-14-2006, 10:23 AM
Maybe its you that needs to go see the psych, I heard it can do wonders for gullable fools such as yourself:LOL: I too have a new chip, its called the Optakron Retardikus 5000 and it clocks really well, will have results for you real soon.

what are you quoting? inquirer? always good to trust a source with a typo (Q4 of 2004) in it...:slap:

we'll see...

peace

Dave

saboya
11-14-2006, 01:04 PM
Looking foward to some OC results, but something tells me that those e4300 will not make above 3ghz with some vcore...

skootyloops
11-14-2006, 01:19 PM
Looking foward to some OC results, but something tells me that those e4300 will not make above 3ghz with some vcore...
I'm also looking foward to seeing some OC results. Depending on how these go I may get one myself.

I actually reckon they will make 3ghz really easy with hardly any increase in the vcore.

MrDeeds
11-14-2006, 02:05 PM
Maybe its you that needs to go see the psych, I heard it can do wonders for gullable fools such as yourself:LOL: I too have a new chip, its called the Optakron Retardikus 5000 and it clocks really well, will have results for you real soon.

Dude you really need to chill, just because the guy hasnt had time or doesnt care to post results doesnt mean its a fake.

If you dont have anything positive or even informative to contriute then go find a corner and sit in it.

Its not acceptable to be an ass just because your doing it from behind a keyboard.:slap: :slap:

Cappie
11-14-2006, 02:34 PM
You'r entitled to your opinion and so am I, if I think he's a fake then thats my bleeping perogative.

red
11-14-2006, 04:06 PM
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=137179
Did you happen to miss that?

death metal
11-15-2006, 09:46 PM
I stole away some time last night to play with the processor before I went to bed (I am too tired :(). This overclock is done very quickly without tweaking or paying attention to other details. No benchmark, sorry guys.

I also didn't use the BadAxe2 to OC, I am having some quirks with OCing on BadAxe2 so I switched to Abit AW9D-MAX.

This is a 50% overclock, this should be more than enough headroom for some mild OCer but not enough for the more extreme. By the way, this is not the maximum OC, this just the OC I tried during a one and a-half hour period of stress testing. Running all on stock cooling, voltage, timing, etc.

edit: removed images

AgentVX
11-15-2006, 10:23 PM
Thanks very much for that death metal :woot:

Looking forward to more results.

Phosphate
11-15-2006, 10:57 PM
Thanks Death,

It will be interesting to see if this chip can approach the other allendales in terms of the max OC ceiling. Certainly it will be good for people with cheap DDR2 memory kits.

I may hold off buying a CPU till this one comes out.

Dave DEF
11-16-2006, 12:31 AM
This is a 50% overclock, this should be more than enough headroom for some mild OCer but not enough for the more extreme. By the way, this is not the maximum OC, this just the OC I tried during a one and a-half hour period of stress testing. Running all on stock cooling, voltage, timing, etc.

this is all I needed to know! THX A LOT!:woot: :clap: :banana:

kemo
11-16-2006, 12:46 AM
Maybe its you that needs to go see the psych, I heard it can do wonders for gullable fools such as yourself:LOL: I too have a new chip, its called the Optakron Retardikus 5000 and it clocks really well, will have results for you real soon.

What is wrong with this forum if some one didn?t like the post he just cam out and say faker faker faker go get him
What is wrong with you the guy is posting a validated link to an Allendale with 2mb of cache and multi of 9X how the hell on earth he can fake something like that and he is an old member much much older that you why he wona ruin everything, post a fake image and run away so next time please if you don?t like the thread don?t post just leave it alone
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bofors
11-16-2006, 02:04 AM
This is a 50% overclock, this should be more than enough headroom for some mild OCer but not enough for the more extreme. By the way, this is not the maximum OC, this just the OC I tried during a one and a-half hour period of stress testing. Running all on stock cooling, voltage, timing, etc.

Thanks for the report, I am very interested in the E4300 too.

Now I am wondering why the results are so low, 300 FSB, 2.7GHz?



I also didn't use the BadAxe2 to OC, I am having some quirks with OCing on BadAxe2...

If you have time, could you please describe these Bad Axe 2 "quirks' for those of us thinking about buying that board.

775911
11-16-2006, 04:26 PM
9x3 is 27 so what do you mean low

This looks good to me anyway so when is the cpu out because I was about to buy a e6300

Thanks DM

ferds
11-16-2006, 08:24 PM
who wants to see a E4300 95% OC on stock cooler?

