Intel Xeon 3060 First result! 56K soon to be DEATH!

[fhpchris]

Mobo: Abit IC7...err...AW9D-MAX
RAM: Corsair 8000UL
CPU: Xeon 3060 Retail box L629 A780
Cooling: Water
VGA: MSI X1950XTX

Pictures of setup tomorrow, its 4:00AM and no light now :|

http://www.sspmustang.com/ot/x3060/3823-8000ul-orthos-run1.jpg
More results to come, 3823 isnt max orthos ;)

Quick ram testing ;)
http://www.sspmustang.com/ot/x3060/3600-8000ul-dual1m-run1.jpg

Go to the end of PAGE 4 for my second Xeon results!

[damnnit]

Nice results, it seems no different than other A stepping conroe chips it seems.

[bofors]

Has it been determined yet if the Xeon branded Conroes are "binned" higher than regular Conroes?

[LuckyNV]

Has it been determined yet if the Xeon branded Conroes are "binned" higher than regular Conroes?

they are binned for lower voltages compared to the equivalent Conroe

[DarkSephiroth]

Why so this is the retail chip?

[Quentin]

Nice chip :D

[fhpchris]

3860 Prime @ 1.65v
http://www.sspmustang.com/ot/x3060/3860-8000ul-orthos-run1.jpg

I might be able to get a 39xx prime @ 1.74v:wth: , but I will need to keep the ambients in check ;)
This CPU is better than both my other two Retail E6600s, and my E6700ES, so it seems it is clearly binned better...
~3400 on a Big Typhoon @ stock voltage.

I am hitting a very hard FSB wall on the AW9D-MAX unmodded, with some vMCH droop and vFSB mods, I might see ~450-470ish in 32m or other easier tasks...

[DarkSephiroth]

Wow nice score

[fhpchris]

http://www.sspmustang.com/ot/x3060/xeon1.jpg

http://www.sspmustang.com/ot/x3060/xeon2.jpg

[afireinside]

Nice orthos :slobber: One of the best I've seen!

[Benjie]

I hate you....no really... :P

Nice chip you got yourself there!

Loving the 1.35V max note on the box though lol

[Phosphate]

Nice results. I wonder if the B step Xenon's will be better than B step Conroes?

[fhpchris]

I hate you....no really... :P

Nice chip you got yourself there!

Loving the 1.35V max note on the box though lol

The Xeons are great, this chip does not really love lower voltage as much as my 6700ES, but it LOVES higher voltage! ;)

1.35v MAX:nono:

AFI tells me to keep this one! I really wana get a 10 multi though :(

Lets hope my second AW9D-MAX works better than the first did...

[Speederlander]

The 6300's have shown able to achieve very nice OCs, would an equivalent 3040 Xeon perhaps be even better than the 6300's? (On average)

[fhpchris]

The 6300's have shown able to achieve very nice OCs, would an equivalent 3040 Xeon perhaps be even better than the 6300's? (On average)

possible, but I would think you would want the 8x multi of the 6400 (xeon 3050)

[Speederlander]

possible, but I would think you would want the 8x multi of the 6400 (xeon 3050)
You were running the p5wdg2 pro and switched, yes? Any particular complaints on the Pro mobo? I see a 400 FSB wall on mine that is pretty much impossible to move past. Plus there is the Asus shutdown-on-restart thing...

[fhpchris]

You were running the p5wdg2 pro and switched, yes? Any particular complaints on the Pro mobo? I see a 400 FSB wall on mine that is pretty much impossible to move past. Plus there is the Asus shutdown-on-restart thing...

I didnt have any restart problems with the 0004 bios, but I did have problems trying to run higher vcore on some of the newer bioses.
I did use the P5WDG2-WS-PRO, but I didnt like some of the monitoring features, the horrible onboard sound (not that I used it much with my old Audigy 2), but I didnt like some of the bios problems.
I ran the stock cooling on the nb with ceramique and easily did ~411ish FSB on my other E6600s.

I LOVE the AW9D-MAX, even if it has problems when you approach 440fsb with a 9 multi :) I didnt really test 4:5 or 2:3 yet, but 4 dimms had a very hard time just running 400fsb even @ 1:1.

[damnnit]

fhpchris, that is indeed a niceass chip. If only I chose a xeon instead of my e6600, i may have achieved better clocks. Mine seems to be orthos stable up until 3670 or so. Bad luck i guess.

[fhpchris]

fhpchris, that is indeed a niceass chip. If only I chose a xeon instead of my e6600, i may have achieved better clocks. Mine seems to be orthos stable up until 3670 or so. Bad luck i guess.

My first E6600 was even worse than that, I would not feel bad.

[cryptocat]

Im thinking of getting a Xeon 3060, because my prescott2m doesnt run stable on an asus 925XE @ FSB 1066 although its been pretested @ FSB 1150 but whatever, thats another story.

Could you please compare the CPU's ID to the Conroes?
I also wanna run it on a 975/965-Board and i dont know whether all Boards support this CPU.
I mean, practially its just a Conroe binned for lower voltage, but i need to make sure the boards support it.

PS: Is the Boxed-Cooler for the Xeons any better than the usual crap?

And what about the Xeons warranty - do you void it by not running it on a server-board?

I cant overclock anyways, already got 2GB of DDRII-533 (They were about 60€ so i got the 533 ones, but i dont wanna spend money on expensive DDRII-800, so ill stick with them and wont overclock the Xeon.

Thanks for the info!

[fhpchris]

Im thinking of getting a Xeon 3060, because my prescott2m doesnt run stable on an asus 925XE @ FSB 1066 although its been pretested @ FSB 1150 but whatever, thats another story.

Could you please compare the CPU's ID to the Conroes?
I also wanna run it on a 975/965-Board and i dont know whether all Boards support this CPU.
I mean, practially its just a Conroe binned for lower voltage, but i need to make sure the boards support it.

PS: Is the Boxed-Cooler for the Xeons any better than the usual crap?

And what about the Xeons warranty - do you void it by not running it on a server-board?

I cant overclock anyways, already got 2GB of DDRII-533 (They were about 60€ so i got the 533 ones, but i dont wanna spend money on expensive DDRII-800, so ill stick with them and wont overclock the Xeon.

Thanks for the info!

Everything but the "specification" field is the same as a retail E6600

All boards should support this cpu

Box cooler is same as usual crap.

Xeons have 1 year warranty from newegg, better than the cpu only warranty a normal E6600 gets from newegg.
Has same 3 year intel warranty as E6600.

[dinos22]

nice CPU there :toast:

btw you've got the most annoying sig i've seen in a long time.....

[slykid]

nice chip but what are the temps like?

[cryptocat]

Everything but the "specification" field is the same as a retail E6600



So its NOT binned for lower voltage? Im kinda confused right now.

But thanks for the info, all i gotta do now is finding a retailer that has them in stock, havent yet found any here in germany.
But i guess ill just have to wait a few weeks because they have just released them, havent they? (I think theyve announced them at IDF Fall '06, right?)

And how much did u pay for it?
Maybe importing is an option - they list at 310€, which is around 400$. But i guess its gonna be even more expensive with taxes and postage.

[Sumanji]

fhpchris just sent you a PM because I thought you were based in the UK, but it seems you're a US guy... I can't find S775 Xeons anywhere in the UK :(

[cryptocat]

No, he didnt send me anything.

And im in Germany, i thought i mentioned that.

But neither can i buy them here...
A few stores list them but none of those has the 3060 in stock. Guess were just gonna have to wait like a month or so.

[fhpchris]

nice chip but what are the temps like?
60c load orthos, 100% acceptable.


So its NOT binned for lower voltage? Im kinda confused right now.

But thanks for the info, all i gotta do now is finding a retailer that has them in stock, havent yet found any here in germany.
But i guess ill just have to wait a few weeks because they have just released them, havent they? (I think theyve announced them at IDF Fall '06, right?)

And how much did u pay for it?
Maybe importing is an option - they list at 310€, which is around 400$. But i guess its gonna be even more expensive with taxes and postage.

They are clearly better, I paid 327$ shipped, but now newegg wants 345$

[fhpchris]

Ok, more playing...

1.7v load on water. I have a stupid FFing problem so far...

http://www.sspmustang.com/ot/x3060/3900-tgpwn-orthos-winblows.jpg

[theteamaqua]

lol that blaster worm!

do u think this is better than E6600??

[dinos22]

Ok, more playing...

1.7v load on water. I have a stupid FFing problem so far...


why do you blame Microsoft for your unstable system

nice to see you attempt 3.9GHz orthos :)

damn i want a chip like that heheheh

[fhpchris]

why do you blame Microsoft for your unstable system

nice to see you attempt 3.9GHz orthos :)

damn i want a chip like that heheheh

Yes, its WAY better than my E6600s, and my E6700es.
Look @ FS forum ;)
I cant wait for everyone to see im priming 1.7v :slapass:
Clean install of windows too.

Validation @ 4005 mhz ;)
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=138865

[fhpchris]

http://www.sspmustang.com/OT/x3060/4032-tgpwn-1m-run2.JPG

http://www.sspmustang.com/OT/x3060/3900-tgpwn-orthos-run1.JPG

[Sumanji]

ROFL! Install SP2 dude :p:

[fhpchris]

ROFL! Install SP2 dude :p:

Uh, AFIK I am up to date....

I am using XP Pro X64, I didn't think I had to install sp2...

[Senater_Cache]

hmm I think I may get this instead of 6600

great news

[Sumanji]

lol ok sorry, how did you manage to get MS Blaster then?!

And man, that is one sweet chip!

[ewitte]

Did you say 3.4Ghz on stock volts? That would be awsome as I needed 1.485 on my E6700 to get that stable. I did get over 4.08Ghz @ 1.675v for some tests but I was also running -20C antifreeze through the loop. I've been really thinking about selling the E6700 before its value drops. The newer E6600s and this chip seem to do better.

[ewitte]

I'm trying a newer E6600. I found a few remarks about the 3060 on the 680i chipset and also gaming. Plus it was $30 less with a free game.

[Senater_Cache]

I'm trying a newer E6600. I found a few remarks about the 3060 on the 680i chipset and also gaming. Plus it was $30 less with a free game.

please elaborate on what you read regarding Xeon3060 and 680i...

I have both (proc on the way still) and would hate myself if it was incompatible.

[ewitte]

please elaborate on what you read regarding Xeon3060 and 680i...

I have both (proc on the way still) and would hate myself if it was incompatible.

I don't know the specifics. It basically said the Xeon 3060 was only compatible with 965/975. I found that mentioned in several places.

[fhpchris]

Tested vcore with a DMM

1.66 uguru = 1.59 real
1.70 uguru = 1.63 real

Board maxes @ ~1.65 real on vcore
Vfsb was 1.19v @ load.

[MrDeeds]

I know you said you want a 10x multi but are you going with another Xeon or just getting a 6700.

[fhpchris]

I know you said you want a 10x multi but are you going with another Xeon or just getting a 6700.


Either Xeon3070/X6800/QX6700.

Have not decided yet. 3860 prime @ 1.59v will be hard to beat with almost anything.

[WesM63]

Nice clocking!! I might be getting one of these here soon to play with.

[NightRaven]

wow... mines on the way... hmm i think regarding the compatibility nothing a bios update would not fix.. well whoever gets the stuff first do post somewhere let us know abt it :D

[Senater_Cache]

night raven...there is a dude in here saying teh xeon is incompatible with the 680i !!
It giving me nightmares , lol, because mine is already on the way also.

let me know if it works.

[IluvIntel]

Damm! they don't have any of these Xeon 3060 or 3070 here in Australia, but plenty of Intel boards for them....weird !

[RLM]

Damm! they don't have any of these Xeon 3060 or 3070 here in Australia, but plenty of Intel boards for them....weird !

Well I picked mine up here in Thailand. Surprised that you don't have any in Australia. Coming soon I'm sure.

[theteamaqua]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000J4MOQK/ref=dp_olp_2/002-6211111-1191213

notice the "New" ones under "Feature Merchants"

onlky $200-ish ...

wtf??1!

[fhpchris]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000J4MOQK/ref=dp_olp_2/002-6211111-1191213

notice the "New" ones under "Feature Merchants"

onlky $200-ish ...

wtf??1!


In for three ;)

[theteamaqua]

In for three ;)

what?? what do u mean??

[lapdog]

I had to order one.

[NightRaven]

night raven...there is a dude in here saying teh xeon is incompatible with the 680i !!
It giving me nightmares , lol, because mine is already on the way also.

let me know if it works.

haha sure i would! thanks man~ but yea Intel apparently has low stocks of this in the market.. seems like the choose the best of the best just for this chip.. the product of this is really really low..

It's taking a long time to get to Singapore really..

but yep hopefully by the end of the month.. i'll see if it works :D then will post and update in a new thread as well :)

[NightRaven]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000J4MOQK/ref=dp_olp_2/002-6211111-1191213

notice the "New" ones under "Feature Merchants"

onlky $200-ish ...

wtf??1!

WTF!? i am in deep :banana::banana::banana::banana:...haha~

[theteamaqua]

WTF!? i am in deep :banana::banana::banana::banana:...haha~

so r those fake?? or jsut deal of the week? or month

[bofors]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000J4MOQK/ref=dp_olp_2/002-6211111-1191213

notice the "New" ones under "Feature Merchants"

onlky $200-ish ...

wtf??1!

This is probably a mistake (perhaps a typo?).

They (he) have the Xeon 3040 listed for $360: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000J4HBZE/102-9381199-7452105?ie=UTF8&seller=AW46YDC1MY5VS&sn=www%5FITholic%5Fcom

However, "Caiman" has a new 3060 listed on Amazon for $235.07 as well.

[bench261]

lol i was about to bite...but it could be an error on amazon's part. if u go to itholic.com, they dont even have the 3060..but that could mean nothing as well

[theteamaqua]

oh man the one form itholic.com is gone!:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000J4MOQK/ref=dp_olp_2/002-6211111-1191213


caiman is still up

[bench261]

oh man the one form itholic.com is gone!:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000J4MOQK/ref=dp_olp_2/002-6211111-1191213


caiman is still up

seems weird tht "new" and used cost the same

[fhpchris]

canceled :(

[dinos22]

oh man the one form itholic.com is gone!:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000J4MOQK/ref=dp_olp_2/002-6211111-1191213


caiman is still up
someone buy one for god's sake.....:eek:

[lapdog]

My order was canceled and my money refunded.:mad:
They didn't even say wy. I'm sure the price was a mistake.
I knew it was too good to be real, but I had to try.

[lapdog]

I just received another email that said it when out of stock.

[dinos22]

yeah that happened in australia once with zipcomputers or whatever their name is listing the new 2GB G.Skil GBGA sticks for AUD$250 a kit :eek: ....i ordered :banana::banana::banana::banana:loads of kits:D only to get the same bull:banana::banana::banana::banana:....supplier ran out of stock bla bla ahahahah.....i told the guy i'll wait as long as it takes :) only to get an email the next day that order was deleted....dodgy

[Senater_Cache]

ZZF has them 10 bucks below the Egg's price (339) FS

[cliffy]

I found 3060's in the UK for £223 from insight although they only order them on request

[fhpchris]

Grats to FCG on his new cpu :toast:

[Senater_Cache]

fhp chris...how come you sold your xeon already?

[fhpchris]

fhp chris...how come you sold your xeon already?

I go through CPUs quickly, and the AW9D works a ton better @ 400 fsb (or so) than it does @ 440+.

I hope to see 3950-4000 prime stable and 1m or so @ 4100-4200.

I will try an X6800 or Xeon 3070 next.

[RLM]

haha sure i would! thanks man~ but yea Intel apparently has low stocks of this in the market.. seems like the choose the best of the best just for this chip.. the product of this is really really low..

It's taking a long time to get to Singapore really..

but yep hopefully by the end of the month.. i'll see if it works then will post and update in a new thread as well
Yesterday 11:14 AM

Have just got back from Singapore today. Was reading the Straits down there, and there's a story about a $20 million microchip heist in Malaysia. Apparently a gang of them went in at night, and chloroformed the guards, removed some 530 cartons and a load of motherboards.

Don't know if this has any bearing on availability.

Here's a link to the story by the way.
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/nst/Tuesday/Frontpage/20061121075318/Article/index_html

RLM

[NO1B4ME]

Have just got back from Singapore today. Was reading the Straits down there, and there's a story about a $20 million microchip heist in Malaysia. Apparently a gang of them went in at night, and chloroformed the guards, removed some 530 cartons and a load of motherboards.

Don't know if this has any bearing on availability.

Here's a link to the story by the way.
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/nst/Tuesday/Frontpage/20061121075318/Article/index_html

RLM


Wow that is nuts. That is alot of cpu's.

[Poodle]

Wow that is nuts. That is alot of cpu's.

The link doesn't work any more....


I wonder how they gonna sell that many without beeing caught. Must be a big maffia stunt.

[GPSeek]

Just want to share a good place to order it.

CPU: Intel Xeon 3060 2.4GHz 4M L2
$327.20 free shipping:toast:

http://www.pyrinex.com/dualcore-intel-xeon-3060-processor-p-228.html

Mine is still on the way from there due to the holiday:p:

[fhpchris]

Just want to share a good place to order it.

CPU: Intel Xeon 3060 2.4GHz 4M L2
$327.20 free shipping:toast:

http://www.pyrinex.com/dualcore-intel-xeon-3060-processor-p-228.html

Mine is still on the way from there due to the holiday:p:

Yes, Newegg was down to 325$ ;)

[bofors]

Yes, Newegg was down to 325$ ;)

I ordered three.

[RLM]

Pretty happy with mine so far. Haven't really pushed it yet (need to sort out cooling), but seems to be running fine at 3.6 (401 x 9) cpu 1.38v (in bios) 1.65 mch. Nice little setting that mch. At 1.58 it crashed right away, at 1.65 happy as larry.

Haven't orthos'd it yet, but have been doing lots of 3d rendering , with radiosity, 2 threads, and it's working a treat:)

RPG

[GPSeek]

Just received my Xeon 3060. The batch number is L628B:woot:
Still waiting for other stuff to be arrived:slapass: .
What is your batch numbers? Are all C2D Xeons of B batch?:p:

[Speederlander]

Just received my Xeon 3060. The batch number is L628B:woot:

From newegg?

[bofors]

Just received my Xeon 3060.

Great, I am looking forward to your overclocking results with the BadAxe2.

[GPSeek]

From newegg?

No. The Egg was bad at price at the time I ordered it. :(
Here it is:
http://www.pyrinex.com/dualcore-inte...sor-p-228.html
I got it for $327.20 free shipping. :fact:

[trashmouse]

Uuh nice - eta on your other stuff??

[bofors]

From newegg?

I have three from NewEgg in route. I missed UPS today, but I will have them in hand tomorrow.

EDIT: I got L629A780 (all three are the same), this is same as what fhpChris (the original poster) recieved. They came from NewEgg's Illinois warehouse.

I will be testing on BaxAxe1's, but perhaps not until this weekend.

[Senater_Cache]

mine is L629A780 as well but it came frm ZZF

[RacerX]

I should have a 3060 arriving in a day or two. Since I'm on the eastcoast it should come out of Neweggs NJ warehouse which incase should arrive by tomorrow.

Recently received from there NJ location a E6600 week 31A that was benchable at 4ghz at 1.6v, Orthos stable at 3.75 1.52v. Would like to see 3.8 at same voltage or less 24/7 under water.

[fhpchris]

I did 3860 orthos @ 1.59v measured with a DMM, I think 3.75 would be easy to beat!
x6800 way, and if it cant beat the xeon im going to be major unhappy ;)

Xeon 3060 #2 will be arriving today also, should be same week/batch as my last one...
Can I do 3.9 orthos on a Xeon again? We will know in less than 12 hours ;)
Badaxe 2 arrived today also, do you guys want some tests on it?

[Knight]

Yes please. :)

I wish you good results.

[Senater_Cache]

this is goiung to be good...looking forward to some badax2 shots and the xeon results

[Yay for Cheese]

This might have been answered already but I'm too lazy to check.
How does the xeon 3060 compare with the e6600 in terms of oc?

[bofors]

This might have been answered already but I'm too lazy to check.
How does the xeon 3060 compare with the e6600 in terms of oc?

Well, since fhpChris seems to be the only one here who has posted 3060 results this is still somewhat of an open question, but he seems to be to convinced they are much better chips than the E6600. Exactly how much better, I do not know.

The other issue is of course the batch variability of the E6600 which apparently is pretty wide (there seem to be some bad E6600s out there). The way I am looking it right now is that paying a little more for a 3060 guarantees you a top bin E6600.

[fhpchris]

I had to struggle to even get 3707 stable on my last L628A E6600, so 3903 orthos is rather good ;)

Someone @ OCX just posed a 4ghz orthos with a L630A E6600 ;)

http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showpost.php?p=28826&postcount=19

intresting that we both load @ 66c in core temp isnt it ;)

[Yay for Cheese]

so basically a hit or miss

[Senater_Cache]

what isnt with intel?

[fhpchris]

L628B167 xeon 3060 from newegg arrived just now, time to play ;)

[bofors]

What is the significance of "B" versus "A" here?

[fhpchris]

Clearly something!

L629A Xeon 3060 max voltage in bios was higher ~1.63v load

L628B Xeon 3060 max voltage in bios is now ~1.58v load (only shows up to 1.625v now :( selectable in bios...)

Temp reads ~80-85c in core temp at this setting priming (I didnt really clear cmos, I probably should...)

Oh did I mention its priming 3903 now ?:banana: 5 minutes of playing ^_^

[RLM]

So what's safe(there's a stupid word) for these xeons. Mine seems to get very hot with just minimal voltage increase. Had put it down to crap cooling, and maybe a crappy mount with the galaxy 1, but looking at your readings...

RPG

[erwinz]

Clearly something!

L629A Xeon 3060 max voltage in bios was higher ~1.63v load

L628B Xeon 3060 max voltage in bios is now ~1.58v load (only shows up to 1.625v now :( selectable in bios...)

Temp reads ~80-85c in core temp at this setting priming (I didnt really clear cmos, I probably should...)

Oh did I mention its priming 3903 now ?:banana: 5 minutes of playing ^_^


nice.. :)

go go go :rocker:

screenies please.. :D

[fhpchris]

By popular Demand ;)

WHAAH 30 minutes isnt long enough!

http://www.sspmustang.com/ot/x3060/3900b-tgpwn-orthos-run3.jpg

[Ron 61]

fhp, why is core temp 82c? Thats too damn hot for me. Im thinking about getting a zeon but not if they all run that hot.

[fhpchris]

fhp, why is core temp 82c? Thats too damn hot for me. Im thinking about getting a zeon but not if they all run that hot.

because onboard sensors do not tell the truth ;)

The radiator isnt even warm! LOL!

This was a common problem for me even on P5WDG2 WS PRO, different cpu shows different temps even with same settings. I am talking like 20+C different here!

[Ron 61]

Thats good, you had me worried considering the water cooling in your sig. Has anybody tried a xeon on 680i sli board? Thats the route I need to go with my 7900gt's.

[fhpchris]

L623 E6600 - cant even dual 32m 3700 mhz
L628A E6600 - 3707 orthos @ 1.65v
L623 E6700 B2 S6 ES = dual 32m @ 3800, wont even orthos 3.7 :(
L629A Xeon 3060 = 3903 orthos with some work
L628B Xeon 3060 = 3903 orthos within 3 minutes of work...

so 100% of my E6600s cant do even 3710, yet 100% of my Xeons run 3900+.

I think its safe to say the Xeons overclock better ;)

[Ron 61]

Which egg warehouse did the B come from?

[NightRaven]

hey guys.. i'm running the xeon 3060 with an eVGA 680i now.. its er notddoing too good imo :D prime stable at 3.5ghz and 1.55Vcore. running scythe infinity

heres the link~

sorrie ddidnt post earlier guys~
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=110175

oh and mine's L629A780 too~

[Phosphate]

L623 E6600 - cant even dual 32m 3700 mhz
L628A E6600 - 3707 orthos @ 1.65v
L623 E6700 B2 S6 ES = dual 32m @ 3800, wont even orthos 3.7 :(
L629A Xeon 3060 = 3903 orthos with some work
L628B Xeon 3060 = 3903 orthos within 3 minutes of work...

so 100% of my E6600s cant do even 3710, yet 100% of my Xeons run 3900+.

I think its safe to say the Xeons overclock better ;)

It would be interesting to see how the Xenon's compare to the "B" step Conroes. I definitely think these CPUs are better though considering they cost only like $10 more than the regular chips.

[MrDeeds]

@NightRaven
It seems to me that your cooling is the issue with your setup. Your having issues at 1.5v and above which is really more like 1.43 to 1.46 with vdroop on 680i.

Even though you have a decent cooler your not the first that's having temp issues with the scythe infinity.

Your cpu is still scaling well at low voltages so I think that cpu would be doing better if you had water cooling or better.

Also what week is your cpu?

[Ron 61]

@NightRaven Thanks for info. Maybe check for good contact @ IHS. Good luck.

[NightRaven]

thanks guys... mne cpu is the same aas fhp.. l62A780... yea prob temps.. testing sstill.. really need some work.. another ting i noticed was vmch.. i onlyy have till 1.7V.. could be tt as well~

[bofors]

I have some initial results with an L629A780 (Xeon 3060) on a Rev. 305 BadAxe1. I have the vMCH turned all the way up, 1.725V and Enchance Power Slope (EPS) is on.

To get +30% or above on the 1066 strap (FSB 346, 3.11 GHz), I had to turn up the vCore to about 1.5V (it works turned all the way down, 1.275V, for lower speeds). I had no problem maxing the 1066 strap (+50%, FSB 400, 3.6 GHz) either, but it is not clear if the system is 100% stable at vCore 1.5V yet. I could POST on the 1333 strap +25% (416 FSB , 3.75 GHz) at vCore 1.6V, but my hacked version of OS X had some problems booting (Windows might have been fine). I am working with 4 x 512 MB of Corsair 5400UL v1.5 at 2.2V (max. for BadAxe1), but I could not use the 1333 strap at all with four sticks in (this is consistent with my results from 4 x 1 GB of Corsair ValueSelect).

So, I am getting the idea that the BadAxe1 is holding this chip back (as fhpChris seems to have had to no problem getting better results with his 3060's). I might try using ClockGen to set the FSB higher than 400 on the 1066, but am really starting to think more about getting some BadAxe2's. My BadAxe1 overclocks my E6300 pretty well, so I had thought it would be good enough to do better here (and maybe it is with ClockGen). But I have two more BadAxe1's in route which I have gotten at half price and now I am thinking about selling those or sending them back.

Likewise, the BadAxe1 is hardly the right board for running 5400UL's with its 2.2 vDIMM limit.

EDIT: I turned up the vFSB all the way to 1.385V (which may have had no effect) and the vCore to 1.55V, now the systems appears to be 100% stable at 3.6 GHz. I should also mention that I am using an Ultra V-Series 500 W PSU which is not be the best for overclocking (but it might not be a limiting factor here either).

EDIT2: Since a vCore of 1.55 V was stable, I turned it down with the smallest steps it to find the minimum needed for 100% stability. The minimum appears to be 1.5375 V.

[NightRaven]

@bofors.. what cooling did u use?

[Harshal]

Nice!!! Good Info guys... Congrats too all those getting 39XX without much sweat :)

[bofors]

@bofors.. what cooling did u use?

Ha, I was just about to fix that omission.

I am running a lapped Big Typoon mounted with Artic Silver 5, cooled with a 120 x 38 mm ~100 CFM Sunon:

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9251/pict0006gx7.jpg

I have two 50mm Delta's, ~10 CFM each, on the stock Northbridge which I lapped and mounted with Arctic Silver 5:

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3056/pict0001bn5.jpg

I am using a CoolerMaster Centurion 5 case with some extra fans up front:

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5646/pict0003ho7.jpg

[erwinz]

I like the setup of the memory fan.. :D hehehe :rocker:

[bofors]

I like the setup of the memory fan...
Me too, actually. For about $7 in fans (Delta no less), you can build a decent memory fan with a little epoxy and two rubber bands. It comes off and goes on with little hassle too. Compare that to the Corsair "AirFlow" memory fan for $22.50 at Performanc-PCs:

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/ind...oducts_id=20910

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/images/products/C13-8020_01.jpg

But those 50 mm Deltas spin at 5500 RPM and are a little loud (~ 30 dBA). Furthermore, they are actually a little small, so I ordered some quiet (~ 20 dBA) 60 mm Vantec-branded fans, which are quite a bit more expensive, instead.

[fhpchris]

hey guys.. i'm running the xeon 3060 with an eVGA 680i now.. its er notddoing too good imo :D prime stable at 3.5ghz and 1.55Vcore. running scythe infinity

heres the link~

sorrie ddidnt post earlier guys~
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=110175

oh and mine's L629A780 too~

When you run a different multi on 680 your reported ram speed is wrong, I bet that is your problem....

Why do people even bother to run this 7/8 multi crap on a 9 multi chip? When you figure out the board I am sure your results will improve.


I have some initial results with an L629A780 (Xeon 3060) on a Rev. 305 BadAxe1. I have the vMCH turned all the way up, 1.725V and Enchance Power Slope (EPS) is on.

To get +30% or above on the 1066 strap (FSB 346, 3.11 GHz), I had to turn up the vCore to about 1.5V (it works turned all the way down, 1.275V, for lower speeds). I had no problem maxing the 1066 strap (+50%, FSB 400, 3.6 GHz) either, but it is not clear if the system is 100% stable at vCore 1.5V yet. I could POST on the 1333 strap +25% (416 FSB , 3.75 GHz) at vCore 1.6V, but my hacked version of OS X had some problems booting (Windows might have been fine). I am working with 4 x 512 MB of Corsair 5400UL v1.5 at 2.2V (max. for BadAxe1), but I could not use the 1333 strap at all with four sticks in (this is consistent with my results from 4 x 1 GB of Corsair ValueSelect).

So, I am getting the idea that the BadAxe1 is holding this chip back (as fhpChris seems to have had to no problem getting better results with his 3060's). I might try using ClockGen to set the FSB higher than 400 on the 1066, but am really starting to think more about getting some BadAxe2's. My BadAxe1 overclocks my E6300 pretty well, so I had thought it would be good enough to do better here (and maybe it is with ClockGen). But I have two more BadAxe1's in route which I have gotten at half price and now I am thinking about selling those or sending them back.

Likewise, the BadAxe1 is hardly the right board for running 5400UL's with its 2.2 vDIMM limit.

EDIT: I turned up the vFSB all the way to 1.385V (which may have had no effect) and the vCore to 1.55V, now the systems appears to be 100% stable at 3.6 GHz. I should also mention that I am using an Ultra V-Series 500 W PSU which is not be the best for overclocking (but it might not be a limiting factor here either).

I had similar problems trying to run 4*512, as 975x just didnt want to run 4 dimms much over 390-400fsb. As soon as I took out 2 dimms I could do 430+

[bofors]

I had similar problems trying to run 4*512, as 975x just didnt want to run 4 dimms much over 390-400fsb. As soon as I took out 2 dimms I could do 430+

Well, I think that is it for the Corsari 5400UL v1.5 then, they are going back to NewEgg. If they were 1 GB sticks (or perhaps v1.2), I might keep them, but this RAM is not really doing me much good here. It seems clear that I want some BadAxe2's instead, so I think I am going to send back the two BadAxe1's I have in route too.

RMA's all around: :banana:


I will still need to pick up another 2 x 1GB RAM set though, I guess I will go with the Crucial Ballistix deal at NewEgg: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=124249

[NightRaven]

When you run a different multi on 680 your reported ram speed is wrong, I bet that is your problem....

Why do people even bother to run this 7/8 multi crap on a 9 multi chip? When you figure out the board I am sure your results will improve.



I had similar problems trying to run 4*512, as 975x just didnt want to run 4 dimms much over 390-400fsb. As soon as I took out 2 dimms I could do 430+

hey bro.. nopez thats not the prob.. the prob is heat.. its not stable after a few hours at 3.5ghz and 1.55v... i'm down to 3.45ghz... didnt run lower multi at all just once to find max fsb of the board~

[fhpchris]

hey bro.. nopez thats not the prob.. the prob is heat.. its not stable after a few hours at 3.5ghz and 1.55v... i'm down to 3.45ghz... didnt run lower multi at all just once to find max fsb of the board~

I would not trust the onboard sensors, but with a 120mmx38mm sanyo denki and a big Typhoon I saw ~66c load just running dual32m @ 1.65v, so to really prime 1.6 you will need cool ambients or water. I think that even with a silent fan you should be able prime 1.55v easily, so I do not know the problem...

Do you have a good mount? Is your heatsink even getting warm? DO NOT TRUST THE ONBOARD SENSORS!

[NightRaven]

haha okay do not trust onboard sensors! haha using coretemp also.. hsf is gettin warm :) just a little..

i think probably i need a hsf with a smaller base.. will try and test it out when my hsf comes..hopefully.. it'll do better.. thanks for the tip man :)

[RLM]

Just to throw a contribution into the hat.

Stable for 2 hours, but v.hot if the readings are to be believed. Sort of confused by this. Maybe the B28's have a heat problem?

The messed up thing is I then went to do a 3d render with an app called fprime straight after the ortho test. my system hung straight away. Maybe the software has corrupted, as it now hangs even at lower settings. Or have I buggered the chip? Will have to look into that somehow.????

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2281/orthoxeon01sn8.jpg

RLM

[bofors]

The messed up thing is I then went to do a 3d render with an app called fprime straight after the ortho test. my system hung straight away. Maybe the software has corrupted, as it now hangs even at lower settings. Or have I buggered the chip? Will have to look into that somehow.????

Your vCore still might be a little low.

[marillion]

This xeon is performant cpu and very good for overclocking ;)

I have one question, with asus p5b deluxe and memory with chips micron D9 (Cell Shock PC8000 4-4-4-12 for example?)my configuration has good for extreme overcloking ?

@+

[NightRaven]

i would say this cpu flies on water.. but its normal on air.. the combo u stated should be quite well.. :)

[marillion]

ok thanks I'm using aircooling,watercooling and phase change later.

I'm using a similar aircooling (zerotherm BTF90),is king of aircooling for CPU;)

[fhpchris]

Just to throw a contribution into the hat.

Stable for 2 hours, but v.hot if the readings are to be believed. Sort of confused by this. Maybe the B28's have a heat problem?

The messed up thing is I then went to do a 3d render with an app called fprime straight after the ortho test. my system hung straight away. Maybe the software has corrupted, as it now hangs even at lower settings. Or have I buggered the chip? Will have to look into that somehow.????

[IMG]http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2281/orthoxeon01sn8.jpg[/I MG]

RLM

I would not trust core temp or the onboard sensors! My guess is that the problem stems from the use of voltages other than stock; so when we run 1.58v (even something like 1.39v) we are running different voltages through the temperature sensors and they are no longer calibrated or accurate.

The voltage wont damage the cpu, but it does seem to change the way the temperature sensor reads things. Different cpus probably have different resistance in the sensors and running different voltages makes them inaccurate.

My 50W iwaki gets VERY warm, almost burning hot if I leave it on for a week or so (it is made to do survive this, dont worry)
Clearly a 150-200W cpu will make a heatsink hot or burning to the touch if it is actually running @ 83C, and when cold air is comming out of my radiator, I really say that all the sensors are just wrong.

Changing cpus should not let the temperature change 20+ degrees C, but I will say that I think the L628Bs do run hotter and that is why they clock better. It is the same thing with the CCBBE,CCB2E, and CCB1E Opteron 165s, the ones that run hotter at the same settings are the faster ones ;)

4ghz prime on silent water cooling @ 1.4-1.5v just is not going to happen except in a few cases with the top 0.001% of CPUs, so I think that is a bad thing to aim for, aiming for 3.8 with a xeon 3060 on water @ 1.58-1.63v should be easily attainable ;)

[NightRaven]

ok thanks I'm using aircooling,watercooling and phase change later.

I'm using a similar aircooling (zerotherm BTF90),is king of aircooling for CPU;)

haha i will be testing the btf in awhile.. when i get it...

@thanks for the tips chris! least we all have some reference point :)

[bofors]

I have one question, with asus p5b deluxe ...

I think the critical issues here are motherboard first, then cooling. The PB5 Dlx. is good, but I think there are better choices for "extreme" overclocking. While I am not aiming for the extreme, I think I may come close to 3.8 GHz with good air cooling and a BadAxe2 (I just ordered two of these motherboards, I will have them next week).

[marillion]

Me either I do not aim too the extreme;), best it is a badaxe2 or a p5b dlx or a abit AW9D-MAX?? it is for a stable overclocking @ 3.5Ghz on aircooling and more on watercooling.
If not for the BTF, I haven't got this cooling because it's difficult to find in France :'(

[bofors]

Intel motherboards are supposed to be best in terms of stability and the initial reports of the BadAxe2 make it sound like one of the best potential boards for overclocking a Xeon 3060: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=124131

[marillion]

it's nice motherboard ;) it's first Intel motherboard to dedicate of overclocking and she has very lot of vmods :)

[RacerX]

First boot with my new 3060 batch L628B167......underload was 1.39v. Seems I finally received a good cpu from Newegg after all these years. Will test more this weekend. FYI, came from Neweggs Jamestown, PA warehouse. Sorry coretemp shows 413x9 as I used clockgen to increase fsb for testing. 3.8 failed have way thru duo SuperPI.

http://home.comcast.net/~phippy1/Xeon3060.JPG

[RacerX]

Quick semi SS......dam finally going to have break down and replace my 1x120 heatercore.;)

http://home.comcast.net/~phippy1/Xeon4ghz.JPG

[Ron 61]

Very good, nothing like getting a good clocking cpu delivered and it looks like you got one. I hope I can get lucky when I order. What are your temps under load?

[shimmishim]

great results!

i placed an order and supposedly they've sent me a L628B :)

i will know on Monday. :)

[Ron 61]

great results!

i placed an order and supposedly they've sent me a L628B :)

i will know on Monday. :)
Where did you order from? Did you get to pick what you wanted?

[RacerX]

Very good, nothing like getting a good clocking cpu delivered and it looks like you got one. I hope I can get lucky when I order. What are your temps under load?

Room temp 24-25c cooling in sig with only 1x120 fan on heatercore.

http://home.comcast.net/~phippy1/Xeon_temps.JPG

[shimmishim]

Where did you order from? Did you get to pick what you wanted?

yes!

i'll post the vendor on monday after i get the chip just so no one gets their hopes up on getting one and ends up that they either don't have anymore or won't let others pick.

edit:

but if you have to know... same place as GPSeek! :) www.pyrinex.com

[Ron 61]

I would definately get bigger rad, it might let you go further since it looks like you have a good cpu to work with.

[Phosphate]

great results!

i placed an order and supposedly they've sent me a L628B :)

i will know on Monday. :)

It will be very interesting to see how a "B" step 3050 Xenon stacks up with a "B" step E6400.

I'd definitely buy one of these by default if it wasn't for the fact that Fry's will likely have some crazy sale on regular e6400s.

[RLM]

Hardly conclusive at 5 minutes, but seems stable, Fprime rendering working and render times are consistent. At full load coretemp 78c.

Edit: Memory running 4-4-4-15 trfc 45

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5242/orthoxeon02fz5.jpg

RLM

[NightRaven]

my my is everyone with a xeon on water here!? haha except me that is..... i'm still trying to get it orthos stable at 3.46ghz...

thou it can pi at 3.75 and 3dmark at 3.6ghz..

[GPSeek]

Just set it up and played a little bit. Here is the initial results for my Xeon 3060 L628B211 on Bad Axe 2 with newest bios.

It can do 9*390 = 3.51GHz at default voltage. Memory set to 533MHz (I think this is 1:1, am I right?) 4-4-4-10 2.16V.It passed 3.5 hour memtest86 tests.

It cannot boot at 9*400 with default voltage (1.325v):slapass:

Not bad:) . But I don't know it's the CPU or the memory that needs to be pushed.:p: Any idea?

Installing WinXP x64 Pro now....

[shimmishim]

Just set it up and played a little bit. Here is the initial results for my Xeon 3060 L628B211 on Bad Axe 2 with newest bios.

It can do 9*390 = 3.51GHz at default voltage. Memory set to 533MHz (I think this is 1:1, am I right?) 4-4-4-10 2.16V.It passed 3.5 hour memtest86 tests.

It cannot boot at 9*400 with default voltage (1.325v):slapass:

Not bad:) . But I don't know it's the CPU or the memory that needs to be pushed.:p:

not too shabby.. should be able to do 9x400 hopefully with 1.35 or 1.375 volts?

i've got the same chip coming on monday as well.

[Yay for Cheese]

Is it worth it to spend the extra few bucks for the xeon 3060?

[GPSeek]

Is it worth it to spend the extra few bucks for the xeon 3060?
I think so. It is still a matter of luck. However, it seems if you go with Xeon 3060 you have a better chance than with a E6600 from the data we gathered so far.:fact:

[NightRaven]

imo its doing okay.. same as e6600.. or maybe a little better.. i'm doing 3.46orthos stable for 4 hours so far. 1.55V thou.. infinity and an acryan fan :D

will post some screenies if i can when i get home~

[MrDeeds]

I wonder if one of you guys with a 3060 can do a comparison with a 6600. Oc to 3.6ghz, something that should be attainable for both cpus and run benchmarks to see if they really are identical cpus.

The reason I ask is because some are under the premise that you'll get lower 3d scores with a xeon but they are better for number crunching and folding.

I really don't think there are any differences though but it would be nice to know before I make the purchase.

[fhpchris]

The reason I ask is because some are under the premise that you'll get lower 3d scores with a xeon but they are better for number crunching and folding.

I really don't think there are any differences though but it would be nice to know before I make the purchase.

Yes, they are the same, no we dont need benchies to prove that ;)

[bofors]

Yes, they are the same, no we dont need benchies to prove that ;)

Ditto, we even know that Woodcrest and Merom have the same core design. There is no "server" core or whatever with this generation of x86 Intel chips.

[bofors]

i'm doing 3.46orthos stable for 4 hours so far. 1.55V thou..

It looks like the minimum voltage for 100% stability at 3.6 GHz is about 1.525V on my system. It is very stable at 1.5125V but I ran both cores under full load over night and it frooze at some point.

EDIT: It just frooze at 1.525V, now testing 1.5375V.

[NightRaven]

haha or probably cuz we all are not running servers that we cant tell.. basically on desktop these do the same.. but put them in a server.. maybe thats where the differences come out?

[NightRaven]

It looks like the minimum voltage for 100% stability at 3.6 GHz is about 1.525V on my system. It is very stable at 1.5125V but I ran both cores under full load over night and it frooze at some point.

hmm yea... i could do 3.55ghz 1.5V but then came to orthos full load.. failed after 3 hours.. and so far.. 1.55v and 3.46ghz has been rock solid for 5 hours.. my ambients here in Singapore are 30 degrees celcius.

i need to do more testing really.. the 680i is flaky at best.. requires lots of time and patience.. could be due to my other voltages that 3.55 or 3.6 dun run well.

[bofors]

... but put them in a server.. maybe thats where the differences come out?

There is no difference. Again, Intel only designs one x86 core now. It is the same across the entire line, from laptops to servers. This is part of their new strategy.

[bofors]

Are you guys with 3060's running with EIST ("SpeedStep") on or turning it off?

Mine has been on and I was thinking it might want to leave it on for a 24 / 7 application.

[RLM]

Are you guys with 3060's running with EIST ("SpeedStep") on or turning it off?

I've tried both on and off, not sure if there is a difference yet. I have however disabled throttling and that does seem to make a difference stability wise.

Been meaning to also re-install windows 64 bit as well. Would be interested to see how that fares.

RLM

[bofors]

... I have however disabled throttling and that does seem to make a difference stability wise.

I am not sure what you mean by "throttling" here, is that something you disabled in BIOS like EIST/SpeedSpeed (or is this some setting in Windows)?

[shimmishim]

I am not sure what you mean by "throttling" here, is that something you disabled in BIOS like EIST/SpeedSpeed (or is this some setting in Windows)?

that is a bios thing. pretty much if your chip gets above a certain temperature then the chip will throttle in order to cool down (prevent chip from overheating and getting damaged).

in the aw9d max, there are two ways this happens...

1. i can't remember :)
2. it'll lower the your mult to 6x and voltage to 0.8-ish volts if i remember correctly.

[bofors]

that is a bios thing. pretty much if your chip gets above a certain temperature then the chip will throttle in order to cool down (prevent chip from overheating and getting damaged).
...
it'll lower the your mult to 6x and voltage to 0.8-ish volts if i remember correctly.

That sounds exactly the same as EIST/SpeedStep:

Enhanced Intel SpeedStep technology allows the system to dynamically adjust processor voltage and core frequency...

http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/products/box_processors/desktop/proc_dsk_p4/technical_reference/203838.htm

[shimmishim]

yeah. well i blieve the new beta bios from abit removed EIST or it automatically disables it as default..

gosh i wish i were in front of my computer, then i could tell ya what it is exactly... :)

[GPSeek]

Just a quick update:
4*900 = 3.6GHz at 1.40v Orthos stable for 4+ hours:toast:
core temp 0.94 reads the core temperature around 63~67C at lowest speed of TT120.:)

[shimmishim]

Just a quick update:
4*900 = 3.6GHz at 1.40v Orthos stable for 4+ hours:toast:
core temp 0.94 reads the core temperature around 63~67C at lowest speed of TT120.:)

thanks for the results.

i was hoping yours would do 3.6 @ 1.35ish ... i guess i can expect similar results.

[shimmishim]

one more thing...

any issues with the flatness of the IHS? i remember how the earlier ones had such issues with the middle of the IHS being concave

[bobov]

Just a quick update:
4*900 = 3.6GHz at 1.40v Orthos stable for 4+ hours:toast:
core temp 0.94 reads the core temperature around 63~67C at lowest speed of TT120.:)

Congrats. 1.40v in bios or in windows? Packing date please.

[bofors]

Packing date please.

He has an L628B211

[bobov]

He has an L628B211

Seems better than L629A780 at low voltage.

[bofors]

Are CPU vCore's supposed to be 100% motherboard independent?

(Considering that the motherboard is supplying the voltage, I would think not.)

[GPSeek]

one more thing...

any issues with the flatness of the IHS? i remember how the earlier ones had such issues with the middle of the IHS being concave
Ha, you're a serious overclocker:D
I did not inspect the surface with any instrumentations but naked eyes:rolleyes:

The only thing I found out was that the surface had some oil remains on it. So I cleaned it with some lens cleaning liquid.
The heatsink finish of Tuniq 120 is not very good either. I did not lap it.

[GPSeek]

Congrats. 1.40v in bios or in windows? Packing date please.
in bios for sure. :fact:

[bofors]

My Xeon 3060 boxes (L629A780) have an extra sticker with a barcode that covers up the "EAN", "UPC" and "PACK DATE" information.

[shimmishim]

Ha, you're a serious overclocker:D
I did not inspect the surface with any instrumentations but naked eyes:rolleyes:

The only thing I found out was that the surface had some oil remains on it. So I cleaned it with some lens cleaning liquid.
The heatsink finish of Tuniq 120 is not very good either. I did not lap it.

the way i test it is to put some thermal grease and spread a thin layer on the whole cpu... then i'll push it against the bottom of a heatsink or wateblock... then i'll pull it off to see where it has touched or not...

a flat IHS will leave a nice smear mark wherever it has touched the heatsink and will look undisturbed where it hasn't touched.

you can also look at the bottom of the heatsink to see where it has or hasn't as well...

[RLM]

In the abit bios you have an EIST setting and a separate throttling setting, so they are not the same as far as I know:)

RPG

[GPSeek]

My Xeon 3060 boxes (L629A780) have an extra sticker with a barcode that covers up the "EAN", "UPC" and "PACK DATE" information.
That might be just a barcode sticker of your reseller. I don't see any reasons Intel want to cover up its own UPC.:)

[shimmishim]

That might be just a barcode sticker of your reseller. I don't see any reasons Intel want to cover up its own UPC.:)

yeah.. did you get it from newegg? i know newegg has their own bar code thing they put on all retail packages

[fhpchris]

So I went to go play with my Badaxe2, roomate insisted on using his POS Ultra 500w that he got free after rebate, and I thought, "hey this is conore + x800 vanilla, its gotta work!?" It booted, and I went in bios and changed the voltages to what I normally would use....

And the psu died, taking the mobo with it :(

Needless to say he now owns a Silverstone ST56ZF Zeus!

[shimmishim]

So I went to go play with my Badaxe2, roomate insisted on using his POS Ultra 500w that he got free after rebate, and I thought, "hey this is conore + x800 vanilla, its gotta work!?" It booted, and I went in bios and changed the voltages to what I normally would use....

And the psu died, taking the mobo with it :(

Needless to say he now owns a Silverstone ST56ZF Zeus!

ouch! so your badaxe2 is dead? :(

[bofors]

yeah.. did you get it from newegg? i know newegg has their own bar code thing they put on all retail packages

Ya, that must be it.

