View Full Version : Another void warranty..... - lapping action done !!!
camouflage
11-04-2006, 04:26 PM
:p: Though my chip is doing this
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7153/sp1m12172cu6.jpg
I decided to take a closer look to the IHS contact and found this
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9428/lapping001fp7.jpg
Not what I would call a fine contact - so took this CPU
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/5617/lapping002cl0.jpg
and after some serious work it now looks this way
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9944/lapping003yq7.jpg
Thanks DAVE - nice lapping kit. Good luck to Your business !!!;)
Too late here now, will post some results later. :toast:
Noob-ftw
11-04-2006, 04:32 PM
Nice shiny surface you have there. I'd never have the guts to do that to my CPU.
Are those the temps before or after the lap?
show us some results! yeah!
ryaan
11-04-2006, 04:48 PM
what hs/f has u at 16c ...wow nice
NWEng
11-04-2006, 07:29 PM
I'd never have the guts to do that to my CPU.
It's not a big a deal as you think, lapping is more safe than it is dangerous. Yeah, it voids the warrenty; but, you have to weigh that against the benefits, especially if the IHS is "out of flat" anyway. The IHS is thicker than you're probably thinking, and you're not really removing that much material from it.
DesertShooter
11-05-2006, 03:50 AM
8c system temp :nono:
camouflage
11-05-2006, 05:06 AM
8c system temp :nono:
:slap: If I was in Your shoes I wouldn't bet $1000 that this is a fake....;)
But I'm sorry to confuse You all with the temps, but it's real - see here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1818096#post1818096
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menlatin
11-05-2006, 06:35 AM
come on man give us some results! I can't believe contact was that bad and you still got over 4hz!!
camouflage
11-05-2006, 12:50 PM
:D Just tried in my room at 21°C airtemp:
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/2879/prime38ef0.jpg
Without lapping I was not able to get 3.8 dual prime stable..........;)
More to come when it gets frosty here again..............:p:
:toast:
DarkSephiroth
11-05-2006, 01:31 PM
WTF, my lapped E6600 with WC hit 60C load with 3.6Ghz and 1.4vcore. How gay :mad:
camouflage
11-05-2006, 03:40 PM
WTF, my lapped E6600 with WC hit 60C load with 3.6Ghz and 1.4vcore. How gay :mad:
:( I'm sorry to hear this - indeed a bit too much........
Supertim0r
11-05-2006, 04:12 PM
will it run large FTTs priority 9 ?
camouflage
11-05-2006, 04:17 PM
will it run large FTTs priority 9 ?
:rolleyes: Hm, never really tried. Large FTTs also stress RAM so I always chose small FTTs for maximum CPU stress........;)
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Khaotic
11-06-2006, 07:49 AM
WTF, my lapped E6600 with WC hit 60C load with 3.6Ghz and 1.4vcore. How gay :mad:
I have to hit my 6600 with 1.55v to get 3.3Ghz out of it. but, on water cooling it runs in the mid 40s 24/7 stable.
i dropped approx 5C off load temps after lapping it's now holding at 60C at 3.6GHz with 1.43V - aircooled with a TuniqTower120 :)
camouflage
11-06-2006, 10:51 AM
i dropped approx 5C off load temps after lapping it's now holding at 60C at 3.6GHz with 1.43V - aircooled with a TuniqTower120 :)
:clap: 3.6GHz with 1.43V on air is nice...... :toast:
thanks camouflage, i'd love to try benching in sub-zero ambients tho :) :banana:
is that the liquid metal alloy TIM? did it help temps much over say AS5?
Ad1tya
11-06-2006, 11:15 AM
Lol..
My Un-lapped, un-touched E6600, does 3924 Mhz, @ 1.62 Real vCore, Under water, with 64C Load temps.. Ambient around 22C...
Not 24/7 ofcourse..
24/7 is 1.46 Real vCore, @ 3590 mhz.. 47C Load @ 28-30 Ambient..:D.. (Mumbai is hot) -.-..
Peter949
11-06-2006, 11:20 AM
Thats a nice job/finish on that cpu. Was debating the other day to lap my cpu but don't want to void the warranty.
Lol..
My Un-lapped, un-touched E6600, does 3924 Mhz, @ 1.62 Real vCore, Under water, with 64C Load temps.. Ambient around 22C...
Not 24/7 ofcourse..
24/7 is 1.46 Real vCore, @ 3590 mhz.. 47C Load @ 28-30 Ambient..:D.. (Mumbai is hot) -.-..