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=77276

THANKS DM!!

bofors
11-16-2006, 08:27 PM
9x3 is 27 so what do you mean low

This looks good to me anyway so when is the cpu out because I was about to buy a e6300


I mean, that I had expected the E4300 to overclock like an E6600 (which also a has a multiplier of 9). These results are not even close to what I was looking for here: FSB 400, 3.6GHz.

bofors
11-16-2006, 08:29 PM
who wants to see a E4300 95% OC on stock cooler?

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=77276


This is what I was expecting, 2.7GHz, 300 FSB was low.

775911
11-16-2006, 09:11 PM
That is impressive, 3.5k on a stock cooler :) A pi time would be good but I presume its not that far off what a e6300 would do, a bit slower because of the fsb being 110 less probably

an0nym0us
11-16-2006, 10:39 PM
i guess he got everyone to shut up with those pix. nice proc, i might pick one up for an HTPC.

dinos22
11-16-2006, 10:44 PM
who wants to see a E4300 95% OC on stock cooler?

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=77276

THANKS DM!!
looks ok what vcore :)

ferds
11-17-2006, 12:13 AM
no info about vcore.

lordkelmain
11-17-2006, 01:28 AM
This chip, bundled with a decent motherboard, would be excellent for a testing rig.

Does it really have to go on sale so late though? \=

- lk

AgentVX
11-17-2006, 02:52 AM
This chip, bundled with a decent motherboard, would be excellent for a testing rig.


Testing? Hell I'm going to use this in my main rig :banana:
Looks very nice, but wondering about Vcore too.

LuckyNV
11-17-2006, 03:27 AM
This chip, bundled with a decent motherboard, would be excellent for a testing rig.

Does it really have to go on sale so late though? \=

- lk

Intel still have to shift existing Netburst stock, that means a ton of 8xxD's

Frank M
11-18-2006, 06:49 AM
I mean, that I had expected the E4300 to overclock like an E6600 (which also a has a multiplier of 9). These results are not even close to what I was looking for here: FSB 400, 3.6GHz.
Keep in mind that
1.) the base speed of this is 200MHz FSB
2.) these are probably the speed-binning leftovers as of now.

SLi_dog
11-18-2006, 09:51 AM
looks ok what vcore :)
And what load temps?

Phosphate
11-18-2006, 11:03 AM
I can't wait for this CPU. Hopefully he didn't need a crazy Vcore to get that OC though.

loafer87gt
11-18-2006, 11:26 AM
I also didn't use the BadAxe2 to OC, I am having some quirks with OCing on BadAxe2 so I switched to Abit AW9D-MAX.



Thanks for posting your results. Just curious as to what sort issues you ran into with your Bad Axe 2. I am just putting a new Kentsfield build together and am torn between using this board or the P5W-64WS. Overall, what are your thoughts on the Intel board?

death metal
11-20-2006, 03:17 AM
Hey all, took me some time to remember I have this thread *yay*.

Anyway, the problem I had with Bad Axe 2 is nothing serious. It's a pre-production board so I really think I'll encounter some problem. The issue is that the OC will not "stuck" sometimes, but sometimes, it's working.

As for vCore, I use 1.55v.

This will be my final update since I have already dis-assemble the rig.

Dave DEF
11-23-2006, 12:37 PM
Intel Core2 Duo E4300, the next Core 2 Duo processor to be released is now scheduled on 21 Jan 2007. Its market is set to value, such that it has 800 MHz FSB only, though, according to the report from manufacturers, most of their mother board could able to overclock the processor to 1066 MHz FSB without any change to voltage.

Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 is the first native 2MB L2 Conroe at L2 Stepping. The processor is running at 1.8GHz, 800MHz FSB and 9X multiplier. Without adding voltage, 1066MHz FSB is mostly achieved and runs really stable. At 1066 MHz FSB, the clock speed is further enhanced to 2.4GHz. Compared with Core 2 Duo E6400 (2.13GHz/2MB L2/1066MHz FSB), this can provide a 10-15% higher performance, but the price is much cheaper, say Core 2 Duo E4300 @ $163 vs Core 2 Duo E6300 @ $183.

http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/news.php?tid=698153&starttime=1163462400&endtime=1163548800

775911
11-23-2006, 01:24 PM
Sounds too easy to me, it could bring back the days of phantom rebranding by endsellers like happened with 486sx 25/33

saboya
11-23-2006, 02:39 PM
i guess he got everyone to shut up with those pix. nice proc, i might pick one up for an HTPC.
Don't think so, because:

As for vCore, I use 1.55v.
1.55v is quite alot to achieve that clock, 6300 can do 3ghz stock volts.

derektm
11-23-2006, 03:01 PM
Keep in mind that
1.) the base speed of this is 200MHz FSB
2.) these are probably the speed-binning leftovers as of now.

How can they be speed-binning leftovers if they are native allendale cores? :stick:

death metal
11-23-2006, 03:17 PM
Don't think so, because:

1.55v is quite alot to achieve that clock, 6300 can do 3ghz stock volts.

1.55v is for 3.5GHz or 95% overclock. iirc, 3GHz is reached easy on stock voltage. You have to know that once a CPU reached a certain OC that requires going beyond stock voltage, it is almost always a steep vCore pump to push for more Hz or clock frequency.

Here's the CPU-Z again if you missed it: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=138823

http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/138823.png

Dave DEF
11-24-2006, 06:50 AM
already listed in germany:

http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a228222.html

erwinz
11-24-2006, 11:40 AM
1.55v is for 3.5GHz or 95% overclock. iirc, 3GHz is reached easy on stock voltage. You have to know that once a CPU reached a certain OC that requires going beyond stock voltage, it is almost always a steep vCore pump to push for more Hz or clock frequency.

Here's the CPU-Z again if you missed it: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=138823



nice clocks death metal.. :woot:

this will be my next processor.. :D

Phosphate
11-24-2006, 12:06 PM
already listed in germany:

http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a228222.html

You can't buy it yet right? When did they say they would get this e4300 in?

rAz3R
11-24-2006, 12:30 PM
You can't buy it yet right? When did they say they would get this e4300 in?

Right.

They say january 21st, but maybe some days/weeks earlier/later.

squilliam
11-24-2006, 03:22 PM
What, if any are the major significances of
"Intel Virtualization Technology (VT) and
vPRO Technology"?

Also, What is the point in DDR3?
Our procs are going to be limited
to 333 on stock, 450 max, which
can be paired with DDR2 1000.
Buying anything higher would be
utterly pointless as you would
reach a bottleneck with your proc.

death metal
11-27-2006, 05:46 PM
Right.

They say january 21st, but maybe some days/weeks earlier/later.

Looks just about right, if it comes by that time, I guess many OCers on the cheap will be happy :)...

erwinz
11-27-2006, 05:57 PM
Looks just about right, if it comes by that time, I guess many OCers on the cheap will be happy :)...


yesss!!! that would include me.. :D

really looking forward for this processor.. :D

Dave DEF
11-28-2006, 06:01 AM
Right.

They say january 21st, but maybe some days/weeks earlier/later.

the link I posted have some shops stating that it will be available on january 4th! that would be awesome!

skootyloops
12-03-2006, 03:27 AM
Might pick one of these chips up. They definatly seem promising with those overclocks.

Phosphate
12-09-2006, 07:00 PM
the link I posted have some shops stating that it will be available on january 4th! that would be awesome!

Jan 4th would be nice. The date I saw was January 21st for the e4300 release.

P.S. Apparently these are 800 FSB but apparently they will do FSB 1066 on stock voltage...LOL.

Hopefully the max CPU frequency is similar to the e6300/e6400 because not only do you get a 9x multipier but supposedly this CPU will be $20 less than the E6300:woot:

Demo
12-10-2006, 06:13 AM
Nice results, If this e4300 could always do 400fsb 9x or 8x with 1.450 ~1.500 volts then its a really good buy!

ownage
12-10-2006, 07:15 AM
e4300 dutch shops (http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/149040/Intel-Core-2-Duo-E4300-(S775-2x1.86GHz-2MB-800MHz-FSB-Boxed)-prijzen.html)

Allready listed :banana:

death metal
12-25-2006, 04:46 PM
Here's the final update:

CPU-Z Validation: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=149868
http://sleektech.nl/~dm/temp/fanboy/cpuz-103-e4300.png

A friend sent me a review link over at XTreview for those looking for benchmarks and performance score: http://xtreview.com/review161.htm

Demo
12-25-2006, 05:15 PM
still at 1.500 volts?

Hutch
12-25-2006, 05:24 PM
103% oc, now that's just terrible ;)

I bet these chips have a lot more left in them too. I'm assuming this was done on water at best. I wish intel did stay with the 800mhz FSB when they went to allendale, we'd have even better oc's with them.

This chip is gonna be the chip where we are going to see some ridiculous overclocks. I'm gonna say 150% oc atleast on a P965 board or a nvidia 6-- board with Ln2/D.I/Phase + extreme voltage.

Phosphate
12-25-2006, 05:24 PM
I saw a post somewhere else speculating that these were just E6600 (or E6700 in the case of the E4400) that had 2 MB of their Cache damaged and therefore disabled. To me this means they should OC just like any other E6600.

The disabled L2 cache theory may be true when you consider these are true Conroes (not Allendales)

I'm not sure how VT or VPro work but if one of the 2 MB caches was disables I would assume that would make VT unusable as well.

ziddey
12-25-2006, 06:32 PM
Anyone else notice something interesting about the stock screenie?

To OP, I know you said you're done with this thread (which got fueled almost solely by other posters haha), did you have c1/eist speedstep disabled in bios? I wonder this because cpuz showing no range for cpu. This makes sense if you have eist disabled, but otherwise, I don't know how comfortable I am with 9x. I mean sure it's great in that you should be in 1066 strap all the time, but there's always that nasty hole in the upper 300's that could really hamper a max oc when on 9x since 9x400=3600, and sometimes it's just a whole lot easier to achieve 8x450=3600 or possibly 7x514=3600 where the strap change performance penalty gets easily negated by supreme fsb.

death metal
12-25-2006, 07:32 PM
Demo, 1.6v.

Hutch, this is on stock cooler.

Phospate, imo, Chipzilla have a different wafer for this CPU so it's really designed to have a 2MB L2 cache. I can't be sure though.

ziddey, the stock screenie and even the OCed screenie doesn't show the 6-9 multi range since I only used the CPU-Z validation website's generated image rather than an F5 or Alt-Prt-Screen in Windows. I thought that this is a pretty obvious image generated by the validation site since all the fonts, and color schemes are the same compared to other CPU-Z generated screenie from other submissions. In any case, I never disabled anything on the BIOS such as C1E or EIST.

As for other combo of multi and FSB, that is not my goal. I have posted it on my blog. Anyway, I can't do much above 415FSB because I am limited by my RAM. If you haven't noticed, I am using a DDR2-533MHz Micron memory. Asking it to work at DDR2-800MHz@CL4 with 2.3v is good enough for me. I don't want to pump any higher than 2.3v vDIMM since it's very hard to get this kind of RAM should I kill this. Besides, I don't expect the board to go higher than 415FSB without hardmod anyway or replacing the stock NB cooler.

ziddey
12-25-2006, 07:36 PM
Ah thanks for clarifying. I didn't know the cpuz validation pics didn't show possible multiplier ranges

Phosphate
12-25-2006, 07:50 PM
A friend sent me a review link over at XTreview for those looking for benchmarks and performance score: http://xtreview.com/review161.htm

They got 2.93 Ghz with stock HSF and stock Voltage....not bad.

The only thing that bothers me is the reduced amount of "caps" on the back of the e4300--->http://xtreview.com/images/photo.jpg ...We shall see how good this one Oc's

death metal
12-26-2006, 05:32 AM
Ah thanks for clarifying. I didn't know the cpuz validation pics didn't show possible multiplier ranges

No prob. I'll try to post a CPU-Z Windows screenie

erwinz
12-26-2006, 05:47 AM
thanks for sharing DM.. :)

:woot: only days to go till these baby hit the market.. :)

JDizzle
12-26-2006, 06:44 AM
I've been seeing most places saying January 14th is the release date for these. I can't wait to get my hands on one.

death metal
12-27-2006, 03:22 PM
I have seen in an earlier post about some time in January (for availability), the site points to a German site. I don't understand German so I can't be certain ;)

engenheiro_ce
01-04-2007, 09:56 AM
this processor is realy the best buy... and next processor (a new version of E6400) with 4MB L2 will be better!!

FischOderAal
01-04-2007, 02:12 PM
I wonder why so many shops here in Germany list it as in stock, or available on 5th January. but the launch is on 21. January :confused:

furthermore, the price is to high... it's nearly the same as the E6300 :(

Rudyn
01-04-2007, 02:32 PM
Ohh man.. I really want this cpu for my budget system. Please hurry up Intel and release the damn small beast already :D

775911
01-04-2007, 07:49 PM
furthermore, the price is to high... it's nearly the same as the E6300 :(

Thats what I thought! So I brought a second hand 6400 for a decent price because I figured it wasnt worth waiting just to pay a similar price for a new one of these. I'll still be interested how you lot go with it

FischOderAal
01-05-2007, 02:17 AM
I think the price is high because the demand is higher than the availability. when the first "run" is over I guess the prices will drop to about 130€/$, which will be a great deal.

Silvermirage
01-05-2007, 09:38 AM
holy Schize!

Amazing proc for the price. Probably going to be nice for HTPC's and OCing.

Just curious. Could you try undervolting? What is the lowest you can get at stock speeds?

Phosphate
01-07-2007, 11:49 PM
So when is this CPU going to be available? Is it any time before January 21st?

ziddey
01-08-2007, 05:21 PM
Man I'm stuck between a rock and a hard spot. Just exploded my e6400. Can't decide whether to buy another e6400 or to wait out for the e4300. I don't feel comfortable enough with e6300 because of dubious motherboard and uncertainty in high fsb required. Kind of disappointed too since I got a steal on a e6400 retail for $190 off ebay nib.

death metal
01-09-2007, 03:10 AM
Guys, a new review is posted at XbitLabs

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2duo-e4300.html

Silvermirage
01-09-2007, 06:45 AM
Guys, a new review is posted at XbitLabs

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2duo-e4300.html


Wow. Smoking review. The sample Xbit had wasn't as good, but no doubt this will be the easiest way to get into the 100% OC club. Just a little water cooling should do the trick!

death metal
01-10-2007, 03:28 PM
Wow. Smoking review. The sample Xbit had wasn't as good, but no doubt this will be the easiest way to get into the 100% OC club. Just a little water cooling should do the trick!

Well, there's earlier review as well about this, I think they really OC that high as well. If rumors are true, this is launching very soon ;)

oijkue
01-10-2007, 08:41 PM
stock intel cooler,room temp=18c,
bios vcore=1.5875v,MAX 412MHz boot

cpuz verified
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=150913

falqon
01-11-2007, 05:16 AM
what kind of clocks are obtainable with less than max vcore?

alexio
01-11-2007, 05:30 AM
This is a nice deal for anyone looking for a cheap E6400: http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Core-2-Duo-E6400-CPU-New-Retail-Box-3yr-Warrnty_W0QQitemZ180073586306QQihZ008QQcategoryZ36 74QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item180073586306

GoodOldCom
01-11-2007, 07:39 AM
With P5B Deluxe and HR01.:D :D :D

http://www.pc-cm.com/modules/Forums/files/e4300oc100_267.jpg

oijkue
01-11-2007, 09:49 AM
what kind of clocks are obtainable with less than max vcore?
Im using 1.26v 333*9 3.0G for BOINC 24/7 :)

falqon
01-11-2007, 11:06 AM
Thanks, looks like this thing isn't quite as much as I hoped for. Although more than a 100% overclock on a $180 chip, I may have been just a bit greedy :) Was really hoping to get 400x9 without large voltage increase.

death metal
01-12-2007, 10:40 PM
Anandtech has an article up in their site, they have a good chip there as well...

kotoko
02-05-2007, 07:51 PM
Hello I am trying to build a new computer soon, and want to overclock E4300 stable 24hr/7day/365days. I will also buy Gigabyte DS3. What would be a good OC? I looked at many E4300 pictures and past posts and I like 3.15ghz with 1.34V CPU. I would like to aim for around there too. Maybe 3.2ghz >< Would I also have to increase other voltage to get the 3.15-3.2ghz? (Northbridge (MCH) voltage, FSB voltage) I don't want the fastest overclock, just a stable one :)

Another question I have is about RAM. If we did 3.15ghz, then FSB would be 350mhz. Then I can either do 2x in BIOS for DDR2-700, or 2.5x in BIOS for DDR2-875? I would like to find DDR2-800 RAM that can do 875 with 3-3-3-9 or timings, but would that be possible^^;; I also do not really want to increase the DIMM voltage.

Thanks in advance!