[bofors]

So I went to go play with my Badaxe2, roomate insisted on using his POS Ultra 500w that he got free after rebate, and I thought, "hey this is conore + x800 vanilla, its gotta work!?" It booted, and I went in bios and changed the voltages to what I normally would use....

And the psu died, taking the mobo with it :(

:mad: Dammit!

:eek: I am running that same PSU and I have three more sitting here in boxes.

I researched the crap out of that PSU, found almost no reports of failure and absolutely nobody claimed that it killed their system: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=30232

I have been running my E6300 with no problem for a few weeks on it (but at the minimal voltage of 1.275 V). Statistically spearking, I think I am still pretty safe but my confidence in this PSU is defiinitely gone.

fhpChris, I am sorry that of all the people this could have happened to that you were the victim (someone who did not even buy one no less) and that it killed a brand new BadAxe2 as well. But can you tell us if you were running any high power graphics cards or anything else that might have triggered this event?

~bofors

[GPSeek]

So I went to go play with my Badaxe2, roomate insisted on using his POS Ultra 500w that he got free after rebate, and I thought, "hey this is conore + x800 vanilla, its gotta work!?" It booted, and I went in bios and changed the voltages to what I normally would use....

And the psu died, taking the mobo with it :(

Needless to say he now owns a Silverstone ST56ZF Zeus!
I'm sorry to hear this:mad:
I had hoped you got better results than I do with the same setup as mine.
It's your original post leading me to xeon 3060. Thank you for the good work.

[fhpchris]

ouch! so your badaxe2 is dead? :(

Yes, I only once got into the bios, it was looking like a cool board, and with a dual core it let me set fsb to ~482 or higher, 482 was the highest I tried to enter....




:mad: Dammit!

:eek: I am running that same PSU and I have three more sitting here in boxes.

I researched the crap out of that PSU, found almost no reports of failure and absolutely nobody claimed that it killed their system: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=30232

I have been running my E6300 with no problem for a few weeks on it (but at the minimal voltage of 1.275 V). Statistically spearking, I think I am still pretty safe but my confidence in this PSU is defiinitely gone.

fhpChris, I am sorry that of all the people this could have happened to that you were the victim (someone who did not even buy one no less) and that it killed a brand new BadAxe2 as well. But can you tell us if you were running any high power graphics cards or anything else that might have triggered this event?

~bofors You could not pay me to use that PSU. I hooked my 8800gtx + 10th crucial ballistix + xeon 3060 up to the badaxe 2 to test them and my FSU 700w shrieked in terror! I hope it is still alive :|

xeon 3060/ 10th Crucial/ X800 are runnning on my AW9D right now :)

High power Graphics cards? I was using AN ATI X800 VANILLA! (Thank you NickS!), it just does not get more "low power" than that card, it does not even have extra power connectors on it!

With "ONLY" conroe + BX2 I exploded that PSU! DO NOT USE THAT POS! Throw the ones you have on ebay, or just throw them in the trash!

[bofors]

High power Graphics cards? I was using AN ATI X800 VANILLA! (Thank you NickS!), it just does not get more "low power" than that card, it does not even have extra power connectors on it!

With "ONLY" conroe + BX2 I exploded that PSU! DO NOT USE THAT POS! Throw the ones you have on ebay, or just throw them in the trash!

Thanks for details.

But before I dump my PSU's, I have one more question.

Was this Ultra new when it killed your BadAxe2 or had it been used before?

EDIT: I just sent an email message to Ultra about this issue, I want to see what they have to say about the safety of these PSU's, the cause of failure and what sort of protection they offer against a defective product that destroys hardware. It seems to me that they are liable for damages caused by their PSU's loaded within spec.

[GPSeek]

Stress test update:toast:

[NightRaven]

hey GPseek.. what vcore are u using bro?

[bobov]

not too shabby.. should be able to do 9x400 hopefully with 1.35 or 1.375 volts?

i've got the same chip coming on monday as well.


Ordered a L628B 3060 (comfirmed by them) from pyrinex today, will get it on Tuesday. :)

[bobov]

hey GPseek.. what vcore are u using bro?


1.40v in bios?

[GPSeek]

1.40v in bios?
yes

[fhpchris]

Thanks for details.

But before I dump my PSU's, I have one more question.

Was this Ultra new when it killed your BadAxe2 or had it been used before?

EDIT: I just sent an email message to Ultra about this issue, I want to see what they have to say about the safety of these PSU's, the cause of failure and what sort of protection they offer against a defective product that destroys hardware. It seems to me that they are liable for damages caused by their PSU's loaded within spec.

New

[BlaqMale]

anybody got a dfi infinity laying around to test the xeon in?

[Phosphate]

Ordered a L628B 3060 (comfirmed by them) from pyrinex today, will get it on Tuesday. :)

They have a good price on this CPU. So has anyone confirmed that Xenon week 28 B step CPUs are made of tougher silicon than week 28 "B" step 6600s?

[GPSeek]

They have a good price on this CPU. So has anyone confirmed that Xenon week 28 B step CPUs are made of tougher silicon than week 28 "B" step 6600s?
I think nobody really knows except a very few intel guys working in the fab:stick:

[bofors]

New

Thanks again, I am going to putting the screws down on Ultra over this. If I get them to cough up some money, I will let you know.

I thought the killer Ultra PSU might have been new, I think I need to find a way to test or burn-in my other Ultra PSUs before exposing good hardware to them. I have an old motherboard that might work for that.

I am going to build a second Xeon 3060 (L629A780 ) box today with another BadAxe1 rev. 305. I did pick up a BFG Tech 650 W PSU last night for this new build, which looked like the best thing I could find at CompUSA that had an EPS 12V (8 pin) connector on it. I have been wondering if my cheap (and now potentially dangerous) Ultra was limiting my overclock anyways.

[fhpchris]

Thanks again, I am going to putting the screws down on Ultra over this. If I get they to cough up some money, I will let you know.

I thought the killer Ultra PSU might have been new, I think I need to find a way to test or burn-in my other Ultra PSUs before exposing good hardware to them. I have an old motherboard that might work for that.

I am going to build a second Xeon 3060 (L629A780 ) box today with another BadAxe1 rev. 305. I did pick up a BFG Tech 650 W PSU last night for this new build, which looked like the best thing I could find at CompUSA that had an EPS 12V (8 pin) connector on it. I have been wondering if my cheap (and now potentially dangerous) Ultra was limiting my overclock anyways.

Yea, the BFG PSU should at least be reliable enough not to make you too nervous to use it LOL ;)

I know we all want to use affordable and cheap parts for crunching rigs, but skimping on a PSU is just a bad idea :(

[bofors]

I got almost identical results from building a second 3060 (L629A780 ) box today with another BadAxe1 rev. 305.

It seems to be 100% stable at 3.6 GHz (on either 1066 or 1333 strap), but requires a vCore of about 1.55V. The only differences seem to be this system can be stabilized by raising the vFSB and BIOS reports that runs some 10 degrees cooler than the first one.

Both of these systems will overclock at little above 3.6 GHz, but are not very stable and will not reach 3.7 GHz. I have tried overclocking above 400 FSB on the 1066 strap with ClockGen with the same results.

The BFG Tech 650W PSU seems to be a little more stable than the Ultra V-Series 500W, but the 12V rail is little under 12V (the Ultra is always about 12.125V).

[bofors]

Dear Ultra,

I have purchased four Ultra V-Series 500W and have used one for a few
weeks with excellent results. However, I was shocked to read a forum
post today describing how an Ultra V-Series 500W died and destroyed a
brand new Intel "Bad Axe 2" motherboard in the process.

I would to know how and why an Ultra V-Series 500W can destroy a
motherboard and what kind of protection Ultra offers on such a
defective product. I would also like to know how many times an Ultra
V-Series 500W has died and destroyed components in the process.

Thank you,
[bofors]


Dear Customer

Thanks for you recent email.

That unfortunate situation is a isolated problem,
V series is one our best PS that we have in the market.

Thanks


Thank you for contacting us.
If you have any further inquiries please reply to this email.

Sincerely,
Miguel
Ultra Products Tech. Support

So, the Ultra V-Series are sone of their best PSU's? Hmm...

[RacerX]

Seems with alittle break in this cpu is starting to shine....

http://home.comcast.net/~phippy1/4.1ghz.JPG

[bofors]

4.1 GHz. That's nice, I wonder how much of that is do to your water cooling.

[RacerX]

4.1 GHz. That's nice, I wonder how much of that is do to your water cooling.

I would like to think its doing some good but to be honest my heatercore cannot handle the temps these B chips are pushing out. Soon will have another rad and would like to see 3-5c in temp drop, if that happens 4.2SS might be happening.

[fhpchris]

Great results everyone ;)

[PowerToTheUsers]

anybody got a dfi infinity laying around to test the xeon in?
I'm interested in the answer too. I think it's compatible with every conroe-board (or atleast 965 and 975-based), so I guess it will be compatible, but a real answer would be nice.

Are there any dual-xeon motherboards to put two xeon 30x0s in a dual setup? Or is that only possible with the 5000-series (and its FB-dimm :sick: )

[RLM]

Bofors,

Glad I posted my batch number in another thread, save me digging out boxes or removing water blocks. My xeon is week 28 B, L628B211.

Just thought I'd post it here, instead of PM. Just in case it's of general interest:)

RLM

[bofors]

Glad I posted my batch number in another thread, save me digging out boxes or removing water blocks. My xeon is week 28 B, L628B211.

Just thought I'd post it here, instead of PM. Just in case it's of general interest:)

Thanks, I looked through this thread a couple times but was not sure that I didn't miss it.

I am sure there is general interest in these batch numbers.

[GPSeek]

Bofors,

Glad I posted my batch number in another thread, save me digging out boxes or removing water blocks. My xeon is week 28 B, L628B211.

Just thought I'd post it here, instead of PM. Just in case it's of general interest:)

RLM
We have exactly the same batch number, L628B211.:toast:

[bofors]

Great results everyone ;)

I actually do not think my results, 3.6 GHz on two BadAxe1's, are all that great. They are decent, acceptable but frankly less than what I was expecting. I had 3.3 GHz with an E6300 and I was thinking that I would get close to 3.9 GHz here.

While I may have been stuck with a weaker batch of 3060's (L629A780), I am not going to be convinced that is the problem here until I run them on a better board. I have two BadAxe2's on order should get them by in about a week. Furthermore, you had gotten the results I was expecting with the same batch.

[ErikaeanLogic]

wow, this is a great post! many thanks for all your work fhpchris! :)

I've got a L628B 3060 on the way, along with an A9W-Max. I have a couple of questions:

1) I have a Big Typhoon, is 3.6 @ <1.45Vcore a reasonable expecation (24/7 Orthos-stable gaming rig)?

2) Which memory in the ~$300USD range would you guys pull the trigger on? The Ballistix deal at Newegg is tempting but I get whacked with CA sales tax ($350-ish) and I'd rather do tighter timings in the 400-430fsb range than buy memory that goes 500-550fsb (I wouldn't need that 1:1 on a 975 board, right?). Your thoughts?

3) I'll be running SATA and PATA drives. Does it make sense to plug in a PATA drive with an older version of uGuru to lock the PCIE to 100MHz before updating to the newer uGuru?

4) Assuming that the temp sensors are way off on the A9W, how are you guys reliably measuring temps?

5) What are the safest Vcore and temps on air-cooling with this setup?

Thanks ;)

[shimmishim]

1) I have a Big Typhoon, is 3.6 @ <1.45Vcore a reasonable expecation (24/7 Orthos-stable gaming rig)?

Most definitely!

2) Which memory in the ~$300USD range would you guys pull the trigger on? The Ballistix deal at Newegg is tempting but I get whacked with CA sales tax ($350-ish) and I'd rather do tighter timings in the 400-430fsb range than buy memory that goes 500-550fsb (I wouldn't need that 1:1 on a 975 board, right?). Your thoughts?

team group xtreem ddr-667 which has the d9's from tankguys is a good choice.

3) I'll be running SATA and PATA drives. Does it make sense to plug in a PATA drive with an older version of uGuru to lock the PCIE to 100MHz before updating to the newer uGuru?

that's an interesting thought but don't know if it'll work. i've tried changing the pci-e on a sata drive and it didn't work.. let me know if it works

4) Assuming that the temp sensors are way off on the A9W, how are you guys reliably measuring temps?

Core temp? v. 0.94. But not sure how accurate it is.

5) What are the safest Vcore and temps on air-cooling with this setup?

Thanks ;)

I'd say 1.45-1.5 on air would be fine. As for temps... 60-65C's but that's just my humble opinion

[ErikaeanLogic]

2) Which memory in the ~$300USD range would you guys pull the trigger on? The Ballistix deal at Newegg is tempting but I get whacked with CA sales tax ($350-ish) and I'd rather do tighter timings in the 400-430fsb range than buy memory that goes 500-550fsb (I wouldn't need that 1:1 on a 975 board, right?). Your thoughts?

team group xtreem ddr-667 which has the d9's from tankguys is a good choice.



thanks for the fast response Shimm :)

So is this the memory (http://www.tankguys.biz/ddr2-3338-p-1676.html?osCsid=b79d0848438bbeca5ecda3f3b6ea4e71) you're referring to? Would that be better than the Ballistix which is only $30 more?

[shimmishim]

thanks for the fast response Shimm :)

So is this the memory (http://www.tankguys.biz/ddr2-3338-p-1676.html?osCsid=b79d0848438bbeca5ecda3f3b6ea4e71) you're referring to? Would that be better than the Ballistix which is only $30 more?

you know what. i didn't realize tankguys charge tax in CA!

hmm... need to find a non-CA vendor hehehe...

I think both are equally good deals but the crucials are rated cas 5 @ ddr2-1000

not sure how high the team's overclock but from what i have read, they o'c pretty well.

[ErikaeanLogic]

thanks again, shimm...i went with the ballistix ;)

can't wait for friday, w00t! :D

[ErikaeanLogic]

oops, dual-core double-post ;)

[fhpchris]

1) I have a Big Typhoon, is 3.6 @ <1.45Vcore a reasonable expecation (24/7 Orthos-stable gaming rig)?

Most definitely!

2) Which memory in the ~$300USD range would you guys pull the trigger on? The Ballistix deal at Newegg is tempting but I get whacked with CA sales tax ($350-ish) and I'd rather do tighter timings in the 400-430fsb range than buy memory that goes 500-550fsb (I wouldn't need that 1:1 on a 975 board, right?). Your thoughts?

team group xtreem ddr-667 which has the d9's from tankguys is a good choice.

3) I'll be running SATA and PATA drives. Does it make sense to plug in a PATA drive with an older version of uGuru to lock the PCIE to 100MHz before updating to the newer uGuru?

that's an interesting thought but don't know if it'll work. i've tried changing the pci-e on a sata drive and it didn't work.. let me know if it works

4) Assuming that the temp sensors are way off on the A9W, how are you guys reliably measuring temps?

Core temp? v. 0.94. But not sure how accurate it is.

5) What are the safest Vcore and temps on air-cooling with this setup?

Thanks ;)

I'd say 1.45-1.5 on air would be fine. As for temps... 60-65C's but that's just my humble opinion


I agree ! remember to replace the chipset cooler if you want more than 400 or so FSB :)

[shimmishim]

thanks chris! glad i could make useful recommendations :)

my L628B came in today. i'm gonna give it a go when i get home. also got my super talent's in as well. day o' fun!

[fhpchris]

I dont think the pcie lock really works at all IMO, hipro5 might be able to let us in on a secret ;)

[shimmishim]

@fhpchris

what bios are you using with the aw9d...

i just tried the 13beta04 and my cpu won't boot :(

[RLM]

shimmishim,

I updated to b03. Everything I've read about b04 so far has been negative, so haven't bothered with it. Seems a lot of people are going back to b02 and b03.

RLM

[shimmishim]

shimmishim,

I updated to b03. Everything I've read about b04 so far has been negative, so haven't bothered with it. Seems a lot of people are going back to b02 and b03.

RLM

really? hmm... maybe i should go back to 03

but i finally got my board to boot!

something was up with the chipset block not touching and preventing a boot

anyway... now testing!

[bofors]

I'd say 1.45-1.5 on air would be fine. As for temps... 60-65C's but that's just my humble opinion

I am running mine at 1.5625V, but I think I have good air cooling. How big of a risk am I taking? If I burn one up, Intel is going to replace it under the Xeon warranty right?

I really do not know what the core temperature as it is well known that the sensors are not accurate, but I suspect that it is about 65oC.

Has anybody at XtremeSystems even claimed to have cooked a Conroe yet?

[NightRaven]

hey guys anyway given up and reverted back to p20 bios for the evga 680i... here in singapore my ambient without air conditioning is nearl30 or up to 33 degrees. running an infinity with a higher cfm fan... things seems to be better now n i honestly prefer the p20 bios.. now its stable 3.5ghz 1.5V. orthos can do stress gromac for nearly 10 hours running.. i couldnt do this in p21... or it could have been the ntune software that was giving me problems.. load temps in core temp show up to 70 degrees with these ambients here... might try to tune for 3.6ghz later :) 100mhz off only! :D ps. the test is still running!

here's a little screenie.. wish i had low ambients like u guys! haha~
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9105/maxorthosstablezc4.jpg

[shimmishim]

hmm... testing 9 x 423 @ 1.55 volts...

but one thing i've noticed is that my aw9d-max now boots at 420 with no tweaks! :)

so far this chip isn't really too much better than my E6700ES which does 9x420 @ 1.55 orthos small fft stable

http://www.johnshim.com/forums/xtremesystems/orthossmall9x423.1hour.jpg

[MrDeeds]

hmm... testing 9 x 423 @ 1.55 volts...

but one thing i've noticed is that my aw9d-max now boots at 420 with no tweaks! :)

so far this chip isn't really too much better than my E6700ES which does 9x420 @ 1.55 orthos small fft stable


Im glad to finally see you more than 20min stable over 400fsb.:toast:

Edit- I didnt notice you were just running small ffts. I know your ultimate goal is getting the board running blend over 400fsb.
There just may be something going on with your board.

[shimmishim]

Im glad to finally see you more than 20min stable over 400fsb.:toast:

Edit- I didnt notice you were just running small ffts. I know your ultimate goal is getting the board running blend over 400fsb.
There just may be something going on with your board.

lol. maybe... dunno why i just can't do it!!!

i know for sure now it's not the mem or the cpu since i've swapped both of them out.... dunno what else to try...

oh well if i can't do blend, then i can't do blend.... i can do dual superpi32m and run 3dmark all day... i guess that's good enough

[Ron 61]

@ shimmishim Thanks for the report, I hope she primes all night for you. What batch number did you get L628B167, L628B211 or something different?

[fhpchris]

Lets just say my X6800 has a really hard time touching EITHER of my xeons in prime, yet the x6800 will run pi/3dmark MUCH higher...

I do not understand this other than saying I need more vfsb :(

Some regular here needs to test a Xeon 3070!

X6800 would not even post @ 434*9 LOL :D It seems to really fsb wall hard and it needs the 11-12 multis to really come alive..

[erwinz]

Lets just say my X6800 has a really hard time touching EITHER of my xeons in prime, yet the x6800 will run pi/3dmark MUCH higher...

I do not understand this other than saying I need more vfsb :(

Some regular here needs to test a Xeon 3070!

X6800 would not even post @ 434*9 LOL :D It seems to really fsb wall hard and it needs the 11-12 multis to really come alive..


woah.. :) I think Xeon 3060 will be a great buy.. :D I'll pair it with DFI RD600.. hehehe hope its dec 15 already..

please fhpchris try Xeon 3060 with DFI RD600 when you get one.. :)

:woot:

[ErikaeanLogic]

I agree ! remember to replace the chipset cooler if you want more than 400 or so FSB :)

how will i change the chipset cooling, isn't it an integrated heatpipe design? do you mean to place a fan at/near it?

[fhpchris]

how will i change the chipset cooling, isn't it an integrated heatpipe design? do you mean to place a fan at/near it?
get swiftech mcx-159cu and take the nb heatpipe off, it easily comes off.

X6800 passes 32m @ 4ghz, and my "roomates" L628B E6600 runs it over.

Really at a multi of 9, the Xeon 3060 L628B in my sig is ~100+mhz faster than my X6800!

I think we will start seeing 410-420*10 benchmarks on Xeon 3070s ;)

[ErikaeanLogic]

get swiftech mcx-159cu and take the nb heatpipe off, it easily comes off.

$32 for a chipset cooler! are you nuts?!:slobber:

yeah, i am too. in for one!:cool:

[shimmishim]

@ shimmishim Thanks for the report, I hope she primes all night for you. What batch number did you get L628B167, L628B211 or something different?

L628B211

9 hours later and...

http://www.johnshim.com/forums/xtremesystems/orthossmall9x423.9hours.jpg

pretty much on par with my e6700es so i guess that means my 6700 gets sold now! :)

[RacerX]

shimmishim, first congrats at 9hrs+ Orthos. 2nd try running blend instead and see if your NB can handle those speeds.

Also whats cooling your cpu? Those temps are actually quite good for a B stepping with that much voltage going thru. My L628B167 can easily do 423x9 but with only 1.43v 12hrs+ Orthos stable but my temps get up in the mid 70's even with watercooling. Strange less voltage but higher temps compared to yours.

[shimmishim]

shimmishim, first congrats at 9hrs+ Orthos. 2nd try running blend instead and see if your NB can handle those speeds.

Also whats cooling your cpu? Those temps are actually quite good for a B stepping with that much voltage going thru. My L628B167 can easily do 423x9 but with only 1.43v 12hrs+ Orthos stable but my temps get up in the mid 70's even with watercooling. Strange less voltage but higher temps compared to yours.

wow!!! 9x423 @ 1.43v... amazing...

i'm on watercooling with a pa120.2 and swiftech storm v2.

i'll give orthos blend a try but i haven't been able to no matter what i try...

[RacerX]

wow!!! 9x423 @ 1.43v... amazing...

i'm on watercooling with a pa120.2 and swiftech storm v2.

i'll give orthos blend a try but i haven't been able to no matter what i try...


Now I see its your rad, need to dump my heatcore right away. Thanks now I'm totally convinced my heatercore is killing me.

Try 1.45v on yours you might be surprised.:toast:

[MrDeeds]

Try 1.45v on yours you might be surprised.:toast:

I was going to suggest that also, the only difference between being small ffts stable and blend stable on the aw9d-max for me was a bump in cpu voltage.

[shimmishim]

i'm already at 1.55 bios. should i try 1.6? cuz 1.45 would be less :)

[RacerX]

i'm already at 1.55 bios. should i try 1.6? cuz 1.45 would be less :)


I see your Abit undervolts compared to my Asus which overvolts. I have 1.4v set in bios and measured on board during idle is 1.45, underload I measure 1.43-1.44v.

I say try 1.5v for cpu and then run blend. I think blend will fail if your don't have enough MCH voltage. Example I can run small ffts at 423fsb with 1.6v mch but blend fails within seconds, 1.7v is what I need to make it stable.

[shimmishim]

19 hours of small fft :)

http://www.johnshim.com/forums/xtremesystems/orthossmall9x423.19hours.jpg

[Supertim0r]

nice cpu :)

what about Large FTTs priority 9 ? ;)

[shimmishim]

nice cpu :)

what about Large FTTs priority 9 ? ;)

hmm.... i can give large fft a try tonight priority 9. :)

[Ron 61]

Real nice shimmishim, I ordered my L628B211 today from the folks in Gahanna but it will be January before I can put some juice to it as I am waiting on DFI 680i. Has anybody lapped the IHS on any of these xeons?

[NightRaven]

anyway guys just to share more air cooled results..

20 hours 3510mhz 1.5V orthos stresscpu gromac core..

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/3076/maxorthosstable20hrgromdu4.jpg

small fft didnt do very well on tt volts needed 1.55V.. so now running it.. 1.5V failed after 2 hours plus. rebooted..

just for those thinking of sticking to air :)

[shimmishim]

Real nice shimmishim, I ordered my L628B211 today from the folks in Gahanna but it will be January before I can put some juice to it as I am waiting on DFI 680i. Has anybody lapped the IHS on any of these xeons?

the IHS is flat... compared to the 6700es i had.

my waterblock touches the whole ihs so no need to lap unless you REALLY want to :)

[shimmishim]

okay... now things get INTERESTING...

so i decided to give dual superpi 32M a try at 423... and guess what? can't run it...

tried all voltage combinations then decided... hey, let's drop vcore from 1.55 to 1.45 and guess what?

superpi32M decides to finish running... try small fft... guess what? ERROR!

so yeah... 423x9 stable with 1.55 vcore orthos small fft and 423x9 with 1.45 vcore dual superpi 32M and neither stable at each other's vcore setting... hehehe...

any ideas? :)

[RacerX]

okay... now things get INTERESTING...

so i decided to give dual superpi 32M a try at 423... and guess what? can't run it...

tried all voltage combinations then decided... hey, let's drop vcore from 1.55 to 1.45 and guess what?

superpi32M decides to finish running... try small fft... guess what? ERROR!

so yeah... 423x9 stable with 1.55 vcore orthos small fft and 423x9 with 1.45 vcore dual superpi 32M and neither stable at each other's vcore setting... hehehe...

any ideas? :)


Sounds like you need more mch voltage to your NB at 423. Like I said run blend at priority 9 and see what you can come up with. Here's the start of a new run don't know if it will make it thru the night as my room temp is 3-4c higher than the last time I made a 12hr run.

http://home.comcast.net/~phippy1/XeonOrthos.JPG

[shimmishim]

my mch was maxed out at 2.0

i upped my vfsb to 1.49 and it works :) woot!

[RacerX]

my mch was maxed out at 2.0

i upped my vfsb to 1.49 and it works :) woot!

Sounds like to me you need a new board, 2.0v mch is much for only 423 in return. What are you cooling your NB with? Maybe lowering it and increasing vfsb will give you better stability.

Have you tried blend yet?

[shimmishim]

i'll lower my vmch to see what happens.

and no, i can't run blend yet... sigh... this board hates blend... i have yet to see people run on blend above 400+ on this board except for hipro and one other person...

this board just hates blend... it's a simple fact :(

[Ender17]

so what are my chances of 3.6GHz with air cooling on D975XBX2?

[Rysing_Phoenix]

so what are my chances of 3.6GHz with air cooling on D975XBX2?

I'd like to know that too, exact same thoughts. :D I have just been scared away from the 680i boards and the Bad Axe 2 seems like it might be the best board right now.

And given the 3.6ish goal on air...what do you guys recommend in terms of memory? Would something like
this (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=85264) work, or some decent PC2-6400 in the low $200 range, since all I need is about 400FSB? I'm not looking for anything extreme, and don't need to squeeze every ounce of performance from the RAM, so no need for 3-3-3-X timing since AFAIK that is really only good for bench numbers. Or should I lay down the cash and get on the NewEgg Crucial Ballistix DDR2 1000 deal?

Thanks for the help!

[RLM]

shimmishim,

Have been interested in your results. I know FTPChris has had joy with the AW9D, but I'm guessing that it's the motherboard or/and the memory holding the cpu back. Certainly RacerX's results give me a bit of hope that, that's the case.

Unfortunately I didn't get to test my P5W DH out properly, due to memory compatibility and being limited to 365 FSB. What I did notice though, is that the cpu temps were about 5c-10c lower on the Asus than the aw9D.

Albeit I did run blend successfully at 405 on the aw9d, when actually using it for 3d rendering, I found anything over 400 to be unstable. Sometimes renders at 405 were taking longer than renders at 395. Bascially inconsistent. and using the renderer Frpime, the system would lock up on occasions. Not quite right.

I think my next changes will include an Asus P5B deluxe, some GSkill HZ's and new water cooling.

RLM

[ErikaeanLogic]

ok, n00b question:

why are you guys focusing on the "blend" Orthos test? what does passing/failing the blend test signify if you can pass many hours of small fft's?

[GrimReaper]

wow :eek: looks like a killer CPU :D anyone tried the temps with TAT?

RacerX
seems its fully stable :D what are the temperatures like ?

Now I am seriously considering to get one of these

[fhpchris]

shimmishim,

Have been interested in your results. I know FTPChris has had joy with the AW9D, but I'm guessing that it's the motherboard or/and the memory holding the cpu back. Certainly RacerX's results give me a bit of hope that, that's the case.

Unfortunately I didn't get to test my P5W DH out properly, due to memory compatibility and being limited to 365 FSB. What I did notice though, is that the cpu temps were about 5c-10c lower on the Asus than the aw9D.

Albeit I did run blend successfully at 405 on the aw9d, when actually using it for 3d rendering, I found anything over 400 to be unstable. Sometimes renders at 405 were taking longer than renders at 395. Bascially inconsistent. and using the renderer Frpime, the system would lock up on occasions. Not quite right.

I think my next changes will include an Asus P5B deluxe, some GSkill HZ's and new water cooling.

RLM


I loved the AW9D until I started getting cpus that needed more than ~435fsb prime stable! What a stupid problem to have!

I hate to get another board, but I need ~480fsb ish stable on a 9 multi and I do not see any 975 boards pulling that off :(

[RacerX]

wow :eek: looks like a killer CPU :D anyone tried the temps with TAT?

RacerX
seems its fully stable :D what are the temperatures like ?

Now I am seriously considering to get one of these

Temps with TAT show 1-2c less than AI Booster underload and maybe soon we can call this completely stable.:clap:

http://home.comcast.net/~phippy1/XeonOrthos2.JPG