:eek: wow nice temps are they measured with coretemp while running TAT or orthos small ffts?
my IHS was quite concave, and had bad contact, i just *had* to lap it :p:
pH(x)
11-06-2006, 12:46 PM
Wow :slobber: www.easypckits.com is a great site! :D
camouflage
11-06-2006, 03:23 PM
thanks camouflage, i'd love to try benching in sub-zero ambients tho :) :banana:
is that the liquid metal alloy TIM? did it help temps much over say AS5?
:D See here - temps under load:
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8413/clyl4.png
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mat128
11-06-2006, 11:10 PM
Thats a nice job/finish on that cpu. Was debating the other day to lap my cpu but don't want to void the warranty.
From my experience, cpu manf. wont RMA your broken chip if its due to overvoltage, and CPUs never break themselves, so they could just have like no warranty at all and it'd still be good. :cool:
camouflage
11-07-2006, 02:49 PM
Thats a nice job/finish on that cpu. Was debating the other day to lap my cpu but don't want to void the warranty.
:confused: Are You OCing Your chip? Yes? Ha - warranty already broken even without lapping.....:stick:
:toast:
Luis_GT
11-07-2006, 05:12 PM
Lol..
My Un-lapped, un-touched E6600, does 3924 Mhz, @ 1.62 Real vCore, Under water, with 64C Load temps.. Ambient around 22C...
Not 24/7 ofcourse..
24/7 is 1.46 Real vCore, @ 3590 mhz.. 47C Load @ 28-30 Ambient..:D.. (Mumbai is hot) -.-..
Damn nice temps. My untouched 6600 is only running 3.1 with 1.31v set on bios and my load temps is at 55C running Orthos Small FFTs'... Guess the Big water SE is not enough for this... I should really turn on my ghetto chiller:stick:
DarkSephiroth
11-07-2006, 08:35 PM
You guys think the BIP II is the cause of my high temp?
dab420
11-08-2006, 08:32 PM
I up and did my first conroe.. could only get 1000 grade sand paper.
http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/1059/lappedge9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Hows she look? :D
dqniel
11-08-2006, 09:00 PM
I love the look of a freshly lapped IHS. I remember my 3-4c load temp drop when I lapped my 3000+ :)
camouflage
11-09-2006, 06:24 AM
I up and did my first conroe.. could only get 1000 grade sand paper.
Hows she look? :D
:D Nice & clean work.........;)
GrimReaper
11-09-2006, 12:06 PM
I up and did my first conroe.. could only get 1000 grade sand paper.
Hows she look? :D
Nice work there :eek: how did you manage to get the glossy finish with only a 1000 grade? used TIM? :confused: can post a close up pic of the cpu :D
Quentin
11-09-2006, 12:18 PM
very nice lapping :)
dab420
11-09-2006, 01:57 PM
Thanks guys :D
The main reason it looks good is I took my time. I used a decent sized mirror and masking tape to secure the sandpaper. A bit of water helped it along.
I tried to only lapp it in an up and down motion, rotating 90* or 180* every 20 strokes or so. Each grade of sand paper (600, 800, 1000) took about 10 - 15 minutes I'd guess.
Once I was done I cleaned with rubbing alcohol and then rubbed it for a little with a microfibre cloth. The 1000 grade did most of the shining, as I could see my reflection before I had even cleaned.
In this image you can see a little bit of scratching, but I am pleased with the result:
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2937/closeap2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
you can also see some gunk on the mobo :p: Pretty smokey in my den...
:D See here - temps under load:
:toast:
thanks again camouflage,
i purchased some coollabs pro and also saw a 3C drop over AS5 :)
i checked load temps (30 mins orthos small ffts priority 9) @ 3.6GHz 1.4375V using coretemp, just before and after applying
with AS5 i was loading at 59-60C
now with the liquid metal it's at 56C and not moving :clap: - good stuff :)
camouflage
11-09-2006, 03:49 PM
thanks again camouflage,
i purchased some coollabs pro and also saw a 3C drop over AS5 :)
i checked load temps (30 mins orthos small ffts priority 9) @ 3.6GHz 1.4375V using coretemp, just before and after applying
with AS5 i was loading at 59-60C
now with the liquid metal it's at 56C and not moving :clap: - good stuff :)
:D Yes, I agree but hard to remove. In the end You have to lap again, IHS & waterblock..............:(
:toast: